Evestar200: HND cert can not be parallel with degree becuase goverment made it so, bt in reality HND cert is far better than degree. A PTI graduate is more respected accepted and honor than any any universities graduate in Nigeria.

which PTI ?

Handcuff:
which PTI ?

Petroleum Training Institute in Effurun Delta state.

Evestar200: Petroleum Training Institute in Effurun Delta state.

I heard about it once, how come it commands so much respect.

Evestar200: Petroleum Training Institute in Effurun Delta state.

It's now called a University.

FUPRE- Federal University of Petroleum Effurun.

Evestar200: Professors ko confessor ni, it must be equal or poly shld be scrap and turn all poly to uni

turn all poly to uni?are u serious?

Evestar200: true, Auchi poly was ranked 2nd best institution in Nigeria last year and if am not mistaken it was d 12 best institution in Africa and also the best poly in Africa follow by Namibia poly. And if u are talking abt ranking, unilag is no where near top cuz schools like OAU, uniben, Auchi, Unilorin, UNN, UI,AAU are ranked above unilag

lol...schools are ranked according to their presence in the web..


The Webometrics Rank of a university is strongly linked to the volume and quality of the contents it publishes on the Web.

chigo93: with d 200 u got,a university student uses the same textbook with a polytechnic student,or do think the professors make use of textbooks from heaven?Nigerians are just too myopic,they believe too much in qualifications,I have seen a final year engineering student in a university who doesn't understand properly the dynamics of calculus! Smiles

What's this guy spewing now?! When we were buying textbooks at the rate of #2,000/2,500 in my school and poly students were buying handouts #300/400, you're here telling us that there's no difference!

Handcuff:

I heard about it once, how come it commands so much respect.

the sch is different 4rm many nigeria higher institution, companies always assure their I.T Students employment after their HND, some companies employ them with OND result.

Odunharry:
turn all poly to uni?are u serious?

yes, 4 equal right

FrancisTony:

It's now called a University.

FUPRE- Federal University of Petroleum Effurun.

no, PTI is different 4rm FUPRE, they are 2 petroleum schs in Effurun, one poly (PTI) and the other university (FUPRE) and both are federal.

Mayb he doesnt pay attention in class dt tym.u knw one man best topic cn b anoda man worst topic

chigo93: with d 200 u got,a university student uses the same textbook with a polytechnic student,or do think the professors make use of textbooks from heaven?Nigerians are just too myopic,they believe too much in qualifications,I have seen a final year engineering student in a university who doesn't understand properly the dynamics of calculus! Smiles

to knw we are different.tke d issue of D.E,Where Nd wl com join us 4 200l and we wl stl b ahead of them in class wit just we doin a session.

Bro,death z far different frm sleep

If not d̶̲̥̅̊α† dis uni guys are scared of competition....y are u supporting d fed govt....its just unfair....u guys are not by any means beta......dere is none of ma mate in d university d̶̲̥̅̊α† can beat me on ma course....d 150 cut off is 4 ND and not HND,its just like part 2 of uni dats all,do u no d stress u go tru b4 gaining admission 4 HND agan afta ND.....anoda screening and anoda cut off mark,put 2geda is d̶̲̥̅̊α† not up 2 300.....tah

Connection and God grace.i pray mine wont b like dt o

FrancisTony:

Jamb cutoff mark can never be used to judge but employer of labour should engage both degree holder in a battle of intellect.

At least, we have people that used expo to score 260 in jamb and entered University with runse.
And some brilliant student with 240 in jamb settled for Polytechnic because they don't have money for University runse i.e they got admitted to poly easily.

#Enough said.

To me, degree doesn't really matter if you have connection. Three of my cousin that studied in YABATECH are working in a big company while some University graduate are busy roaming the street.

Make i just sit down dey look.

donphilopus:

What's this guy spewing now?! When we were buying textbooks at the rate of #2,000/2,500 in my school and poly students were buying handouts #300/400, you're here telling us that there's no difference!

you are just unreasonable. so teraja is meant only for university students abi?why are my even replying this fool!

michaeltotti: Mayb he doesnt pay attention in class dt tym.u knw one man best topic cn b anoda man worst topicto knw we are different.tke d issue of D.E,Where Nd wl com join us 4 200l and we wl stl b ahead of them in class wit just we doin a session.

Bro,death z far different frm sleep

and u are d one in death. I don't even see myself working for any company with my qualifications. To u guys that pay so much attention to degrees,I pray u find a good company that will place u on a 9ce salary at d end of every month.

akpur1: Poly this uni dat. Ave been 2both there is more work there than the universities. You can never compare Fed poly auchi to uniport,unilag,unical,delsu,convenat,bells,landmark,Rsust,AAU etc. Cos federal poly auchi is second best tetiary institution in Nigeria and best polytechnic in Africa. Where were universities?

Lol, pls wen u finish smoking ur weed, tell me cus I have a medal for u...olodo

michaeltotti: When i hustle nd gt 200 to study in uni and a gy score 150 to study in poly.and u want us to be equal?


Na lie,orelse d cutoff mark wl b equal also

I wonder o.. Y can't Nigerians just know their places and where dey belong

Evestar200: HND cert can not be parallel with degree becuase goverment made it so, bt in reality HND cert is far better than degree. A PTI graduate is more respected accepted and honor than any any universities graduate in Nigeria.

yes, it is true. We are respected everywhere. PTI is nt a school u joke with.

Impossible!!!what happens to technologists groomed in polytechnics
I agree that the discrimination is high but the technologist is no way near the technologists. HND holders may start getting admitted to 4th year rather than the normal 3rd yearfor improved welfare and attraction of the HND CERT.

HND can only get equivalent to a Degree, not equal.

Spotless180: yes, it is true. We are respected everywhere. PTI is nt a school u joke with.

dont mind d guy, he think sch is abt degree, he shld carry his degree and go and look 4 a job with a PTI HND holder, if he will not be put in d backyard and see d PTI HND holder been employed.

Some HND holders no doubt can outperform their (counterparts) bachelors degree holders in several respects. However, the aims of establishing these institutions obviously differs. Polytechnics are established with the aim to produce technical mid-level manpowers through practical and vocational trainings. Whereas, universities are to produce high-level manpowers, through higher educational programmes and research. The truth is, the two are not equal.

Why would a Polytechnic graduate desire equality to a B.Sc holder Its like eating beans and wanting it to taste like rice. Both institutions are very important to the society because they serve different purposes.
-In most private firms, HND is for senior supervisors (or technicians) and BSc for Entry level management.
-HND is deemed to be more technical oriented and BSc more managerial.
-Most schools dont allow HND holders do MSc without a PGD certification

Now, bearing in mind these different outcomes/opportunities, anyone who commited to HND/ BSc did so of his own accord. You shouldn't seek equality but more opportunities; or better still, step up your education with a PGD/MSc.

Our only problem is that most people could not pass JAMB well enough to go through a university, and were not boxed up enough to do a Diploma or Pre degree programme. They want to pass through the back door . In the end, whether na university or Poly, when you finish and you no get work>>> You are both EQUALLY unemployed!

donphilopus:

What's this guy spewing now?! When we were buying textbooks at the rate of #2,000/2,500 in my school and poly students were buying handouts #300/400, you're here telling us that there's no difference!

lol ur brain is damn little so books u buy determine the level of degree lol weyrey so re u telling me that a polytechnic architect can bag msc cuz of bookz and instrumentz he/she buy? weyrey...... which school admit u sefff

Bwaal: lol ur brain is damn little so books u buy determine the level of degree lol weyrey so re u telling me that a polytechnic architect can bag msc cuz of bookz and instrumentz he/she buy? weyrey...... which school admit u sefff

Guy, are you sure all is well with you at all?! If YES, then why are you so silly to comprehend my post?! I only quoted the post to let him know that what he said was wrong. Or, is your brain too daft to know that Universities and Polytechnics don't use the same books as alleged by the guy I qouted?!

Pls, if you've nothing meaningful to spew next time, don't ever quote me. You must be a product of a failed polytechnic!

Evestar200: dont mind d guy, he think sch is abt degree, he shld carry his degree and go and look 4 a job with a PTI HND holder, if he will not be put in d backyard and see d PTI HND holder been employed.

did u attend pti?

salbis: Some HND holder no doubt can outperform their bachelors degree holders in several respects. However, the aims of establishing these institutions obviously differs. Polytechnics are established with the aim to produce technical mid-level manpowers through practical and vocational trainings. Whereas, universities are to produce high-level manpowers, through higher educational programmes and research. The truth is, the two are not equal.

adde: Why would a Polytechnic graduate desire equality to a B.Sc holder Its like eating beans and wanting it to taste like rice. Both institutions are very important to the society because they serve different purposes.
-In most private firms, HND is for senior supervisors (or technicians) and BSc for Entry level management.
-HND is deemed to be more technical oriented and BSc more managerial.
-Most schools dont allow HND holders do MSc without a PGD certification
Now, bearing in mind these different outcomes/opportunities, anyone who commited to HND/ BSc did so of his own accord. You shouldn't seek equality but more opportunities; or better still, step up your education with a PGD/MSc.
Our only problem is that most people could not pass JAMB well enough to go through a university, and were not boxed up enough to do a Diploma or Pre degree programme. They want to pass through the back door . In the end, whether na university or Poly, when you finish and you no get work>>> You are both EQUALLY unemployed!

I strongly believe an educated reasonable fellow who don't waste their time and money shld not make further aurguement after these two posts.
Polytechnic should never be scrapped, the problem we have with our poly students is that many if them went to poly because they were unable to met the requirements of studying at Universities and not because the chose to.

Moreover the policy on education is very clear on this that is y poly and other technical colleges were not recognized in the Nigerian educational system (6-3-3-4), they were established to provide TVE (Technical and Vocational Education) to produce low and mid-level manpower for the society acceptable nationwide while Universities were established to provide high level managerial education to the society acceptable universally.
But because our defective educational system that had and still producing defective graduates do not allow clear different between the two and this was eventually led to some our leaders and same like citizen calling for equality of University (universal) and Polytechnic (local/national) products.
Only an uneducated literate will be calling for their equality.

donphilopus:

Guy, are you sure all is well with you at all?! If YES, then why are you so silly to comprehend my post?! I only quoted the post to let him know that what he said was wrong. Or, is your brain too daft to know that Universities and Polytechnics don't use the same books as alleged by the guy I qouted?!

Pls, if you've nothing meaning to spew next time, don't ever quote me. You must be a product of a failed polytechnic!

lol for ur blank mind

The case would remain in the old shape it was. Right from admission process, the dichotomy has been made cleared and set. Ninety-nine percent of students who are in Polytechnic today wish they gain admission in University from the onset of their admission hurdle but due to thier inability to get there they have no other choice than switching to where their ability lies.

Let set the record straight without being biased. A University has it mode of impacting likewise Poly does. I heard some people making reference to themselves that they teach a university student likewise so many university students do.

An institution can only build a man and it is left to the man to convince the world that he has built himself. Truly we have some uni students that can't defend their certificate just like the way some poly student can't stand the knowledge of some secondary school students.

Some polytechnics in Nigeria are not even worthwhile to be called Higher institution but a mere advanced secondary school base on their facilities and products.

What I think we should be concerned about is the adulterate condition of our education in Nigeria not the dichotomy in degrees. We have some polytechnic students who are better paid or employed than their counterpart.

A degree doesn't makes a man but a man makes a degree.
A university or polytechnic graduate should be made to create Jobs with their mindset not to just be a doll looking for job alone....

Spotless180: did u attend pti?

no, Ozoro poly

They just want to fit in

Osahon7: I wonder o.. Y can't Nigerians just know their places and where dey belong

d Nigeria educational system doesnt recognise poly gan wit dia 6-3-3-4 system.

dd u nw see we managing d poly product in Nigeria?

Anser dz que plx:na wch institution u first pursue b4 it eventualy lead u to poly?y u no chuz ur poly and nt worry abt uni.y deviating frm d truth?

chigo93: and u are d one in death. I don't even see myself working for any company with my qualifications. To u guys that pay so much attention to degrees,I pray u find a good company that will place u on a 9ce salary at d end of every month.

HND IS EQUIVALENT To Bsc bt nt equal
#shikena