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How The Separation Of Church/mosque And State Will Benefitafrica by iamord(m): 8:28am On Jul 11, 2014 |
In Africa, separating religion and state presents a very difficult challenge. Secularism is viewed with suspicion, and sometimes with opposition. But our constitutional principle has hardly translated into reality because of enormous influence of religious establishments on politics and governance. Secularism is a 'paper tiger' that has little or no bearing on practical politics in many parts of the region. Secular government is seen as a ideal form of government, a western contraption. Separating Church(Mosque) and State is perceived as a form of political utopia that is alien to the African notion of government. Religion and state mix in real African politics. Church(Mosque) and State merge in real governance. The reality of mixing religion and state is not the same in countries across the region. The situation is worse in muslim majority states because there is lack of appreciation of separating mosque and state. Countries are described as islamic republics. States are not res publica- public property but islamic public property. There is no distinction between the islamic space and public space.Islam is the state religion and sharia is the de facto state law or the basis of the state law. Separating church(mosque) and state poses a serious challenge to politicians because democracy is a game of numbers and votes count. No politician wants to be seen to be anti religion. Democracy is characterized by the rule of the majority. The will of the people is often motivated or swayed by religion. Religious interests determine the fate of politicians. So state actors pander to religious sentiments in order to legitimize themselves- to win elections or maintain their hold on power. Politicians use religion to enhance their political ambitions despite constitutional provisions. Politicians do- and can do it anything to win the majority of votes even if it means replacing secular state laws with religious laws or making religious sins state crimes. In consequence, this ambiguous relationship between church/mosque and state has not reflected positively and progressively on democracy and governance in the region. Mixing religion and state has led to conflicts, division brainwash and discrimination. It has resulted to a politics of exclusion, a form of religious divide and rule. Lack of separation of church and state has hampered the evolution of a modern democratic Africa because politics is not shaped by the will of the people but purportedly by the will of god or allah, jesus, mumhamed or better by the will of godmen and women. Unelected priests, Ulema, Bishops and Imams,prophets, not the elected representatives of the people determine the laws and policies which states adopt. Many democracies in Africa are de facto theocracies because religious Africans have translated their articles of faith in god into political norms. The politics of the states is determined more by what goes on in churches and mosques than what transpires in the parliament or state houses. Lack of separation of church (mosque) and state in practical politics has undermined the realization of a peaceful, tolerant and progressive society because state laws have become religious dogmas writ large. Presidents, governors and lawmakers are quasi clerics- priests, sheikhs, bishops and imams. One aspect of African society where the negative impact of mixing religion and politics is so manifest in Africa is in tackling religious extremism particularly islamic militancy. Many muslim majority countries in Africa are grappling with the problem of islamic fundamentalism. They have recorded with limited success in this fight due to lack of separation of mosque and state. For instance, in Nigeria, an islamic militant group, Boko Haram has been waging a violent campaign to implement a stricter version of sharia law and enthrone an islamic state(1). Boko Haram leverages on the prevalence of political islam in the region including the ongoing state implementation of sharia law. Due to the merging of mosque and state by the government in this region, states are not neutrally positioned to tackle the problem of islamism head on because there is some commonality between the agenda of the sharia implementing states and that of Boko Haram. Disentangling state law, justice system, policy making from Islam will better position the African governments defeat Boko Haram and other militants groups fighting in Nigeria, Mali, Somalia to enthrone an islamic state. Another area where the negative impact of mixing religion and politics is very manifest is in the area human rights protection. This has clearly been demonstrated in the case of Meriam Ibrahim, a christian woman who was sentenced to death in Sudan because she refused to renounce her christian faith. Ms Ibrahim has reportedly been freed from jail but the circumstances that led to her conviction and imprisonment in the first place require some reflection(2). Meriam was born to a muslim father and a christian mother. But she was raised a christian by her mother. The islamic court in Sudan ruled that Meriam's profession of christianity was apostasy and that she be put to death. Ms Ibrahim was pregnant at the time of her conviction and gave birth to her baby while shackled in prison. The judgement was possible because sharia law is currently in force in Sudan. Since 1983 Sudan has enforced a translation of the patriarchal misogynistic norms of islam that are incompatible with universal human rights. And I ask, Why must the paternity not the maternity of Meriam count in her profession of religion? Why must paternity or maternity count at all? Is religion inherited? If someone's father or mother is a muslim, must the person remain a muslim? Why the compulsion to remain a muslim? Religious profession is a right which every individual exercises despite the religion of the parents. Religious confession is not inherited from one's father or mother. Is it? Changing one's religion or converting to another religion is and should be free. It should not be on the pain of death. But it is the case in Sudan due to lack of separation of mosque and state, even in other african countries people discriminate for switching religions. The secularization of Sudan will help the country end this legalized discrimination that makes a caricature of its claim to protecting human rights, especially the freedom of religion. Disentangling the state of Sudan and its justice system from islam will make the government an impartial arbiter and guarantor of the equal rights of all individuals in the countries. Islam and christianity are ancient religions with norms that are incompatible with those of a modern democratic state. Separating church(mosque) and state will enable African governments tackle poverty and improve their economy. Mixing religion and politics is impoverishing African countries and undermining their efforts to conquer poverty and underdevelopment. Due to lack of separation or its violation by politicians, many poor African states spend billions of dollars every year sponsoring pilgrimages to the holy lands (3), building churches and mosques(4) and paying clerics(5). These pilgrimages contribute to the economies of host nations like Israel or Saudi Arabia not those of Africans. If African governments separate church/mosque and state, these funds will be saved and will be better utilized in building schools, improving the standard of education, creating jobs and embarking on real developmental projects that can yeild tangible measurable returns that could lift millions of Africans out of poverty. Separating church(mosque) and state has become a most urgent and compelling project for African peoples and their governments in this 21st century. So let the secularization of Africa begin. What's your view on this? |
Re: How The Separation Of Church/mosque And State Will Benefitafrica by drfk001(m): 8:41am On Jul 11, 2014 |
this is the exact thing Nigeria needs |
Re: How The Separation Of Church/mosque And State Will Benefitafrica by iamord(m): 9:45am On Jul 11, 2014 |
drfk001: this is the exact thing Nigeria needsthank u! africa ! Not just nigeria .. The religious menace is getting out of hand.. The sons and daughters on nigeria are going astray |
Re: How The Separation Of Church/mosque And State Will Benefitafrica by kingston277(m): 2:38am On Jul 12, 2014 |
I agree, hopefully this will lead to more respect for peoples cultures and objective thinking. |
Re: How The Separation Of Church/mosque And State Will Benefitafrica by uzoexcel(m): 8:05pm On Jul 14, 2014 |
once in a while, when been alone i reflect a lot and i have almost concluded that religion was/is a device to repress the negro from 'thinking'. lemme share a video by malcolm x on this thread from '2.40 of this clip supports by view by malc X https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcXbzDeJpIc 1 Like |
Re: How The Separation Of Church/mosque And State Will Benefitafrica by uzolexis(f): 6:45pm On Jul 18, 2014 |
uzoexcel: once in a while, when been alone i reflect a lot and i have almost concluded that religion was/is a device to repress the negro from 'thinking'. lemme share a video by malcolm x on this thread this is not an excuse for you to become an atheist....i'm warning you |
Re: How The Separation Of Church/mosque And State Will Benefitafrica by uzoexcel(m): 7:27pm On Jul 18, 2014 |
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Re: How The Separation Of Church/mosque And State Will Benefitafrica by uzolexis(f): 7:31pm On Jul 18, 2014 |
uzoexcel: Stop stalking me you are stuck with me,whether you like it or not. |
Re: How The Separation Of Church/mosque And State Will Benefitafrica by Horus(m): 9:39pm On Jul 18, 2014 |
The problem with Africans in religion apart from the fact that is based on blind faith and belief, (rather than fact) is that it is not African in origin. Why must we insist on worshipping other than our own? Why must we insist on worshipping alien religions?. Christianity and Islam were forced upon us after we were invaded and enslaved by other races. Northern Africa went through a period of Arabization which included the spread of Islam across the continent. Later during the European/American or Transatlantic slave trade and during the scramble for Africa Christianity and their foreign languages were forced upon us. Now you have black people living together who worship different Gods, and speak different languages, when on top of that we are already diverse enough as it is. What other races worship other than self and kind in as much as blacks. None! Its simple. Christianity is meant for white Europeans, Jesus was sent to the lost sheep of the House of Israel (Genesis 15:34). Are you an Israelite? No! So he doesn’t care about you leave it alone. Muhammad was sent to his own, Middle Eastern people. Indians have Hinduism, the Chinese have Buddhism etc. We blacks seem to worship everything other than our own. 3 Likes |
Re: How The Separation Of Church/mosque And State Will Benefitafrica by iamord(m): 5:52am On Jul 19, 2014 |
uzolexis:the seperation doesn not mean you will become an atheist however I respect all religions but there has to be a degree of influence they can have on the society. So far the missionary is taking over the educational system. I don't know if u see a problem in that..Nigeria. Sons and daughters are been wisked away by a lot of infulence.. U don't need a nuclear bomb to destory them. You their thinking has been designed to fail already. If we don't stop this I tell u there will be no movig forward |
Re: How The Separation Of Church/mosque And State Will Benefitafrica by Nobody: 7:35am On Jul 19, 2014 |
I believe firmly that there should be a clear delineation between Religion and State but despite this belief I don't subscribe to a situation where the West dictates this for everyone because that in itself is the very antithesis of democracy. The majority of people in a Country should determine for themselves whether they want this separation between Religion and State such that, irrespective of the decision they make, the inalienable rights of the minority are protected. |
Re: How The Separation Of Church/mosque And State Will Benefitafrica by dorox(m): 9:20am On Jul 19, 2014 |
striktlymi: I believe firmly that there should be a clear delineation between Religion and State but despite this belief I don't subscribe to a situation where the West dictates this for everyone because that in itself is the very antithesis of democracy.The choice of allowing the majority of people in a country to determine for themselves whether or not they want a separation between Religion and State such that that can offer a measure of protections to the rights of the minority is a false choice because, a democracy that is subject to religious laws like the Sharia can never be able to protect the rights of the minority, so unless the people chose to separate religion from state, you will be restricted from practicing your religion openly should you be in the minority. |
Re: How The Separation Of Church/mosque And State Will Benefitafrica by Nobody: 10:01am On Jul 19, 2014 |
dorox: The choice may be wrong but that's is the beauty of democracy. Allowing the people air their opinion, such that the choice of the majority prevails at the end of the day. It would be nothing short of dictatorship if a people are forced to make a choice they don't want. You or I may not like it but that really is immaterial because it is about the majority with very reasonable respect for the freedom of the minority. Democracy is democracy irrespective of whether Religion and State are separated or not. A true democracy does not give room for the strong to prey upon the weak, unreasonably. The right to life, right to reasonable association and the many other rights that are not subject to any constitution or system of Government must be upheld in a democracy. 1 Like |
Re: How The Separation Of Church/mosque And State Will Benefitafrica by dorox(m): 10:25am On Jul 19, 2014 |
striktlymi:My point is that a democracy that is subject the the religious laws of the majority cannot protect the rights of the minority. To be able to protect the rights of minorities, religion and State has to be two separate entities. |
Re: How The Separation Of Church/mosque And State Will Benefitafrica by Nobody: 10:32am On Jul 19, 2014 |
dorox: Why can't it protect their rights? A country like Turkey should be an example of a country that is trying to harmonize democracy and Religion without hindering the inalienable rights of the minority. |
Re: How The Separation Of Church/mosque And State Will Benefitafrica by dorox(m): 10:57am On Jul 19, 2014 |
striktlymi:Turkey has been a secularized country since 1924 guaranteeing freedom of religion to all within its border. Though of recent many muslims have been calling for the reintroduction of sharia law which minorities claim will restrict their rights. |
Re: How The Separation Of Church/mosque And State Will Benefitafrica by Nobody: 11:15am On Jul 19, 2014 |
dorox: Secular countries do not make Religion a must in public schools. Turkey does this. Though they may say they are secular state but the truth is that Turkey is an Islamic state. One of the reasons they were having a had time joining the EU. |
Re: How The Separation Of Church/mosque And State Will Benefitafrica by mkpakanaodogwu(m): 8:54pm On Jul 19, 2014 |
So@striktimi what is ur point,so if d majority in nigeria are muslim sharia should be forced down my throat?, |
Re: How The Separation Of Church/mosque And State Will Benefitafrica by Nobody: 6:16pm On Jul 20, 2014 |
mkpakanaodogwu: So@striktimi what is ur point,so if d majority in nigeria are muslim sharia should be forced down my throat?, Yes! That is democracy! Though the rights of the minority must not be sacrificed. |
Re: How The Separation Of Church/mosque And State Will Benefitafrica by dorox(m): 7:44pm On Jul 20, 2014 |
striktlymi:But Turkey is officially a secular State, however if your argument is that they are not one hundred percent compliant with your ideal definition of a secular state, I would grant you that. Name any State that is governed by sharia, and I will also name that State as an example of a State without the basic protection for human rights and rights of minorities. |
Re: How The Separation Of Church/mosque And State Will Benefitafrica by iamord(m): 9:26pm On Jul 20, 2014 |
This is suppose to be on front page |
Re: How The Separation Of Church/mosque And State Will Benefitafrica by mkpakanaodogwu(m): 5:41pm On Jul 26, 2014 |
striktlymi:what happend to freedom of worship? |
Re: How The Separation Of Church/mosque And State Will Benefitafrica by Nobody: 9:28pm On Jul 26, 2014 |
mkpakanaodogwu: what happend to freedom of worship? That's part of the fundamental rights I mentioned. |
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