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Re: Wives, Children Stop Military Trucks Conveying Soldiers To Fight Boko Haram by atlwireles: 5:00pm On Aug 11, 2014
EasternLeopard:

Nigeria military was fortunate to fight with rebel groups that failed to acquire Anti-aircraft guns to neutralise the airforce.

If they had done so, the Nigerian military won't have won the war or the military would have won it at great price/time

The Nigerian army killed without looking back in Liberia and sierra lone. Imagine gwoza been Liberia, Everybody will either be dead or the whole place burnt down. That was how we won in Liberia. Odi kind of invasion. Most Liberians would tell you today, Nigeria forces were worse than the rebels. If Nigerians want a victory over boko haram, there is an army template ready to carry it out.

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Re: Wives, Children Stop Military Trucks Conveying Soldiers To Fight Boko Haram by Hunkyimage(m): 5:26pm On Aug 11, 2014
Khalessi:
gringringringrin cry

Lolzzzz,stupidt Khaleesi,correct d Quaker Oat rather than laffin' at his mistake.... cheesy
Re: Wives, Children Stop Military Trucks Conveying Soldiers To Fight Boko Haram by Princepioneer(m): 5:48pm On Aug 11, 2014
Khalessi:
Senseless twát learn to use that tiny thing in your skull. grin
now you confirmed what you are?
Re: Wives, Children Stop Military Trucks Conveying Soldiers To Fight Boko Haram by IYANGBALI: 5:55pm On Aug 11, 2014
Emeca: One wonders what EXACTLY d billions of dollars spent on fighting the insurgency is used for.
used on women and properties
Re: Wives, Children Stop Military Trucks Conveying Soldiers To Fight Boko Haram by EasternLeopard: 6:00pm On Aug 11, 2014
atlwireles:

The Nigerian army killed without looking back in Liberia and sierra lone. Imagine gwoza been Liberia, Everybody will either be dead or the whole place burnt down. That was how we won in Liberia. Odi kind of invasion. Most Liberians would tell you today, Nigeria forces were worse than the rebels. If Nigerians want a victory over boko haram, there is an army template ready to carry it out.

Comrade

Have being studying the Nigerian military for years

Nigerian military has not fought a military/rebel that cared to neutralise her key assets which are 1) airpower 2) tanks 3) artilleries 4) mass attack.

BH has studied the military and has seen this weakness which they are exploiting to the fullness

Mark my words

If you buy the army the weapons used by BH, victory is not certain

What the boys are asking for are superior weapons because they know from experience that if they are on the same technology with BH, their chances of winning is slim.

Nigeria military has won are wars with superior technology/numbers. This is the second time they are facing an enemy that have found a way to neutralise their strength.

The first enemy to exploit this weakness to their advantage were Niger Delta militants.
Re: Wives, Children Stop Military Trucks Conveying Soldiers To Fight Boko Haram by atlwireles: 6:10pm On Aug 11, 2014
EasternLeopard:

Comrade

Have being studying the Nigerian military for years

Nigerian military has not fought a military/rebel that cared to neutralise her key assets which are 1) airpower 2) tanks 3) artilleries 4) mass attack.

BH has studied the military and has seen this weakness which they are exploiting to the fullness

Mark my words

If you buy the army the weapons used by BH, victory is not certain

What the boys are asking for are superior weapons because they know from experience that if they are on the same technology with BH, their chances of winning is slim.

Nigeria military has won are wars with superior technology/numbers. This is the second time they are facing an enemy that have found a way to neutralise their strength.

The first enemy to exploit this weakness to their advantage were Niger Delta militants.

Superior weapons used against boko haram terrorist dressed like a woman hiding in a market? Okada riders shooting from behind schools and people's house. Hamas comes to mind, we have to decide what we call victory with boko haram. Most of boko haram fighting is done in villages, towns and cities, with high civilian population . New superior weapons will not help. If we are are not ready, to live with very high collateral damage.

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Re: Wives, Children Stop Military Trucks Conveying Soldiers To Fight Boko Haram by tit(f): 6:21pm On Aug 11, 2014
1) set up a perimeter around Damboa
Build refugee/detainee center (tent and barbed wire cities) around Damboa
2) drop leaflets asking civilians to leave the town
3) screen civilians and detain any boko haram looking ones
4) pulverize Damboa with artillery (since BH has AA guns)
5) ground troops go in for fire-suppression
(The NA has been using troops to fight BH. Wrong. wrong wrong)
6) NA engineers can rebuild the 1000 - 3000 houses in Damboa in two months
7) Damboa case closed

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Re: Wives, Children Stop Military Trucks Conveying Soldiers To Fight Boko Haram by tit(f): 6:26pm On Aug 11, 2014
We can even get some Yorubass from Osun who are expert in mud houses and red roofs to rebuild Damboa.
They will do it cheaper than NA Engineer Corps.
And they like the ewa that grows in Borno.

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Re: Wives, Children Stop Military Trucks Conveying Soldiers To Fight Boko Haram by hamilton62(m): 6:38pm On Aug 11, 2014
alekside: Does it mean defense budget is spent on salaries alone? cry
No, most of the ammunitions boko boys are using is from our country amoury. There's sobotage in the military and it's got tap root.
The superior soldiers are the ones killing our patrotic soldiers. It's not easy to fish them out but the govt is trying.
GEJ can't be in Aso Rock and camps at same time.
They live and are part of the military. Remember, these people are Jihadist!
Re: Wives, Children Stop Military Trucks Conveying Soldiers To Fight Boko Haram by hamilton62(m): 6:51pm On Aug 11, 2014
atlwireles:

The Nigerian army killed without looking back in Liberia and sierra lone. Imagine gwoza been Liberia, Everybody will either be dead or the whole place burnt down. That was how we won in Liberia. Odi kind of invasion. Most Liberians would tell you today, Nigeria forces were worse than the rebels. If Nigerians want a victory over boko haram, there is an army template ready to carry it out.
You are right... That tap is a sight to be behold by those who don't know what Nigeria military is; we are talking of one of the best soldiers in the world.
Re: Wives, Children Stop Military Trucks Conveying Soldiers To Fight Boko Haram by EasternLeopard: 7:01pm On Aug 11, 2014
atlwireles:

Superior weapons used against boko haram terrorist dressed like a woman hiding in a market? Okada riders shooting from behind schools and people's house. Hamas comes to mind, we have to decide what we call victory with boko haram. Most of boko haram fighting is done in villages, towns and cities, with high civilian population . New superior weapons will not help. If we are are not ready, to live with very high collateral damage.

What of Gwazo Damboa etc

What of the attack on Giwa barrack

Sir

BH are now fighting in conventional style

In Borno

BH are now attacking in regular military styles
Re: Wives, Children Stop Military Trucks Conveying Soldiers To Fight Boko Haram by atlwireles: 7:02pm On Aug 11, 2014
EasternLeopard:

What of Gwazo Damboa etc

What of the attack on Giwa barrack

Sir

BH are now fighting in conventional style

In Borno

BH are now attacking in regular military styles

Boko haram has not fought one conventional battle till date. Hit and run as usual.
Re: Wives, Children Stop Military Trucks Conveying Soldiers To Fight Boko Haram by EasternLeopard: 7:08pm On Aug 11, 2014
hamilton62:
You are right... That tap is a sight to be behold by those who don't know what Nigeria military is; we are talking of one of the best soldiers in the world.

How can you claim to be a brilliant student if you keep failing you exams in secondary school after a glorious primary school era

How can the military boast of being the best if it can't overcome BH after a glorious ECOMOG era
Re: Wives, Children Stop Military Trucks Conveying Soldiers To Fight Boko Haram by EasternLeopard: 7:09pm On Aug 11, 2014
atlwireles:

Boko haram has not fought one conventional battle till date. Hit and run as usual.

And they are in control of Gwoza and Damboa

Only God knows which town they are set to overcome
Re: Wives, Children Stop Military Trucks Conveying Soldiers To Fight Boko Haram by atlwireles: 7:16pm On Aug 11, 2014
EasternLeopard:

How can you claim to be a brilliant student if you keep failing you exams in secondary school after a glorious primary school era

How can the military boast of being the best if it can't over BH after a glorious ECOMOG era

Allow the Nigeria ARMY FIGHT THE SAME BATTLE THEY FOUGHT IN LIBERIA, COME BACK AND TELL US WHAT IS LEFT OF BOKO HARAM AFTER 24 HRS.
Re: Wives, Children Stop Military Trucks Conveying Soldiers To Fight Boko Haram by atlwireles: 7:17pm On Aug 11, 2014
EasternLeopard:

And they are in control of Gwoza and Damboa

Only God knows which town they are set to overcome

Who is in control of Gwoza?
Re: Wives, Children Stop Military Trucks Conveying Soldiers To Fight Boko Haram by EasternLeopard: 7:20pm On Aug 11, 2014
atlwireles:

Allow the Nigeria ARMY FIGHT THE SAME BATTLE THEY FOUGHT IN LIBERIA, COME BACK AND TELL US WHAT IS LEFT OF BOKO HARAM AFTER 24 HRS.

Bros are you not current

GEJ gave directives last 2-3 weeks that the military should do all within its power to stop BH

What other order do the military needs to stop BH
Re: Wives, Children Stop Military Trucks Conveying Soldiers To Fight Boko Haram by tit(f): 7:21pm On Aug 11, 2014
atlwireles:

Allow the Nigeria ARMY FIGHT THE SAME BATTLE THEY FOUGHT IN LIBERIA, COME BACK AND TELL US WHAT IS LEFT OF BOKO HARAM AFTER 24 HRS.

Bh is not foolish.
They have battle hardened veterans from the ME. This is the information age. BH is getting info about tactics and strategy from Hezbollah, Hamaz, Al Shabab, etc. They are not just ignorant peasants.
The NA should stop trying to fight ECOMOG in the NE.
They should study our enemy and defeat him.
Re: Wives, Children Stop Military Trucks Conveying Soldiers To Fight Boko Haram by EasternLeopard: 7:23pm On Aug 11, 2014
atlwireles:

Who is in control of Gwoza?


Information on ground says BH

Today on air

The women/ children blocked the barrack gate against troops called to recapture Gwazo/Damboa
Re: Wives, Children Stop Military Trucks Conveying Soldiers To Fight Boko Haram by atlwireles: 7:25pm On Aug 11, 2014
tit:

Bh is not foolish.
They have battle hardened veterans from the ME. This is the information age. BH is getting info about tactics and strategy from Hezbollah, Hamaz, Al Shabab, etc. They are not just ignorant peasants.
The NA should stop trying to fight ECOMOG in the NE.
They should study our enemy and defeat him.

Boko haram is not fight a war, they are veterans of nothing. When we are ready to put down boko haram. We will cut them to pieces in hours. Just no complain of slaughtering northerners., because that what its going to take, to bring peace to the northeast.
Re: Wives, Children Stop Military Trucks Conveying Soldiers To Fight Boko Haram by EasternLeopard: 7:25pm On Aug 11, 2014
tit:

Bh is not foolish.
They have battle hardened veterans from the ME. This is the information age. BH is getting info about tactics and strategy from Hezbollah, Hamaz, Al Shabab, etc. They are not just ignorant peasants.
The NA should stop trying to fight ECOMOG in the NE.
They should study our enemy and defeat him.

God bless you my sister

My good friend atwireless is not seeing the big picture
Re: Wives, Children Stop Military Trucks Conveying Soldiers To Fight Boko Haram by atlwireles: 7:30pm On Aug 11, 2014
EasternLeopard:


Information on ground says BH

Today on air

The women/ children blocked the barrack gate against troops called to recapture Gwazo/Damboa

Boko is not in control of anything. And those women and children need to gladly ask their fathers and husbands to leave the army. Their fathers mislead them about the profession they chose.
Re: Wives, Children Stop Military Trucks Conveying Soldiers To Fight Boko Haram by atlwireles: 7:33pm On Aug 11, 2014
EasternLeopard:

Bros are you not current

GEJ gave directives last 2-3 weeks that the military should do all within its power to stop BH

What other order do the military needs to stop BH

We will not be talking about Gwoza, if those orders are carried out. Damboa and Gwoza will look like Odi.
Re: Wives, Children Stop Military Trucks Conveying Soldiers To Fight Boko Haram by EasternLeopard: 7:34pm On Aug 11, 2014
atlwireles:

Boko haram is not fight a war, they are veterans of nothing. When we are ready to put down boko haram. We will cut them to pieces in hours. Just no complain of slaughtering northerners., because that what its going to take, to bring peace to the northeast.

The issue you failed to see is that this guys have studied our military and discovered how to overcome them

Let me help you out

Do you know that military superior Libya lost a war to military inferior Chad

How

The French taught them how to exploit Toyota mounted Anti-aircraft weapons to over Libya armoured units

These guys are using the same strategy in a modified form against our troops and we keep responding in old fashion tactics.

Have suggested the creation of a Guerrilla Division armed with specially made long range guns to move in small numbers at night , search and snipe BH commanders only and call in long range rockets to destroy BH camps scattered in the North East
Re: Wives, Children Stop Military Trucks Conveying Soldiers To Fight Boko Haram by atlwireles: 7:37pm On Aug 11, 2014
EasternLeopard:

The issue you failed to see is that this guys have studied our military and discovered how to overcome them

Let me help you out

Do you know that military superior Libya lost a war to military inferior Chad

How

The French taught them how to exploit Toyota mounted Anti-aircraft weapons to over Libya armoured units

These guys are using the same strategy in a modified form against our troops and we keep responding in old fashion tactics.

Have suggested the creation of a Guerrilla Division armed with specially made long range guns to move in small numbers at night , search and snipe BH commanders only and call in long range rockets to destroy BH camps scattered in the North East

You are giving too much credit to boko haram, because of Nigerian politics. We will not kill them like flies, kill anybody supporting them in those villages. Just level the whole fucckingplace place. Guess what, there will such an out cry. We have to live with this cosmetic battle we call war.
Re: Wives, Children Stop Military Trucks Conveying Soldiers To Fight Boko Haram by EasternLeopard: 7:37pm On Aug 11, 2014
atlwireles:

We will not be talking about Gwoza, if those orders are carried out. Damboa and Gwoza will look like Odi.

Sir

The military has received such orders
Re: Wives, Children Stop Military Trucks Conveying Soldiers To Fight Boko Haram by Bomi(m): 7:39pm On Aug 11, 2014
YoursGEJ:

You are a useless human being who is not even worth the space you're occupying. We are talking about people's loved ones here and you are asking them to go and die in the name of oath while your pot-bellied generals continue to loot money and buy choice properties in Abuja and to buy their kids bentleys and fly them abroad. Did you even consider the concerns of those women and children or do you not just care? If their breadwinners die while fighting without equipment, will you take care of their families? God will judge you

That story does not stop there! There is problem in Nigeria, the other day Chief of Army Staff alleged that he has problem accessing money ment for prosecution of this war, that he has to bribe from table to table in Ministry of Finance. Do you know that now for an Army officer to go on course -Senior Div, you have to bribe the senators!

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Re: Wives, Children Stop Military Trucks Conveying Soldiers To Fight Boko Haram by EasternLeopard: 7:40pm On Aug 11, 2014
atlwireles:

You are giving too much credit to boko haram, because of Nigerian politics.

Most active e-politicians on NL knows am a pro GEJ

But that won't stop me from stating facts

I say facts so that Biafrans can know how best to overcome these guys if war breaks out
Re: Wives, Children Stop Military Trucks Conveying Soldiers To Fight Boko Haram by tit(f): 7:40pm On Aug 11, 2014
atlwireles:

Boko haram is not fight a war, they are veterans of nothing. When we are ready to put down boko haram. We will cut them to pieces in hours. Just no complain of slaughtering northerners., because that what its going to take, to bring peace to the northeast.

I read about General Grant and the US civil war yesterday. The NA has to stay in contact with BH for sustained periods. They can replace their losses. BH cannot do so as rapidly. The losses, sabotage, ambushes and mistakes should be anticipated and planned for. I do not call for wholesale adoption of Grants WW I strategy.
In Sierra Leone, the NA fought against the Sierra Leone Army which defected and joined the rebellion against Tejan kabbah(?). Like Biafran officers, the "Sobels" doctrine was dictated by their conventional training in Sandhurst and Poms(?) etc. This must have made it easy for the NA officers to understand the enemy and deal with them.
Against BH, you are against a doctrine incumbated by the Americans in the mountains of Afghanistan. This has morphed with experience from all over the world: Chad vs Libya, Long Range Desert Patrol, Hezbollah, Aideed, Hamas, ISIL. The NA red-necks better sit down and start taking notes.
Re: Wives, Children Stop Military Trucks Conveying Soldiers To Fight Boko Haram by EasternLeopard: 7:45pm On Aug 11, 2014
tit:

I read about General Grant and the US civil war yesterday. The NA has to stay in contact with BH for sustained periods. They can replace their losses. BH cannot do so as rapidly. The losses, sabotage, ambushes and mistakes should be anticipated and planned for. I do not call for wholesale adoption of Grants WW I strategy.
In Sierra Leone, the NA fought against the Sierra Leone Army which defected and joined the rebellion against Tejan kabbah(?). Like Biafran officers, the "Sobels" doctrine was dictated by their conventional training in Sandhurst and Poms(?) etc. This must have made it easy for the NA officers to understand the enemy and deal with them.
Against BH, you are against a doctrine incumbated by the Americans in the mountains of Afghanistan. This has morphed with experience from all over the world: Chad vs Libya, Long Range Desert Patrol, Hezbollah, Aideed, Hamas, ISIL. The NA red-necks better sit down and start taking notes.

God bless you

It seems you are fast learning warfare from past wars and their major players
Re: Wives, Children Stop Military Trucks Conveying Soldiers To Fight Boko Haram by EasternLeopard: 7:50pm On Aug 11, 2014
Bomi:
That story does not stop there! There is problem in Nigeria, the other day Chief of Army Staff alleged that he has problem accessing money ment for prosecution of this war, that he has to bribe from table to table in Ministry of Finance. Do you know that now for an Army officer to go on course -Senior Div, you have to bribe the senators!

And you believe this story

Pls

Why didn't Ihejirika complained of this since the present Finance minister was the same minister during Ihejirika's era
Re: Wives, Children Stop Military Trucks Conveying Soldiers To Fight Boko Haram by tit(f): 7:52pm On Aug 11, 2014
atlwireles:

Just level the whole fucckingplace place. Guess what, there will such an out cry. We have to live with this cosmetic battle we call war.

Give civilians one week to leave the town. All they have to do is trek about 5 miles out of town. (the sick, the old, the infirm).
The Americans did it in Fallujah. gave civilians time to get out and then moved in the devil-dogs. (unfortunately, they went into hand to hand street to street fighting with the (xIraqi army) Sunni militants. i would have shelled every damn single house in fallujah till we have total fire suppression)

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