Assalam alaikum brothers and sisters in Islam, dear NL'ers good day to you all.

My aim is to push away the misunderstanding on not only the christians, jews etc and also the muslims about JIHAD.

Most people when asked what jihad means, the first thing that comes to their mind is war, fighting, killing.

Dear brothers and sisters absorb my write up below

Q1:What is Jihad?
A: The Arabic wordJihadis derived from the verbJahada- meaningto strive or struggle. In Islamic terminology it means to make an effort, to endeavour and to strive for a noble cause. The word is generally used to describe any type of striving in the cause of Allah (God).  According to Islamic teachings there are three main types of Jihad and they all seek to establish and promote peace in society, as explained below.
Types of Jihad
According to Islamic teachings there are three main categories of Jihad:
(i)Jihad-e-Akbarie jihad of the highest order.
This is the jihad (struggle) for self-reformation.The struggle is against our own temptations such as greed, lust and other worldly temptations. This is a journey of a person from an ‘animalistic’ state of existence ie living for immediate gratification or gain to one where his psyche is disciplined enough to exercise moral control. This type of jihad is obligatory on every Muslim throughout his life.
(ii)Jihad-e-Kabirie major jihad.
This is the jihad of propagation of the truth, the message of Qur’an. The Qur’an also instructs us to spread this message with wisdom, tolerance and respect to others and their beliefs,
16:126-Call unto the way of thy Lord with wisdom and goodly exhortation...;
6:109– And revile not those whom they call upon beside Allah, lest they, out of spite, revile Allah in their ignorance. Thus unto every people have We caused their doing to seem fair. Then unto their Lord is their return; and He will inform them of what they used to do.
It prohibits the use of any coercion or force,
2:257–There should be no compulsion in religion. Surely, right has become distinct from wrong; so whosoever refuses to be led by those who transgress, and believes in Allah, has surely grasped a strong handle which knows no breaking. And Allah is All-Hearing, All-Knowing.
According to the Qur’an anyone who devotes his time, effort, wealth or knowledge to the cause of righteousness is practising Jihad-e-Kabir. This is also obligatory on all Muslims.
(iii)Jihad-e-Asgharie jihad of the lower order.
This is the jihad of a defensive battle.The Qur’an has clearly restricted this type of jihad to certain conditions while forbidding transgression of any sort.
            1. The battle can only be defensive and not an offensive one.
(2:191-And fight in the cause of Allah against those who fight against you, but do not transgress. Surely Allah loves not the transgressors.)
2. Muslims should have faced oppression in the practice of their religion and a threat to their life.
3. Muslims should have been driven out of their homes; the teaching is to initially leave from where the oppression is taking place, and if the oppressor attacks the Muslims to stop them from practice of their religion in the new abode and also threaten their lives, only in these circumstances are the Muslims allowed to take up arms in a defensive battle.
Further on, there are clear directions in what can and cannot be done in a battle fought by the Muslims.
Civilians who are not fighting against Muslims are not to be attacked or killed at all.
Crops or other sources of food and water and cattle or other animals are not to be destroyed.
Hospitals, orphanages and other places of safety and refuge are not to be destroyed.
Mosques, churches, synagogues or other places of worship are not to be destroyed.
Women, children, old and disabled are to be left untouched.
If the aggressor stops the aggression or offers a treaty it should be accepted and the fighting stopped forthwith.
Fleeing oppressors need not be pursued to any unnecessary length and should be allowed to return to their home.
Prisoners of War should be treated with respect and their basic needs be fulfilled and they should be freed or ransomed as soon as possible after the battle.
Hence it is very clear that the purpose of any such battle is still to restore peace and not to promote aggression. It is important to note that starting of such a battle is not in the hands of the Muslims but can only be initiated by an oppressor fulfilling the aforementioned conditions.

So please to those who think jihad means shedding blood, as u can see it is the lowest form of jihad.

Please understand and let's live in understanding

Thank you
Bisallam

Please read the rest >>>http://www.google.com/url?q=http://islamicfaq.org/jihad/&sa=U&ei=uJ0HVNH_FInAOJSGgcgD&ved=0CBsQFjAD&usg=AFQjCNEgZDl-HMFtc_tvqBgRz5E5OeMJDQ

Thanks Jazakallah khaeran !

Salamaleku

donroxy: Thanks Jazakallah khaeran !

you're welcome

Yes! Well explained! But the global concept of Jihad as @today is the 3rd one.
If Islam is a religion of peace, if it comes from God the creator of all people, if it also believe in the last day of judgment then why will God ask u muslims to help him out by killing christians anywhere u find us??
Can't Allah do it himself and let muslims watch quietly how he goes about it? But no..muslims must kill, dominate even Central African republic where muslims are less than 5% yet they wanna dominate others.

Sharia law is not from God the Almighty!!
Sharia law is satanic!! Deal with it!

If you look at the hadiths you will see that the word 'jihad' is used almost exclusively to refer to war (I ask you to go and read some of them). The idea of 'greater' jihad as an internal struggle emerged only around 400 years after the death of Muhammad, and was certainly not a part of the beliefs of the early Muslims.

ZKOSOSO: Yes! Well explained! But the global concept of Jihad as @today is the 3rd one.
If Islam is a religion of peace, if it comes from God the creator of all people, if it also believe in the last day of judgment then why will God ask u muslims to help him out by killing christians anywhere u find us??
Can't Allah do it himself and let muslims watch quietly how he goes about it? But no..muslims must kill, dominate even Central African republic where muslims are less than 5% yet they wanna dominate others.

Sharia law is not from God the Almighty!!
Sharia law is satanic!! Deal with it!

clearly u ddnt understand. The only fight muslims are instructed to do is defensive and not offensive. Because many muslims go out of what Allah commands doesn't mean that's what jihad is. And as for those who fight offensive, Allah loves not the transgressors and they are among inmates of hell.
Again
Allah didn't nt point only point to one religion as u ve stated above.
I hope u grasp the knowledge am trying to pass

@op
How do you explain these verses:
8:16, 4:89, 9:29, 9:14 and 9:5 in the Koran?

turnstoner: @op
How do you explain these verses:
8:16, 4:89, 9:29, 9:14 and 9:5 in the Koran?

as for 4:89. Allah didn't command muslims to just go directly in to fighting the un believers. It clearly directs them to be defensive since the unbelievers were offensive (they desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved so that u might be all alike.......) The fighting is instructed only with a cause. And I state again that the fighting is offensive.

turnstoner: @op
How do you explain these verses:
8:16, 4:89, 9:29, 9:14 and 9:5 in the Koran?

as for 9:29. The quran clearly didn't say kill or shed blood or slaughter. "Fight". And this fight is considered as da'awah (preaching) or anything that could bring them to islam.

Its as simple as this. You're told to fight evil. It doesn't mean you should kill, it means u should avoid evil do everything u can to stay away from the evil

turnstoner: @op
How do you explain these verses:
8:16, 4:89, 9:29, 9:14 and 9:5 in the Koran?

and as for 9:14 if u read 9:13 and uve read all my right up, u wouldn't bring it up. Cos d previous Verse 9:13 clearly shows that the unbelievers were offensive (what! Will you fight not a people who broke their oaths and aimed at the expulsion of the apostle and they attacked you FIRST........)

9:14 is only telling muslims to be defensive

turnstoner: @op
How do you explain these verses:
8:16, 4:89, 9:29, 9:14 and 9:5 in the Koran?

9:5 (..............and LIE IN WAIT for them in every ambush...........)

MuhdG: as for 9:29. The quran clearly didn't say kill or shed blood or slaughter. "Fight". And this fight is considered as da'awah (preaching) or anything that could bring them to islam.

Its as simple as this. You're told to fight evil. It doesn't mean you should kill, it means u should avoid evil do everything u can to stay away from the evil

You are lying here and you know it 9:30 says 'allah's curse be upon christian and jews' why would you be cursing the same people you are preaching to

Pastorkun does allah cause d christia
Pls read dat passage very well be4 any false utterance
9.30. And those Jews (who came to you) say
(as did some Jews who lived before): "Ezra
(‘Uzayr) is God's son"; and (as a general
assertion) the Christians say: "The Messiah is
God's son. " Such are merely their verbal
assertions in imitation of the utterances of
some unbelievers who preceded them. May
God destroy them! How can they be turned
away from the truth and make such
assertion
Discussion
The verse is talkin abt some jews who use t0 say uzayr/Ezrah is Gods son like the christian
use t0 say. That jesus is Gods son. S0 is nt talkin abt christia
Pls click dis lin
k t0 understand wh0 Ezrah is

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uzair

boykas: Pastorkun does allah cause d christia
Pls read dat passage very well be4 any false utterance
9.30. And those Jews (who came to you) say
(as did some Jews who lived before): "Ezra
(‘Uzayr) is God's son"; and (as a general
assertion) the Christians say: "The Messiah is
God's son. " Such are merely their verbal
assertions in imitation of the utterances of
some unbelievers who preceded them. May
God destroy them! How can they be turned
away from the truth and make such
assertion
Discussion
The verse is talkin abt some jews who use t0 say uzayr/Ezrah is Gods son like the christian
use t0 say. That jesus is Gods son. S0 is nt talkin abt christia
Pls click dis lin
k t0 understand wh0 Ezrah is

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uzair

Stop trying to twist your quoran, Christians and Jews were clearly cursed in verse 30 after instruction was given to fight them in verse 29 and this is part of islamic teachings that inspires the islamic terrorism we have today. Meanwhile I would like to see how you twist the verse below:


Qur’an 5:51—O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other.

PastorKun:

Stop trying to twist your quoran, Christians and Jews were clearly cursed in verse 30 after instruction was given to fight them in verse 29 and this is part of islamic teachings that inspires the islamic terrorism we have today. Meanwhile I would like to see how you twist the verse below:


Qur’an 5:51—O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each ther.

0ga am nt tryin t0 twist ur question and don't n0 where u get ur 0wn translation. Bt its similarr t0 w0t I have here

Q5.51. O you who believe! Take not the Jews and
Christians for friends and allies (in their Judaism and
Christianity, and against the believers). Some among
them are friends and allies to some others. Whoever
among you takes them for friends and allies (in their
Judaism and Christianity and against the believers)
will eventually become one of them (and be counted
among them in the Hereafter). Surely God does not
guide such wrongdoers.

Discussion

The christianity in0ur 0wn quran that r against and d jews that r judaism
Are u d christian against islam. of course no

Pls find the right translations 0r g0 t0 mquran.org

Bring in ur question andd I will ans dem for u

PastorKun:

Stop trying to twist your quoran, Christians and Jews were clearly cursed in verse 30 after instruction was given to fight them in verse 29 and this is part of islamic teachings that inspires the islamic terrorism we have today. Meanwhile I would like to see how you twist the verse below:


Qur’an 5:51—O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other.

Pls read d q9.29 for ur understanding the word "fight” d0esntt mean physical bl0w or blood shed its means da `awah meaning preaching s0 u won't be like d unbelievers wen dey speak 0f their 0wn religion against u

PastorKun:

Stop trying to twist your quoran, Christians and Jews were clearly cursed in verse 30 after instruction was given to fight them in verse 29 and this is part of islamic teachings that inspires the islamic terrorism we have today. Meanwhile I would like to see how you twist the verse below:


Qur’an 5:51—O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other.

In the first place, we would like to stress that Islam
urges all Muslims to deal kindly and justly with all
people. Muslims should have good relations with all
people. At school, at work, in your neighborhood,
etc., you should be kind and courteous to everyone.
Muslims are allowed to have non-Muslims as friends
as long as they keep their own faith and commitment
to Islam pure and strong. Allah has clearly forbidden
Muslim from fighting those who fight not their faith
or drive them out from their homes. Referring to this,
[Allah forbids you not with regard to those who
fight you not for your faith, nor drive you out of
your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with
them. For Allah loves those who are just. Allah
only forbids you with regard to those who fight
you for your faith, and drive you out of your
homes and support others in driving you out,
from turning to them for protection (or taking
them as wali). Those who seek their protection
they are indeed wrong- doers. ] (Al-Mumtahinah 60:
8-9)
North America, states the following:
The Qur'an does not say that non-Muslims cannot be
Muslims' friends, nor does it forbid Muslims to be
friendly to non-Muslims. There are many non-
Muslims who are good friends of Muslim individuals
and the Muslim community. There are also many
good Muslims who truly and sincerely observe their
faith and are very friendly to many non-Muslims at
the same time.
Islam teaches us that we should be friendly to all
people. Islam teaches us that we should deal even
with our enemies with justice and fairness. Allah says
in the Qur'an in the beginning of the same Surat Al-
Ma’dah: [O you who believe! Stand out firmly for
Allah as witnesses to fair dealings and let not the
hatred of others to you make you swerve to
wrong and depart from justice. Be just, that is
next to piety. Fear Allah, indeed Allah is well-
acquainted with all that you do. ] (Al-Ma’dah 5 :
In another place in the Qur'an, Allah Almighty says:
Allah forbids you not with regard to those who
fight you not for your faith, nor drive you out of
your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with
them. For Allah loves those who are just. Allah
only forbids you with regard to those who fight
you for your faith, and drive you out of your
homes and support others in driving you out,
from turning to them for protection (or taking
them as wali). Those who seek their protection
they are indeed wrong- doers.] (Al-Mumtahinah 60:
8-9)

boykas:

Pls read d q9.29 for ur understanding the word "fight” d0esntt mean physical bl0w or blood shed its means da `awah meaning preaching s0 u won't be like d unbelievers wen dey speak 0f their 0wn religion against u

Go and look what the tafsir Ibn Kathir says about this verse. It says that this was a command from Allah to go and attack the Roman Empire.

boykas:

In the first place, we would like to stress that Islam
urges all Muslims to deal kindly and justly with all
people. Muslims should have good relations with all
people. At school, at work, in your neighborhood,
etc., you should be kind and courteous to everyone.
Muslims are allowed to have non-Muslims as friends
as long as they keep their own faith and commitment
to Islam pure and strong. Allah has clearly forbidden
Muslim from fighting those who fight not their faith
or drive them out from their homes. Referring to this,
[Allah forbids you not with regard to those who
fight you not for your faith, nor drive you out of
your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with
them. For Allah loves those who are just. Allah
only forbids you with regard to those who fight
you for your faith, and drive you out of your
homes and support others in driving you out,
from turning to them for protection (or taking
them as wali). Those who seek their protection
they are indeed wrong- doers. ] (Al-Mumtahinah 60:
8-9)
North America, states the following:
The Qur'an does not say that non-Muslims cannot be
Muslims' friends, nor does it forbid Muslims to be
friendly to non-Muslims. There are many non-
Muslims who are good friends of Muslim individuals
and the Muslim community. There are also many
good Muslims who truly and sincerely observe their
faith and are very friendly to many non-Muslims at
the same time.
Islam teaches us that we should be friendly to all
people. Islam teaches us that we should deal even
with our enemies with justice and fairness. Allah says
in the Qur'an in the beginning of the same Surat Al-
Ma’dah: [O you who believe! Stand out firmly for
Allah as witnesses to fair dealings and let not the
hatred of others to you make you swerve to
wrong and depart from justice. Be just, that is
next to piety. Fear Allah, indeed Allah is well-
acquainted with all that you do. ] (Al-Ma’dah 5 :
In another place in the Qur'an, Allah Almighty says:
Allah forbids you not with regard to those who
fight you not for your faith, nor drive you out of
your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with
them. For Allah loves those who are just. Allah
only forbids you with regard to those who fight
you for your faith, and drive you out of your
homes and support others in driving you out,
from turning to them for protection (or taking
them as wali). Those who seek their protection
they are indeed wrong- doers.] (Al-Mumtahinah 60:
8-9)

Since you have decided to introduce Taquiyya to this discussion I would cease to continue since it's obvious to me that you just want to defend a position cause you are too indoctrinated to admit that it's wrong.

boykas:

Pls read d q9.29 for ur understanding the word "fight” d0esntt mean physical bl0w or blood shed its means da `awah meaning preaching s0 u won't be like d unbelievers wen dey speak 0f their 0wn religion against u

thank you brother. I explained that to him bt he failed to understand. May Allah guide us all

PastorKun:

Since you have decided to introduce Taquiyya to this discussion I would cease to continue since it's obvious to me that you just want to defend a position cause you are too indoctrinated to admit that it's wrong.

you shouldn't blame him for trying to defend d truth. The question goes to you, would you defend ur bible

MuhdG: you shouldn't blame him for trying to defend d truth. The question goes to you, would you defend ur bible

Defend the "truth" by telling lies he should go and defend that truth to ISIS and boko haram and let's see if he leaves with his head intact. Fact remains that islamic terrorists justify their actions from teachings in your holy books and it is them you need to "teach" the truth and not us that you want to deceive into believing your quoran is not to blame. If I were you I would do some soul searching and question if the writings are truly from God instead of trying to twist it to make it look acceptable to right thinking people. Why should a religion that claims to be from God be birthed in violence, spread with violence and sustained with violence. This really beats my imagination.

PastorKun:

Defend the "truth" by telling lies he should go and defend that truth to ISIS and boko haram and let's see if he leaves with his head intact. Fact remains that islamic terrorists justify their actions from teachings in your holy books and it is them you need to "teach" the truth and not us that you want to deceive into believing your quoran is not to blame. If I were you I would do some soul searching and question if the writings are truly from God instead of trying to twist it to make it look acceptable to right thinking people. Why should a religion that claims to be from God be birthed in violence, spread with violence and sustained with violence. This really beats my imagination.

I asked u if u could defend ur bible. Ur answer should have been yes or no. But the fact that uve brought this up only shows that you are either scared of defending the bible cox u don't understand its concept, or u don't believe in the Facts

MuhdG: I asked u if u could defend ur bible. Ur answer should have been yes or no. But the fact that uve brought this up only shows that you are either scared of defending the bible cox u don't understand its concept, or u don't believe in the Facts

This is not a thread about the bible or Christian doctrines, it's talking about Jihad and it's Islamic meaning Are you so ashamed to discuss your quoran that you want to derail the thread and turn it into bible debate Or is it because your quoran was plagiarised from the obsolete parts of the bible that you are bringing the bible into this discussion?

PastorKun:

This is not a thread about the bible or Christian doctrines, it's talking about Jihad and it's Islamic meaning Are you so ashamed to discuss your quoran that you want to derail the thread and turn it into bible debate Or is it because your quoran was plagiarised from the obsolete parts of the bible that you are bringing the bible into this discussion?

fair enough. This isn't a debate. Now am asking you a question.
Would you like to have a debate with me. Where I point out the flaws in ur bible and u defend them?

MuhdG: as for 4:89. Allah didn't command muslims to just go directly in to fighting the un believers. It clearly directs them to be defensive since the unbelievers were offensive (they desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved so that u might be all alike.......) The fighting is instructed only with a cause. And I state again that the fighting is offensive.

which kind of god will ask you to defend yourself? On many occasion God protect the children of isreal in the bible.let me ask you a question. Between muhammad and the arab pagan, who start the war?

MuhdG: fair enough. This isn't a debate. Now am asking you a question.
Would you like to have a debate with me. Where I point out the flaws in ur bible and u defend them?

It's not in my place to defend the bible and unlike a lot of my Christian brethen, i would be the first to admit that there are perceived flaws in the bible however this does not take away from the glorious gospel of our lord Jesus Christ on whose teachings and way of life i base my faith.

MuhdG: fair enough. This isn't a debate. Now am asking you a question.
Would you like to have a debate with me. Where I point out the flaws in ur bible and u defend them?

if there is flaw in the bible, we will be the first to point it out,we are not like you guys that will do anytin to protect lies,with all the flaw in the quran, do you still believe God write the quran himself and send it to muhammad? I think the book of isaiah6 was talkin about you guys.

There are three things you need to know in the bible.
1. The direct word of God.
2.the holy spirit inspire word.
3. The opinion of men, this is were you will find little contradiction,as we all know man is not perfect.

But muslims believe the quran was sent down to earth by God himself, it suppose to be 100% accurate, but there are error in it.which question if Allah and Yaweh are the same God.

malvisguy212: if there is flaw in the bible, we will be the first to point it out,we are not like you guys that will do anytin to protect lies,with all the flaw in the quran, do you still believe God write the quran himself and send it to muhammad? I think the book of isaiah6 was talkin about you guys.

There are three things you need to know in the bible.

1. The direct word of God.
2.the holy spirit inspire word.
3. The opinion of men, this is were you will find little contradiction,as we all know man is not perfect.

But muslims believe the quran was sent down to earth by God himself, it suppose to be 100% accurate, but there are error in it.which question if Allah and Yaweh are the same God.

I agree 100% with the bolded. Christians don't claim the bible was written or dictated by God, we are honest enough to admit the human angle to it which may account for the perceived inconsistencies in it.

PastorKun:

It's not in my place to defend the bible and unlike a lot of my Christian brethen, i would be the first to admit that there are perceived flaws in the bible however this does not take away from the glorious gospel of our lord Jesus Christ on whose teachings and way of life i base my faith.

Hmm come to think of it.
Now that u have accepted that there are flaws in the bible. Then I ask you, is the bible the book of God or was it sent by God

malvisguy212: if there is flaw in the bible, we will be the first to point it out,we are not like you guys that will do anytin to protect lies,with all the flaw in the quran, do you still believe God write the quran himself and send it to muhammad? I think the book of isaiah6 was talkin about you guys.

There are three things you need to know in the bible.
1. The direct word of God.
2.the holy spirit inspire word.
3. The opinion of men, this is were you will find little contradiction,as we all know man is not perfect.

But muslims believe the quran was sent down to earth by God himself, it suppose to be 100% accurate, but there are error in it.which question if Allah and Yaweh are the same God.

I will get to you soon