omar22:

Volkswage took over Skoda and Seat and continue to run those firms and supplied parts and engines and modified designs

MadCow1:


Toyota, Nissans, KIA's and co are indeed in the american market.. Not all their ranges and even the ones that do are built to spec for the American market. Thats why a Sienna brought in from Yankee and one brought in from Asia are different in spec.

America would not allow cars that dont have a certain level of quality and safety rating into their market.

londoner:


Ok, but you kind of presented it as if you wont see those brands in Europe or the US?

lomomike:

Lexus, Honda, Toyota, Acura, Infiniti, Hyundai, they are Japanese and Korean brand, they don't come cheap depending on the model, trim level and option installed. They are well built they are more reliable and durable than most European and American brand. They don't cut corners during production Lexus for one is produced in Tahara plant which is the most robotized and most computerized manufacturing plant in the world today, They even sell much more units than the over glorified European marques. Why are they durable, reliable and sell more?
Pls let's not bring in racism or other form of sentiments into this highly interesting topic.

Thanks.

Racism?!

Mee234:
Just as Acura, Honda and Ford can have the capacity to do design but don't! You posting picture of similar products from different manufacturer does mean each don't have it own concept. Ketocolnazone have more than one manufacturer producing it.
NB
Innoson could send specification to those Chinese companies like others are doing.

omar22:


Volkswagen is the parent company of Audi

BMW owns the Mini

Open, Vauxhaull and Chevy are all part of the GM group

lomomike:

Lexus, Honda, Toyota, Acura, Infiniti, Hyundai, they are Japanese and Korean brand, they don't come cheap depending on the model, trim level and option installed. They are well built they are more reliable and durable than most European and American brand. They don't cut corners during production Lexus for one is produced in Tahara plant which is the most robotized and most computerized manufacturing plant in the world today, They even sell much more units than the over glorified European marques. Why are they durable, reliable and sell more?
Pls let's not bring in racism or other form of sentiments into this highly interesting topic.

Thanks.

mickyarams:

The polish Polonez has got Fiat engine in them and the poles are proud of it. Mazda 2 and 3 have got ford engines in them and does not affect its Japanese heritage in anyway. The Indian Tata had humble beginnings like innosson and today they own Jaguar Landrover in England.
Innosson might be assembling different vehicle components here but we should celebrate the thousands of jobs that will create instead of going on how it's not 100% Nigerian.

AlfaSeltzer:

Now, you are confusing yourself. Firstly, Acura is a brand of Honda. Secondly, Honda and Ford do design their own cars.
Thirdly, Innoson does not yet have the capability to design their own car for mass production. They make acquire the know-how in the future, but currently, they are just assembling GAC cars for West African market.

Mee234:
Parent company doesn't mean the same brand and Ford and Honda have cars that are similar. So similar that you need the see the name tag be be sure. My question is, "how do you know that Innoson does not have the capacity to design for mass production"? If Ford with her capacity to design still produce similar cars with another brand, why is the similarity between GAC and Innoson a problem. If Innoson is assembling for GAC in west African, the name will not be IVM. Going by ur logic, NASSAN should be assembling "Hummar Bus" for Toyata because both buses are the same different only in brand name.

MadCow1:


Have you followed Innosons business model from way before they started assembling cars?! That is from their days of assembling cars till now.

tomakint: This is a very cheering news, Innoson vehicles (be it trucks, buses, jeeps) have come to stay, in no short distance this proud Son of Africa will be recognised worldwide as an innovator with a class!

Mee234:
I am not saying Innoson wasn't assembling cars in the past. In fact, he started with motorcycle. Now he name his vehicle IVM, that makes the thing his own. If not, somebody would be suing him now.

tomakint: This is a very cheering news, Innoson vehicles (be it trucks, buses, jeeps) have come to stay, in no short distance this proud Son of Africa will be recognised worldwide as an innovator with a class!

AlfaSeltzer:

Why would somebody sue him?
Do you sue your licenced distributors?

AlfaSeltzer: Do you know that toyota and kia design their own cars?
Do you know that toyota and kia parts are not produced in china?
Do you know that toyota and kia don't just stamp their badges on someone else's cars?

Don't compare ingenuity and mediocrity.

AlfaSeltzer: Attaching your badge on another man's car does not mean you made it.

idoncome:
You again!!! still attacking ivm. i say dis because u dnt waste time to make negative comments on any thread dat carry innoson company as headline. DEM send u or dey PAY u for d job ?? wat is ur interest cos dis is no longer a personal opinion tin. Happy hating

2n2k: I actually thought that Alfascletzer photoshopped the pictures but I just google the company now - GAC Zhejiang Gonow Auto Co. and behold, G5 is 100% that Chinese company's product even the same name.

But why should innoson claim what he is not? Being called a vehicle assembler is enough achievement. Why claim he designed and manufacture vehicles that are imported in semi-knocked down (skd) stage not even completely knocked down (ckd) parts.

Mee234:
I am not saying Innoson wasn't assembling cars in the past. In fact, he started with motorcycle. Now he name his vehicle IVM, that makes the thing his own. If not, somebody would be suing him now.

omar22:


They are not killing NOTHING!!!!!

Kia is there but in the small car, Hatch back, 5 doors, Sedan, estate, Luxury or coupe... Kia is nowhere near dominating any of those market. They might make one model that wins best small car of the year but it doesnt mean they are dominating that market. Do you know how long the "Corolla" dominated the small car industry before the Volkswagen Golf moved in?

AlfaSeltzer: Do you know that toyota and kia design their own cars?
Do you know that toyota and kia parts are not produced in china?
Do you know that toyota and kia don't just stamp their badges on someone else's cars?

Don't compare ingenuity and mediocrity.

redsun: It will be the duties all sane Nigerians to see that it excels over foreign companies. It is not just it monetary values,but ventures like that marks the true beginning of Blackman's emancipation, his coming of age to the machine and vehicular age. An age that he can create and make ways where there are no ways.

londoner:



Actually, Toyota, Nissan, KIA are quite common in the European markets. They are not in the top 10, but they are in the market and quite common. I don't know about the US, but that's because the US promotes buying US products, or what is "perceived" to be US made......lol

http://www.best-selling-cars.com/europe/2013-full-year-europe-best-selling-car-manufacturers-brands/

AlfaSeltzer:

I'm not attacking IVM. I'm just saying things as they are. Innocent knows that Nigerians are gullible people that will believe anything told to them by people in authority. That's why he got traditional rulers on his side declaring him a car maker. Tribalism is also making us wanting to believe nonsense because as Innocent is Igbo, Igbo people will like it to be true that he is a car maker.

The reality is that Innoson was a school drop out Nnewi spare parts seller that started importing chinese motorcycles. He made money from that and started branding them IVM. He upgraded to cars. I hope one day he upgrades to making his own cars, (I would be really proud) but as of today, those IVM vehicles you are seeing were conceived, designed, and fabricated in China by GAC motors, who hold the patent for the design and parts. Innocent is an assembler that has no single patent on any part of those cars. He only has copyright to the brand name IVM and INNOSON.

princefunmi:
Then I will have to say, you know nothing about the car industry.

ba7man: Alfaseltzer just revealed a Chinese clone which showed that Innoson vehicles aren't their design.

250000 cars in 6yrs time?

That's truly a lofty target.

ghananotnaija: The small voice of reason pointing out that Innoson simply assembles Chinese-made garbage is being drowned by typical idiotic Nigerian arrogance defending this company that is closer to a mechanic's workshop than a car manufacturer. Some even try to console themselves that just because Asians can produce decent car brands like Toyota or Nissan then so can Nigerians. Well, here's a newsflash: race has nothing to do with auto manufacturing! Race doesn't even exist; it's only a social construct! While a global car manufacturer, not an assembler of imported trash, may one day arise from Ghana, Nigeria will never produce one! Look at your mess-of-a-country, at your people's base mentality, and you'll realise that I'm right.

omar22:

Either way I know more than you