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Did Mourinho Kill John Obi Mikel’s Game By Changing His Role? by nigerianvenom(m): 3:46pm On Sep 12, 2014 |
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Re: Did Mourinho Kill John Obi Mikel’s Game By Changing His Role? by ammyluv2002(f): 3:50pm On Sep 12, 2014 |
I think he did 1 Like |
Re: Did Mourinho Kill John Obi Mikel’s Game By Changing His Role? by nigerianvenom(m): 3:56pm On Sep 12, 2014 |
Re: Did Mourinho Kill John Obi Mikel’s Game By Changing His Role? by edi287: 6:17pm On Sep 12, 2014 |
Ancelotti did the same with pirlo...didn't stop pirlo from turning out worldclass. 4 Likes |
Re: Did Mourinho Kill John Obi Mikel’s Game By Changing His Role? by arsetalks(m): 6:27pm On Sep 12, 2014 |
Thanks for reproducing our article here and referencing us. Makes me feel good. 1 Like |
Re: Did Mourinho Kill John Obi Mikel’s Game By Changing His Role? by Lily4star(f): 7:21pm On Sep 12, 2014 |
Everybody knows he obviously did, now instead of being a decorated and World class player, he is now a decorated flop of a player. He sacrificed his initial attacking role to Mourinho and Chelsea. Chelsea's gain, Mikels loss |
Re: Did Mourinho Kill John Obi Mikel’s Game By Changing His Role? by nigerianvenom(m): 7:59pm On Sep 12, 2014 |
arsetalks: Thanks for reproducing our article here and referencing us. Makes me feel good. ur article? pls tell me more cos i might be ignorant.tanx |
Re: Did Mourinho Kill John Obi Mikel’s Game By Changing His Role? by arsetalks(m): 8:16pm On Sep 12, 2014 |
nigerianvenom:The site belongs to me. 1 Like |
Re: Did Mourinho Kill John Obi Mikel’s Game By Changing His Role? by nigerianvenom(m): 9:28pm On Sep 12, 2014 |
arsetalks: The site belongs to me.Wow!nice.was directed to it through chelsea's fan site |
Re: Did Mourinho Kill John Obi Mikel’s Game By Changing His Role? by arsetalks(m): 9:52pm On Sep 12, 2014 |
arsetalks: The site belongs to me.Chelseanews.com abi? 1 Like |
Re: Did Mourinho Kill John Obi Mikel’s Game By Changing His Role? by arsetalks(m): 9:56pm On Sep 12, 2014 |
nigerianvenom:Chelseanews.com abi? |
Re: Did Mourinho Kill John Obi Mikel’s Game By Changing His Role? by nifton(m): 10:53pm On Sep 12, 2014 |
Mourinho u don kill mikelis obelis,oya chop am o. |
Re: Did Mourinho Kill John Obi Mikel’s Game By Changing His Role? by Arsenalholic(m): 12:37am On Sep 13, 2014 |
No? Did you watch Mr. Obi strut his stuff at the WYC in 2005. He glided through the midfield with purpose and grace. As of then he was blessed with a quick brain, fair technicality and attack-mindedness that made you purr. He could dribble(I remembered a particular scene in the semis against morroco, when the lad went past thr33 players with superb movement), pass as at when due, he could even deliver good balls from set-pieces. He went to Chelsea and the whole story changed. I can't categorically recollect the number of REd/Yellow cards he picked up in his first season at Chelsea. Mou killed his attacking instincts badly. Today what do we have? A Mikel who strolls around the pitch(like he's carrying a heavy calabash of water on his head), can make accurate passes, can't shoot, can't even deliver those beautiful crosses from set-pieces. All of his flaws are especially highlighted when he dorns the National colours. Does he feel he is bigger than Nigeria? That looks like the case. Mikel had a beautiful start as an attacking midfielder, but his move to Chelsea under the tutorship of the ever pragmatic Mou proved to be a wrong decision. I still maintain my stand, that had Mr. Obi opted to play for Man. U, he'd have been far better off than he is today- at least in an attacking sense. 3 Likes |
Re: Did Mourinho Kill John Obi Mikel’s Game By Changing His Role? by Iamzuna(m): 7:17am On Sep 13, 2014 |
Tis not an excuse. Yaya Toure plays in defense and does well 2 Likes |
Re: Did Mourinho Kill John Obi Mikel’s Game By Changing His Role? by M4gunners: 10:01am On Sep 13, 2014 |
Is this a quastion? Everybody who knows Mikel b4 weill not have to weast time b4 answering this quastion, yes he did and he is still killing him by keeping he 90 in the bench. |
Re: Did Mourinho Kill John Obi Mikel’s Game By Changing His Role? by incredibleone: 10:49am On Sep 13, 2014 |
When fit,thiago plays dm for bayern!!! Xo what excuse does mikel have?.......if u av any ball sense when u watched d U-20 cup,mikel was slow even then,tho good.......lampard is the best amf of his generation statistically!! What should mou do? Pirlo is also slow,but he improved........u guys ar trying to cover up for mikel's laziness nd lack of improvement by blaming mou......mou also killed haruna,chrisantus and rabiu,ryt? Mikel is over age,plain truth!! 1 Like |
Re: Did Mourinho Kill John Obi Mikel’s Game By Changing His Role? by hensben(m): 11:10am On Sep 13, 2014 |
Arsenalholic: No? Did you watch Mr. Obi strut his stuff at the WYC in 2005. He glided through the midfield with purpose and grace.@bolded, like the way man utd make manucho, djemba djemba, quinton fortune, miram diouf and pogba(all african) world class right? the truth is that mikel made a right decision to sign for chelsea, SAF doesnt give africans chance to develope, he prefer to use cleverly(a UK average player) cos he uses it to get help from referee and english FA and it worked for him unlike chelsea who have good relationship with africa players over the years....fyi, mikel was not an established player when chelsea signed him so was the fuse 3 Likes |
Re: Did Mourinho Kill John Obi Mikel’s Game By Changing His Role? by nigerianvenom(m): 11:35am On Sep 13, 2014 |
arsetalks: Chelseanews.com abi? yea,i booked marked it and visit it always.do u own it? |
Re: Did Mourinho Kill John Obi Mikel’s Game By Changing His Role? by nigerianvenom(m): 11:40am On Sep 13, 2014 |
hensben: @bolded, like the way man utd make manucho, djemba djemba, quinton fortune, miram diouf and pogba(all african) world class right? the truth is that mikel made a right decision to sign for chelsea, SAF doesnt give africans chance to develope, he prefer to use cleverly(a UK average player) cos he uses it to get help from referee and english FA and it worked for him unlike chelsea who have good relationship with africa players over the years....fyi, mikel was not an established player when chelsea signed him so was the fuse u hit the right spot.mikel would have been an expired product if he had signed for man u.SLF doesnt like african players,manucho really comes to mind |
Re: Did Mourinho Kill John Obi Mikel’s Game By Changing His Role? by Arsenalholic(m): 12:00pm On Sep 13, 2014 |
hensben: @bolded, like the way man utd make manucho, djemba djemba, quinton fortune, miram diouf and pogba(all african) world class right? the truth is that mikel made a right decision to sign for chelsea, SAF doesnt give africans chance to develope, he prefer to use cleverly(a UK average player) cos he uses it to get help from referee and english FA and it worked for him unlike chelsea who have good relationship with africa players over the years....fyi, mikel was not an established player when chelsea signed him so was the fuseI see where you are coming from. But i want to refer to the very later part of your comment. No one said Mikel was an established player. Even Messi with all his mesmeric displays in that tourney wasn't an established player as of then. But then, try to compare Mikel's stat at Lyn Oslo(when he was supposedly raw) and his stat at Chelsea(the first season) and see the difference. Mikel wasn't established, agreed! But he needed to make the right choice to enhance his development. What we're saying now is, going to Chelsea was the wrong decision. As Mou hampered his progress rather than develop him. 2 Likes |
Re: Did Mourinho Kill John Obi Mikel’s Game By Changing His Role? by hensben(m): 12:01pm On Sep 13, 2014 |
incredibleone: When fit,thiago plays dm for bayern!!! Xo what excuse does mikel have?.......if u av any ball sense when u watched d U-20 cup,mikel was slow even then,tho good.......lampard is the best amf of his generation statistically!! What should mou do? Pirlo is also slow,but he improved........u guys ar trying to cover up for mikel's laziness nd lack of improvement by blaming mou......mou also killed haruna,chrisantus and rabiu,ryt? Mikel is over age,plain truth!! |
Re: Did Mourinho Kill John Obi Mikel’s Game By Changing His Role? by hensben(m): 12:07pm On Sep 13, 2014 |
incredibleone: When fit,thiago plays dm for bayern!!! Xo what excuse does mikel have?.......if u av any ball sense when u watched d U-20 cup,mikel was slow even then,tho good.......lampard is the best amf of his generation statistically!! What should mou do? Pirlo is also slow,but he improved........u guys ar trying to cover up for mikel's laziness nd lack of improvement by blaming mou......mou also killed haruna,chrisantus and rabiu,ryt? Mikel is over age,plain truth!!tell him, who nor know say naija dey use over age at youth level, mikel was lucky to be signed, he had good agent(john shittu)..people talk as if mikel was already at lampard level when he signed for chelsea therefore, mou killed his game, mikel was not an established player when h signed for chelsea, he only shone at under 20 level which is normal for any player at that football stage.Even, white people are now aware that africans most especially nigerians cheat at that football stage.mikel should b grateful he chose chelsea over man utd if not he would have been forgotten by now like manucho, djemba djemba, miram diouf, quinton fortune, et al, SAF doesnt give africans chance to prove themselves at man utd, he rather play cleverly, welbeck an average player cos they are uk players which was an advantage for him over his years at man utd(i.e, he got more advantage from referee and english FA). |
Re: Did Mourinho Kill John Obi Mikel’s Game By Changing His Role? by hensben(m): 12:27pm On Sep 13, 2014 |
Arsenalholic: I see where you are coming from.bro you re wrong, epl is not norwegian league, lyn oslo is not chelsea, when mikel arrived chelsea they were having makelele, essien, ballack, lampard, geremy all were establish players so how do you expect mikel to come in and be a starter or an AMF when lampard was assisting and scoring for fun then, mou was trying to build him up to replace makelele cos he(makelele) was already at his declining stage then and also mikel has the size and physique to become world class there but what happened,mou resigned as a chelsea coach the following season. Do you know that makelele started as AMF at nantes but today he is known as one of the best DMF to ever grace the game. mikel played UCL, FAs, CARLIN CUP FINALS for chelsea and they won all so mikel is not a flop as you people feel neither he is a world class player, yes he was flop at 2014 WC same with c. ronaldo. if you play football you ought to know players have bad times on the pitch...everyday is not christmas. 1 Like |
Re: Did Mourinho Kill John Obi Mikel’s Game By Changing His Role? by Litmus: 3:29pm On Sep 13, 2014 |
Yes. Chelsea wanted him to play a huffing-puffing, chasing and holding role like that what's-his-name African player that they had before who was always being praised. It was a slavish, subservient and unadventurous role and I remember thinking, darn, i wish now that Obi had gone to Man-united. The role diminished Obi, destroying his sense of assertiveness and adventure, subsequently his skill and blossoming "magic" -for want of a better term. |
Re: Did Mourinho Kill John Obi Mikel’s Game By Changing His Role? by Arsenalholic(m): 5:05pm On Sep 13, 2014 |
hensben: bro you re wrong, epl is not norwegian league, lyn oslo is not chelsea, when mikel arrived chelsea they were having makelele, essien, ballack, lampard, geremy all were establish players so how do you expect mikel to come in and be a starter or an AMF when lampard was assisting and scoring for fun then, mou was trying to build him up to replace makelele cos he(makelele) was already at his declining stage then and also mikel has the size and physique to become world class there but what happened,mou resigned as a chelsea coach the following season. Do you know that makelele started as AMF at nantes but today he is known as one of the best DMF to ever grace the game. mikel played UCL, FAs, CARLIN CUP FINALS for chelsea and they won all so mikel is not a flop as you people feel neither he is a world class player, yes he was flop at 2014 WC same with c. ronaldo. if you play football you ought to know players have bad times on the pitch...everyday is not christmas.Well well well. Nice points. But i don't think my perception of him has changed. 1 Like |
Re: Did Mourinho Kill John Obi Mikel’s Game By Changing His Role? by seankay(m): 5:21pm On Sep 13, 2014 |
hensben: @bolded, like the way man utd make manucho, djemba djemba, quinton fortune, miram diouf and pogba(all african) world class right? the truth is that mikel made a right decision to sign for chelsea, SAF doesnt give africans chance to develope, he prefer to use cleverly(a UK average player) cos he uses it to get help from referee and english FA and it worked for him unlike chelsea who have good relationship with africa players over the years....fyi, mikel was not an established player when chelsea signed him so was the fuse1 million likes 1 Like |
Re: Did Mourinho Kill John Obi Mikel’s Game By Changing His Role? by seankay(m): 5:28pm On Sep 13, 2014 |
Once you tell that African player that shined at Manchester United fc then imma agree with the OP mikel made a mistake signing for Chelsea. Over the years, I've seen players forced to change their positions and that didn't hamper their progress...Yaya Toure was and attacking midfielder, he was converted to dmf, even at a point, he played as a cb.today, yaya can play cb, dmf, cmf, amf effectively, same with essien.Azpilicueta is naturally a rb, today he plays d lb as if he's been playing that position for years.Even mikel was lucky cos lass diara had to play d rb to get games and that didn't stop him from improving his game, he even played for Madrid. Mascherano plays as a cb for barca but he's regarded as one of the best dmf in the world.Mikel has no excuse, if u are good, u are good! 4 Likes |
Re: Did Mourinho Kill John Obi Mikel’s Game By Changing His Role? by arsetalks(m): 5:38pm On Sep 13, 2014 |
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Re: Did Mourinho Kill John Obi Mikel’s Game By Changing His Role? by hensben(m): 5:56pm On Sep 13, 2014 |
seankay: Once you tell that African player that shined at Manchester United fc then imma agree with the OP mikel made a mistake signing for Chelsea.1000000000000000000000000billion likes 1 Like |
Re: Did Mourinho Kill John Obi Mikel’s Game By Changing His Role? by thegoodjoehunt3(m): 6:02am On Sep 14, 2014 |
edi287: Ancelotti did the same with pirlo...didn't stop pirlo from turning out worldclass.Ancelotti plays a possessive style football, so Andrea Pirlo could blossom despite playing deep. At Chelsea, they do not play a possessive style football so the change of role is detrimental to Mike L's game. Because, Ancelotti's style was possessive, Mikel did well under him. The change of role affected Mikel, just as converting Messi to a defensive midfielder will affect Messi. |
Re: Did Mourinho Kill John Obi Mikel’s Game By Changing His Role? by thegoodjoehunt3(m): 6:10am On Sep 14, 2014 |
Iamzuna: Tis not an excuse. Yaya Toure plays in defense and does wellAs a defensive midfielder at Barcelona FC, Yaya Toure was not a respected Super Star. He was even used as a defender. At Man City, he had Gareth Barry behind him, given him the license to express himself and slowly he has developed into one of the fiercest mid fielders on the planet. Mikel does not play with a defensive midfielder behind him, so hi instinct is to defend and not leave gaps. This is because he can not tackle. Remember his red cards. He had to change his game and sit back to be tidy. It also happened to Seydou Keita, Nigeria '99 WYC best player over the likes of Ronaldinho, Forlan, Xavi, Cambiasso etc. The change of role affected him especially when he was at Barca. |
Re: Did Mourinho Kill John Obi Mikel’s Game By Changing His Role? by thegoodjoehunt3(m): 6:13am On Sep 14, 2014 |
incredibleone: When fit,thiago plays dm for bayern!!! Xo what excuse does mikel have?.......if u av any ball sense when u watched d U-20 cup,mikel was slow even then,tho good.......lampard is the best amf of his generation statistically!! What should mou do? Pirlo is also slow,but he improved........u guys ar trying to cover up for mikel's laziness nd lack of improvement by blaming mou......mou also killed haruna,chrisantus and rabiu,ryt? Mikel is over age,plain truth!!Thiago does not play defensive midfield. Most of last season, Lahm played that role. Mikel does not know how to tackle, so he can not be expressive. He reads the game and intercepts. With a defensive midfielder like Sani Kaita earlier in his career and Ogude or Onazi (when he stays back) Mikel excels. |
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