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I Wil Nt Gv U Any Bible Verse

Rather I Wil Folow The Advics Of A Saint "do Nt Give The Scripture To A Fool If Nt It Wil/Might Lead Even To His Own Distrution"

So Take My Advics Sarch In Google"the Eucharist Miracle"

where is the God in your heart when you follow saint who insults and call people fools, beside you are incapable of giving any person the scripture, God has already poured His words in our heart, the scripture is actually meant for fools like you who farms there.

I reject your foolish advice,
present a good argument and we can start from there

urheme:


where is the God in your heart when you follow saint who insults and call people fools, beside you are incapable of giving any person the scripture, God has already poured His words in our heart, the scripture is actually meant for fools like you who farms there.

I reject your foolish advice,
present a good argument and we can start from there

Was is not St. Paul that said "oh foolish Galatians?" (Gal 3:1)

Do you have God in your heart more than him?

Your are terribly ignorant, yet will not shut up and learn.

"It is by the conversion of the bread and wine into Christ's body and blood that Christ BECOMES PRESENT in this sacrament ... By the consecration the transubstantiation of the bread and wine into the Body and Blood of Christ is brought about. Under the consecrated species of bread and wine Christ himself, living and glorious, is present in a true, real and substantial manner ... In this divine sacrifice which is celebrated in the Mass, the SAME Christ who offered himself once in a bloody manner on the altar of the cross IS CONTAINED and offered in an unbloody manner."(Catholic Catechism)
The Catholic Church teaches that the Priests have the power to call Christ Jesus down from heaven and place Himself into the round wafer and wine. There to be offered as a sacrifice over and over again! The Bible clearly teaches that Jesus Christ offered Himself a sacrifice ONCE for all. And yet in the Roman Catholic Church Christ is sacrificed over and over again.
Hebrews 7:27 ...'Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins and then for the people's; for this He did ONCE, when He offered up himself.'
Hebrews 10:12 ...'But this Man, after He had offered ONE SACRIFICE FOR SINS FOR EVER, sat down on the right hand of God.'

"Because Christ himself is present in the sacrament of the altar he is to be honored with the WORSHIP of adoration ... WORSHIP of the Eucharist ... The Catholic Church has always offered and still offers to the sacrament of the Eucharist the cult of adoration."(Catholic Catechism)
Can you see how one false teaching then leads onto another one? That wafer which is offered during mass is NOTHING MORE than a wafer! A piece of food. But this is the important bit to remember. Within the Roman Catholic Church there is Pagan sun worship. You will find sun symbols all over this church, which is why the "day of the sun" (sun-day) is venerated over the true seventh day sabbath(our saturday). And what shape is this wafer that is used during mass? It is a perfect circle. Another symbol of the sun.
So what is being worshipped in mass? It's certainly not Christ Jesus. No, the leaders of the Roman Catholic Church have deceived their followers into worshipping the sun!

italo:


Was is not St. Paul that said "oh foolish Galatians?" (Gal 3:1)

Do you have God in your heart more than him?

Your are terribly ignorant, yet will not shut up and learn.

defence counsel
just because I don't agree with the doctrine of eating imaginary flesh and blood that is why you are posting your own foolishness.

we have been through this before, na today?

^^^

Jesus Christ: "Take, eat. This is my body."

Enigmaotr: "Take, eat. This is mere wafer."

Urheme: "Take, eat. This is imaginary flesh."

freeradical:
This brother you can lie ooo!!! Should I post the passages from the scriptures before you will agree that Jesus himself said it.
Luke 22:14 And when the hour was come, he sat down, and the twelve apostles with him. 15 And he said unto them, With desire I have desired to eat this passover with you before I suffer: 16 For I say unto you, I will not any more eat thereof, until it be fulfilled in the kingdom of God. 17 And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and said, Take this, and divide it among yourselves: 18 For I say unto you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, until the kingdom of God shall come.

19 And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me. 20 Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you.
John 6: 26 Jesus answered them and said, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Ye seek me, not because ye saw the miracles, but because ye did eat of the loaves, and were filled. 27 Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed. 28 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? 29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent. 30 They said therefore unto him, What sign shewest thou then, that we may see, and believe thee? what dost thou work? 31 Our fathers did eat manna in the desert; as it is written, He gave them bread from heaven to eat. 32 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Moses gave you not that bread from heaven; but my Father giveth you the true bread from heaven. 33 For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world. 34 Then said they unto him, Lord, evermore give us this bread. 35 And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst. 36 But I said unto you, That ye also have seen me, and believe not. 37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. 38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. 39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. 40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day. 41 The Jews then murmured at him, because he said, I am the bread which came down from heaven. 42 And they said, Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? how is it then that he saith, I came down from heaven? 43 Jesus therefore answered and said unto them, Murmur not among yourselves. 44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. 45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me. 46 Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father. 47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life. 48 I am that bread of life. 49 Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are dead. 50 This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die. 51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world. 52 The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, How can this man give us his flesh to eat? 53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you. 54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day. 55 For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed. 56 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him. 57 As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me. 58 This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever. 59 These things said he in the synagogue, as he taught in Capernaum. 60 Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it? 61 When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said unto them, Doth this offend you? 62 What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before? 63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. 64 But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him. 65 And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.

66 From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him. 67 Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away? 68 Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.


Those who have ears let them hear

The reference Jesus made to eating his flesh and drinking his blood is a metaphorical way of describing the person who draws on, claims, or lays hold of the reality of his atoning sacrifice by putting personal faith in him. We've constantly got to come back to that.
The Gospels capture that from beginning to end.
If you read what leads up to them in the book from which they come, again and again you'll find that the problem answers itself, because the foundation for resolving it has already been laid.
Eating His flesh and drinking His Blood does mean coming to Christ,as Jesus indicated in John 6:37,
“All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out” (John 6:37).
It means that the convert leaves behind all other hopes of salvation, and actually comes to the risen Christ. Thus, the convert partakes of the flesh and blood of Christ. The convert is united to Christ by faith.
It means that whoever receives Christ has eternal life now.Look at verse 54.
“Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life…” (John 6:54).
Now look at verse 47,
“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life” (John 6:47).
So, Jesus clearly tells us that “eating [His] flesh and [drinking His] blood”means believing on Him! It means more than believing things about Him.It means believing “on” him – trusting Him, coming to Him. The moment you come to Jesus and are united with Him, you have everlasting life!
“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life” (John 6:47).
In that moment, Christ’s Blood cleanses you from all sin. In that moment, His death on the Cross propitiates the wrath of God against your sin, and you have eternal life!

italo:
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Jesus Christ: "Take, eat. This is my body."

Enigmaotr: "Take, eat. This is mere wafer."

Urheme: "Take, eat. This is imaginary flesh."

Read John 6:47, 54 to find out what Jesus actually meant.
He wasn't in anyway talking about the wafer as in the pictures below, was he?

enigmaotr:

Read John 6:47, 54 to find out what Jesus actually meant.
He wasn't in anyway talking about the wafer as in the pictures below, was he?

Of course he wasn't talking about wafer...he was talking about his flesh...which we eat.

enigmaotr:

The reference Jesus made to eating his flesh and drinking his blood is a metaphorical way of describing the person who draws on, claims, or lays hold of the reality of his atoning sacrifice by putting personal faith in him. We've constantly got to come back to that.
The Gospels capture that from beginning to end.
If you read what leads up to them in the book from which they come, again and again you'll find that the problem answers itself, because the foundation for resolving it has already been laid.
Eating His flesh and drinking His Blood does mean coming to Christ,as Jesus indicated in John 6:37,
“All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out” (John 6:37).
It means that the convert leaves behind all other hopes of salvation, and actually comes to the risen Christ. Thus, the convert partakes of the flesh and blood of Christ. The convert is united to Christ by faith.
It means that whoever receives Christ has eternal life now.Look at verse 54.
“Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life…” (John 6:54).
Now look at verse 47,
“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life” (John 6:47).
So, Jesus clearly tells us that “eating [His] flesh and [drinking His] blood”means believing on Him! It means more than believing things about Him.It means believing “on” him – trusting Him, coming to Him. The moment you come to Jesus and are united with Him, you have everlasting life!
“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life” (John 6:47).
In that moment, Christ’s Blood cleanses you from all sin. In that moment, His death on the Cross propitiates the wrath of God against your sin, and you have eternal life!

The Last Supper proves you a liar.

it wasn't a metaphor.

He took bread, blessed, broke it and said: "This is my body."

.

italo:


The Last Supper proves you a liar.

it wasn't a metaphor.

He took bread, blessed, broke it and said: "This is my body."

" I am the bread of life: he that COMETH to me shall never hunger; and he that BELIEVETH on me shall never thirst[/quote] (John 6:35)
If it wasn't a metaphor, the above verse would've been:" I'm the bread of life, eat my flesh and you'll never go hungry; and he that drink from my blood never thirst". Your can not just take a section of a difficult Scripture in isolation. You can always count on the preceeding verses to interprete it for you.

... everyone which SEETH THE SON, AND BELIEVETH ON HIM, MAY HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE: AND I WILL RAISE HIM UP AT THE LAST DAY

(John 6:40)
He's here giving the criteria for everlasting life as He did in verse 54. SEEK and BELIEVE on Him and have everlasting life ( eat my flesh and drink my blood and have everlasting life). If we were to substitute eat my flesh and drink my blood for seek and believe, verse 40 and 54 will be the same.

Verily verily, I say unto you, He that BELIEVETH on me HATH EVERLASTING LIFE

(John 6:47)
Now like I said, Jesus when He said "eat my flesh and drink my blood" means we should "believe on Him" and you said I'm a liar! Now I will interchange these phrases and you watch as verse 47 becomes 54 and vice-versa:
"Verily verily, I say unto you, He that eateth my flest, and drinketh my blood, hath everlasting life" (John 6:47)b

Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, HATH ETERNAL LIFE…

(John 6:54).

"Whoso believeth on me, hath eternal life"
(John 6:54)b


Now you'll have to show me the difference between (John 6:47) and (John 6:54)b and (John 6:54) and (John 6:47)b, since you believe Jesus is talking about a literal flesh and blood.