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| Re: How Does The World See Africa by Tochi3(m): 10:28am On Aug 20, 2006 |
@Abike2k6 "Controversial as this may sound, Africa could possibly benefit from having a neutral outsider put it in order". In a war of survival of the fittest, no one is neutral. Actions and reactions are based upon short or long term interests or benefits. African interests has been neglected always because we assume that the so called "neutral outsider" has no interest. Like i have always said, two interests can never be acheived especially in a war of survival. Knowlegde of our black history which predates history itself - will go a long way to provide solutions to Africa´s long standing problems. We do not need an outsider to be of help for thesame problem they created and are still creating in the whole continent of Africa. There is still an unforseen war of inferior - superior, servant - master relationship between Africa and the rest of the "world". A snake will always give birth to a snake. |
| Re: How Does The World See Africa by BrownEyes4(f): 12:04pm On Aug 20, 2006 |
@Tochi So true. Has anyone read the 'Isis papers' by Dr Frances Welsing? I feel the Europeans envy the people of Africa for having such a wonderful land so much they have decided to take the land for themselves by instigating wars, producing famine and introducing diseases. They depict Africa to be a dangerous, dark formidable place yet there are planeloads of Europeans going over to invest. It is a pity a lot of Africans in Diaspora do not go back to help other Africans to see how lucky they are to have such a beautiful place worth investing in and fighting for. The leaders of Africa are in the pockets of the West and have adopted the Western motto of 'me, myself and I' forsaking the African motto of 'It takes a whole village to raise a child'. Leaders, such as Lumumba, Nkrumah,who are strong enough to resist the Western infuence are disposed of. The recolonisation of Africa is happening beneath our very noses not with the bible and the sword but with the lure of a better life outside Africa in exchange for our resources. Whilst Africans are pouring out in droves to find this better life, the Europeans are quietly moving in. |
| Re: How Does The World See Africa by Tochi3(m): 12:27am On Aug 21, 2006 |
@ Brown-Eyes, You have made a very important observation by not looking only at the surface. The people of Africa are running away from there land of abundance to go to a land not richly blessed by nature in search of "better life" and those who are remaining dies from hunger, disease and other death designed policies of the "world". Then, there begins a grandscale invasion of unimaginable limits of the "world" into the continent to disposess the people of Africa the richest in natural resources which is the land. He who controls the land controls the richest. And the most painful aspect of it is that they use African presidents - well i call them morons and criminals to achieve their devilish plots. The more "investments" flows to the continent, the more the people loose their land and hence their natural resources - the more the people become foodless, clothless, and homeless. It is as a result of how these criminal slowpoke presidents go against the interests of their own people that the "world" says that the black man´s IQ is very low, and hence that the black man is an inferior being.  |
| Re: How Does The World See Africa by Madira: 10:24am On Aug 21, 2006 |
Well said, Tochi, Brown Eyes and others. The knowledge of our history will indeed go a long way in solving several of the ills which afflict our continent. Then and only then would we be able to know ourselves as we truly are and not as others have made us out to be. As a poster rightly said, these negative images of suffering, wretched, hapless Africans constantly awaiting the bounty of the benevolent West, have a powerful subversive influence. Even Africans in the diaspora are affected by this subterfuge. And once you can control the way a person sees himself, you have him where you want him. Their depiction of us in this way is not entirely innocent. But then their intentions towards us never where. It is true that a large part of our problem is that we are too trusting and the colonial mindset which pervades our society, does not help either. This is the reason an African unwisely trusts an outsider more than his own. Looking for outside intervention is nothing short of tacit suicide. No one is that altruistic and besides heaven only helps those who help themselves. And we can help ourselves but we need to sort out our thinking and fast, unless goodness knows what will befall us then. By, the way speaking of African presidents, there are rumours of IBB saying that he wants to make Nigeria great again. May God help us. |
| Re: How Does The World See Africa by iice(f): 11:15am On Aug 21, 2006 |
Madira:Amen! |
| Re: How Does The World See Africa by trendy(f): 9:27am On Nov 22, 2006 |
they see us as the most corrupt people on earth but we are not they are  |
| Re: How Does The World See Africa by BlackMamba(m): 4:51pm On Nov 24, 2006 |
Africa is seen as a pond of ignorance sprinkled by few west-influenced elite. The ignorance prevents the people from controlling their destiny either through democracy or revolt, while the elite take advantage of the situation. |
| Re: How Does The World See Africa by Mariory(m): 2:52am On Nov 25, 2006 |
trendy: ^ ^ LMFAO. It's so funny because it's so unbelievably untrue. |
| Re: How Does The World See Africa by shango(m): 3:05am On Nov 25, 2006 |
^ The US has toppled and inititated more coups on more governments than every other country combined. When you talk about corruption America takes the cake. The difference between American and African corruption is sophistication. Just look at OBJ. A former CIA asset who has learnt very well from the West how to covertely pilfer money while appearing to be a good leader. |
| Re: How Does The World See Africa by Mariory(m): 3:25am On Nov 25, 2006 |
shango: Where is your evidence of this. There have been more documented coups in Nigeria than that accused against America. But that's both out opinions as I don't have facts to back that up right now and I'm not interesting in compiling such facts. So before we go off topic, I'll just ask you one simple question. Would you have the confidence to ask an American policeman to accept money in order to let you walk for a crime you commited (stealing for example)? Or to a customs officer at an American airport that discovers you with banned substances that requires you be detained. Suffice to say you would easily suggest the same to their Nigerian counterparts. |
| Re: How Does The World See Africa by shango(m): 3:32am On Nov 25, 2006 |
But that's both out opinions as I don't have facts to back that up right now and I'm not interesting in compiling such facts.Poor Poor child  . No Problem, well you have no proof, I have plenty.Take Latin America for instance, just one continent. http://www.zompist.com/latam.html ENJOY! almost a century and a half of coup toppling and government subversions. You obviously do not know your history And like I said, American corruption is way WAY WAY more sophisticated than any African institution. With the complexity of the society and government and institution, so goes its complexity in corruption. Heard of Tom Delay? Jack Abramoff? George fucking W Bush? |
| Re: How Does The World See Africa by nilla(f): 4:04am On Nov 25, 2006 |
@ topic, most of them think we live on trees, don't have means of modern transportation, we don't speak english, we eat once a day (if at all) , Africa is a country. . . . the list goes on. And its funny cos they have the resources to see what is going on around the world. but i guess they choose to remain ignorant |
| Re: How Does The World See Africa by iice(f): 4:10am On Nov 25, 2006 |
Ahahahahaha i get that 'How is your country Africa' alot but am over it, used to piss me off |
| Re: How Does The World See Africa by lewa(m): 5:28am On Nov 25, 2006 |
god of thunder i will agreee with you!The US has/had a hand in world distabilization. Look at the M/E. Supported Saddam against Ayatollah Khomeini, later fought Saddam, suported mujahideen against Soviet Union, later the rebels metarmorphosed into the global plague they are fighting now. Stood and supported corrupt M/E regimes against forces of progress whereas people want yhe opposite eg Egypt! In Africa nko-the list is numerous,when the going is good you be buddy and then later they discard you, when probably the government of the day loses or a new secretary of state comes aboard-Mobutu, Banda,Bokassa. So what do you expect!The so called Monroe Doctrine is just to pauperise the whole world and make other nations America's play ground.Eg Haiti, Puerto Rico!Thank God for Fidel, Evo and Hugo. They stand up to the menace. |
| Re: How Does The World See Africa by lewa(m): 5:34am On Nov 25, 2006 |
Africa's problem also lies with undue American/ European influence!Patrice Lumumba was gotten rid of cause he was socialist, same with Nkrumah, Sylvius Olympio and others that ended up with bullets in their craniums in ditches! That was the problem Africa faced in the 60's-70's. So the paucity of stable government and policies resulted in the mess the continent is now! So Africa is viewed by the bigoted biased Western media as a waste land of faminie, genocide, instability and what more. |
| Re: How Does The World See Africa by Easyy(m): 10:47am On Nov 25, 2006 |
Africa is generally seen as a land of hunger and associated with everything bad. It is not uncommon for parallels to be drawn between any bad thing and Africa. We dont help matters when we discard our own culture and way of life to be like Europeans and Americans. They see the fact that we want to be like them and we copy their culture so they cannot but conclude that our culture and way of life is undesirable. We want to dress like them, act like them, dance like them etc. Many of us even talk like their illiterates and gangsters. I do know that many of them admire our own culture and way of life but this is not openly spoken about. |
| Re: How Does The World See Africa by Mariory(m): 4:47pm On Nov 25, 2006 |
shango: Your post and link is irrelevant. I could have done a search and posted links myself. I can come up dates that go far further back than the 19th century in your links. Why must I go into basics to make you understand. It is not about type of corruption. It is about which country is more corrupt. Of course corruption exists in the west as it does everywhere. Even in exetremely religious societies that claim to be at the highest morality level known to man. Fact is kid, that for years Nigerian society has come to believe corruption is normal part of life. And majority of Nigerians have participated in it. From the simple N50 given to policemen on the streets to higher level corruption. Nigerians attitude is, if I don't do it, someone else will. Or if I don't give the police money, I could end up dead. This is not the case in the west. This is elementary. If you cannot understand this, then oh dear. |
| Re: How Does The World See Africa by shango(m): 4:25am On Nov 30, 2006 |
if you think the problems of Nigeria stem from corruption then you do not have any historical perspective on the "country" known as Nigeria. I bet if you where president you would start to fight corruption to fix the country right? Just like GW Bush thinks terrorism is something to be fought. Fact is kid, that for years Nigerian society has come to believe corruption is normal part of life. And majority of Nigerians have participated in it. From the simple N50 given to policemen on the streets to higher level corruption. Nigerians attitude is, if I don't do it, someone else will. Or if I don't give the police money, I could end up dead. This is not the case in the west. This is elementary. If you cannot understand this, then oh dear. That isnt corruption that is survival. People do not bribe police because they are corrupt they do it to survuve the next day. |
| Re: How Does The World See Africa by Ndipe(m): 8:06am On Nov 30, 2006 |
A pathetic continent, unfortunately. |
| Re: How Does The World See Africa by IBEXY(m): 6:02pm On Nov 30, 2006 |
take a look at this picture. thats how they see us really. http://www.huaren.com/UnitedNations/photo-1.htm |
| Re: How Does The World See Africa by Mariory(m): 7:37pm On Nov 30, 2006 |
shango: 1. At no point did I say that Nigeria's problems stem from corruption. Corruption is one of Nigeria's problems. 2. I don't know how you arrived at that or the relevance of the comment. 3. It's not about the public. It's not so much about the police even. It's about how bad and how "normal" corruption has become in society that the whole process feeds off itself. Kind of like a never ending corruption cycle. |
| Re: How Does The World See Africa by Drusilla(f): 8:12pm On Nov 30, 2006 |
Beautiful Thread. Smile. Since the West see's African people: as Primitive. What would be their plans for Primitive people in the 21st century? |
| Re: How Does The World See Africa by Sista(f): 9:00pm On Nov 30, 2006 |
I personally know and feel Africa is where it all started, life that is. How else do you explain Africa having the biggest everything? From it's people, resources and animals etc. However, I think white people see Africa as a place to use for their (white people) benefit because they believe that the people of Africa are backward, primitive and just plain old to dumb to realize what they have and therefore those people are only useful for exploitation, which they would never be capable or realizing is being done to them as well as their land. I think Asians and Arabs feel the same way as white people only not as harsh. |
| Re: How Does The World See Africa by Easyy(m): 8:01pm On Dec 02, 2006 |
If anyone visits Lagos, you'll see that Lagos is a jungle with big speakers facing the streets and some lunatics shouting Ibadan, Ibadan, Ile Ife etc. I have never heard such chaotic noise in my life. Why wont the world see Africa as a jungle? Tinubu should be tied to the stakes |
| Re: How Does The World See Africa by gbadex1(m): 11:14pm On Dec 02, 2006 |
@ Easyy, thank you for that statement!! God will bless you! |
| Re: How Does The World See Africa by Easyy(m): 8:49pm On Dec 11, 2006 |
Have those speakers all over Lagos been removed yet? does anyone here know? |
| Re: How Does The World See Africa by davidif: 12:45am On Jun 23, 2009 |
The world sees Africa as the richest and the most beautiful continent that is inhabited mostly by primitive people. You hit the message right on the head. Also, in addition to primitive people, could i add low IQ people. |
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