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Jonathan Is A Complete Failure! by ashson: 9:45am On Oct 28, 2014
JONATHAN IS A COMPLETE FAILURE!

JONATHAN has failed woefully in his tenures and infact everyone knows that even his supporters know that.

He has rather than maintain the peaceful Nigeria he inherited, sponsored "religious" and "ethnic" divide to continue to generate the same "Public sympathy" which brought him into office since 2010.

It is left for the APC to present candidates who can surmount the "tribal" and "religious" divide created by Jonathan.

Basically, Nigerians are not yet sophisticated in their democratic process of choosing their leaders. If the APC can present Presidential candidates that would satisfy the religious and tribal aspirations of the people they would be able to send this calamity out of Aso Rock come 2015.

As for people like us we are only concerned about "Good Governance" and "Zero tolerance to corruption" at all levels whether its a traditionalist that's at the helms of affairs or not.

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Re: Jonathan Is A Complete Failure! by ashson: 9:49am On Oct 28, 2014
Join Hands!

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Re: Jonathan Is A Complete Failure! by pacesetter939: 9:56am On Oct 28, 2014
ashson:
JONATHAN IS A COMPELTE FAILURE!

JONATHAN has failed woefully in his tenures and infact everyone knows that even his supporters know that.

He has rather than maintain the peaceful Nigeria he inherited, sponsored "religious" and "ethnic" divide to continue to generate the same "Public sympathy" which brought him into office since 2010.

It is left for the APC to present candidates who can surmount the "tribal" and "religious" divide created by Jonathan.

Basically, Nigerians are not yet sophisticated in their democratic process of choosing their leaders. If the APC can present Presidential candidates that would satisfy the religious and tribal aspirations of the people they would be able to send this calamity out of Aso Rock come
2015.

As for people like us we are only concerned about "Good Governance" and "Zero tolerance to corruption" at all levels whether its a traditionalist that's at the helms of affairs or not.

So happy to learn that Nigerians are now more ready than ever to enthrone change in this Country whose name to the international community has been regarded as CORRUPTION.
I kept wondering what else could be described as corruption, if GEJ in his words said 'stealing in not corruption.'

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Re: Jonathan Is A Complete Failure! by Orunto: 10:19am On Oct 28, 2014
Gibberish!

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Re: Jonathan Is A Complete Failure! by ashson: 10:57am On Oct 28, 2014
Orunto:
Gibberish!
Clueless

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Re: Jonathan Is A Complete Failure! by Orunto: 11:15am On Oct 28, 2014
You have E-BOLA

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Re: Jonathan Is A Complete Failure! by omenka(m): 11:21am On Oct 28, 2014
ashson:
JONATHAN IS A COMPLETE FAILURE!

JONATHAN has failed woefully in his tenures and infact everyone knows that even his supporters know that.

He has rather than maintain the peaceful Nigeria he inherited, sponsored "religious" and "ethnic" divide to continue to generate the same "Public sympathy" which brought him into office since 2010.

It is left for the APC to present candidates who can surmount the "tribal" and "religious" divide created by Jonathan.

Basically, Nigerians are not yet sophisticated in their democratic process of choosing their leaders. If the APC can present Presidential candidates that would satisfy the religious and tribal aspirations of the people they would be able to send this calamity out of Aso Rock come 2015.

As for people like us we are only concerned about "Good Governance" and "Zero tolerance to corruption" at all levels whether its a traditionalist that's at the helms of affairs or not.
And that is the most significant reason I CAN NEVER lend my support to him!

He and his followers are notorious bigots.

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Re: Jonathan Is A Complete Failure! by ashson: 7:03pm On Oct 28, 2014
omenka:
And that is the most significant reason I CAN NEVER lend my support to him!

He and his followers are notorious bigots.
Tumb up!
Re: Jonathan Is A Complete Failure! by tit(f): 7:15pm On Oct 28, 2014
omenka:
And that is the most significant reason I CAN NEVER lend my support to him!

He and his followers are notorious bigots.

we know,
boko haram can never vote for Jonathan.

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Re: Jonathan Is A Complete Failure! by ashson: 11:39am On Oct 29, 2014
tit:


we know,
boko haram can never vote for Jonathan.
Jonathan is initiating fake dialogue with boko haram, while are still killing us

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Re: Jonathan Is A Complete Failure! by ashson: 11:39am On Oct 29, 2014
tit:


we know,
boko haram can never vote for Jonathan.
Jonathan is initiating fake dialogue with boko haram, while they are still killing us
Re: Jonathan Is A Complete Failure! by ahaika23: 11:51am On Oct 29, 2014
Compare Jonathan to your father, who do you think has FAILED? If you call GEJ a Complete Failure, then who is your father?

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Re: Jonathan Is A Complete Failure! by ashson: 10:47pm On Oct 29, 2014
ahaika23:
Compare Jonathan to your father, who do you think has FAILED? If you call GEJ a Complete Failure, then who is your father?
is GEJ your father

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Re: Jonathan Is A Complete Failure! by Nobody: 11:18pm On Oct 29, 2014
ashson:

Jonathan is initiating fake dialogue with boko haram, while are still killing us

gej and his evil cohorts are actually the ones harming bh to destabilize the north, so people wont come out to vote for fear of being bombed or shot to pieces.

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Re: Jonathan Is A Complete Failure! by saintgwizard(m): 11:36pm On Oct 29, 2014
corruption/kəˈrʌpʃ(ə)n/
noun
1.dishonest or fraudulent conduct by those in power, typically involving bribery.
2.the process by which a word or expression is changed from its original state to one regarded as erroneous or debased.
3.the process of decay; putrefaction.


steal/stiːl/
verb
1.take (another person's property) without permission or legal right and without intending to return it.
2.move somewhere quietly or surreptitiously.

Stealing is not corruption.

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Re: Jonathan Is A Complete Failure! by Adindupeter: 11:39pm On Oct 29, 2014
Lol
Re: Jonathan Is A Complete Failure! by Descartes: 11:41pm On Oct 29, 2014
diluminati:


gej and his evil cohorts are actually the ones harming bh to destabilize the north, so people wont come out to vote for fear of being bombed or shot to pieces.
undecided undecided
Will you be ready to defend this poo when called upon
There are somethings that are better left untouched. embarassed angry
Re: Jonathan Is A Complete Failure! by Descartes: 11:44pm On Oct 29, 2014
saintgwizard:
corruption/kəˈrʌpʃ(ə)n/
noun
1.dishonest or fraudulent conduct by those in power, typically involving bribery.
2.the process by which a word or expression is changed from its original state to one regarded as erroneous or debased.
3.the process of decay; putrefaction.


steal/stiːl/
verb
1.take (another person's property) without permission or legal right and without intending to return it.
2.move somewhere quietly or surreptitiously.

Stealing is not corruption.
Agreed in logical context but both go in SIMILTUDE wink angry

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Re: Jonathan Is A Complete Failure! by Pataki: 11:47pm On Oct 29, 2014
This is what I have been saying on this forum since 2010.

A man who openly confessed that he himself knows he is useless as a President.

2015, my prayer is that this man would end up in jail.

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Re: Jonathan Is A Complete Failure! by Nobody: 6:13am On Oct 30, 2014
Descartes:
undecided undecided
Will you be ready to defend this poo when called upon
There are somethings that are better left untouched. embarassed angry

dont threaten me, its the truth.
Re: Jonathan Is A Complete Failure! by dlox147(m): 7:32am On Oct 30, 2014
pacesetter939:


So happy to learn that Nigerians are now more ready than ever to enthrone change in this Country whose name to the international community has been regarded as CORRUPTION.
I kept wondering what else could be described as corruption, if GEJ in his words said 'stealing in not corruption.'
please is stealing corruption
Re: Jonathan Is A Complete Failure! by Nobody: 7:41am On Oct 30, 2014
dlox147:
please is stealing corruption
A US-Africa summit last week opened with warnings about the toll corruption takes on development, sparking discussion about the extent of the problem in Africa and how it is defined. That’s an issue which Nigeria’s president has also been debating of late.

On May 5, Goodluck Jonathan responded to allegations that he is not doing enough to curb corruption among his ministers by claiming that most of what is referred to as corruption is not really that at all.

“Over 70% of what are called corruption (cases), even by EFCC (Economic and Financial Crimes Commission) and other anti-corruption agencies, is not corruption, but common stealing,” the president told national television, saying the corruption claims appeared “politically motivated”.

Barely two weeks later, Ekpo Nta, the chairman of the Independent Corrupt Practices Commission (ICPC), one of Nigeria’s anti-corruption agencies, told an audience in Abuja that “stealing is erroneously reported as corruption” even by “educated” Nigerians.

So was the president right to dismiss most corruption claims as being nothing of the sort? Africa Check decided to look at the definitions.
Is corruption simply stealing?

Put simply, while stealing can be defined as taking a person or organisation’s rightful property without their permission, corruption is not one but a whole range of misdeeds, the common factor in which is the abuse of a person’s office for personal gain.

As this attempt to define corruption makes clear, it can range from the petty corruption of junior officials – bribe-taking by police officers on the street corner for example – through high-level embezzlement and theft of public funds to the payment or receipt of bribes made to affect office-holders’ decisions in office.

The key difference with “common stealing” is that the people who break into a house and steal, have no authority over the house or property. And people who carry out a corrupt act do have that trust as a public office holder of some sort and abuse it for their own gain.

And it is this abuse of public trust that explains why civil society groups and others see corruption as a more serious crime than typical “common stealing”.
How is corruption defined in Nigerian law?

So is the president right in terms of law? The answer is no. Under Nigeria’s Corrupt Practices and Other Related Offences Act of 2000, the term corruption does indeed apply to crimes such as the theft or embezzlement of public funds, but also to bribery, fraud and “other related offences”.

And in all these cases, it is corruption only if the person in question has carried out the offence through the office they hold.

Section 382 of the Nigerian Criminal Code, by contrast, provides a much simpler description of theft, unrelated to the role a person take in life. A thief is simply “a person who fraudulently takes … or fraudulently converts to his own use or to the use of any other person anything capable of being stole”.
Is the pattern of corruption changing?

So the president is clearly wrong to claim that the theft of public funds by those in public office is simple theft, and not corruption.

But could he be right to say that the pattern of corruption is changing and that today “over 70%” of cases now relate to theft of public funds, not bribery and other such offences.

Here, there does seem to be some evidence of a trend. Speaking at the 50th anniversary of his old school, Ilesa Grammar School, Osun State, the 2005-2010 chairman of the ICPC, Emmanuel Olayinka Ayoola, said that the nature of corruption it uncovered had changed in recent years.

“The commonest form of corruption in Nigeria used to be bribery but in recent years, this has been overtaken in level of prevalence by embezzlement and theft from public funds,” he said, though without providing figures.

Africa Check this week asked the EFCC to say what percentage of corruption cases they have investigated since 2010 would fall under the broad category of theft and embezzlement of public funds, and what would fall under bribery and other offences.

If or when they reply we will update this report.
Is the level of corruption changing?

It is difficult to say. Many public commentators say that it is.

However Nigeria’s ranking in anti-corruption group Transparency International’s Corruption Perceptions Index – which lists countries based on how corrupt their public sector is perceived to be – is little changed from when Jonathan took over as president in 2010.

In 2013 Nigeria ranked 144 out of 177 countries in the index. In 2011, Nigeria ranked 143.
Conclusion – Corruption is more than ‘common stealing’

The way officials talk about crime matters. And President Jonathan’s claim earlier this year that more than 70 percent of corruption cases today relate to nothing more than “common stealing” appears to be an attempt to downplay what remains a massive problem in Nigeria.

It is also wrong in law. The theft of public funds through the abuse of an official’s office is different from “common stealing” because of the abuse of trust it entails.

And it is because it reduces the funds available for public spending, distorts the decisions made by office holders and undermines public trust, that corruption has such a negative effect on Nigeria’s development as numerous studies have shown.

In the end, whether the pattern of corruption is changing – from bribery to theft of public funds – matters less than that the overall level of corruption appears not to have changed at all.

Edited by Eleanor Whitehead and Peter Cunliffe-Jones

This report was done by our partner, Africa Check, a non-partisan organisation which promotes accuracy in public debate and the media.We have its permission to republish. Follow the organisation on Twitter at @AfricaCheck or visit its website at www.africacheck.org

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Re: Jonathan Is A Complete Failure! by Imoy(m): 7:54am On Oct 30, 2014
diluminati:


gej and his evil cohorts are actually the ones harming bh to destabilize the north, so people wont come out to vote for fear of being bombed or shot to pieces.

It is arming and not harming in this ur context.

U be yoruba?
Re: Jonathan Is A Complete Failure! by legendsilver(m): 8:00am On Oct 30, 2014
ashson:
JONATHAN IS A COMPLETE FAILURE!

JONATHAN has failed woefully in his tenures and infact everyone knows that even his supporters know that.

He has rather than maintain the peaceful Nigeria he inherited, sponsored "religious" and "ethnic" divide to continue to generate the same "Public sympathy" which brought him into office since 2010.

It is left for the APC to present candidates who can surmount the "tribal" and "religious" divide created by Jonathan.

Basically, Nigerians are not yet sophisticated in their democratic process of choosing their leaders. If the APC can present Presidential candidates that would satisfy the religious and tribal aspirations of the people they would be able to send this calamity out of Aso Rock come 2015.

As for people like us we are only concerned about "Good Governance" and "Zero tolerance to corruption" at all levels whether its a traditionalist that's at the helms of affairs or not.
Re: Jonathan Is A Complete Failure! by lookmangiw(m): 8:00am On Oct 30, 2014
ahaika23:
Compare Jonathan to your father, who do you think has FAILED? If you call GEJ a Complete Failure, then who is your father?
how much did they buy your conscience, i-diot.
Re: Jonathan Is A Complete Failure! by ahaika23: 8:03am On Oct 30, 2014
lookmangiw:
how much did they buy your conscience, i-diot.
your family was sacrificed for my conscience.

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Re: Jonathan Is A Complete Failure! by lookmangiw(m): 8:05am On Oct 30, 2014
ahaika23:
your family was sacrificed for my conscience.
I see E-goat
Re: Jonathan Is A Complete Failure! by dlox147(m): 8:11am On Oct 30, 2014
[quote author=harde2lah [/quote] It is obvious the writer is trying hard to prove that corruption is same as stealing and yet admitting that its different..bro IS CORRUPTION STEALING?
Re: Jonathan Is A Complete Failure! by vicadex07(m): 8:20am On Oct 30, 2014
saintgwizard:
corruption/kəˈrʌpʃ(ə)n/
noun
1.dishonest or fraudulent conduct by those in power, typically involving bribery.
2.the process by which a word or expression is changed from its original state to one regarded as erroneous or debased.
3.the process of decay; putrefaction.


steal/stiːl/
verb
1.take (another person's property) without permission or legal right and without intending to return it.
2.move somewhere quietly or surreptitiously.

Stealing is not corruption.

You'd do anything to support obvious stupidity. From your definition above, stealing is even worse than corruption but your otueke master dismissed it as "ordinary". Ordinary 20billion dollars right? You'll should be hanged

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Re: Jonathan Is A Complete Failure! by Nobody: 9:10am On Oct 30, 2014
Imoy:


It is arming and not harming in this ur context.

U be yoruba?

so far you understood me you idiott!

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Re: Jonathan Is A Complete Failure! by Nobody: 9:13am On Oct 30, 2014
[quote author=dlox147 post=27571387][/quote]
YES!!!
Here is an excerpt:

Fela Anikulapo Kuti vocalized this clear point, regarding all these fancy terminologies as pretty tags for the same armed robbery offence. His words, ‘authority stealing pass armed robbery.’ He continues, ‘if gun steals eighty thousand naira, pen steals two billion naira.’
If you are still confused, let’s define and study these ‘complex’ words with help from the free dictionary online:

Stealing- This is the act of taking someone’s property without obtaining legal permission.

Government corruption - lacking in integrity, debased, putrid, tainted government officials who steal from the public-people’s coffer and betray the people’s trust. This includes giving or taking illegal payments in exchange for favors or influence. It also includes denying people justice.

Stealing, corruption, embezzlement, maladministration are infringements and strong violations of trust.
When government officials are corrupt, they have robbed the people of their due allotment. ‘They have stolen our trust.’ These officials have stolen, not from the national cake, but from the pauper’s loaf. They have dipped their hands into the pocket of every last Nigerian at home and abroad and taken from the pennies contained to enrich themselves. This is done without our consent and legal permission, thus making it stealing.
Hope you understand now

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Re: Jonathan Is A Complete Failure! by brownlord: 9:17am On Oct 30, 2014
diluminati:


gej and his evil cohorts are actually the ones harming bh to destabilize the north, so people wont come out to vote for fear of being bombed or shot to pieces.

Can you help your father's enemy to burn down your family house? if you can then i understand the reason Jonathan is using Northerners to destabilize the north and the Northern elders and all of the northerners in the force know about this and decided to keep mute.

My friend, try not to comment in the early hours of the day to allow your brain to wake up from hibernation

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