1. "Atheism isn't a belief, but the lack of a belief."

This is what I call the "single definition" of atheism. It is the
cornerstone of most atheistic defenses. Atheists like to use this definition
because they feel that it protects them from certain criticisms from
Christians and other theists. For example, if atheism is a lack of a belief,
then atheists can't be criticized for believing anything. This simple idea
is a powerful weapon for atheists on message boards. It is, however, wrong.
Since there is (currently) no scientifically verifiable evidence to support
either side of the God question, both theism and atheism have to be called
beliefs. Just as theism is a belief that there is a God, atheism is the
belief that there isn't. Atheism, therefore, is not immune to the criticisms
that other belief systems might draw.

2. "Atheism is not a-or has no-philosophy."
This is not true. Atheists believe that there is no God. Therefore, they
believe that all decisions made by the individual, the family and the
government should be made without regard to religious dogma. That is a
philosophy. This is true regardless of anecdotal incidents when atheists,
for ulterior motives, say that it's okay for certain people to believe in
God, e.g., "I'm in favor of the citizens of such-and-such country believing
in God if it will keep them from slaughtering each other." These are
actually exceptions that prove the rule, since they are always under unusual
circumstances. The basic atheistic philosophy remains intact. Even when an
atheist says, "I don't care if other people believe in God or not," he's
merely expressing an isolationist viewpoint toward a philosophy that he
still applies to himself. Otherwise, he wouldn't be an atheist, for no
atheist will follow any religious dogma.

3. "Atheism is supported by science."
Again, this is not true. Because no scientifically verifiable evidence
exists on either side of the God question, science can't even address the
issue, let alone reach any conclusion.

4. "Atheism is supported by logic."
Not only is this wrong, just the opposite is true. In logic, it's
impossible to prove a negative, that is, prove that a God Who Can Do
Anything doesn't exist. When someone claims he is an atheist, he is in
effect claiming to have proven a negative (at least to himself)-which is a
logical impossibility. In terms of pure logic, the only viable alternative
to theism is actually agnosticism, which is the belief that the existence of
God cannot be known. But atheism runs counter to logic.

5. "The burden of proof is on theists."
No, it isn't. While the burden of proof might vary depending on whether
you're talking about science or law, in almost all instances, the burden of
proof lies with the deviation from the norm. A man who claims he can run a
mile in one minute-while the world's best atheletes can't break the
three-minute mark-has the burden of proving that he can do it. Right now,
about 90% of the world's population believes there is a Supreme Being. Plus,
throughout known history-even back to the days of the caveman-humans have
believed in some sort of God. These points are enough to clearly establish
theism as the normal state. It is therefore up to atheists to make their
case for the deviation.

6. "There is no evidence to support a belief in God."
Yes, there is. Testimonial evidence abounds. Millions claim that God has
touched their hearts, cured their illnesses and improved their lives.
Atheists refuse to acknowledge this evidence, because they accept only
scientifically verifiable evidence. This is a restriction that they have
chosen to place upon themselves, yet they demand that others do the same
thing, which is ridiculous. Atheists say that human testimony can't be
trusted because human senses can't be trusted. The fact that this twisted
logic effectively discounts all life experiences doesn't seem to phase
atheists in the least. It's yet another example of how atheism shuts down
the mind.

Reasons are right on the money.

FrancisTony:
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Na una dey make them popular
Leave them to their believes & stop trying to psycho analyse them

7. "Theists should believe in the Invisible Pink Unicorn."
This is in reference to something called the Invisible Pink Unicorn
Argument, an amusing little ditty that atheists enjoy bringing up from time
to time. The argument says that, since theists have no evidence that God
exists, then they can't discount the existence of other "fictitious" Gods,
such as-you guessed it-the Invisible Pink Unicorn. On closer examination,
this argument actually goes against atheists. As I mentioned above, theists
accept the testimony of others as valid evidence for the existence of God.
Literally millions of people believe in God, pray to Him, worship Him, and
claim that He has cured their illnesses and changed their lives. This can't
be said of the Invisible Pink Unicorn, so theists don't believe in it. On
the other hand, since atheists reject testimonial evidence, it is they-and
not theists-who can't distinguish between the Unicorn and God.

8. "Religion is the major cause of war."
This is historically incorrect. When it comes to the causes of war,
religion comes after politics, economics, territory, natural resources and
greed. World leaders who want war have often tried to rally support from
their people by tying the effort to their religious beliefs, but that has
nothing to do with the real reasons for their wanting to go to war.

9. "The crusades and the inquisition show that Christianity is evil."
In any organization, there is the potential for corruption. Those events
took place at a time when the Bible was kept under lock and key within the
walls of the church. The public was not allowed to read it and had to depend
on their priests to do all Biblical interpretations. This was a system that
bred corruption. Dishonest priests would pander to dishonest rulers, and the
result was sometimes anything but religious. I agree with historians who say
that, had the Bible been available to the public, those events would've
never been allowed to happen.

10. "The majority of prisoners/criminals are theists."
This is a bogus argument for two reasons:

(1) Since 90% of the population is theistic, it's not statistically
surprising that the majority of people in any given institution would be
theists.

(2) The relevant surveys, taken within prison walls, are unreliable since
prisoners are known to give answers that they feel will put them in the best
light in the eyes of prison officials in particular and the public in
general. They know it's not going to help their chances for parole if they
claim to reject God, so they say they are theists.

11. "Christians have a higher divorce rate than do atheists."
Atheists who use this argument think that it illustrates how hypocritical
Christians are. But in reality, it shows just the opposite.
Atheists believe that morality is relative, that is, there is no absolute
"good" or "bad" behavior. Atheists therefore get to make up their own morals
to fit whatever lifestyle they desire. For example, if an atheistic husband
finds out his wife has been cheating on him, he has the option of deciding
that cheating is okay. The two of them might even decide to have an "open
marriage," in which both parties can freely enjoy extramarital affairs. With
a morality that can be changed to suit any set of circumstances, atheists
have fewer reasons to seek a divorce.
Christians, on the other hand, receive their morality from God via the
Bible. Those morals can't be augmented to suit the whims of the moment.
Infidelity and other such offenses are taken very seriously. After doing
what he can to save a marriage, sometimes a Christian literally has to
choose between following God or sticking with a spouse who wants to pursue
an ungodly lifestyle. Sometimes divorce is the only answer.
So, it is because of high Christian values-and not hypocrisy-that the
divorce rate is higher among Christians, while atheists have fewer divorces
because of their changeable standards of morality.

12. "Atheists do good deeds because it's the right thing to do, while
Christians do them because they want to get to heaven."

Both sides of this statement are wrong. Atheists believe in the
evolutionary theory that everything a person does can be linked to either
the drive to survive or the drive to reproduce. And they do mean everything.
They believe that a child loves his mother because the mother is needed for
survival; a man loves a woman because she can help him reproduce; people do
good deeds because it keeps them from being killed by those who might
otherwise dislike them; etc. Christians, on the other hand, do good deeds
through the compassion that is taught in the Bible. Going to heaven is
simply the icing on the cake.

Another christian TOOLBAG copies and pastes LIES.


YAWN.


FrancisTony, you need common-sense!

13. "Can your all-powerful God create a rock that is too heavy for Him to
move?"
If you answer, "No," then the atheist will reply, "Then your God can't
create such a rock and therefore isn't all-powerful."
If you answer, "Yes," then the atheist will reply, "Then your God won't be
able to move the rock and therefore isn't all-powerful."
I've read a few long and complicated "answers" to this apparent dilemma,
but the fact is, the question itself is problematic, much like the question,
"Can God run and walk at the same time?" or even the often-quoted statement,
"Everything I say is a lie." (If everything I say is a lie, then that
statement itself is a lie, so I must therefore be telling the truth. But if
I'm telling the truth, then everything I say must be a lie, and we're back
to square one.) All three examples illustrate the limitations of the human
mind and its logic. The "rock" question doesn't say anything about the
nature of God nor His power, but our own inability to comprehend something
that is beyond our understanding.
I will probably periodically add to this list, so stay tuned.


http://goodtothosewholovegod.weebly.com/13-flaws-of-atheism.html

JackBizzle:
Another christian TOOLBAG copies and pastes LIES.


YAWN.


FrancisTony, you need common-sense!

so you think you have common sense?

Elantracey:


so you think you have common sense?

YES!

cdamsel:
Na una dey make them popular
Leave them to their believes & stop trying to psycho analyse them

Lol. I saw the article somewhere and wanted to share.

That's what spice this section sha.

Elantracey:


so you think you have common sense?

Are you minding that dude?

That's a muslim dude alternate account.

The same person that was disguising as a christian on our chat thread.

He just exposed himself.

OP, prove to me there is God.

Billyonaire:
OP, prove to me there is God.

Read my Original Post.

Millions of people have proved it through the testimony of what God has done in their life but you'll ne'er accept it.

FrancisTony:


Read my Original Post.

Millions of people have proved it through the testimony of what God has done in their life but you'll ne'er accept it.

I dont need testimony, I need a proof that there is God. Now its difficult, isnt it ?

Billyonaire:
OP, prove to me there is God.

We have passed this level here. Anything you want to believe that's your business.

honourhim:


We have passed this level here. Anything you want to believe that's your business.

No we havent. Now its been 2 persons, not even able to prove that there is God. Okay, proof to me there is Satan.

FrancisTony:


Read my Original Post.

Millions of people have proved it through the testimony of what God has done in their life but you'll ne'er accept it.

Bro leave that guy to believe whatever he wants. You ve made your points. God bless you.

Just number 1.


Whoever wrote that number is low of understand and critical thinking. Worst is, he becomes a fool when he makes his foolly public, and you, francistony, are not different from this madman.

Whenever again you meet the madman ask him whether he made a mistake by saying 13flaws of "atheism". Ask him if he really understood the word in quote before concluding on posting scraps.


Another is, ask him what rational atheist couldn't disprove the existence of God when he requested for it. If you think disproving the existence of God isn't possible then I suggest you have your brain and common sense examined.

So you ask me to disprove it. It's simple. First, what brought the knowledge of God? The holy books. Cool. Easy. Once you can debunked these books (which already have), then you debunk and disprove the existence of God.

If remaining a deist is your alternative, that's just irrational. Where do you get your idea of God from? Just a wishful thinking. An atheist remains neutral and lives his life

FrancisTony:


Are you minding that dude?

That's a muslim dude alternate account.

The same person that was disguising as a christian on our chat thread.

He just exposed himself.

Whatever lies you spout about me, it doesnt change the fact that you copied and pasted nonsense.


You lack creativity and original thought.

FrancisTony:

6. "There is no evidence to support a belief in God."
Yes, there is. Testimonial evidence abounds. Millions claim that God has
touched their hearts, cured their illnesses and improved their lives.
Atheists refuse to acknowledge this evidence, because they accept only
scientifically verifiable evidence. This is a restriction that they have
chosen to place upon themselves, yet they demand that others do the same
thing, which is ridiculous. Atheists say that human testimony can't be
trusted because human senses can't be trusted. The fact that this twisted
logic effectively discounts all life experiences doesn't seem to phase
atheists in the least. It's yet another example of how atheism shuts down
the mind.

Human testimony?

Do you accept my muslim testimony that Allah is the one and true God and that he decrees that no one should drink alcohol?

JackBizzle:





Human testimony?

Do you accept my muslim testimony that Allah is the one and true God and that he decrees that no one should drink alcohol?

Nice one there.


The OP is confused about his life. He doesn't know where he belongs to.

Pr0ton:


Nice one there.


The OP is confused about his life. He doesn't know where he belongs to.

Dont mind him.

All he knows how to do is copy and paste

I'm not an atheist or a muslim, neither a Christian. But those points up there lack critical thinking and it's too shallow.

For every flaw you find in non faith based religions, there are two or more counter flaws waiting. They won't realise that cos of their shallow way of thinking..

Billyonaire:
I dont need testimony, I need a proof that there is God. Now its difficult, isnt it ?

so you think God will just come and reavel Himself to a dirty mind like us? They only two option you have is the testimony of a witness or you confessed the word of God(jesus).

malvisguy212:
so you think God will just come and reavel Himself to a dirty mind like us? They only two option you have is the testimony of a witness or you confessed the word of God(jesus).

God revealed himself to Moses and co in the bible......didnt he?

Or are Nigerians somehow less holy than old school Jews

JackBizzle:



God revealed himself to Moses and co in the bible......didnt he?

Or are Nigerians somehow less holy than old school Jews

they were raised in a Godly family, they worship God before God revealed himself to them.

malvisguy212:
so you think God will just come and reavel Himself to a dirty mind like us? They only two option you have is the testimony of a witness or you confessed the word of God(jesus).

Don't forget how God revealed Himself to Paul "who was on his way to Damascus to persecute the Christians".

malvisguy212:
they were raised in a Godly family, they worship God before God revealed himself to them.

And remember that Moses grew up in Pharoah's own family.

JackBizzle:





Human testimony?

Do you accept my muslim testimony that Allah is the one and true God and that he decrees that no one should drink alcohol?

Rilwayne?

1) I'm talking about real-life testimony i.e happening ones not quaran or bible own.

2) Christianiaty came before Islam. Muhammed did copy and paste.

3) I've experienced christian testimonies and wonders by myself.

4) You're confused because your question is doubting Allah's existence.

Pr0ton:


Nice one there.


The OP is confused about his life. He doesn't know where he belongs to.

Argumentum ad-hominem.

I smashed a groin. Attack my argument/point not me.

Ramon92:
I'm not an atheist or a muslim, neither a Christian. But those points up there lack critical thinking and it's too shallow.

For every flaw you find in non faith based religions, there are two or more counter flaws waiting. They won't realise that cos of their shallow way of thinking..

I am waiting for you to debunk those points with your broadened-way of reasoning.

By the way, you're what?

Francistony I dub thee the copy-paste lord

http://goodtothosewholovegod.weebly.com/13-flaws-of-atheism.html

such "flaws" were shown to be dishonest and false since 05'.

http://atheist-seeker..com.es/2005/07/theists-13-biggest-flawed.html?m=1