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Mexico Missing Students Mayor Held Responsible Not President, Nigerians Learn . by jking001(m): 6:00am On Nov 16, 2014
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-11-04/mexico-mayor-wanted-in-missing-students-case-detained-in-capital.html


http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN0IR2CJ20141108?irpc=932

Mexico says missing students likely burned to ashes by gang

By Lizbeth Diaz

MEXICO CITY | Sat Nov 8, 2014 1:50pm EST

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By Lizbeth Diaz

MEXICO CITY (Reuters) - Forty-three missing students abducted by corrupt police in southwest Mexico six weeks ago were apparently incinerated by drug gang henchmen and their remains tipped in a garbage dump and a river, the government said on Friday.

Attorney General Jesus Murillo said three detainees, caught a week ago, admitted setting fire to a group of bodies in a dump near Iguala in the state of Guerrero, where the trainee teachers went missing on Sept. 26 after clashing with local police.

Then, the perpetrators set about removing all the evidence, Murillo told a news conference, showing taped confessions of the detained, photographs of where remains were found and video re-enactments of how the bodies were moved.

"They didn't just burn the bodies with their clothes, they also burned the clothes of those who participated," Murillo said, adding the gang members spent over 12 hours torching the remains. "They tried to erase every possible trace."

The government says police working with a local drug gang abducted the students after the clashes. The kidnapping triggered mass protests in much of the country and seriously undermined President Enrique Pena Nieto's claims that Mexico has become safer on his watch.

The disappearances have been the toughest challenge yet to face Pena Nieto, who took office two years ago vowing to restore order in Mexico, where about 100,000 people have died in violence linked to organized crime since 2007.

A grim-faced Pena Nieto said the findings had "shocked and offended" Mexico and pledged to round up everyone involved.

"The investigations will be carried out to the full, all those responsible will be punished under the law," he said.

Dozens of police are among 74 people held in the case.

The scandal has forced Pena Nieto to cut short a planned visit to China next week, and angry relatives of the missing students said the government had only made the announcement to clear the path for the president to go.

"Pena Nieto should think hard about his trip," said Felipe de la Cruz, father of one of the missing students. "As long as there is no proof, our children are alive."

The confessions of the gang members pointed to the murder "of a large number of people," Murillo said, showing a video of one suspect saying the victims had said they were students.

Identifying the remains, which were ground up after burning, was so difficult that it was impossible to say when final results would come in, Murillo said. But there was much evidence "that could indicate it is (the students)," he added.

Teeth of victims found at the scene were so badly burned that they virtually turned to dust upon contact, Murillo said, adding that the remains would be sent to the University of Innsbruck in Austria for final DNA identification.

The government would continue to view the students as missing until their identities are confirmed, he added.

This week, Mexican police captured the former mayor of Iguala and his wife, who the government suspects of being the probable masterminds of the abductions.

Testimony from investigators suggested that the students, from an all-male leftist college, had clashed with the mayor in the past and that the city police had handed them over to local gangsters who killed them.

The case has dented Pena Nieto's popularity and derailed his efforts to turn public attention toward a string of reforms he passed in the first part of his government, which he hopes will spur stronger growth in Mexico's misfiring economy.

(Reporting by Lizbeth Diaz and Dave Graham; Editing by Simon Gardner, James Dalgleish and Ken Wills)
Re: Mexico Missing Students Mayor Held Responsible Not President, Nigerians Learn . by Akpaife(m): 6:07am On Nov 16, 2014
If it is in Nig mumu piple will throw on Goodluck

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Re: Mexico Missing Students Mayor Held Responsible Not President, Nigerians Learn . by MrKnowitall: 6:10am On Nov 16, 2014
Jonathan is responsible for everything. The man is responsible but yet very irresponsible at the same time. He's just a confusing fellow.

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Re: Mexico Missing Students Mayor Held Responsible Not President, Nigerians Learn . by Nobody: 6:13am On Nov 16, 2014
Because Jonathan is the commander in chief of the arm forces.if he is only president no problem,but it is coupled with commander in chief of the arm forces.

Do you think commander in chief is just a title?

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Re: Mexico Missing Students Mayor Held Responsible Not President, Nigerians Learn . by adebayo201: 6:17am On Nov 16, 2014
who read am finish!
Re: Mexico Missing Students Mayor Held Responsible Not President, Nigerians Learn . by jayonpoint(m): 6:20am On Nov 16, 2014
@Op are u a learner? Do u want to compare their political order to nig? The power to the office of president here is too enormous and ambiguous yet it doesn't nothing or too little except to better the lots of the cliques within the circle and the population becomes the pawn in their game of chess.

A frederation without the components of her units. Better dnt compare @whatever term coz we practice militariocracy here with absolute powers to the president including lands,water n transportation. The list is endless which a rubbish of this democracy of ours.

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Re: Mexico Missing Students Mayor Held Responsible Not President, Nigerians Learn . by lilprinze: 6:27am On Nov 16, 2014
Any thing that happens in Nigeria GEJ is the cause if rain refuse to fall APC would still foolishly blame GEJ for not allowing rain to fall.

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Re: Mexico Missing Students Mayor Held Responsible Not President, Nigerians Learn . by Alphaoscar: 6:29am On Nov 16, 2014
its seem most of pro- GEJ supporters always have problem understanding issues. how can you compare the above scenario to Chibok abduction?


you guys need to start approaching issues with a clear mind and stop embarrassing GEJ and yourselves.

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Re: Mexico Missing Students Mayor Held Responsible Not President, Nigerians Learn . by darqly(m): 6:48am On Nov 16, 2014
Op, you posted a story you obviously haven't read or understood...

A grim-faced Pena Nieto said the findings had "shocked and offended" Mexico and pledged to round up everyone involved
That's their president speaking, assuming responsibility.

This week, Mexican police captured the former mayor of Iguala and his wife, who the government suspects of being the probable masterminds of the abductions
That's the arrest of a mayor alleged to have ties with a drug cartel responsible for the disappearance.
GEJ once publicly announced that he has BH in his cabinet- Have they been arrested or made known?

The case has dented Pena Nieto's popularity
74 deaths have thrown Mexico's presidents' popularity out the window and jeopardized his government's achievements.
How many girls are missing from Chibok again? How many students were blown to bits before GEJ's declaration? How many Nigerians die daily at the hands of BH? How many are presently displaced from their homes?

Your post clearly shows what a capable president should do or has done. Compare it to your Jona's daily empty promise to bring perpetrators to book for the last 5 years angry
Sycophants, Learn.

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Re: Mexico Missing Students Mayor Held Responsible Not President, Nigerians Learn . by GogetterMD(m): 6:54am On Nov 16, 2014
darqly:
Op, you posted a story you obviously haven't read or understood...


That's their president speaking, assuming responsibility.


That's the arrest of a mayor alleged to have ties with a drug cartel responsible for the disappearance.
GEJ once publicly announced that he has BH in his cabinet- Have they been arrested or made known?


74 deaths have thrown Mexico's presidents' popularity out the window and jeopardized his government's achievements.
How many girls are missing from Chibok again? How many students were blown to bits before GEJ's declaration? How many Nigerians die daily at the hands of BH? How many are presently displaced from their homes?

Your post clearly shows what a capable president should do or has done. Compare it to your Jona's daily empty promise to bring perpetrators to book for the last 5 years angry
Sycophants, Learn.

You echoed my mind. The OP seems to have problems with comprehension. Add the fact that the president cut short his planned trip to China

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Re: Mexico Missing Students Mayor Held Responsible Not President, Nigerians Learn . by omenka(m): 6:59am On Nov 16, 2014
This is my problem with people who support Jonathan. They could be downright daft. Is the Nigerian police force modelled like Mexico's??

According to Wikipedia:

Law enforcement in Mexico is divided
between federal, state, and municipal entities.

There are two federal police forces, 31 state
police forces (and two for the federal district)
and one estimate suggests over 1,600 municipal
police forces.
The police were said to be the ones who abducted the students and they are under the command of the Mayor, hence the demand of the protesters.

Not withstanding, the protesters also demanded the resignation of the president: www.demotix.com/news/6114536/amlo-demands-resignation-president-over-death-43-students#media-6114505

Next time, do your homework properly before bringing shiit out here fool.

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Re: Mexico Missing Students Mayor Held Responsible Not President, Nigerians Learn . by GogetterMD(m): 7:04am On Nov 16, 2014
omenka:
This is my problem with people who support Jonathan. They could be downright daft. Is the Nigerian police force modelled like Mexico's??

According to Wikipedia:
The police were said to be the ones who abducted the students and they are under the command of the Mayor, hence the demand of the protesters.

Not withstanding, the protesters also demanded the resignation of the president: www.demotix.com/news/6114536/amlo-demands-resignation-president-over-death-43-students#media-6114505

Next time, do your homework properly before bringing shiit out here fool.
May you never lack my brother

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Re: Mexico Missing Students Mayor Held Responsible Not President, Nigerians Learn . by chakula: 7:06am On Nov 16, 2014
GogetterMD:


You echoed my mind. The OP seems to have problems with comprehension. Add the fact that the president cut short his planned trip to China

They were here 24/7 to shield their master even though he is on failure on many things.

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Re: Mexico Missing Students Mayor Held Responsible Not President, Nigerians Learn . by bitterpenis(m): 7:07am On Nov 16, 2014
So you think say you fit absolve GEJ from the Chibok girl saga with this post? Smh

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Re: Mexico Missing Students Mayor Held Responsible Not President, Nigerians Learn . by GogetterMD(m): 7:11am On Nov 16, 2014
chakula:


They were here 24/7 to shield their master even though he is on failure on many things.
And they do such a poor job @ it. Such a shame

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Re: Mexico Missing Students Mayor Held Responsible Not President, Nigerians Learn . by pendy79: 7:21am On Nov 16, 2014
I have always said that the thought process and reasoning faculty of anybody PRO-GEJ need to be checked.

Here is someone who on his own volition created a thread that is shouting "I must be stupid and daft like GEJ" you posted a thread clearly negating your TITLE. Did you do english comprehension in primary and secondary school at all?

The presidential palace was burnt in a protest amid wide anger and riot by mexicans demanding the president stepped down despite the fact the culprits were apprehended and are in custody.

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Re: Mexico Missing Students Mayor Held Responsible Not President, Nigerians Learn . by Oklander: 7:26am On Nov 16, 2014
Very daft post, as usual you Mr. Clueless supporters will always be very daft in your reasoning and comprehension, good your daftness has been exposed by few posts above.. iidiot.!

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Re: Mexico Missing Students Mayor Held Responsible Not President, Nigerians Learn . by Nobody: 7:27am On Nov 16, 2014
Akpaife:
If it is in Nig mumu piple will throw on Goodluck

Sir, next time, please read before posting trash. You just embarrassed yourself.

It was the Mexican president that was held responsible. The OP even mentioned that the president was forced to cut his trip to China and that his image has been dented by the scandal.

The former mayor was arrested because the government suspects that he has a hand in the abduction.

Please, always read well and learn to understand a post well so you don't end up embarrassing yourself.

@jking001, it is a shame that you posted this post without understanding what is being said in it.

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Re: Mexico Missing Students Mayor Held Responsible Not President, Nigerians Learn . by GogetterMD(m): 7:40am On Nov 16, 2014
Abeg, Mod should come and close this mumu thread so that the Op can go back to sleep.

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Re: Mexico Missing Students Mayor Held Responsible Not President, Nigerians Learn . by adeyemik: 7:41am On Nov 16, 2014
Why do people like twisting information? Do some people takes it as a delight to mislead other news readers for political gains or just been mischievous?

The incident that led to the killing or death of the students was initiated by the Mexican mayor and his wife. The students went on protest, in the course of their protest, they disrupted an event or show that was organized by the mayor's wife. The mayor felt slighted, he called on his affiliated drug gang members similar to area boys in nigeria to arrest or kidnap some of the protesters about 42 or 45 of them. The boys were beated and burnt to death with their remains thrown into a river.

When the parents of the boys cried out and news all over the place, a team of investigators was dispatched by the federal government to investigate and locate the boys, it was in the course of their investigation that it was uncovered that the city mayor or local government chairman was the one that order for the adoptions of the boys, and immediately the Mexican president ordered the arrest of the mayor and his wife, and further investigation led to the arrest of some of the gang members that carried out killing.

Now back to your misleading and jaundice headline or topic, investigation revealed that mayor was the achitect of the boys adoption and subsequent killing, who should be held responsible, the mayor or the president? The answer is the mayor. No sane Mexican will ever accuse the president for such an incident. And for the fact that the president acted promptly, he is free from all blames.

Let's juxtaposed the Mexican incident to the Chibok incident -

1. Students were adopted by gang members - True

2. Was the adoption ordered by the state governor o local governement chairman? No

3. Was there a cry out by the parent - Yes

4. Was prompt action taken by the president of the country - No, it took three weeks before the government could react to the chibok girls adoption. Thanks to CNN and other international news media, social networks that coutinued to aired the adoption before the president could react.

5. Was an high powered investigation team raise by the government at the center to investigate the adoption and locate the adoptees? - No

6. Are there armed gangs in Mexico? Yes - drug lord and heavly armed than Boko Haram.

7. Was the Mexican government a listening government? Yes - The president acted immediately, he spoke before world press on the issue. Nothing of such happened in Nigeria. Infact, the government minders and spokesman initially denied the adoption ever happened. Asari Dokubo, still claims the adoption is a fluke.

8. Did the president order for that arrest of the mayor, his wife and other powerful people involved in the adoption immediately? Yes, he did. That never happened in Nigeria. Rather, our president was wining and dinning with some of the alleged sponsor of Boko Haram.

The reason(s) why Nigerians are accusing the president for the Chibok incident was because of his inaction when the incident was first reported and buck passing game. In Mexico, the president sees it has his responsibility to protect the lives of those boys, he didn't wait for the state governor to fly to the presidential palace to brief him of the incident. The president activated all the federal might by making the country's attorney general the head of the investigation team to ensuring that the mystery over the boys disappearance was unearthed.

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Re: Mexico Missing Students Mayor Held Responsible Not President, Nigerians Learn . by egift(m): 7:55am On Nov 16, 2014
Jonathan will not be held responsible in Nigeria is he has a clue to investigate and and unravel the true culprits of the senseless killings. But when he shield and show unwillingness to bring the perpetrators to book - He gets all the blame for Inaction.

That is why many Nigerians believe he has no clue.

All Jonathan care about is Money (Budget, allocations, contracts, NNPC money, CBN account balance, kickbacks, elections, etc).

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Re: Mexico Missing Students Mayor Held Responsible Not President, Nigerians Learn . by jking001(m): 3:30pm On Nov 16, 2014
What are these APC JANJAWEEDIANS TALKING ABOUT now tell me who initiated the chibok girls kidnapping if not for those that have sold out Nigeria for political gains just so they wouldnbe president the threatened fire and brimstone , janjaweeidan did you know how long it took before investigation started on this case if you did not folllow the case don't come here misleading people they have been looking for this student for a long time and the search made them unvover a mass grave continue in your mischievous way of misleading gullible people who don't dig deep and reason out the truth for themselves before passing out judgement
Re: Mexico Missing Students Mayor Held Responsible Not President, Nigerians Learn . by jking001(m): 3:31pm On Nov 16, 2014
What are these APC JANJAWEEDIANS TALKING ABOUT, HATERS WHO JUDGE WITH SENTIMENTS now tell me who initiated the chibok girls kidnapping if not for those that have sold out Nigeria for political gains just so they would be president they threatened fire and brimstone , janjaweeidan did you know how long it took before investigation started on this case if you did not folllow the case don't come here misleading people they have been looking for this student for a long time and the search made them unvover a mass grave continue in your mischievous way of misleading gullible people who don't dig deep and reason out the truth for themselves before passing out judgement







adeyemik:
Why do people like twisting information? Do some people takes it as a delight to mislead other news readers for political gains or just been mischievous?

The incident that led to the killing or death of the students was initiated by the Mexican mayor and his wife. The students went on protest, in the course of their protest, they disrupted an event or show that was organized by the mayor's wife. The mayor felt slighted, he called on his affiliated drug gang members similar to area boys in nigeria to arrest or kidnap some of the protesters about 42 or 45 of them. The boys were beated and burnt to death with their remains thrown into a river.

When the parents of the boys cried out and news all over the place, a team of investigators was dispatched by the federal government to investigate and locate the boys, it was in the course of their investigation that it was uncovered that the city mayor or local government chairman was the one that order for the adoptions of the boys, and immediately the Mexican president ordered the arrest of the mayor and his wife, and further investigation led to the arrest of some of the gang members that carried out killing.

Now back to your misleading and jaundice headline or topic, investigation revealed that mayor was the achitect of the boys adoption and subsequent killing, who should be held responsible, the mayor or the president? The answer is the mayor. No sane Mexican will ever accuse the president for such an incident. And for the fact that the president acted promptly, he is free from all blames.

Let's juxtaposed the Mexican incident to the Chibok incident -

1. Students were adopted by gang members - True

2. Was the adoption ordered by the state governor o local governement chairman? No

3. Was there a cry out by the parent - Yes

4. Was prompt action taken by the president of the country - No, it took three weeks before the government could react to the chibok girls adoption. Thanks to CNN and other international news media, social networks that coutinued to aired the adoption before the president could react.

5. Was an high powered investigation team raise by the government at the center to investigate the adoption and locate the adoptees? - No

6. Are there armed gangs in Mexico? Yes - drug lord and heavly armed than Boko Haram.

7. Was the Mexican government a listening government? Yes - The president acted immediately, he spoke before world press on the issue. Nothing of such happened in Nigeria. Infact, the government minders and spokesman initially denied the adoption ever happened. Asari Dokubo, still claims the adoption is a fluke.

8. Did the president order for that arrest of the mayor, his wife and other powerful people involved in the adoption immediately? Yes, he did. That never happened in Nigeria. Rather, our president was wining and dinning with some of the alleged sponsor of Boko Haram.

The reason(s) why Nigerians are accusing the president for the Chibok incident was because of his inaction when the incident was first reported and buck passing game. In Mexico, the president sees it has his responsibility to protect the lives of those boys, he didn't wait for the state governor to fly to the presidential palace to brief him of the incident. The president activated all the federal might by making the country's attorney general the head of the investigation team to ensuring that the mystery over the boys disappearance was unearthed.



Re: Mexico Missing Students Mayor Held Responsible Not President, Nigerians Learn . by GogetterMD(m): 6:33pm On Nov 16, 2014
jking001:
What are these APC JANJAWEEDIANS TALKING ABOUT now tell me who initiated the chibok girls kidnapping if not for those that have sold out Nigeria for political gains just so they wouldnbe president the threatened fire and brimstone , janjaweeidan did you know how long it took before investigation started on this case if you did not folllow the case don't come here misleading people they have been looking for this student for a long time and the search made them unvover a mass grave continue in your mischievous way of misleading gullible people who don't dig deep and reason out the truth for themselves before passing out judgement
Read what you just wrote,
Now read it again.
Does it make any sense to you?

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