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Re: Nwobodo’s Son’s Corpse Missing, Burial Postponed by filcast(m): 10:45am On Dec 06, 2014
Maynekky:
Pls traditionally, d first son loses his inheritance once he die before their father. the second son automatically inherit their father's house. So, Dim building a house for d son ȋ̝̊̅§ a very good idea cos he ȋ̝̊̅§ given d widow a home. Even if he bury his first son in his compound, d wife n children will still relocate because they Ω̶̣̣̥̇̊ọ̥ longer have a place in d compound.
very correct! And from a 'female', congrts! This aspect of the traditional igbo inheritance system is what I have been sieving the comments here for.
Re: Nwobodo’s Son’s Corpse Missing, Burial Postponed by Agayiba(m): 10:50am On Dec 06, 2014
In Awkunanaw,where Nwobodo is from,the first son loses his right as first son if he die before his father(even if he had many wives and children).When a man die his sons will bury him,the most seniour among them becomes the first son.main compound cannot be given to a wife or daughter.Nwobodo'schildren are being misled by people who do not know our custom.
Re: Nwobodo’s Son’s Corpse Missing, Burial Postponed by Nobody: 10:57am On Dec 06, 2014
God will return back his corpse back 2 d family....
Re: Nwobodo’s Son’s Corpse Missing, Burial Postponed by o42austino(m): 11:03am On Dec 06, 2014
Sealeddeal:
Jim Nwobodo is still alive and therefore is still the owner of his Obi and only him has the right to bequeath it to whosoever he wishes.The laws you are referring to above holds when Jim Nwobodo die without sharing his property and remember,the nigerian constitution is greater than any native law in Nigeria.Jim Nwobodo can sell all his assets including his Obi or bequeath it to anybody. The deceased is a married man and therefore,he has to be buried in his family home which is the new compound given to him by his father. His brothers are making a futile effort.
Lol....Jim can't give his Obi to anyperson he like, he can give his order Properties that he has all over Enugu to anyone he wants but d Obi at the Village can not be give to just anybody but d first son and since he has passon b4 his fada d mantle of d firstson now falls on d second son who is now by tradition d firstson and it was started clearly that his in support that d lateson be buried in Obi which now Belongs to him.

Regarding abt Nigerian Law,u forgot that it d customary court that will hear such case abd that customary court will first look at what tradition says and marrys it with d law b4 making a pronouncement, No judge judges people only with what d constitution says, D Evidence Act talks abt d discretion of d Judge abt a matter b4 him.

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Re: Nwobodo’s Son’s Corpse Missing, Burial Postponed by o42austino(m): 11:03am On Dec 06, 2014
Sealeddeal:
Jim Nwobodo is still alive and therefore is still the owner of his Obi and only him has the right to bequeath it to whosoever he wishes.The laws you are referring to above holds when Jim Nwobodo die without sharing his property and remember,the nigerian constitution is greater than any native law in Nigeria.Jim Nwobodo can sell all his assets including his Obi or bequeath it to anybody. The deceased is a married man and therefore,he has to be buried in his family home which is the new compound given to him by his father. His brothers are making a futile effort.
Lol....Jim can't give his Obi to anyperson he like, he can give his order Properties that he has all over Enugu to anyone he wants but d Obi at the Village can not be give to just anybody but d first son and since he has passon b4 his fada d mantle of d firstson now falls on d second son who is now by tradition d firstson and it was started clearly that his in support that d lateson be buried in Obi which now Belongs to him.

Regarding abt Nigerian Law,u forgot that it d customary court that will hear such case abd that customary court will first look at what tradition says and marrys it with d law b4 making a pronouncement, No judge judges people only with what d constitution says, D Evidence Act talks abt d discretion of d Judge abt a matter b4 him
Re: Nwobodo’s Son’s Corpse Missing, Burial Postponed by Meringe(m): 11:09am On Dec 06, 2014
Most of you here don't actually know the custom and traditions of people. Traditionally, any 1st son that dies before his father , has lost the right of the first son. But his father can decide to give his son's children whatever he wants. Now, jim is not wrong if he decides to bury him at his new building but who knows the motive behind it. His son has no case here, it's the father right to decide where to bury his son. There's still more to this news than the writer is making us to know.
Re: Nwobodo’s Son’s Corpse Missing, Burial Postponed by Sagamite(m): 11:10am On Dec 06, 2014
lalasticlala:
The burial of the late Dr Ifeanyichukwu Nwobodo, the first son of former civilian governor of old Anambra State, Chief Jim Ifeanyichukwu Nwobodo, scheduled to hold yesterday in Enugu State was aborted following the disappearance of the deceased’s corpse, LEADERSHIP Weekend gathered.

It was gathered that the two younger brothers of the deceased (Chukwudi and Uso) kept the corpse away from the reach of anybody when it became apparent that the former governor wanted the remains of his late son to be interred within the compound of a new bungalow he built in honour of his first son who died on November 14, 2014.

It was also gathered that Chukwudi and Uso, Jim’s surviving two sons from Mukosolu, his first wife, argued that if their elder brother was buried outside their father’s expansive house at Amaechi Awkunanaw, they would be denied the right to inherit the family house.

Several dignitaries including the deputy senate president, Ike Ekweremadu, Senator Gil Nnaji, Dr Nnia Nwodo and former governor of Anambra State, Mr Peter Obi, who came to commiserate with Chief Nwobodo left after failing to broker peace between the chief mourner and his two sons.

As at the time of filing in this report late yesterday, the duo of Chukwudi and Uso were yet to resolve the nagging issue of the appropriate place to inter the remains of the late Ifeanyichukwu Nwobodo jnr.

It was gathered that before yesterday’s incident, concerned elders of Amaechi Awkunanaw community had pleaded with the Nwobodos to resolve their differences to no avail.

When Chief Nwobodo reportedly concluded plans to bury his late son outside the family compound, Chukwudi and Uso drove to the mortuary and removed the corpse of their late brother to an unknown place.

source:

http://leadership.ng/news/393266/nwobodos-sons-corpse-missing-burial-postponed#respond

I love this story. grin

Please more mishap for this fuuktard crook. grin
Re: Nwobodo’s Son’s Corpse Missing, Burial Postponed by o42austino(m): 11:10am On Dec 06, 2014
Agayiba:
In Awkunanaw,where Nwobodo is from,the first son loses his right as first son if he die before his father(even if he had many wives and children).When a man die his sons will bury him,the most seniour among them becomes the first son.main compound cannot be given to a wife or daughter.Nwobodo'schildren are being misled by people who do not know our custom.
I stay @Agbani Rd Awkunanaw, it is true that when d firstson dies b4 his fada he will lose his firstson to his Younger broda, and it was stated clearly that d now firstson wants his lateBroda buried @ d Obi.
Re: Nwobodo’s Son’s Corpse Missing, Burial Postponed by Hadeep: 11:13am On Dec 06, 2014
Huh


some people don't just have reading patient... But commenting is their headstone.
Re: Nwobodo’s Son’s Corpse Missing, Burial Postponed by o42austino(m): 11:24am On Dec 06, 2014
Meringe:
Most of you here don't actually know the custom and traditions of people. Traditionally, any 1st son that dies before his father , has lost the right of the first son. But his father can decide to give his son's children whatever he wants. Now, jim is not wrong if he decides to bury him at his new building but who knows the motive behind it. His son has no case here, it's the father right to decide where to bury his son. There's still more to this news than the writer is making us to know.
d former governor married two woman, d firstwife is late and she is d mother to Jims Three sons and now one of three (d firstson)is dead, d brodas notice that d second wife is up for something they decided that they want their broda buried @ d Obi, N;B one of d remaining two re now d firstson as traditions demand and he want his broda buried @ d Obi.

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Re: Nwobodo’s Son’s Corpse Missing, Burial Postponed by o42austino(m): 11:25am On Dec 06, 2014
Meringe:
Most of you here don't actually know the custom and traditions of people. Traditionally, any 1st son that dies before his father , has lost the right of the first son. But his father can decide to give his son's children whatever he wants. Now, jim is not wrong if he decides to bury him at his new building but who knows the motive behind it. His son has no case here, it's the father right to decide where to bury his son. There's still more to this news than the writer is making us to know.
d former governor married two woman, d firstwife is late and she is d mother to Jims Three sons and now one of three (d firstson)is dead, d brodas notice that d second wife is up for something they decided that they want their broda buried @ d Obi, N;B one of d remaining two re now d firstson as traditions demand and he want his broda buried @ d Obi
Re: Nwobodo’s Son’s Corpse Missing, Burial Postponed by AreaFada2: 11:37am On Dec 06, 2014
Money is the root of all evil.
Re: Nwobodo’s Son’s Corpse Missing, Burial Postponed by Feranmicharles(m): 11:40am On Dec 06, 2014
holatin:
hmmmmmm and corpes dey useful for election ritual.
source- feranmicharles
undecided
Re: Nwobodo’s Son’s Corpse Missing, Burial Postponed by sorepco(m): 11:41am On Dec 06, 2014
You see, in igbo land the father's house/estate i the village goes to the first son. You dont come and make a will for other sons to inherit your village main compound as you can do in cities. Unless you disown the first son, then can you disinherit him of his traditional right.
Lets say, for argument sake, a father has one house and 4 plots of land in the village; and has 5 sons. The 1st son takes the main family compound where they have their house; while the remaining four will inherit an empty plot each. There is no way the father will as the 1st son to go and inherit an empty land. Even if the last so is a millionaire and rebuilds a mansion on the family compound; the 1st son is the rightful owner of the house.[color=#990000][/color]


DesChyko:
Traditionally or otherwise, these brothers are completely wrong.

Traditionally, the first-born son has the right to his father's compound. Then, he may allow his siblings live close to him or look for other options for them. At his death, he should also be buried in his compound. This will change if the son chooses otherwise.

Otherwise, the father still has exclusive rights to his properties till his will assumes dominance. Even at that, the father writes his wills himself. If he wants it so, the sons had absolutely no right to behave this way.

All in all, the sons had acted in a really selfish manner. It's as if they placed all their hopes in their father's wealth and affluence. It is okay to need a little push here and there to become 'someone' in life, but the way they are going about it, it's as if they expect the father to bequeath their fame to them.

A lesson for all to learn, do not allow the definitions of today drive away your morals. What is evil remains evil.
Re: Nwobodo’s Son’s Corpse Missing, Burial Postponed by Agayiba(m): 11:43am On Dec 06, 2014
o42austino:
d former governor married two woman, d firstwife is late and she is d mother to Jims Three sons and now one of three (d firstson)is dead, d brodas notice that d second wife is up for something they decided that they want their broda buried @ d Obi, N;B one of d remaining two re now d firstson as traditions demand and he want his broda buried @ d Obi.
.[color=#006600][/color]The compound belong to Jim as long as he is still alive.you cannot inherit your father's property while he is still alive.
Re: Nwobodo’s Son’s Corpse Missing, Burial Postponed by WilyWily: 11:59am On Dec 06, 2014
Nairalander01:

believe it or not polygamy is the reason behind this crisis. I witnessed everything that happened yesterday because i live in amechi. Since the death of Jim Nwobodo's first wife his second wife has caged him with diabolic powers that he give a damn about his 3 son(from his first wife). All she is trying to do is to make sure her child(no male) inherits all that jim has, which isn't right; this after she has suceeded in being the 'Husband' to the man, making ALL decision for him. I feel sorry for Jim as I type this; he no longer says/does anything without the permission of his Jezebelic wife.
Is the second wife Yoruba?
Re: Nwobodo’s Son’s Corpse Missing, Burial Postponed by domido(m): 12:01pm On Dec 06, 2014
Shebi na person wey get House na im dey fight. People wey no get house get time to dey fight for houre. Mtswcheeew..... Any way,i blame APC for all dat is happening.
Re: Nwobodo’s Son’s Corpse Missing, Burial Postponed by ASL33: 12:23pm On Dec 06, 2014
Sealeddeal:
the Son died while his father is alive,he has therefore lost the Obi.
And equally,Jim Nwobodo can decide to give his Obi to stranger or even sell it.it is his and only him can decide what to do with his belonging.
You made a lot of sense. In Igbo tradition once the first son die before his father he lose all the titles of the first son. All the titles automatically goes to the second son.
Re: Nwobodo’s Son’s Corpse Missing, Burial Postponed by Btruth: 1:27pm On Dec 06, 2014
Will it not be better for them to go and bury him at the cemetery? The poor corpse need to rest for goodness sake.
Re: Nwobodo’s Son’s Corpse Missing, Burial Postponed by Meringe(m): 1:30pm On Dec 06, 2014
o42austino:
d former governor married two woman, d firstwife is late and she is d mother to Jims Three sons and now one of three (d firstson)is dead, d brodas notice that d second wife is up for something they decided that they want their broda buried @ d Obi, N;B one of d remaining two re now d firstson as traditions demand and he want his broda buried @ d Obi.
as far as the first wife's sons are still alive , there's no case here.
Re: Nwobodo’s Son’s Corpse Missing, Burial Postponed by Nobody: 1:40pm On Dec 06, 2014
Ogojohn:
I do not know from what traditional point of view you are referring but in IGBO land. The first sons right to his fathers homestead is exclusive. it is not somethin a father can even change. will or no will. There are many factors here which will and is working against their father. The first is the the next most two senior sons are from the same mother and they are the next in line to become the first living son. And they are not fighting to take up there dead brothers right and position. chief Nwobodo. will count himself lucky to be alive to witness this. my advise to him. Get a new land and build whatever you want for your latest wife. That your homestead belongs to your first child and i believe he is married and with children. Never can that place be left for your last wife and her children. it s never done. Trying to bury him outside that compound is to nail the coffin on the head but a fox can only beget a fox. Your children were properly advised by an egg head. You can't circumvent this. This will turn out to be a long drawn crisis.

I actually it is different in my part of Anambra , if the first son died while his father is still alive, he will not inherent as the first son, and he cannot be buried in his fathers compound , he will be buried at a place where the children can inherent and build in the future , cos his children will never never inherint that compound, he died while his father is still alive. That disqualifies his first son status
Re: Nwobodo’s Son’s Corpse Missing, Burial Postponed by Nobody: 1:45pm On Dec 06, 2014
o42austino:
I stay @Agbani Rd Awkunanaw, it is true that when d firstson dies b4 his fada he will lose his firstson to his Younger broda, and it was stated clearly that d now firstson wants his lateBroda buried @ d Obi.

Actually he has no right to state anything in this matter, his father is still alive, and who knows if he will survive his father? God forbids sha,
What am saying is he cant rule in his fathers stead while the man is alive.
Re: Nwobodo’s Son’s Corpse Missing, Burial Postponed by sorepco(m): 2:39pm On Dec 06, 2014
[color=#006600][/color]But cant the second son become the first in place of the death of the first son??

tochimas:


I actually it is different in my part of Anambra , if the first son died while his father is still alive, he will not inherent as the first son, and he cannot be buried in his fathers compound , he will be buried at a place where the children can inherent and build in the future , cos his children will never never inherint that compound, he died while his father is still alive. That disqualifies his first son status
Re: Nwobodo’s Son’s Corpse Missing, Burial Postponed by Omofranca(f): 4:16pm On Dec 06, 2014
A man should always count the costs; both short & long term, before embarking on polygamy.(just my own two cents).
Re: Nwobodo’s Son’s Corpse Missing, Burial Postponed by holatin(m): 5:34pm On Dec 06, 2014
Feranmicharles:
undecided
baddest man
Re: Nwobodo’s Son’s Corpse Missing, Burial Postponed by Feranmicharles(m): 5:49pm On Dec 06, 2014
holatin:
baddest man
am backcheesy
Re: Nwobodo’s Son’s Corpse Missing, Burial Postponed by Nobody: 5:54pm On Dec 06, 2014
sorepco:
[color=#006600][/color]But cant the second son become the first in place of the death of the first son??

The second son can but cannot inherit his fathers compound till the father passes. The compound is inherited by the first male to survive his father. That is if that is nwobodo's actual family obi, who knows if Jim himself have moved out from his fathers inherited obi and bought the land he build this particular house?. He may have a small house he built first at the land he inherited from his father or his own fathers house which is what the surviving first son will inherit when the time comes. In which case this house can be willed or shared upon his death
Re: Nwobodo’s Son’s Corpse Missing, Burial Postponed by Ogojohn(m): 6:49pm On Dec 06, 2014
tochimas:


I actually it is different in my part of Anambra , if the first son died while his father is still alive, he will not inherent as the first son, and he cannot be buried in his fathers compound , he will be buried at a place where the children can inherent and build in the future , cos his children will never never inherint that compound, he died while his father is still alive. That disqualifies his first son status
Your point of view was the reason Nwobodo wanted to deprive the first son of his status. But my question is. What of the next most senior son in line. They are not in a hurry to take over that first son status which albeit belongs to their dead brother. Chief Nwobodo himself on which ever angle he wants to twist the tradition can never work in his favour. When a son dies while his father is still alive. He loses his first son status. But in this case. The most senior in line are of the same mother and they are not interested. So Nwobodo is still powerless here. His only ace was to bury the Nwobodo junior outside his homestead and that could have been the master stroke but his sons were wiser. The only option left for him now is. Get a fresh land and build a new place for his wife. The sons has taken over through united brotherhood. The tradition guarantees them that.
Re: Nwobodo’s Son’s Corpse Missing, Burial Postponed by holatin(m): 6:55pm On Dec 06, 2014
Feranmicharles:
am backcheesy
welcome sir
Re: Nwobodo’s Son’s Corpse Missing, Burial Postponed by Feranmicharles(m): 7:04pm On Dec 06, 2014
holatin:
welcome sir
ku le omo rere
Re: Nwobodo’s Son’s Corpse Missing, Burial Postponed by Ogojohn(m): 7:05pm On Dec 06, 2014
Sealeddeal:
the Son died while his father is alive,he has therefore lost the Obi.
And equally,Jim Nwobodo can decide to give his Obi to stranger or even sell it.it is his and only him can decide what to do with his belonging.
Stop twisting IGBO tradition on its head. The OBI was not bought by chief Nwobodo. He inherited it from his father. So also will his son inherit it from him. Even chief Nwobodo in as much he owns the OBI. He can't and has no right to sell it even if he wants to because he holds it in trust for his children. So people should know what they are saying here. An OBI is different from a land or property you bought with your own money. This is an inherited ancestral land. Your right over it is to equally transfer it to your children through your first son and so the chain of transfer continue till end of time.

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Re: Nwobodo’s Son’s Corpse Missing, Burial Postponed by Nobody: 7:13pm On Dec 06, 2014
Ogojohn:
Your point of view was the reason Nwobodo wanted to deprive the first son of his status. But my question is. What of the next most senior son in line. They are not in a hurry to take over that first son status which albeit belongs to their dead brother. Chief Nwobodo himself on which ever angle he wants to twist the tradition can never work in his favour. When a son dies while his father is still alive. He loses his first son status. But in this case. The most senior in line are of the same mother and they are not interested. So Nwobodo is still powerless here. His only ace was to bury the Nwobodo junior outside his homestead and that could have been the master stroke but his sons were wiser. The only option left for him now is. Get a fresh land and build a new place for his wife. The sons has taken over through united brotherhood. The tradition guarantees them that.

It seems you guys has a lot of issue with Jim second wife and not tradition. first son or last, you cannot inherit a man till he is dead. Maybe they should wait till the man is dead before bringing their brother home for burial.
But they should make sure that is his first house built on the land he inherited from his father and not a compound he acquired on his later years.

Now , my cousins are from polygamous home, when the dad died, he the first son was very much alive and inherited their fathers first compound which is a bungalow and not the 3 story building just across the father built in his later year. That was was shared between the two wives first sons. There were no issue with anybody cos that is tradition.

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