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Re: Practical Farmers Pls Share Ur Bitter Experience, Let Learn From Your Mistakes. by Soloxam(m): 8:52pm On Dec 29, 2014
nigerfine:
Happy birthday to you... Soloxam. May goodness and mercy follow you all the days of your life.
Thank you sir.

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Re: Practical Farmers Pls Share Ur Bitter Experience, Let Learn From Your Mistakes. by Soloxam(m): 8:20pm On Dec 31, 2014
Haven known that NURSERY is a place where our young plant is raise and taken care of.
The process could be done/carry out in the farm even in our backyard, provided it not going to be affected by any external forces; goat,lizard,or our domestic animals.

While considering NURSERY, we should ensure our growing medium is deseas, pest and weed free.
Before these could be achieve then we should thing of means to bring all these to check. At this point we will talk of soil STERILIZATION.......... This method will be discuss next year 2015.............

Hope to hear from you all come 2015......... HAPPY NEW YEAR iN ADVANCE..................
Re: Practical Farmers Pls Share Ur Bitter Experience, Let Learn From Your Mistakes. by Soloxam(m): 9:28am On Jan 02, 2015
Happy NEW YEAR ALL FARMERS IN THE HOUSE.
Re: Practical Farmers Pls Share Ur Bitter Experience, Let Learn From Your Mistakes. by jasper7(m): 6:22pm On Jan 02, 2015
I have made 2 major mistakes in farming. The first was the costly assumption that I know it all or I've seen it all. this mistake has cost me so much in the past and it's part of the things I have been trying hard to correct over the years. I have come to understand that the greatest professionals in agriculture, do not end up with the biggest harvest. some soils are just more healthy than others while some people's hands are plain lucky or blessed. between the time of planting and the time of germination, we as farmers play the most minimal part in the functionality of germination. and this is where the God factor comes in. we can only hope and pray the good seeds we put in the ground germinate. I think we should come to that point where we admit that our technical "know-how" contributes at best, 35% to the output result. It really pays to be humble in agriculture in order to learn more and see more

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Re: Practical Farmers Pls Share Ur Bitter Experience, Let Learn From Your Mistakes. by Soloxam(m): 7:14pm On Jan 03, 2015
jasper7:
I have made 2 major mistakes in farming. The first was the costly assumption that I know it all or I've seen it all. this mistake has cost me so much in the past and it's part of the things I have been trying hard to correct over the years. I have come to understand that the greatest professionals in agriculture, do not end up with the biggest harvest. some soils are just more healthy than others while some people's hands are plain lucky or blessed. between the time of planting and the time of germination, we as farmers play the most minimal part in the functionality of germination. and this is where the God factor comes in. we can only hope and pray the good seeds we put in the ground germinate. I think we should come to that point where we admit that our technical "know-how" contributes at best, 35% to the output result. It really pays to be humble in agriculture in order to learn more and see more
Bros u make sence, pls more from you.....
Re: Practical Farmers Pls Share Ur Bitter Experience, Let Learn From Your Mistakes. by webhostbiz: 11:06pm On Jan 03, 2015
Hi soloxam, how do i get the murano 2f 1 cucumber seed and how much does it cost? Thanks mate
Re: Practical Farmers Pls Share Ur Bitter Experience, Let Learn From Your Mistakes. by Soloxam(m): 8:26am On Jan 04, 2015
webhostbiz:
Hi soloxam, how do i get the murano 2f 1 cucumber seed and how much does it cost? Thanks mate
@webhostbiz, the murano 2 f1 is sold for 5500, u can check my signature my office and whatapp number is there. Also where is ur Location sir?
Re: Practical Farmers Pls Share Ur Bitter Experience, Let Learn From Your Mistakes. by webhostbiz: 1:10pm On Jan 04, 2015
Happy sunday. My location is in akure, ondo state. How many seeds does it contain? Thanks
Re: Practical Farmers Pls Share Ur Bitter Experience, Let Learn From Your Mistakes. by Soloxam(m): 4:17pm On Jan 04, 2015
webhostbiz:
Happy sunday. My location is in akure, ondo state. How many seeds does it contain? Thanks
cucumber have average seeds if 30-35 seeds per gram, murano 2 f1 is packed in 50 gram. so you have at least 1500 seeds. Thanks.
Re: Practical Farmers Pls Share Ur Bitter Experience, Let Learn From Your Mistakes. by AreaFada2: 4:49pm On Jan 04, 2015
Great thread
Re: Practical Farmers Pls Share Ur Bitter Experience, Let Learn From Your Mistakes. by Soloxam(m): 4:54pm On Jan 04, 2015
AreaFada2:
Great thread
Thanks boss, let learn from u too.
Re: Practical Farmers Pls Share Ur Bitter Experience, Let Learn From Your Mistakes. by AreaFada2: 5:22pm On Jan 04, 2015
Soloxam:
Thanks boss, let learn from u too.
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I don't have a recent experience. But a young relative planted many acres of maize. It was vastly devoured by grass-cutters/cane-rats.

I don't think he frequented the farm a lot after weeding. Around 70% was lost as they ate the pulp of the stem.

How do you guard against that?
Re: Practical Farmers Pls Share Ur Bitter Experience, Let Learn From Your Mistakes. by Soloxam(m): 5:34pm On Jan 04, 2015
AreaFada2:
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I don't have a recent experience. But a young relative planted many acres of maize. It was vastly devoured by grass-cutters/cane-rats.

I don't think he frequented the farm a lot after weeding. Around 70% was lost as they ate the pulp of the stem.

How do you guard against that?
I will advice regular weeding, The boundary shld be kept clean at least 1 metre space should be in between the farm and the nearby bush also trap should be set forget conservation in this aspect cos one sweat is at stake. God bless you.
Re: Practical Farmers Pls Share Ur Bitter Experience, Let Learn From Your Mistakes. by Soloxam(m): 5:36pm On Jan 04, 2015
Pls let keep it coming, let learn together.
Re: Practical Farmers Pls Share Ur Bitter Experience, Let Learn From Your Mistakes. by AreaFada2: 5:40pm On Jan 04, 2015
Soloxam:
I will advice regular weeding, The boundary shld be kept clean at least 1 metre space should be in between the farm and the nearby bush also trap should be set forget conservation in this aspect cos one sweat is at stake. God bless you.
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Thanks Sir.

I guess scarecrow won't work since cane-rats are mostly nocturnal.
Re: Practical Farmers Pls Share Ur Bitter Experience, Let Learn From Your Mistakes. by Soloxam(m): 5:50pm On Jan 04, 2015
AreaFada2:
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Thanks Sir.

I guess scarecrow won't work since cane-rats are mostly nocturnal.
scarecrow will be help full too at least for birds. But are you sure there are no monkey around that area? Cos them de try...
Re: Practical Farmers Pls Share Ur Bitter Experience, Let Learn From Your Mistakes. by AreaFada2: 6:08pm On Jan 04, 2015
Soloxam:
scarecrow will be help full too at least for birds. But are you sure there are no monkey around that area? Cos them de try...
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There could very well be other animals involved.

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Re: Practical Farmers Pls Share Ur Bitter Experience, Let Learn From Your Mistakes. by christian11(m): 9:16pm On Jan 04, 2015
AreaFada2:
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I don't have a recent experience. But a young relative planted many acres of maize. It was vastly devoured by grass-cutters/cane-rats.

I don't think he frequented the farm a lot after weeding. Around 70% was lost as they ate the pulp of the stem.

How do you guard against that?

I think the only ways to control grass cutters and other rodents is by using rodenticides or setting traps Scare crows work mainly for birds....
Re: Practical Farmers Pls Share Ur Bitter Experience, Let Learn From Your Mistakes. by AreaFada2: 11:47pm On Jan 04, 2015
christian11:


I think the only ways to control grass cutters and other rodents is by using rodenticides or setting traps Scare crows work mainly for birds....
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Thanx.
Re: Practical Farmers Pls Share Ur Bitter Experience, Let Learn From Your Mistakes. by Soloxam(m): 6:45am On Jan 05, 2015
christian11:


I think the only ways to control grass cutters and other rodents is by using rodenticides or setting traps Scare crows work mainly for birds....
CEO thanks for that. Could any one prescribe name for rodenticide?
Re: Practical Farmers Pls Share Ur Bitter Experience, Let Learn From Your Mistakes. by ogb5(m): 7:05pm On Jan 05, 2015
I have made some mistakes in agriculture.

I once planted maize with a Spacing of 1m by 0.5m hoping to add fertiliser to the farm. I could not get fertiliser to buy from the state govt after planting. I had to thin down by uprooting some of the plants to reduce the density. Today I rely less on government inputs

I once rented a farm for farming without inquiring if there are farmers vs cattle herders problem in the area. Few weeks after we started the farm, problem started between farmers and the fulani people. Who would have thought that fulani can be a problem to farmers in delta state. They were actually taking guns to the farm looking for farmers to kill. We had to abandon the farm for some time. And after planting fulani started using my crops to feed his cows. Very pathetic. Today as a minimum I must fence my farm with barbed wires if fulani is within the vicinity. And I always ask now if our brothers who love cattle more than human life is within the vicinity before planting anything

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Re: Practical Farmers Pls Share Ur Bitter Experience, Let Learn From Your Mistakes. by Soloxam(m): 11:11pm On Jan 05, 2015
ogb5:
I have made some mistakes in agriculture.

I once planted maize with a Spacing of 1m by 0.5m hoping to add fertiliser to the farm. I could not get fertiliser to buy from the state govt after planting. I had to thin down by uprooting some of the plants to reduce the density. Today I rely less on government inputs

I once rented a farm for farming without inquiring if there are farmers vs cattle herders problem in the area. Few weeks after we started the farm, problem started between farmers and the fulani people. Who would have thought that fulani can be a problem to farmers in delta state. They were actually taking guns to the farm looking for farmers to kill. We had to abandon the farm for some time. And after planting fulani started using my crops to feed his cows. Very pathetic. Today as a minimum I must fence my farm with barbed wires if fulani is within the vicinity. And I always ask now if our brothers who love cattle more than human life is within the vicinity before planting anything
Sorry for your lost sir, this issue of Fulani is just every where now. They have that gut....hummmmm... Similar thing happen to one of my farmer In OKAKA, after IPAPO along SAKI road, this man planted tomate of about Five acres, the tomato was fruiting almost ready for harvest, in the night cow just enter the man farm and stamp on the crops and believe me they ran away before the day break.... So painful. I think this issue of Fulani should be checked.
In some community like Iwo in osun state, the farmer have gone to police station and the DPO invite the Fulani around the area. So what they agree on was that they will pay for what so ever damaged caused by there animal. Provided the farmer could recognise or apprehend one of the cow.....

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Re: Practical Farmers Pls Share Ur Bitter Experience, Let Learn From Your Mistakes. by Soloxam(m): 11:53am On Jan 06, 2015
SOIL STERILLIZATION: the aim of STERILLIZING our soil B4 nursing our seeds is; To keep the bed free of disease, to keep it free of pest (Egg) also to keep it free from weed seeds. Haven achieve these the the sEeds will grow well and perform better at the permanent site.

MTD of STERILLIZTION:
Heat method
Hot water mTd.

HEAT METHOD: the soil is gather and put inside pot/drum, set fire on it and allow till the top surface get hot.
One can as well make a nursery beds and gather fire wood or tire on the surface and set it ablaze.

HOT WATER METHOD: the soil will be gather as above, boil water and pure it on the soil, allow to cool and plant on it.

The main essence of all these is to put the above mention enemies (pest,disease,and weed) to check, because these organism can not survive/withstand high temperature, So by so doing they will be control and will have no effects on our young seedly.

Others should please come out with other ideas which will be helpful for all of us

Merci....

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Re: Practical Farmers Pls Share Ur Bitter Experience, Let Learn From Your Mistakes. by Soloxam(m): 12:39pm On Jan 06, 2015
Soloxam:
SOIL STERILLIZATION: the aim of STERILLIZING our soil B4 nursing our seeds is; To keep the bed free of disease, to keep it free of pest (Egg) also to keep it free from weed seeds. Haven achieve these the the sEeds will grow well and perform better at the permanent site.

MTD of STERILLIZTION:
Heat method
Hot water mTd.

HEAT METHOD: the soil is gather and put inside pot/drum, set fire on it and allow till the top surface get hot.
One can as well make a nursery beds and gather fire wood or tire on the surface and set it ablaze.

HOT WATER METHOD: the soil will be gather as above, boil water and pure it on the soil, allow to cool and plant on it.

The main essence of all these is to put the above mention enemies (pest,disease,and weed) to check, because these organism can not survive/withstand high temperature, So by so doing they will be control and will have no effects on our young seedly.

Others should please come out with other ideas which will be helpful for all of us

Merci....
You see this topic was made to let farmers knows different error/sin commented while practising farming, I just want to share my experience with the house, several time I made estimate for farmers that when u plant so quantity of seeds, it will cover so so hectares of land, and u have x as ur result, but in most cases, x is not always x if the farmer start up the project and lost almost 45-50% of their seed to either pest,diseases while @ nursery. So I will advice farmer to please follow this am sharing so that we all will be happy at the end of the day.

Many pple recommend using seed tray while nursing seed, it is the best MTD, but very expensive.. Major advantages of using tray are: to prevent transplanting shocks, mobile and easy to maintain ie it could be done in ur compound, Don't worry Am going to teach u a way to improvise at least to get 75% of the advantage gotten from trays. I also promise to teach us the way we can use herbicides on our vegetable farm, I want to upload picture for better understanding. Also pic on how I used to raised my seed beds will be uploaded soon, Thanks and God bless.
Re: Practical Farmers Pls Share Ur Bitter Experience, Let Learn From Your Mistakes. by Nobody: 12:46pm On Jan 06, 2015
Soloxam:
I will advice regular weeding, The boundary shld be kept clean at least 1 metre space should be in between the farm and the nearby bush also trap should be set forget conservation in this aspect cos one sweat is at stake. God bless you.

Another reason for keeping the boundary clean is , if by chance fire enters the surrounding farm/ bush, it wont enter your farm.

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Re: Practical Farmers Pls Share Ur Bitter Experience, Let Learn From Your Mistakes. by akanbi2k: 5:20pm On Jan 06, 2015
stagger:


I have planted cassava, sugarcane, vegetables like waterleaf, scent leaf used in peppersoup, pears (both avocado and native pear), plantain, beans and yams, etc. My plantain trees are still standing today. The palm trees became way too tall and had to be cut down to make way for new ones, having been planted in 1988. The plantain farm was started in 1987. In my mother's village I have up to 1 hectare which I bought for agricultural use, since my dad's people are too fetish and have tried to have me killed severally.

I have planted coconuts and orange trees there. These were started 10 years ago.

I do not know how old you were as at 1980 when I first handled a pickaxe and hoe to farm on one plot of land allocated to me by my school for all students of agricultural science. That was the way we learnt agric science in those days: practically, and not by theory. The day of marking, your parents would be invited to come and see where their school fees money was going. You dared not disgrace your parents in front of other parents because everyone, the whole school, would be at the field then. I have also farmed pineapples strictly for domestic use, with a species which were given to me by an Eritrean Professor of Agriculture who was on exile as at then because Mengistu Haile Mariam's government had a bounty on his head. I am sure history students will know how this man slaughtered Eritreans in their thousands before the UN gave them their own country. I was too young then so I cannot remember the name of this man or the species of pineapples.

I answer you this way because I see the sarcasm in your question, and I will not dwell much on it because trying to convince you the cucumber farmer about it is a waste of time. So I will go to the main point on this thread: mistakes we have all made.

Yes, there was a mistake I made when I did the plantains. I had never heard of black sigatoka virus, which entered Nigeria in 1986. It nearly devastated the plantation, but somehow, we recovered. Had to burn the entire plants and get new ones. I also have to mention that I nearly lost the first fruits to villagers by allowing them to ripen on trees. They would just come at night and cut them down. So I had to make myself a clean cutlass which I would use to mount vigils in the place some evenings and nights, but stopped when I noticed snakes around the place. Eventually, I started to cut them when mature, without allowing them to ripen on the tree.

Now to answer your sarcastic question: IITA gave me a lot of help in my cassava research. I even have a book on the commodity markets for cassava products in Nigeria. That publication is not available anywhere on the open market. Nasarawa state ADP gave me a video documentary on application of herbicides for weed control. I have got quotes for cassava processing machines from PRODA in Enugu.

The way you approach these organizations will determine how they give you what you need. I will not say more.


Thanks for this expose. I fell victim to terrible counsel on my 7ha farm in 2014. I lost tons of money but i am willing to forge ahead. I believe in chemicalisation to reduce cost. How can you help with information from these agencies, I need good counsel this year. Planting season is in 2 months,how can you help?
Re: Practical Farmers Pls Share Ur Bitter Experience, Let Learn From Your Mistakes. by Soloxam(m): 6:41pm On Jan 06, 2015
mercylicious:


Another reason for keeping the boundary clean is , if by chance fire enters the surrounding farm/ bush, it wont enter your farm.
Yes u are very correct maa, thanks for ur contribution.... Also how are u resolving the issue of monkey in your farm?
Re: Practical Farmers Pls Share Ur Bitter Experience, Let Learn From Your Mistakes. by jasper7(m): 7:05pm On Jan 06, 2015
it's interesting that we make so many rookie errors in agriculture. I love to see myself as a rookie. some years back when I was running a big poultry farm in my house. it was a farm of very interesting boilers. I wanted to start packaging at 1KG and start distributing to hotels around my area. because I was already supplying them fish at that time. I spent alot of money building pens for them. It's actually a long story, but bottomline was that I ran into crisis, because my cost of production was by far higher than my sale price so I was running on a perpetual loss. I consulted a "professional farmer" on Nairaland. told him my problems and he proffered solutions. Do you know I took his words hook, line and sinker. because of the way he boasted here of the millions he has made from broilers. His "solution" put me into a bigger mess. till today, am still angry about the whole experience. it left a bitter taste in my mouth.

well, as it turns out. the so called professional, had no idea of what he was talking about. am not even sure he knows what a chicken looks like. because the advice he gave me, when I consulted experienced farmers, they said that all the things the guy told me are rubbish. on paper, it looks good. but practically, it's not feasible. that's when I discovered that the young man I have been hailing as a professional is actually an internet farmer, hungry to sell e-book. That's when I discovered that the real farmers don't have time to write e-book, because they are too busy developing virgin lands and breaking new grounds.

same applies, think about it. how many dangote's, adenuga's, bill gates or Carlos slim's of this world have written books on how to be a billionaire or how to run a successful business. None! who writes those books? poor men, who use those books to become billionaires. Look at Robert Kiyosaki (author of Rich Dad, Poor Dad). you'd be surprised that he declared bankruptcy about 3 years ago. but he's the biggest consultant on wealth in the world. How?

Put your mind to reason. if you want to learn about something. go to those who have succeeded in that thing abd observe them. do your own research and you are good to go.

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Re: Practical Farmers Pls Share Ur Bitter Experience, Let Learn From Your Mistakes. by jasper7(m): 7:16pm On Jan 06, 2015
sorry for my long epistle. the reason I wrote something this long is because I want to call people to reason. and see the errors in their ways. The 2 strong lessons I learnt from my poultry experience is that.

Never start any agribusiness you don't understand and have not practised. Even if you must do it, start small. Trust me, the best approach to the pool of farming is to dip your toe in first.
see why, if you fail in a big business, you are a big failure. if you succeed, you are a success.

secondly, before you implement anything anybody online tells you in your farm. pls verify the information from other experienced farmers. also verify the authenticity, and credibility of the farmer. Thanks
Re: Practical Farmers Pls Share Ur Bitter Experience, Let Learn From Your Mistakes. by jethro2: 7:17pm On Jan 06, 2015
Wooooww.
You are the bomb.
Thanks so much for putting this in writting.
You nail it on the head
jasper7:
it's interesting that we make so many rookie errors in agriculture. I love to see myself as a rookie. some years back when I was running a big poultry farm in my house. it was a farm of very interesting boilers. I wanted to start packaging at 1KG and start distributing to hotels around my area. because I was already supplying them fish at that time. I spent alot of money building pens for them. It's actually a long story, but bottomline was that I ran into crisis, because my cost of production was by far higher than my sale price so I was running on a perpetual loss. I consulted a "professional farmer" on Nairaland. told him my problems and he proffered solutions. Do you know I took his words hook, line and sinker. because of the way he boasted here of the millions he has made from broilers. His "solution" put me into a bigger mess. till today, am still angry about the whole experience. it left a bitter taste in my mouth.
well, as it turns out. the so called professional, had no idea of what he was talking about. am not even sure he knows what a chicken looks like. because the advice he gave me, when I consulted experienced farmers, they said that all the things the guy told me are rubbish. on paper, it looks good. but practically, it's not feasible. that's when I discovered that the young man I have been hailing as a professional is actually an internet farmer, hungry to sell e-book. That's when I discovered that the real farmers don't have time to write e-book, because they are too busy developing virgin lands and breaking new grounds.
same applies, think about it. how many dangote's, adenuga's, bill gates or Carlos slim's of this world have written books on how to be a billionaire or how to run a successful business. None! who writes those books? poor men, who use those books to become billionaires. Look at Robert Kiyosaki (author of Rich Dad, Poor Dad). you'd be surprised that he declared bankruptcy about 3 years ago. but he's the biggest consultant on wealth in the world. How?
Put your mind to reason. if you want to learn about something. go to those who have succeeded in that thing abd observe them. do your own research and you are good to go.

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Re: Practical Farmers Pls Share Ur Bitter Experience, Let Learn From Your Mistakes. by Soloxam(m): 7:25pm On Jan 06, 2015
jasper7:
sorry for my long epistle. the reason I wrote something this long is because I want to call people to reason. and see the errors in their ways. The 2 strong lessons I learnt from my poultry experience is that.

Never start any agribusiness you don't understand and have not practised. Even if you must do it, start small. Trust me, the best approach to the pool of farming is to dip your toe in first.
see why, if you fail in a big business, you are a big failure. if you succeed, you are a success.

secondly, before you implement anything anybody online tells you in your farm. pls verify the information from other experienced farmers. also verify the authenticity, and credibility of the farmer. Thanks
Welcome boss Good points.

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