This is a fast moving thread. My. . .my . . . my! Let's see. . .

So if we go back to the beginning of Lagos, it was founded on Islam right?

Yes and No.

Before it became a protectorate it was Islam and native religion. The Christians were expatriate minorities - potogi (Portugese). Lagos was ceded to the British around 1852. Beyond that and with gradual missionary works (CMS - Christian Missionary Service) Christianity grew, especially with their schools. The missionaries did not allow muslim children in school unless they would first convert to Christian faith or change name and adopt a christian name.

Is Sharia evil?

NO, but as humans we generally are fearful and suspicious of the unknown. If people would take time to read Sharia law instead of going by newsfeed they will appreciate it and come to the realization that Sharia was often referenced and quoted by many of the freethinkers of the early Western culture and was at a time when they were undergoing political struggles and tyranny and needed to break free of the limitations imposed by their tyrannical Monarchs. If you study the United States Constitution and if you are very intimate with the Sharia laws you will notice the close similarity in the injunctions. The laws are older than the constitution, so it couldn't have been modeled after the latter but inversely, the latter was a model for the constitution writers.

The problem is not Sharia, the laws are adequate. The humans that interprete and practice them with an agenda to manipulate and control people and divide society are weird and forsaken.

Going by the name calling and attacks and counter-attacks and venom that are let loose on this thread, I will say their agenda is working effectively.

Negro_Ntns:

This is a fast moving thread. Mymy . . . my! Let's see. . .
Yes and No.

Before it became a protectorate it was Islam and native religion. The Christians were expatriate minorities - potogi (Portugese). Lagos was ceded to the British around 1852. Beyond that and with gradual missionary works (CMS - Christian Missionary Service) Christianity grew, especially with their schools. The missionaries did not allow muslim children in school unless they would first convert to Christian faith or change name and adopt a christian name.



NO, but as humans we generally are fearful and suspicious of the unknown. If people would take time to read Sharia law instead of going by newsfeed they will appreciate it and come to the realization that Sharia was often referenced and quoted by many of the freethinkers of the early Western culture and was at a time when they were undergoing political struggles and tyranny and needed to break free of the limitations imposed by their tyrannical Monarchs. If you study the United States Constitution and if you are very intimate with the Sharia laws you will notice the close similarity in the injunctions. The laws are older than the constitution, so it couldn't have been modeled after the latter but inversely, the latter was a model for the constitution writers.

The problem is not Sharia, the laws are adequate. The humans that interprete and practice them with an agenda to manipulate and control people and divide society are weird and forsaken.

Going by the name calling and attacks and counter-attacks and venom that are let loose on this thread, I will say their agenda is working effectively.

Hard to believe there are still landers this objective.

Sharia IS NOT EVIL, it is simply outdated, giving room to manipulation by corrupt leaders.

@ Negro_nts

Thanks for the contribution and a very matured one.

This is exactly what I have been saying. Get to read the Sharia in its totality and not just the penal code and you would appreciate its unprecedented social justice that many western nations now tend to adopt in its social welfarism and benefits.

@yemmyse
The law is not outdated, on the contrary it is ever dynamic and been incorporated in the WEST. It is just ur perception of the penal code.

Sharia financial system is practiced in many muslim countries today and even in the west. HSBC in the uk has a shariah compliant banking system called amanah banking. Lloyds Tsb has its own shariah compliant banking. The FSA in the UK regulates these banks and there is also Islamic bank of Britain. There several non muslims who use this banks in the UK because of their preference for the ethical banking Islam provides.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6168800.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5074068.stm

Shariah Social welfare system: This involves the collection of zakat and distributed to the lower income or unemployed in the society. This zakat is 2.5% of your fixed assets per anum. This is exactly what is been done in western countries today in the form of council benefits, income support etc. The muslims have been practising this when westerners were still in stone age. This is shariah!!!

In the west there are many anti social problems. Alcohol and drugs is a menace in the west and politicians have been looking for ways to tackle this problem. Even it was banned in the US in the 20s I think but it did not work out. Shariah has a solution to this problem.

Women under shariah: A woman has a right to keep her fathers name after marriage, allowed to keep all her income and her husband must cater for her, has a right to a maid in the house and lots more. A woman has several rights in Islam and they are protected against lots of injustice by the shariah. It is the culture of many society that influences some bad treatment to women and NOT ISLAM. E.g A woman can drive in islam but it’s the tradition and cultural conservativeness of the Saudi than frowns at it and NOT islam. Thousands of western and Latino women have embraced Islam in the west because they see it as a form of liberation for them.

This is just a brief insight into some aspects of the Shariah

ONLY IF U FOLKS COULD TAKE TIME TO STUDY SHARIAH LAW IN ITS WHOLE FORM. Dr Roman Williams the head of the Anglican church studied it and sees no problem accommodating many aspect of it in the UK judicial system!!!! The head of Church of Scotland said the same thing.

These are objective and intelligent intellectuals not Nigerian people here bursting out with emotions and deep rooted hate.

@ osisi and david

Removing Oil from these countries will not make them become like other Poor Nations. Because they have developed their Nation, they have very good Infrastructures, they have made everything for their country. Their Oil will take Hundreds of Years before it finish.

By the way, Osisi or David, who is going to remove the Oil from their lands?

ISLAM is the LIGHT, ISLAM is the WAY

auwal87:

@ osisi and david

Removing Oil from these countries will not make them become like other Poor Nations. Because they have developed their Nation, they have very good Infrastructures, they have made everything for their country. Their Oil will take Hundreds of Years before it finish.

By the way, Osisi or David, who is going to remove the Oil from their lands?

ISLAM is the LIGHT, ISLAM is the WAY

kwarai mutumi na. Islam is the way!

Lammie01, Auwal87 and Muza, Good job here. Proud of you.

Sharia is ingrained in Nigerian constitution. Muslim communities across the nation practice Sharia, in different degrees. I remember when I was a little boy, the civil courts (The court of the natives) is for all intent and purposes amongst the Muslims is sharia court.

Unfortunately, it is the lack of knowledge and commitment and sincerity that has brought about an unnoticeable impact of this system on the community. For example, a society that allows a man to be unjust to his wife. And does not allow the woman to devorce this evil husband by simply returning his dowry. And the society which does nothing when a man has more than 4 wives at anytime. The impact of Sharia can not be noticed in such society.

And I have not spoken about, theift, adultery, and other ills including bad business dealings. How can Sharia be a benefit, unless the muslims themselves change! Where in Nigeria, I mean those who are presently practicing Sharia is the beauty of the system showing? All the lawlessness and the killing of the hudlooms, and petty thieves, an street thugs known as Almanjiri, who have soiled the beautiful name, Al Muhajirin, the first set of person who emigrated from Makka to Madina to escape persecution, are bow the people who are persecuting people in NIgeria.

Do these people know that Islam commands both religious and secular knowledge on the true worshippers? The burden of enacting of Sharia, isnot just a lip service. But a very heavy commitment. The Madina community under Muhammad (AS) should be the best example, because it has complete protection for every citizen, to do all that is good and progressive.

The only thing I like about sharia actually is the cutting off of the hands of the muslims
They need to do that one more often that way,when the troubles start in the north,we'll be dealing with one handed almajiris
let's see how they'll wield their machetes with one hand

auwal87:

@ osisi and david

Removing Oil from these countries will not make them become like other Poor Nations. Because they have developed their Nation, they have very good Infrastructures, they have made everything for their country. Their Oil will take Hundreds of Years before it finish.

By the way, Osisi or David, who is going to remove the Oil from their lands?

ISLAM is the LIGHT, ISLAM is the WAY

It's quite a daunting task attempting to reason with you.
I ask you again ,is the land prosperous because of Islam or because it has oil?
If the answer is Islam,how about Bangladesh with 99% muslims?

osisi*:

It's quite a daunting task attempting to reason with you.
I ask you again ,is the land prosperous because of Islam or because it has oil?
If the answer is Islam,how about Bangladesh with 99% muslims?

don't expect a rational answer.

My guess is LagosBoy is the same as Lammie01 . . . quite a coward that boy is.

That's by the way . . .

Negro_Ntns:

Before it became a protectorate it was Islam and native religion. The Christians were expatriate minorities - potogi (Portugese). Lagos was ceded to the British around 1852. Beyond that and with gradual missionary works (CMS - Christian Missionary Service) Christianity grew, especially with their schools. The missionaries did not allow muslim children in school unless they would first convert to Christian faith or change name and adopt a christian name.

Islam? Really? How did islam cross the Niger?

The fact that christianity is the most prevalent religion in the south goes against the grain of the fact that in countries where islam arrived first . . . christianity has not thrived.

please give us a concrete source or else this will be regarded as another bold faced lie.

@Davidylan

What a guess!!! and how wrong u are? u better go dig out the person and sort out ur issues with Lagosboy

lammie01:

@Davidylan

What a guess!!! and how wrong u are? u better go dig out the person and sort out ur issues with Lagosboy

On what basis?
There's nothing to sort out . . . whoever YOU are our lives moved in opposite trajectories 11 yrs ago and i'd prefer it to stay that way.