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Why Do "Born Again" Christians Still Commit Sin? by jayloyexten(m): 1:21pm On Jan 02, 2015
Please this is very important, I urge you read it, it changed my thinking about the sin ish.


VICTORY OVER SIN

“For we are saved by hope, but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth why doth he yet hope for?” Romans 8:24

A lot of persons are crying in their closest, “Lord I have given my life to you, why does sin still have dominion over me. But they are shy to say it, because the last time they went to church their pastor preached that “Once you are born again, the power of sin instantly dies” and likewise a lot of Christian live in condemnation.

The question then is, what is the problem with the gospel of salvation that we heard? We see it in teachings but not in practice. Is it that the blood of Christ that was shed 2000 years ago has expired and can no longer save from sin? Did Jesus really die?

We hear that sin is defeated at salvation, but peter was born again, yet he denied Christ, Paul spoke rashly to an elder, and peter in Galatians 2 was caught in hypocrisy. And so Paul said to him if I build again the things which I destroyed I make myself a transgressor.

What really is salvation and how do we lose it? Let me make it clear, Jesus can save us from sin, and his blood never expires even after 2000 years. But there is one enemy of salvation, and that is the flesh.

Let us examine what we were taught about salvation. 1 John 5:18 says “He that is born of God does not commit sin” What is written there is not “he that is born again” or he that said “Jesus come into my life”, it is clear, it reads “He that is born of God”

Another surprising thing is that John 1:12 says that “But as many that received him…to them he gave power to become sons of God” better put, to them he gave power to become “born of God” so at salvation we are given the power to become sons of God, not necessarily that we are sons of God.

The question then is, how can we become “born of God?” We are considered dead until we become born of God.

Remember that John 3:16 says that “For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whosoever believes on him shall not perish but have everlasting LIFE” Also remember that when Adam and Eve fell, they lost eternal LIFE. And so Jesus died, and the Bible says that he became the first born, and we are sons. So Jesus came to give us eternal LIFE, through sonship. So to enter into heaven we must be “born of God”. Now that LIFE of sonship that qualifies us for heaven can only be attained by one means. See below

Romans 8: 6 says, “For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is LIFE and peace” Hence the equation has been solved to be born of God is to be spiritually minded.

Now victory over sin comes by being spiritually minded and not just born again, those are the people that cannot sin, because they are not of the flesh. What it means is that sin becomes repulsive to them, not that they are completely immune to sin, or if they sin it would not be counted against them.

And so the Bible says in Romans 12, “be ye transformed (into sons of God) by the renewing of your mind” so you can truly overcome the works of the flesh. Our mind is renewed by the word of God.
Now you see why you may still sin even after salvation, because the spirit and the flesh are in constant contention. But from today’s text, we are saved by hope, and everything we hope for may not be seen at the moment. But the power over sin has been given you.

You must refuse to let your failures deter you; if you fall today you will not fall tomorrow. Let your faith be strong in Gods saving grace. Run back to God, it does not mean you are not born again.(1 John 2:1) Be transformed to become born of God by reading the word and walking by the spirit, giving no room for the flesh. In this generation you need the infilling of the Holy Spirit

You cannot say that you have been delivered from the spirit of masturbation and you are still watching pornography! It will come back. Give no room for the flesh!

Romans 8:23 says, Paul speaking, “…Even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption to wit (to become born of God), the redemption of our body”

Salvation is faith. It is not giving excuses for sin; it is the hope that sin is defeated, even if it does not yet appear. But we know that once hope is perfected in us, then we are made perfect. This is the pressing into perfection called sanctification; the total defeat of the flesh.


With love,
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Re: Why Do "Born Again" Christians Still Commit Sin? by zeb04(f): 1:31pm On Jan 02, 2015
@jayloyexten I read your message but I got lost a litl please can you just tell me in two sentence what its all about,I am intrested.thank you.

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Re: Why Do "Born Again" Christians Still Commit Sin? by Nobody: 1:34pm On Jan 02, 2015
I have adressed this issue over and over again. There is nothing like born again Christains!!!

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Re: Why Do "Born Again" Christians Still Commit Sin? by oluwakekz(m): 1:34pm On Jan 02, 2015
we are only save by grace,as long as you in this word ,grace is all we all need. You think you holly? Prove that, then you really are.

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Re: Why Do "Born Again" Christians Still Commit Sin? by oluwakekz(m): 1:34pm On Jan 02, 2015
we are only save by grace,as long as you in this word ,grace is all we need. You think you holly? Prove that, then you really are.
Re: Why Do "Born Again" Christians Still Commit Sin? by jayloyexten(m): 1:35pm On Jan 02, 2015
zeb04:
@jayloyexten I read your message but I got lost a litl please can you just tell me in two sentence what its all about,I am intrested.thank you.

I'm sorry you got lost, but where did you get lost?

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Re: Why Do "Born Again" Christians Still Commit Sin? by zeb04(f): 1:39pm On Jan 02, 2015
jayloyexten:


I'm sorry you got lost, but where did you get lost?
are you saying a born again is different from a christian

Can a born again sin?

What makes a born again different from a christian?

I am sorry if I am mixing it all up.

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Re: Why Do "Born Again" Christians Still Commit Sin? by jayloyexten(m): 1:49pm On Jan 02, 2015
zeb04:
are you saying a born again is different from a christian

Can a born again sin?

What makes a born again different from a christian?

I am sorry if I am mixing it all up.


A born again Christian can still sin. Yes.
The victory over sin is walking by the spirit, it is hope and faith. And our walk is perfected by reading the word constantly, then we can overcome the flesh.

I advice you read it again dear or send me a message on whatsapp.

Thank you.

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Re: Why Do "Born Again" Christians Still Commit Sin? by zeb04(f): 1:56pm On Jan 02, 2015
jayloyexten:



A born again Christian can still sin. Yes.
The victory over sin is walking by the spirit, it is hope and faith. And our walk is perfected by reading the word constantly, then we can overcome the flesh.

I advice you read it again dear or send me a message on whatsapp.

Thank you.
its alright,I got your message this time. God bless
Re: Why Do "Born Again" Christians Still Commit Sin? by chefremy(m): 3:04pm On Jan 02, 2015
it's simple...Because they are not perfect.

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Re: Why Do "Born Again" Christians Still Commit Sin? by ayoku777(m): 7:13pm On Jan 02, 2015
starlingleanets:
I have adressed this issue over and over again. There is nothing like born again Christains!!!

Funny but true. Even though its now a commonly used expression, "born-again christian" is a faulty repetition.

You are not a christian if you're not born again. So 'Are you a christian?' means the same thing as 'Are you born again?'. There is no 'unborn again christian'.

Another word we get wrong like that is "night vigil". That is also a faulty repetition. Staying awake at night is already a 'vigil'. So there is really nothing like night vigil.

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Re: Why Do "Born Again" Christians Still Commit Sin? by Nobody: 7:19pm On Jan 02, 2015
ayoku777:


Funny but true. Even though its now a commonly used expression, "born-again christian" is a faulty repetition.

You are not a christian if you're not born again. So 'Are you a christian?' means the same thing as 'Are you born again?'. There is no 'unborn again christian'.

Another word we get wrong like that is "night vigil". That is also a faulty repetition. Staying awake at night is already a 'vigil'. So there is really nothing like night vigil.
Bro it tire me oo

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Re: Why Do "Born Again" Christians Still Commit Sin? by Goshen360(m): 7:28pm On Jan 02, 2015
The reason Christians still sin is simple - we still carry the residue of the old nature, that is, the flesh in our human nature.

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Re: Why Do "Born Again" Christians Still Commit Sin? by Nobody: 7:48pm On Jan 02, 2015
Goshen360:
The reason Christians still sin is simple - we still carry the residue of the old nature, that is, the flesh in our human nature.
Hell No! To ur hypothesis of no substantial proof in d scripture. Jesus lives in this flesh and was sinless!!! Its better not to talk than to say something that will accuse u on the Last day.

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Re: Why Do "Born Again" Christians Still Commit Sin? by Goshen360(m): 8:07pm On Jan 02, 2015
starlingleanets:
Hell No! To ur hypothesis of no substantial proof in d scripture. Jesus lives in this flesh and was sinless!!! Its better not to talk than to say something that will accuse u on the Last day.

1. Do you think the divine nature in Christ is the same as divine nature in us even though we both live in the flesh?
2. Since you became a Christian, and you are of divine nature, have you sinned? Did you sin today and will you sin tomorrow?

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Re: Why Do "Born Again" Christians Still Commit Sin? by Nobody: 8:15pm On Jan 02, 2015
Goshen360:


1. Do you think the divine nature in Christ is the same as divine nature in us even though we both live in the flesh?
2. Since you became a Christian, and you are of divine nature, have you sinned? Did you sin today and will you sin tomorrow?
1. Jesus Christ is the same yesterday,today and forevermore.
2. Who shall bring a charge against God elect?

Brother,i'm just warning u of the danger ur tongue can put u to. The Bible says "For sin no longer have dominion over you" That means u have the Power to say No to sin! Your flesh no longer have dominion You have the Power to say No to sin!! Old things have passed away,ur old human nature is gone You have the Power to say No to sin!!! But If you as a Christain still commit sin deliberately despite the Holy Spirit speaking loudly to u don't do it,Then there no longer remain a sacrife for sin but the Wrath of God.
Look at me bro, don't come here and say wat pentecostals teach in church about the concept of born again and human nature rather study to show urself approve so u won't be tossed to and fro by every wind of doctrines.

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Re: Why Do "Born Again" Christians Still Commit Sin? by jayloyexten(m): 11:05am On Jan 03, 2015
I appreciate everyone for commenting. And those that didn't, I still appreciate you. Those who believe they have the accurate understanding of the word shared should not hesitate to share with others. And cure this sickness in the body of Christ.

with love.

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Re: Why Do "Born Again" Christians Still Commit Sin? by twosquare: 11:45am On Jan 03, 2015
Born-again can still sin. Their spirit is sinless and has become CHRIST but their soul needs to come to the pedigree&status the spirit attained at new birth. By the obedience to Truth, sin will be dealt with totally. Sin is beyond works of the flesh and there are somethings that are good to us but are sin to Him. Getting born-again is just the beginning, like a student just getting admission to the university. Sin we have to be removed totally(which already has) but the consciousness of you conforming to that which has already been done in CHRIST will take the operation of the sprinkling of the blood and constant washing.

A born again is simply someone who has given his life to Christ. The epistles which are the materials for saving the soul of every born-again(believers) were written to those who are already born-again, not to those who doesn't know CHRIST. Yet they're still rebuked by the Apostles for certain sins or the other and urged to move onward to perfection; casting away the works of darkness.

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Re: Why Do "Born Again" Christians Still Commit Sin? by oaroloye(m): 8:40pm On Sep 03, 2016
SHALOM!

jayloyexten:
Please this is very important, I urge you read it, it changed my thinking about the sin ish.

So this is not even original?

You should have been able to improve on anyone else's Message.

Clearly, that is beyond you- that's too bad. But providing the Remedy to such problems is my job.

VICTORY OVER SIN

“For we are saved by hope, but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth why doth he yet hope for?” Romans 8:24

As soon as I saw what this Nutter opened with, I knew that there is no way that he knows what he is talking about.

It is going to be a crock.

. ROMANS 7:14-25.

14. For we know
that the Law is spiritual:
but I am Carnal,
sold under sin.
15. For that which I do I allow not:
for what I would, that do I not;
but what I hate, that do I.
16. If then I do that which I would not,
I consent unto the Law that it is Good.
17. Now then it is no more I that do it,
but Sin that dwelleth in me.
18. For I know that in me
[that is, in my Flesh,]
dwelleth no good thing:
for to will is present with me;
but how to perform that which is Good
I find not.
19. For the Good that I would I do not:
but the Evil which I would not,
that I do.
20. Now if I do that I would not,
it is no more I that do it,
but Sin that dwelleth in me.
21. I find then a Law, that,
when I would do Good,
Evil is present with me.
22. For I delight in the Law of God
after the Inward Man:
23. But I see another Law in my Members,
warring against the Law of my Mind,
and bringing me into Captivity to the Law of Sin
which is in my Members.
24. O wretched man that I am!
Who shall deliver me
from the Body of this Death?
25. I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
So then with the Mind
I myself serve The Law of God;
but with the Flesh The Law of Sin.


PAUL WAS A LIAR, AND EASILY THE MOST EVIL MAN IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD.

He deliberately destroyed THE GOSPEL by hunting down all of the Jewish Brethren who had seen Yahshua after his Resurrection, bringing them bound to Jerusalem, to face the choice of agreeing to SHUT UP about Yahshua's Teachings, FOR EVER- or else DIE IMMEDIATELY.

Some of them picked "DIE IMMEDIATELY, PLEASE!"

. ACTS 26:8-11.

8. "Why should it be thought a thing incredible with you,
that God should raise the dead?
9. "I verily thought with myself,
that I ought to do many things contrary
to the Name of Jesus of Nazareth.
10. "Which thing I also did in Jerusalem:
and many of the Saints did I shut up in prison,
having received authority from the Chief Priests;
and when they were put to death,
I gave my voice against them.
11. "And I punished them oft in every synagogue,
and compelled them to blaspheme;
and being exceedingly mad against them,
I persecuted them even unto strange cities."


I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT HOW IT WAS FOR THOSE BRETHREN.

They did nothing wrong.

Then along came this... freak, and beat them in the Synagogues, and tied them like ANIMALS, and brought them to Jerusalem, to be KILLED.

I want to to THINK about this... bastard, who was PAID-IN-FULL for EVERY Christian whom he delivered.

I want you to THINK about how he LAUGHED, as he ENJOYED the PROCEEDS of his WICKEDNESS.

. MATTHEW 23:27-33.

27. "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!
for ye are like unto whited sepulchres,
which indeed appear beautiful outward,
but are within full of dead men's bones,
and of all uncleanness.
28. "Even so ye also outwardly appear Righteous unto men,
but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.
29. "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!
because ye build the tombs of the Prophets,
and garnish the sepulchres of the Righteous,
30. "And say,


'IF WE HAD BEEN
IN THE DAYS OF OUR FATHERS,
WE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN
PARTAKERS WITH THEM
IN THE BLOOD OF THE PROPHETS.'


31. "Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves,
that ye are the Children of them which killed the Prophets.
32. "Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.
33. "Ye Serpents, ye Generation of Vipers,
how can ye escape The Damnation of Hell?"


WHAT NOBODY IS TELLING US ABOUT THE PHARISEES, IS THAT THEY MADE A PROFESSION OF ACCUSING FELLOW ISRAELITES OF SIN, AND, IF THEY COULD FIND THEM GUILTY, EXECUTING THEM, THEN SHARING THE STUFF OF THE DECEASED.

The WIDOW of the "Enemy-of-the-State" would be informed that she no longer had her husband's property- and they would VERY PRAYERFULLY, AND PIOUSLY, TAKE THE PROPERTY FROM HER.

That is why Yahshua said that they were FULL of Wickedness!

Where was NO ROOM to INSERT more Wickedness into them!

These people were CRAZY with COVETOUSNESS.

The wish to acquire other people's Property was their motivation.

That was PAUL'S motivation, when he hunted down The first Disciples.

Then he had the temerity to say:

"THE LAW DID THAT TO ME!"

Damn LIAR!

. NUMBERS 15:27-31.

27. "And if any soul sin through ignorance,
then he shall bring a she goat of the first year for a sin offering.
28. "And the Priest shall make an Atonement
for the soul that sinneth ignorantly,
when he sinneth by ignorance before The LORD,
to make an Atonement for him; and it shall be forgiven him.
29. "Ye shall have One Law for him
that sinneth through ignorance,
both for him that is born among The Children of Israel,
and for the Stranger that sojourneth among them.
30. "But the soul that doeth ought presumptuously,
whether he be born in the Land, or a Stranger,
the same reproacheth The LORD;
and that soul shall be cut off from among his people.
31. "Because he hath Despised The Word of The LORD,
and hath Broken His Commandment,
that soul shall utterly be cut off;
his iniquity shall be upon him."


HE SINNED BECAUSE HE DESPISED THE WORD OF THE LAW.

What else do you want to say about it?

. MARK 7:5-13.

5. Then the Pharisees and scribes asked him,
"Why walk not thy Disciples
according to the Tradition of the Elders,
but eat bread with unwashen hands?"
6. He answered and said unto them,
"Well hath Esaias prophesied of you
hypocrites, as it is written,


'THIS PEOPLE HONOURETH ME
WITH THEIR LIPS,
BUT THEIR HEART
IS FAR FROM ME.
7. 'HOWBEIT IN VAIN
DO THEY WORSHIP ME,
TEACHING FOR DOCTRINES
THE COMMANDMENTS OF MEN.'


8. "For laying aside The Commandment of God,
ye hold The Tradition of Men,
as the washing of pots and cups:
and many other such like things ye do."
9. And he said unto them,
"Full well ye reject
The Commandment of God,
that ye may keep your own Tradition.
10. "For Moses said,


'HONOUR THY FATHER AND THY MOTHER;'
AND, 'WHOSO CURSETH FATHER OR MOTHER,
LET HIM DIE THE DEATH:'


11. "But ye say,

'IF A MAN SHALL SAY
TO HIS FATHER OR MOTHER,

"IT IS CORBAN,
THAT IS TO SAY, A GIFT,
BY WHATSOEVER
THOU MIGHTEST BE
PROFITED BY ME;"

HE SHALL BE FREE.'


12. "And ye suffer him
no more to do ought
for his father or his mother;
13. "Making The Word of God
of none effect
through your Tradition,
which ye have delivered:
and many such like things do ye."
14. And when he had called
all the people unto him,
he said unto them,
"Hearken unto me
every one of you,
and understand:
15. "There is nothing from without a man,
that entering into him can defile him:
but the things which come out of him,
those are they that defile the man.
16. "If any man have ears to hear,
let him hear."
17. And when he was entered
into the house from the people,
his Disciples asked him concerning the Parable.
18. And he saith unto them,
"Are ye so without understanding also?
Do ye not perceive, that whatsoever thing
from without entereth into the man,
it cannot defile him;
19. "Because it entereth not into his heart,
but into the belly,
and goeth out into the draught,
purging all meats?"
20 And he said,
"That which cometh out of the man,
that defileth the man.
21. "For from within,
out of the heart of men,
proceed evil thoughts,
adulteries, fornications,
murders,
22. "Thefts, covetousness,
wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness,
an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness:
23. "All these evil things
come from within,
and defile the man."


YAHSHUA PRONOUNCED THE JUDGMENT OF GOD: THAT SIN COMES FROM THE HEART- NOT THE FLESH.

Your Body CANNOT act on its own. YOUR MIND must tell your body what to do.

PAUL LIED: he Sinned because he HATED God and LOVED SATAN.


. MATTHEW 6:19-24.

19. “Lay not up for yourselves Treasures upon Earth,
where moth and rust doth corrupt,
and where thieves break through and steal:
20. “But lay up for yourselves Treasures in Heaven,
where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt,
and where thieves do not break through nor steal:
21. “For where your Treasure is,
there will your heart be also.
22. "The Light of the body is the Eye:
if therefore thine Eye be single,
thy whole body shall be full of Light.
23. "But if thine eye be evil,
thy whole body shall be full of Darkness.
If therefore the Light that is in thee be Darkness,
how great is that Darkness!
24. "No man can serve two masters:
for either he will hate the one, and love the other;
or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other.
Ye cannot serve God and mammon."


PAUL SAID THAT HE SERVED TWO MASTERS- ONE WITH HIS BODY, THE OTHER WITH HIS MIND.

Yahshua said that there is no such thing.

WHOM DO YOU BELIEVE?

You have three choices- all of them had better be YAHSHUA, YAHSHUA, and YAHSHUA!

A lot of persons are crying in their closest, “Lord I have given my life to you, why does sin still have dominion over me. But they are shy to say it, because the last time they went to church their pastor preached that “Once you are born again, the power of sin instantly dies” and likewise a lot of Christian live in condemnation.

PAUL NEVER HAD VICTORY OVER SIN HIS WHOLE LIFE.

So why are you following HIM?

THAT is why you have never found the SIMPLE Solution.

The question then is, what is the problem with the gospel of salvation that we heard? We see it in teachings but not in practice. Is it that the blood of Christ that was shed 2000 years ago has expired and can no longer save from sin? Did Jesus really die?

This is mere rambling and time-wasting.

Get to THE POINT!

. JOHN 8:30-32.

30. As he spake these Words,
many believed on him.
31. Then said Jesus to those Jews
which believed on him,
"If ye continue in my Word,
then are ye my Disciples indeed;
32. "And ye shall know The Truth,
and The Truth shall make you Free."


We hear that sin is defeated at salvation,

WHOM DID YOU HEAR THAT FROM?

When you trace the Origins of Stupid Doctrines, you find that they originate in LIES.

How do you define "SALVATION?"

but peter was born again, yet he denied Christ,

THAT IS A COMPLETE LIE.

WHO told you that PETER was EVER "BORN AGAIN?"

There is NO EVIDENCE that Peter was EVER Born Again!

. LUKE 22:31-32.

31. And the Lord said,
"Simon, Simon, behold,


'SATAN HATH DESIRED TO HAVE YOU,
THAT HE MAY SIFT YOU AS WHEAT:'


32. "But I have prayed for thee,
that thy Faith fail not:
and when thou art converted,
strengthen thy Brethren."


PETER FOLLOWED YAHSHUA FOR THREE YEARS- YET, YAHSHUA TOLD HIM- HE WAS NOT YET CONVERTED.

CONVERSION is a very big deal!

Paul spoke rashly to an elder,

You must be talking about the time when PAUL pretended not to know who the High Priest was.

. ACTS 23:1-6.

AND Paul, earnestly beholding the Council, said,
“Men and Brethren, I have lived in all good conscience
before God until this day.
2. And the High Priest Ananias commanded
them that stood by him to smite him on the mouth.
3. Then said Paul unto him,
“God shall smite thee, thou whited wall:
for sittest thou to judge me after The Law,
and commandest me to be smitten
contrary to The Law?”
4. And they that stood by said,
“Revilest thou God's High Priest?”
5. Then said Paul,
“I wist not, Brethren,
that he was the High Priest:
for it is written,


'THOU SHALT NOT SPEAK EVIL
OF THE RULER OF THY PEOPLE.'


6. But when Paul perceived
that the one part were Sadducees,
and the other Pharisees,
he cried out in the council,
"Men and Brethren, I am a Pharisee,
the son of a Pharisee:
of the Hope and Resurrection of the Dead
I am called in question."


PAUL HAD GROWN UP A SON OF A PHARISEE, AND TAUGHT BY GAMALIEL.

It is UNBELIEVABLE that he no know who the High Priest was.

The High Priest, too was PRETENDING NOT TO KNOW PAUL- HIS BEST BOUNTY-HUNTER!

This Event is consistent with Paul being a Secret Undercover Agent of The Pharisees- the Sadducees not being privy to his mission.

He now gave a signal, that he was in place, and the plan was proceeding smoothly.

The Signal appears to be that he should pretend not to recognize the High Priest, as they all pretended not to know the Prophets of God- JOHN and YAHSHUA.

and peter in Galatians 2 was caught in hypocrisy. And so Paul said to him if I build again the things which I destroyed I make myself a transgressor.

This is not for Paul to say.

So because PETER had preached to some Gentiles, he could no longer sit with his Jewish Brethren again?

That was grandstanding on the part of Paul.

What really is salvation and how do we lose it? Let me make it clear, Jesus can save us from sin, and his blood never expires even after 2000 years. But there is one enemy of salvation, and that is the flesh.

SALVATION IS COMPLETE FREEDOM FROM ANY AND ALL BONDAGES AND CONTROLS: PERIOD.

MOISHE, DAVID, and YAHSHUA were the only ones in The Bible, who Taught Freedom from Sin.

MOISHE, ELIYAH, and YAHSHUA were the only ones who practiced Freedom from Sin.

Let us examine what we were taught about salvation. 1 John 5:18 says “He that is born of God does not commit sin” What is written there is not “he that is born again” or he that said “Jesus come into my life”, it is clear, it reads “He that is born of God”

"BORN AGAIN" is a North ARAMAIC IDIOM meaning to change one's Thoughts and Habits.

Nicodemus spoke Southern Aramaic, therefore he did not understand Yahshua- who chided him for calling himself a Master of people whose local idioms he did not understand- whereas he was judging his Heavenly Teachings.

[Source: GEORGE LAMSA'S John 3 footnote in the PESHITTA Bible.]

Oyinbo Ordained Preachers pretend not to know about this important correction of the GROSSLY EXAGGERATED "BORN AGAIN" DOCTRINE.

Another surprising thing is that John 1:12 says that “But as many that received him…to them he gave power to become sons of God” better put, to them he gave power to become “born of God” so at salvation we are given the power to become sons of God, not necessarily that we are sons of God.

THE APOSTLES USE THE LAW-FORBIDDEN SIN OF "CURSING THE DEAF," AND "PUTTING A STUMBLINGBLOCK BEFORE THE BLIND."

. LEVITICUS 19:14.

14. "Thou shalt not curse the deaf,
nor put a stumblingblock before the blind,
but shalt fear thy God: I am the LORD."


According to JOHN 1:12, ALL ONE SHOULD NEED TO DO in order to become a SON OF GOD is to say: "I RECEIVE YOU, JESUS!"

That IS a RECEPTION.

. THE SIX LEVELS OF EXISTENCE.

1. BELIEFS; 2. THOUGHTS; 3. WORDS; 4. PHYSICAL ACTIONS;
5. POSTULATES; 6. TOTAL UNDERSTANDING.


[See: THE FUNDAMENTALS OF THOUGHT, by L. Ron Hubbard.]

Even if we Receive Jesus only at the BELIEF level, that is still RECEPTION.

Is that enough to make one a "SON OF GOD?"

According to JOHN, "YES!"

According to YAHSHUA- who is the one supposed to bring this about, "OF COURSE NOT!"

. MATTHEW 7:12-29.

12. "Therefore all things whatsoever ye would
that men should do to you, do ye even so to them:
for this is The Law and The Prophets."
13. "Enter ye in at the Strait Gate:
for Wide is the Gate, and Broad is the Way,
that leadeth to Destruction,
and many there be which go in thereat:
14. "Because Strait is the Gate, and Narrow is The Way,
which leadeth unto Life, and few there be that find it.
15. "Beware of False Prophets,
which come to you in sheep's clothing,
but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16. "Ye shall know them by their Fruits.
Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17. "Even so every good tree bringeth forth Good Fruit;
but a corrupt tree bringeth forth Evil Fruit.
18. "A Good Tree cannot bring forth Evil Fruit,
neither can a Corrupt Tree bring forth Good Fuit.
19. "Every Tree that bringeth not forth Good Fruit
is hewn down, and cast into The Fire.
20. "Wherefore by their Fruits ye shall know them.
21. "Not every one that saith unto me, 'Lord, Lord,'
shall enter into The Kingdom of Heaven;
but he that doeth The Will of my Father
Which is in Heaven.
22. "Many will say to me in That Day,


'LORD, LORD, HAVE WE NOT
PROPHESIED IN THY NAME?
AND IN THY NAME
HAVE CAST OUT DEVILS?
AND IN THY NAME
DONE MANY WONDERFUL WORKS?'


23. "And then will I profess unto them,

'I NEVER KNEW YOU:
DEPART FROM ME,
YE THAT WORK INIQUITY.'


24. "Therefore whosoever heareth
these Sayings of mine, and doeth them,
I will liken him unto a Wise Man,
which built his House upon a Rock:
25. "And the rain descended, and the floods came,
and the winds blew, and beat upon that House;
and it Fell not: for it was founded upon a Rock.
26. "And every one that heareth
these Sayings of mine, and doeth them not,
shall be likened unto a Foolish Man,
which built his house upon the Sand:
27. "And the rain descended, and the floods came,
and the winds blew, and beat upon that House;
and it Fell: and Great was The Fall of it."
28. And it came to pass,
when Jesus had ended these Sayings,
the People were astonished at his Doctrine:
29. For he Taught them as One having Authority,
and not as the scribes.


IF WE HAVE NOT IMPLEMENTED YAHSHUA'S TEACHINGS AT THE PHYSICAL ACTION LEVEL, THEN WE HAVE NOTHING!

This is what I have consistently taught for DECADES.

Yet I have met NOTHING but STUBBORN RESISTANCE!

FOR TELLING PEOPLE THE TRUTH!

FOR TELLING PEOPLE WHAT WORKS!

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Re: Why Do "Born Again" Christians Still Commit Sin? by veekid(m): 7:14am On Sep 04, 2016
These guys would just turn front-page to church
Re: Why Do "Born Again" Christians Still Commit Sin? by Sermwell(m): 7:14am On Sep 04, 2016
Because they were not really born again grin
Re: Why Do "Born Again" Christians Still Commit Sin? by Nobody: 7:15am On Sep 04, 2016
Because they are using the name " born again" as a camouflage..
Re: Why Do "Born Again" Christians Still Commit Sin? by AlphaCentaurii: 7:16am On Sep 04, 2016
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Re: Why Do "Born Again" Christians Still Commit Sin? by IMASTEX: 7:17am On Sep 04, 2016
Ask Adam and Eve, Abraham, Moses, Peter, David, Paul "who agreed to be the worse sinner", etc. Been born again doesn't totally prevent you from making mistakes "sin". Rather, it is for you not to see wrong doings "sin " as an habitual way of living. And to ask for mercy whenever you fall foul. But if you're constantly living in sin, then you were never born again.

ABOVE ALL IT IS THE GRACE OF GOD THAT PREVAILTH TO US ALL

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Re: Why Do "Born Again" Christians Still Commit Sin? by Laredojohn(m): 7:19am On Sep 04, 2016
Hmmm 2015 post just making fp, anyways the topic nice, it takes the grace of God to be strong, the ability to sin or not to sin lies not being born again or not, there are people who are not born again, and will still not sin because they believe some things are not just morally right, it takes determination and the grace of God to stay holy and righteous

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Re: Why Do "Born Again" Christians Still Commit Sin? by canalily(m): 7:22am On Sep 04, 2016
They still want to be born again and again and again b4 Jesus go comecheesy
Re: Why Do "Born Again" Christians Still Commit Sin? by ayusco85(m): 7:23am On Sep 04, 2016
I ve been asking the same question along time
Re: Why Do "Born Again" Christians Still Commit Sin? by Nobody: 7:24am On Sep 04, 2016
Cos by grace are we saved, not by works. Lest any man should boast.
It's the Spirit of God in us that helps our weakness, if we key in to the grace provided by God's spirit, we wouldn't struggle with sin anymore

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Re: Why Do "Born Again" Christians Still Commit Sin? by UnclevicYBNL(m): 7:24am On Sep 04, 2016
Help please! This is my last assignment for the semester and it carries 30 marks Question. Discuss the importance of Global production efficiency model and general information sensing in Agroclimatology. CST 206
Re: Why Do "Born Again" Christians Still Commit Sin? by SlimBrawnie(f): 7:24am On Sep 04, 2016
Being human
Re: Why Do "Born Again" Christians Still Commit Sin? by thrillionaire(m): 7:25am On Sep 04, 2016
Well, I think its because they've not renewed their minds properly with the help of the holy spirit
Re: Why Do "Born Again" Christians Still Commit Sin? by Miles300: 7:31am On Sep 04, 2016
Temption in nigeria is the highest in the world Lol..if person no provoke u ,na to lie or hide wen u get egbese or bribe Nepa wen dem wan cut light , u can add to the list if u concur ..hahaha just kidding tho

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