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HONDA BABY Boy Engine Change V6 by hkwills(m): 7:41am On Jan 23, 2015
Pls I I need advice on my Honda Accord 2001 engine. It developed fault.and the mech opened the engine to check wat went wrong.they found out d bearing got broken and part of d camshaft was bad.
That nw I hv to buy a cramshaft and bearing put back in d engine den am Good to go.
But som advice that I shud just buy another engine on the car.
Pls I need strong advice pls
Waiting for ur strong response
Re: HONDA BABY Boy Engine Change V6 by doroboss(m): 7:54am On Jan 23, 2015
IN gazzuzz words " BUY A NEW ENGINE" grin
Re: HONDA BABY Boy Engine Change V6 by GAZZUZZ(m): 8:09am On Jan 23, 2015
Your enginne is 45-55k please get another engine.
Re: HONDA BABY Boy Engine Change V6 by hkwills(m): 10:27am On Jan 23, 2015
Thanks so much for ur advice
But any input on changing to a new engine
: like the
type of engine oil to use this time
The kind of coolant to use
The wiring of the new engine?
Re: HONDA BABY Boy Engine Change V6 by mayor2013: 11:02am On Jan 23, 2015
For a honda 5w20 is the recommended. The price of the engine is btw what Gazzuzz quoted for you. Had it priced last year. Hope it hasn't shoot up since dollar is now 201 naira shocked
Re: HONDA BABY Boy Engine Change V6 by hkwills(m): 1:42pm On Jan 23, 2015
Pls help out on this
There is an issue nw
My engine nuba for accord 2001 is
J 30
And nw they ar offering me
Engine wit J35. To buy on the car
and from d plastic ontop it looks like odessy engine
Can it work as same

Re: HONDA BABY Boy Engine Change V6 by Nobody: 2:29pm On Jan 23, 2015
I'm not sure what the differences are between the J30 and J35. Physically the J35 will bolt up to your transmission, but I have no idea what else may be different. Honda gave the engines different codes for a reason.

To make your life easier, please get the CORRECT engine for your model year. If a J30 came out, slap a J30 back in.

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Re: HONDA BABY Boy Engine Change V6 by chillex8(m): 2:59pm On Jan 23, 2015
J30 is a V6 3.0 Litre engine which comes in most honda accord, and Honda odyssey 1997-1999. There are variants of this engine.

J35 is V6, 3.5 Litre engine which comes in a Honda odyssey 1999-2001, honda pilot, acura mdx et al .

Look for a J30 engine. There is a difference in mpg for both engines.

There is no harm in using a J35 engine, tho. But anticipate lower mpg.


Personally, I'll go for the J35 engine. It churns out more hp. Up to 240hp for the highest variant..

P.S, I did a J30 transplant on my honda oddysey 2001. I got improved Mpg, and drop in power.
Re: HONDA BABY Boy Engine Change V6 by GAZZUZZ(m): 3:12pm On Jan 23, 2015
I think you should ask a honda person what to expect, I checked this link but its not very specific http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_J_engine my thoughts are that you might have to use most of your intake and exhaust parts from your old engine. Let me call up a few honda people.

Disloman, luvinghubby your help is needed.
Re: HONDA BABY Boy Engine Change V6 by chillex8(m): 3:35pm On Jan 23, 2015
GAZZUZZ:
I think you should ask a honda person what to expect, I checked this link but its not very specific http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_J_engine my thoughts are that you might have to use most of your intake and exhaust parts from your old engine. Let me call up a few honda people.

Disloman, luvinghubby your help is needed.

Just like siena said, both engines will mate to your current transmission, engine mounts, exhaust et al.

The only difference is a reduction in mpg and more hp. Considering J30 has a lower displacement than J35.

But, if he can find a J30 series engine, he should buy it.

Meanwhile, @ OP.. Why are you buying a full engine..

Half engine is cheaper. About 25-30k. Since your accessory engine parts are all good, I suppose.
Re: HONDA BABY Boy Engine Change V6 by Nobody: 4:36pm On Jan 23, 2015
The J35 may well have a 500cc advantage over the J30, and more power, but that is based upon it being run with the right ECU. The 3.0 ECU is not optimised to run the larger 3.5.

Different camshaft profiles, different injectors, fuel and ignition maps. The J35 can end up delivering less power in the Accord, due to lean running, incorrect knock control etc.

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Re: HONDA BABY Boy Engine Change V6 by disloman(m): 6:57pm On Jan 23, 2015
Siena:
I'm not sure what the differences are between the J30 and J35. Physically the J35 will bolt up to your transmission, but I have no idea what else may be different. Honda gave the engines different codes for a reason.

To make your life easier, please get the CORRECT engine for your model year. If a J30 came out, slap a J30 back in.
u right.replace d engine with d exact engine spec.
Re: HONDA BABY Boy Engine Change V6 by disloman(m): 6:59pm On Jan 23, 2015
chillex8:
J30 is a V6 3.0 Litre engine which comes in most honda accord, and Honda odyssey 1997-1999. There are variants of this engine.

J35 is V6, 3.5 Litre engine which comes in a Honda odyssey 1999-2001, honda pilot, acura mdx et al .

Look for a J30 engine. There is a difference in mpg for both engines.

There is no harm in using a J35 engine, tho. But anticipate lower mpg.


Personally, I'll go for the J35 engine. It churns out more hp. Up to 240hp for the highest variant..

P.S, I did a J30 transplant on my honda oddysey 2001. I got improved Mpg, and drop in power.
frm ur comment posted,what will b ur advice?
Re: HONDA BABY Boy Engine Change V6 by disloman(m): 7:00pm On Jan 23, 2015
Siena:
The J35 may well have a 500cc advantage over the J30, and more power, but that is based upon it being run with the right ECU. The 3.0 ECU is not optimised to run the larger 3.5.

Different camshaft profiles, different injectors, fuel and ignition maps. The J35 can end up delivering less power in the Accord, due to lean running, incorrect knock control etc.
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Re: HONDA BABY Boy Engine Change V6 by chillex8(m): 7:49pm On Jan 23, 2015
disloman:
frm ur comment posted,what will b ur advice?


I knew you would turn-up.

My trap caught you

Anyways, like I replied earlier.. He should look for a J30 engine.. But a J35 engine won't do any harm.. Only extra power and reduced mpg..

Personally, I was getting 18mpg city driving and 23mpg highway on my 2002 odyssey with factory J35 engine.

I replaced the engine with a J30 engine and guess what?

I got 19 mpg city driving and 25mpg highway.

Am sure the OP has mounted the J35 engine already, and it worked.
Re: HONDA BABY Boy Engine Change V6 by hkwills(m): 10:51pm On Jan 23, 2015
chillex8:



I knew you would turn-up.

My trap caught you

Anyways, like I replied earlier.. He should look for a J30 engine.. But a J35 engine won't do any harm.. Only extra power and reduced mpg..

Personally, I was getting 18mpg city driving and 23mpg highway on my 2002 odyssey with factory J35 engine.

I replaced the engine with a J30 engine and guess what?

I got 19 mpg city driving and 25mpg highway.

Am sure the OP has mounted the J35 engine already, and it worked.


I did nt buy d J35 engine
In search of J30 engine
Really don't want to complicate issues with the car .really want to go with d advice of gettin a compatible engine for d car
I really appreciate all ur effort of bring ideas together, and for d research u all did for me.wud keep u all posted

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Re: HONDA BABY Boy Engine Change V6 by chillex8(m): 8:51am On Jan 24, 2015
hkwills:



I did nt buy d J35 engine
In search of J30 engine
Really don't want to complicate issues with the car .really want to go with d advice of gettin a compatible engine for d car
I really appreciate all ur effort of bring ideas together, and for d research u all did for me.wud keep u all posted

You mean to say, the whole of Ladipo auto part market doesn't have J30 ?

I refuse to believe that..

Its even J35 that is scarce cos its more expensive that J30.
Re: HONDA BABY Boy Engine Change V6 by disloman(m): 6:32pm On Jan 24, 2015
chillex8:



I knew you would turn-up.

My trap caught you

Anyways, like I replied earlier.. He should look for a J30 engine.. But a J35 engine won't do any harm.. Only extra power and reduced mpg..

Personally, I was getting 18mpg city driving and 23mpg highway on my 2002 odyssey with factory J35 engine.

I replaced the engine with a J30 engine and guess what?

I got 19 mpg city driving and 25mpg highway.

Am sure the OP has mounted the J35 engine already, and it worked.
check what u wrote n see how they relate.Where were u trained?
Re: HONDA BABY Boy Engine Change V6 by chillex8(m): 7:29pm On Jan 24, 2015
disloman:
check what u wrote n see how they relate.Where were u trained?

Lol...

THIS-LOW-MAN

This is what I have done. And it worked years after.

Even on honda forum, forumites do same.

What's your bone of contention

Is this about the AVALON vs EVIL SPIRIT bash?

You don't sound professional sef.

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Re: HONDA BABY Boy Engine Change V6 by charlesadeoye(m): 10:35pm On Jan 24, 2015
@Op- I can get you a j30a1 V6 that will fit for your accord for 45k, you can call 08058171323 if you are intrested
Re: HONDA BABY Boy Engine Change V6 by disloman(m): 7:38am On Jan 27, 2015
chillex8:


Lol...

THIS-LOW-MAN

This is what I have done. And it worked years after.

Even on honda forum, forumites do same.

What's your bone of contention

Is this about the AVALON vs EVIL SPIRIT bash?

You don't sound professional sef.

don't av anything against u bro.Mi don't sound professional?but u that do,replacing j30 engine with j35?don't av to but my record speaks.
Re: HONDA BABY Boy Engine Change V6 by eherbal(m): 8:09am On Jan 27, 2015
Pls ausaus(me n my wahala) how much for honda bullet cc7 engine. 1.8i ls. Is there really a honda specialist that can handle my jalopy? What oil do you recommend for the speedster thanks. Thanks again humbly. grin grin grin
That's not it actually. Just to give you an idea of what I'm talking about

Re: HONDA BABY Boy Engine Change V6 by chillex8(m): 8:26am On Jan 27, 2015
disloman:
don't av anything against u bro.Mi don't sound professional?but u that do,replacing j30 engine with j35?don't av to but my record speaks.

Replacing J30 with J35 is POSSIBLE.

Its done everywhere, consciously and otherwise.

I have replaced j35 with J30 on my personal Van.. Its still serving the current owner.

I have also slapped in a complete J30 engine and transmission into a 1999 honda odyssey.

Same harness.

Same ECU.

It was a plug and play.

And it worked.

This is HONDA.
Re: HONDA BABY Boy Engine Change V6 by eherbal(m): 8:31am On Jan 27, 2015
chillex8:


Replacing J30 with J35 is POSSIBLE.

Its done everywhere, consciously and otherwise.

I have replaced j35 with J30 on my personal Van.. Its still serving the current owner.

I have also slapped in a complete J30 engine and transmission into a 1999 odyssey.

Same harness.

Same ECU.

It was a plug and play.

And it worked.

This is HONDA.
make una reply me undecided o
Re: HONDA BABY Boy Engine Change V6 by chillex8(m): 8:34am On Jan 27, 2015
eherbal:
make una reply me undecided o

Where is your thread
Re: HONDA BABY Boy Engine Change V6 by eherbal(m): 8:38am On Jan 27, 2015
chillex8:


Where is your thread
thread kë. Man mi check out my post na!na Gazzuz dey help before for another thread, but I no fit locate am. No show yaself my niggá. Help a brother grin
Re: HONDA BABY Boy Engine Change V6 by chillex8(m): 8:44am On Jan 27, 2015
eherbal:
thread kë. Man mi check out my post na!na taxis dey help before for another thread, but I no fit locate am. No show yaself my both. Help a brother grin

Are you speaking in tongues? cos I understand not what you say.
Re: HONDA BABY Boy Engine Change V6 by eherbal(m): 10:18am On Jan 27, 2015
eherbal:
thread kë. Man mi check out my post na!na Gazzuz dey help before for another thread, but I no fit locate am. No show yaself my niggá. Help a brother grin
edited grin.predictive error. ;DSorry for wasting ya time
Re: HONDA BABY Boy Engine Change V6 by Nobody: 11:15am On Jan 27, 2015
chillex8:


Replacing J30 with J35 is POSSIBLE.

Its done everywhere, consciously and otherwise.

I have replaced j35 with J30 on my personal Van.. Its still serving the current owner.

I have also slapped in a complete J30 engine and transmission into a 1999 honda odyssey.

Same harness.

Same ECU.

It was a plug and play.

And it worked.

This is HONDA.

Bro, I'm not saying a J35 motor won't run with a J30 ECU.

It will. But it will NOT operate at its optimum. If you're happy to have a can that drives, without bothering about fuel, ignition and timing maps, then it's a good swap. One thing is certain - the J35 will NOT produce the same power with a J30 ECU.

Contrary to what you posted, the ECU's are NOT the same. Different part numbers, as can be expected. Both these engines have different camshafts, so the duration and timing WILL be different. So will the fuel requirements, the injectors will be bigger on the J35, and the pulse duration (duty cycle) will be wider.

In summary:

Running a J35 on a J30 ECU will result in under-fuelling, lean-running, hot-running and detonation. In extreme cases, resulting in damage to the piston crowns, burnt-out exhaust valves, and damaged spark plugs. Damaged spark plugs could end up with the electrodes breaking off, and dropping into the cylinders. The result? Scored cylinder bores, and excessive oil consumption.

Running a J30 on a J35 ECU will result in over-fuelling, hesitance at low to medium throttle openings. In extreme cases, resulting in bore wash and gasoline-diluted oil, eventually leading to premature piston ring and bore wear, and damaged crankshaft journals due to gasoline-diluted oil.

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Re: HONDA BABY Boy Engine Change V6 by chillex8(m): 11:30am On Jan 27, 2015
Siena:


Bro, I'm not saying a J35 motor won't run with a J30 ECU.

It will. But it will NOT operate at its optimum. If you're happy to have a can that drives, without bothering about fuel, ignition and timing maps, then it's a good swap. One thing is certain - the J35 will NOT produce the same power with a J30 ECU.

Contrary to what you posted, the ECU's are NOT the same. Different part numbers, as can be expected. Both these engines have different camshafts, so the duration and timing WILL be different. So will the fuel requirements, the injectors will be bigger on the J35, and the pulse duration (duty cycle) will be wider.

In summary:

Running a J35 on a J30 ECU will result in under-fuelling, lean-running, hot-running and detonation. In extreme cases, resulting in damage to the piston crowns, burnt-out exhaust valves, and damaged spark plugs. Damaged spark plugs could end up with the electrodes breaking off, and dropping into the cylinders. The result? Scored cylinder bores, and excessive oil consumption.

Running a J30 on a J35 ECU will result in over-fuelling, hesitance at low to medium throttle openings. In extreme cases, resulting in bore wash and gasoline-diluted oil, eventually leading to premature piston ring and bore wear, and damaged crankshaft journals due to gasoline-diluted oil.

Now you are going by the books..

Am being practical here.

It was done and the vehicle is still running, 3 years and counting.
Re: HONDA BABY Boy Engine Change V6 by Nobody: 11:37am On Jan 27, 2015
chillex8:


Now you are going by the books..

Am being practical here.

It was done and the vehicle is still running, 3 years and counting.

I always go by the books, I can't afford to do otherwise, it keeps my clients happy, and compensation costs down. I consider both long and short-term issues.

Unless I'm carrying out a conversion, at a client's request, I will ALWAYS replace like for like. If I had to install a J35 in a vehicle that left the factory with a J30, I would replace the J30 ECU with one for the J35. Nothing else would suffice.

Now that's being practical.
Re: HONDA BABY Boy Engine Change V6 by chillex8(m): 12:00pm On Jan 27, 2015
Siena:


I always go by the books, I can't afford to do otherwise, it keeps my clients happy, and compensation costs down. I consider both long and short-term issues.

Unless I'm carrying out a conversion, at a client's request, I will ALWAYS replace like for like. If I had to install a J35 in a vehicle that left the factory with a J30, I would replace the J30 ECU with one for the J35. Nothing else would suffice.

Now that's being practical.

Now, am telling you I have done it both ways back to back. With optimal engine management.

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