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Re: Buhari, A 'Man Of Integrity', Lied Under Oath - Femi Aribisala by Mftivi: 9:46pm On Jan 27, 2015 |
dear buharists I have not seen any of you prove or try to prove wrong the atrocities buhari committed as stated by many Nigerians and some who claim to be victims. leaves me to think you agree its true and you still support him. All I have to say to you is God forbid, your consience is dead, you are more biased than a forward bias diode 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Buhari, A 'Man Of Integrity', Lied Under Oath - Femi Aribisala by drss(m): 9:49pm On Jan 27, 2015 |
myhoodlink:Thanks. Just downloaded the documentary. It's about 82mb and last 55minutes. 2 Likes |
Re: Buhari, A 'Man Of Integrity', Lied Under Oath - Femi Aribisala by maestroferddi: 9:52pm On Jan 27, 2015 |
obailala:Oga leave that thing! PDP have gotten Buhari's measure, pure and simple. In one moment, his certificates were seized by Babangida when he was toppled from government. In another, his certificates are with the secretary of the military board. Which one do we take? I think he has been cornered. His guesswork/ conjectures do not cohere. Classic rope-a-d.o.p.e from PDP. 1 Like |
Re: Buhari, A 'Man Of Integrity', Lied Under Oath - Femi Aribisala by FOLLOWJESUS: 10:01pm On Jan 27, 2015 |
Femi Aribisala is a man that always stand for the truth,the truth must be told no matter what,sentiment must be put away in this matter because our value and intergrity as a nation is at stake,for some body who has vowed to fight corruption be standing on a faulty and currupt foundation,what kind of standard and example will this be to the youths and educational value,Rule of law must be the bed rock of fighting corruption,I love and respect Buhari but this certificate issue has rubished all what he stand for,it also showed that his militery carrier was build on fulse hood,it is a very serious matter and must not be taking for a joke at all. 2 Likes |
Re: Buhari, A 'Man Of Integrity', Lied Under Oath - Femi Aribisala by udohzone(m): 10:01pm On Jan 27, 2015 |
yayitifury: See what illiteracy is doing to you. Ha...you need to find rest and peace in education. It's what would deliver freedom to you!!! 4 Likes |
Re: Buhari, A 'Man Of Integrity', Lied Under Oath - Femi Aribisala by mrrock: 10:08pm On Jan 27, 2015 |
Well written!. The fact he joined the Nigerian military with a mere letter of recommendation by his school principal simply means he did not join the military with any certificate. This's very easy for any unbiased person to understand. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Buhari, A 'Man Of Integrity', Lied Under Oath - Femi Aribisala by osebe: 10:17pm On Jan 27, 2015 |
ichidodo:The best comment I have read in a long while. 3 Likes |
Re: Buhari, A 'Man Of Integrity', Lied Under Oath - Femi Aribisala by ewosk: 10:19pm On Jan 27, 2015 |
Ok space booked...VOTE TINUBU/AMAECHI for PRESIDENCY 2015 ------ VOTE CHANGE!!! Vote .... Generals dont need certificate..,he has been certified ok by tinubu and so many others... Vote for d uncertain change after all Gej is not stern to persecute perjury and violent inciting fellows.... |
Re: Buhari, A 'Man Of Integrity', Lied Under Oath - Femi Aribisala by xcolanto(m): 10:20pm On Jan 27, 2015 |
dabossman: Bros, why would the army want to lie against a 'general'? please don't tell me GEJ has a hand in this as other e-urchins would say off some illegal substance. if indeed buhari attached his certificate to his enrolment form and the army states other wise, wouldn't all hell be let lose on the NA knowing they are deliberately slandering him? but buhari didn't question, argue or file any case against them because he knows they spoke the truth. I am sure officers from the 60's that have attached copies of their certificates in their application with the NA if questioned or requested would be made available by the NA. 2 Likes |
Re: Buhari, A 'Man Of Integrity', Lied Under Oath - Femi Aribisala by hedonistic: 10:25pm On Jan 27, 2015 |
Johnjack: Haba, bros why na. This is not fair. That word "stark" makes the illiteracy seem worse than virulent madness. Just pity the Abokki call am only illiterate. No add "stark" join am.... 1 Like |
Re: Buhari, A 'Man Of Integrity', Lied Under Oath - Femi Aribisala by Kedam(m): 10:28pm On Jan 27, 2015 |
ASO ROCK no fit Buhari. I don't know why the man no understand since all this days. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Buhari, A 'Man Of Integrity', Lied Under Oath - Femi Aribisala by cococandy(f): 10:33pm On Jan 27, 2015 |
Buhari stated in his affidavit that his academic qualification documents: “are currently with the Secretary, Military Board as of the time of presenting this affidavit.” However, the evidence indicates that Buhari must have known that this was not true at the time he swore on oath to this. This is because Buhari was the Military Secretary, Army Headquarters, from 1978-1979. That means Buhari should not be believed when he says: “I had assumed all along that all my records were in the custody of the Military Secretary of the Nigerian Army.” On the contrary, Buhari knows from his experience as Military Secretary that certified true copies of the credentials of military men are not kept with the military board. Nobody keeps the originals of their credentials with the organizations where they worked: only photocopies are kept there. Therefore, Buhari was just being disingenuous when he claimed his certificates were with the military. 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Buhari, A 'Man Of Integrity', Lied Under Oath - Femi Aribisala by FOLLOWJESUS: 10:34pm On Jan 27, 2015 |
[color=#990000][/color] ;DEMmmmmmmmmmm I dey laugh,Femi Aribisala,YOU ARE MY MAN 2 Likes |
Re: Buhari, A 'Man Of Integrity', Lied Under Oath - Femi Aribisala by 36STATES: 10:38pm On Jan 27, 2015 |
OREMUSSANCTUS: I hate those dirty baby killers too and I'm a christian. |
Re: Buhari, A 'Man Of Integrity', Lied Under Oath - Femi Aribisala by Ovacoma: 10:44pm On Jan 27, 2015 |
Batam:You didn't read the article or you don't understand it. 1 Like |
Re: Buhari, A 'Man Of Integrity', Lied Under Oath - Femi Aribisala by Onasa22: 10:55pm On Jan 27, 2015 |
Nigerians are waiting for Almajiri People's. Congress President to show his Certificate. GEJ til 2019, no vacancy in Aso Rock 3 Likes |
Re: Buhari, A 'Man Of Integrity', Lied Under Oath - Femi Aribisala by balladin: 11:17pm On Jan 27, 2015 |
aguiyi:You are very articulate and fluid in ur write up. GEJ till 2019. 2 Likes |
Re: Buhari, A 'Man Of Integrity', Lied Under Oath - Femi Aribisala by dabossman(m): 11:44pm On Jan 27, 2015 |
xcolanto: Well, like I said in my initial post, I would like to see this go to court. I'm not here to discuss GEJ or Buhari, but the charge of perjury based on the scenario at hand and the possibility of making it stick. Let's see how the prosecution and the defense will state their case if it ever gets to court. However, note that even the army admitted in their press conference that they really do not know what the procedure was as far as submitting and storing of academic records back in 1961. Modified: Just to add. How will the prosecution prove beyond reasonable doubt that Buhari was aware that his certificate was not with the army, or lied about it. I'll give you a personal experience. When I got into 100L in the university, I went to register at my department and was required to submit copies of my academic credentials (WAEC & JAMB). I met the course adviser just as he was leaving for a meeting. He gave me a form to fill and asked me to submit it with my academic results to the department's secretary as he couldn't wait. He clearly stated he would collect it from her. I did as I was told and went my way, a proud, registered jambite. Fast forward to almost the end of the session and I go to check my 1st semester results like everybody only to be told I was not registered in the department and hence had no records or result in the department. Apparently, the course adviser never collected my credentials. (Only God knows what happened to it till date.) Now, I had been going about believing I was a member of the department, attending classes, writing exams, only to be giving a shocker after almost a year. Imaging if I had sworn to an affidavit that I was a student in that department (for whatever reason) only for someone to make a background check to confirm my claim. Would I be said to have committed perjury? |
Re: Buhari, A 'Man Of Integrity', Lied Under Oath - Femi Aribisala by xcolanto(m): 11:54pm On Jan 27, 2015 |
dabossman: well I must say your in luck today because the case has so far made its way to the courts as wished. see link: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/01/certificate-controversy-abuja-lawyer-drags-buhari-court/ Also you might want to read what senior lawyers think on this matter. see link: http://www.tribune.com.ng/news/top-stories/item/27726-probe-buhari-over-certificate-senior-lawyers-task-igp keenly following up the case myself, its going to be an interesting one.. cheers |
Re: Buhari, A 'Man Of Integrity', Lied Under Oath - Femi Aribisala by dabossman(m): 12:03am On Jan 28, 2015 |
xcolanto: Modified my post in case you missed it. Oh, and I think the case in court is about eligibility, not perjury. Just to add. How will the prosecution prove beyond reasonable doubt that Buhari was aware that his certificate was not with the army, or lied about it. I'll give you a personal experience. When I got into 100L in the university, I went to register at my department and was required to submit copies of my academic credentials (WAEC & JAMB). I met the course adviser just as he was leaving for a meeting. He gave me a form to fill and asked me to submit it with my academic results to the department's secretary as he couldn't wait. He clearly stated he would collect it from her. I did as I was told and went my way, a proud, registered jambite. Fast forward to almost the end of the session and I go to check my 1st semester results like everybody only to be told I was not registered in the department and hence had no records or result in the department. Apparently, the course adviser never collected my credentials. (Only God knows what happened to it till date.) Now, I had been going about believing I was a member of the department, attending classes, writing exams, only to be giving a shocker after almost a year. Imaging if I had sworn to an affidavit that I was a student in that department (for whatever reason) only for someone to make a background check to confirm my claim. Would I be said to have committed perjury? |
Re: Buhari, A 'Man Of Integrity', Lied Under Oath - Femi Aribisala by olisaEze(m): 12:21am On Jan 28, 2015 |
ayukdaboss:my broda no vex but the result appears to a fake. And its really disappointing dt GMB wud b a part of ds. Its supposed 2b a document bearing 1961 results, but NECO is also written on d top of d certificate. And d result grading include B3 n E8 whn those grades were introduced in 2000. 1 Like |
Re: Buhari, A 'Man Of Integrity', Lied Under Oath - Femi Aribisala by xcolanto(m): 12:27am On Jan 28, 2015 |
dabossman: If Buhari never submitted it to them in the first place then what is there to prove? He only said it was with them due to assumption and a high level of ignorance maybe stemming from old age or rapid forgetfulness as witnessed in several of his rallies nation wide. Afterall, he Buhari is not disputing the fact that the NA doesn't have it, that's why he offered to go to his school in his statement to obtain it. So there's no question that the NA docked or tampered with the said document because it was never there in the first place. Not into law or psychology but for a 100 level student you had way too much laxity on your side. You should have gone to the department's secretary to confirm if indeed your course adviser had received the documents you had placed in her possession for him and not assume it had been passed on before you started parading yourself as a legitimate student, knowing the Nigerian educational system, that was a major error on your side. furthermore, you cannot swear to something you are not a 100% sure off, assuming this was a life and death situation would you have just gone ahead to swear on your life that your course adviser had received your document when you never saw it for yourself? My point is, if you are not sure and accurate on a matter, never swear an oath to its accuracy. if in doubt you should make an inquiry to ascertain the status before confidently taking a stand. to answer your question, yes you have committed perjury through assumption and ignorance which is no excuse in law. |
Re: Buhari, A 'Man Of Integrity', Lied Under Oath - Femi Aribisala by ayukdaboss(m): 12:29am On Jan 28, 2015 |
olisaEze:Na wa O....How many times will you people be told that the first document was a "Statement of Result" not the Certificate?? The template used for the Statement of Result is probably used in the Katsina School for two different Examinations. WAEC/NECO..Anyone not being recorded will be crossed out. That's the reason the NECO was crossed. I hope you are aware that Cambridge confirmed that they had the 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 grade in 1961?? |
Re: Buhari, A 'Man Of Integrity', Lied Under Oath - Femi Aribisala by ayukdaboss(m): 12:33am On Jan 28, 2015 |
dabossman:They would never sit down to objectively reason this way..Everybody thinks that in a sensitive and very complicated situation like this, APC will be foolish enough to go and produce a forged WASC Result..Can you imagine?? I believe APC is waiting for the right to time to deal PDP a very serious blow. |
Re: Buhari, A 'Man Of Integrity', Lied Under Oath - Femi Aribisala by Nobody: 12:47am On Jan 28, 2015 |
Those who fund Buhari campaign should start withdrawing their money and prepare for 2019 The man will not take part in 2015 election. Its all over 1 Like |
Re: Buhari, A 'Man Of Integrity', Lied Under Oath - Femi Aribisala by gbodimowo(m): 2:42am On Jan 28, 2015 |
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Re: Buhari, A 'Man Of Integrity', Lied Under Oath - Femi Aribisala by sonnie10: 3:13am On Jan 28, 2015 |
dabossman: There is nothing to show that he ever presented any certificate to the army in the first place. The army have said that they are not sure what the practice was in 1961 about credential verification. What this means is that he has no witness, whether and individual or an organization who can claim that they have ever seen the alleged certificate. 2 Likes |
Re: Buhari, A 'Man Of Integrity', Lied Under Oath - Femi Aribisala by Remarkable: 4:15am On Jan 28, 2015 |
LFJ: As a matter of fact, the shame is on you, my friend. What is your name? What is your real name? Say your name so that the whole world can know the person behind this ID that deserves all the shame in the world for lieing that GEJ is not campaigning on his achievements. Its either that you are a shameless liar or that you are a shamelss liar... which are you? Shameless liar? 1 Like |
Re: Buhari, A 'Man Of Integrity', Lied Under Oath - Femi Aribisala by confidenceikeh: 5:27am On Jan 28, 2015 |
The constitution can not be suspended. 4 any individual not even. Buhari.if he cannot present his certificates then why not allow the sleeping dog lie. Titilayodeji13: 1 Like |
Re: Buhari, A 'Man Of Integrity', Lied Under Oath - Femi Aribisala by dabossman(m): 6:00am On Jan 28, 2015 |
xcolanto: Bro, I'm glad you said you are not into law. The law is not always so straitjacketed. It is subject to interpretation and also based on evidence available. So you cannot conclude that anyone has committed perjury until you can prove that he knowingly lied under oath. I'm a manager in the organization where I work, and trust me if I ask someone to hand something over to my subordinate, maybe while I'm out of the office, I make it a duty to ask when I return. I don't expect a client or customer to come back and be asking "abeg, you don give oga that my file?" From the bolded part of your statement, you have basically pointed out that our educational system is lax, hence a young and then naive undergraduate like me shouldn't have taken a full grown adult for his word (not minding the fact that I came from a secondary school where things worked). Can we then also infer that the Nigerian army could also have been lax administratively? Or maybe even complicity and even partisan in their claim that they don't have the document. The fact that Buhari hasn't disputed their claim doesn't mean he or his lawyers won't do so in court. At the end of the day, like it was with my course adviser, it becomes his word against theirs. |
Re: Buhari, A 'Man Of Integrity', Lied Under Oath - Femi Aribisala by dabossman(m): 6:07am On Jan 28, 2015 |
sonnie10: Which is exactly my point. Who is there to prove whether he submitted or not. Buhari cannot prove that he did, neither can the Army prove that he didn't. It becomes a case of I submitted my documents..., no you didn't. Buhari had other documents in his file, but not his WASC result? Why? Did he truly submit it and someone is now trying to be funny, or did he not and he is just lying. How do we know? That is what a presiding judge will have to determine. |
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