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Islam And Burning People Alive by EvilBrain1(m): 7:47pm On Feb 09, 2015
Last week the whole world rose to condemn the Islamic State for burning a Jordanian pilot alive. Many muslims joined in the condemnation saying that burning people alive was against the teachings of Islam. But is this really true? The IS is known for their remarkable scholarship and their ability to justify virtually all of their violent acts by quoting the Koran, the teachings of the prophet or examples from his life.

FrontpageMag.com has published a detailed analysis of Islamic scripture and shown that burning people is not only Islamic, but that the prophet and his first companions also did the same. Its a very long read, but worth it for those who desire a deeper understanding of Islam.

In December 2014, Lt. Muath al-Kaseasbeh, a 26-year-old Jordanian Air Force pilot, was flying his F-16 in Syria in support of a U.S.-led coalition raid on the Islamic State (IS). During this mission his plane crashed near Raqqa, and he was captured by IS fighters. On February 3, 2015, Lt. al-Kaseasbeh was burned alive by IS. An IS-released video of the burning was titled Healing the Believers Chests, an apparent reference to 9:14 of the Koran.

Outrage was immediate, along with the claims that Islam not only prohibited Muslims from killing fellow Muslims, but also prohibited the burning of captives. As seems to have become usual in matters involving violence done in the name of Islam, there is more to this story.

Lt. al-Kaseasbeh was a Muslim fighting for the King of Jordan, in coalition with non-Muslim governments, against the Islamic Caliphate of IS. This combination would allow IS to declare their captured pilot a Hypocrite (Munafiq), someone whose external appearance was that of a Muslim, but who, by fighting for a secular government in coalition with non-Muslims against the new Caliphate, was actually showing his inner disbelief in Islam.

Here are some of the things the Koran says about Hypocrites: Allah has cursed them and prepared the fires of Hell for them (e.g., 4:145, 9:68, 9:73, and 48:6); and Allah commanded Muhammad to “strive hard against” and “be harsh” to the Hypocrites (9:73).

So IS was not killing a fellow Muslim; they were killing a Hypocrite who was already cursed by Allah and condemned to Hell, and against whom Allah had commanded Muslims to be harsh.

But doesn’t Islam prohibit burning people alive? To answer this question, we need to first look at Muhammad, who spoke for Allah (4:80) and is considered the standard of perfect conduct for Muslims (33:21). Muhammad had no qualms about burning people.

In December 627 Muhammad led an attack against the Al-Mustalaq tribe. Because that tribe fought back, Muhammad ordered their fortifications to be set on fire, even though the Muslims knew there were women and children inside.

Around June 628, when Kinanah bin al-Rabi of the Jewish Bani al-Nadir tribe would not reveal where his conquered tribe’s treasures were hidden, Muhammad ordered one of his soldiers, “Torture him until you extract what he has,” so a fire was built on Kinanah’s chest until Kinanah nearly died.

In October 630 there was some resistance among the Muslims (Hypocrites) toward a military expedition Muhammad was planning against the Byzantines at Tabuk. Muhammad heard that these Hypocrites were gathered in a particular house, so he ordered that the house be burned down on top of them. The Hypocrites managed to escape from the flames.

In June 632, after Muhammad’s death, an attack on Ubna that he had earlier ordered took place. The leader of the Muslim force said,

the Messenger of God commanded me and this was his last command to me: …to raid them, without inviting them [to Islam], and to destroy and burn.
The Life of Muhammad: Al-Waqidi’s Kitab al-Maghazi, p. 549


And Muhammad even considered burning down Muslims’ houses around them to compel their attendance at congregational prayers:

It was narrated that Abu Hurairah said: “The Messenger of Allah said: ‘I was thinking of commanding that the call to prayer be given, then I would tell a man to lead the people in prayer, then I would go out with some other men carrying bundles of wood, and go to people who do not attend the prayer, and burn their houses down around them.'”
Sunan Ibn Majah, No. 791


So Muhammad’s statements and actions show that during his lifetime it was permissible for Muslims to burn people alive. This was continued after Muhammad’s death.

After Muhammad died there were many Arab tribes that left Islam. This resulted in the Wars of Apostasy (Riddah Wars) under Abu Bakr, the first of the four “Rightly Guided” Caliphs (so named because they are believed to have held the most firmly to the teachings of Muhammad). The commander of each army that Abu Bakr sent out had a letter to be read to the tribe before it was attacked. The letter explained that if the tribe did not return to Islam, the army commander

will not spare any one of them he can gain mastery over, [but may] burn them with fire, slaughter them by any means…
The History of al-Tabari: The Conquest of Arabia, p. 57


Abu Bakr even set the example when a captive who had fought against the Muslims was brought to him. Abu Bakr

ordered a fire to be kindled with much firewood in the prayer yard (musalla) of Medina and threw him, with arms and legs bound, into it.
The History of al-Tabari: The Conquest of Arabia, p. 80


The commander of one of the Muslim armies was Khalid bin al-Walid. Here is a command that Abu Bakr gave to Khalid:

…kill them by every means, by fire or whatever else.
The History of al-Tabari: The Conquest of Arabia, p. 100


And Abu Bakr gave Khalid a specific command when he sent him against the Bani Hanifah in Al-Yamamah:

Kill their wounded, seek out those of them who flee, put the captives among them to the sword and strike terror among them by killing and burn them by fire. And I warn you against contradicting my orders. Peace (be upon you).
Abridged Biography of Prophet Muhammad, p. 345


Khalid took Abu Bakr’s admonitions to heart and was known for burning many captives alive. Abu Bakr’s response was,

I shall not sheathe a sword that Allah had unsheathed against the ‘unbelievers.’
The Origins of the Islamic State, p. 148


The burning continued, as Ali, the fourth “Rightly Guided” Caliph (656-661), ordered people to be burned alive for being hypocrites.

So we can see that the burning-to-death of the captured pilot can be fully supported by Islamic doctrine, and it even falls under Allah’s admonition found in 8:57 of the Koran:

So if you gain the mastery over them in war, punish them severely in order to disperse those who are behind them, so that they may learn a lesson.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/2015/dr-stephen-m-kirby/islam-and-burning-people-alive/
Re: Islam And Burning People Alive by malvisguy212: 8:31pm On Feb 09, 2015
Surah 48:13: And whoever does not
believe in Allah and His Messenger,
then surely We have prepared
BURNING FIRE FOR THE UNBELIEVERS.
(Shakir)
Re: Islam And Burning People Alive by flakesy01(f): 9:01pm On Feb 09, 2015
All dis one dat u hve copied frm ISIS article or wateva hve no authentic sources in dem. dey are mostly slander; and for ur information dey (ISIS) r not muslims, dey r simply mischievous elements whose chickens are comin home to roost, soonest

islam is a religion of peace but u r being deceived by shaitan (satan) nd his instruments such as ISIS nd boko haram, d West etc. dont b fooled! may our Creator; Allah guide us all nd ward away d shaitan around/among us. Amin.
Re: Islam And Burning People Alive by EvilBrain1(m): 12:14am On Feb 10, 2015
flakesy01:
All dis one dat u hve copied frm ISIS article or wateva hve no authentic sources in dem. dey are mostly slander; and for ur information dey (ISIS) r not muslims, dey r simply mischievous elements whose chickens are comin home to roost, soonest

islam is a religion of peace but u r being deceived by shaitan (satan) nd his instruments such as ISIS nd boko haram, d West etc. dont b fooled! may our Creator; Allah guide us all nd ward away d shaitan around/among us. Amin.

Was the prophet Muhammad also decieved by Shaitan when he ordered that "hypocrites" and enemies of Islam be burnt alive? Or was he too not s true muslim? And if IS aren't true muslims, how come their knowledge of the Islamic scriptures and jurisprudencr is so superior to that of "real" muslims? How come they can justify everything they do using the koran and the Sunnah?

You need to stop hiding behind your ignorance and learn true Islam. Because your "religion of peace" is not the same religion the prophet Muhammad practiced or preached. The prophet Muhammad was not a man of peace, we was a fighter, just like ISIS and Boko Haram. And if you are going to condemn those who are following the prophet's example, then you are not a muslim.

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Re: Islam And Burning People Alive by ebamma(m): 8:39am On Feb 10, 2015
Nice article, Isis seems to be working according to the tenets of the KO-ran,
any moderate muslim is no muslim

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Re: Islam And Burning People Alive by tartar9(m): 6:42pm On Feb 10, 2015
EvilBrain1:


Was the prophet Muhammad also decieved by Shaitan when he ordered that "hypocrites" and enemies of Islam be burnt alive? Or was he too not s true muslim? And if IS aren't true muslims, how come their knowledge of the Islamic scriptures and jurisprudencr is so superior to that of "real" muslims? How come they can justify everything they do using the koran and the Sunnah?

You need to stop hiding behind your ignorance and learn true Islam. Because your "religion of peace" is not the same religion the prophet Muhammad practiced or preached. The prophet Muhammad was not a man of peace, we was a fighter, just like ISIS and Boko Haram. And if you are going to condemn those who are following the prophet's example, then you are not a muslim.
where did he order such when he explicitly stated:No one is entitled to punish with fire except the Creator (God) of the fire.your hate has truly blinded you.
Re: Islam And Burning People Alive by EvilBrain1(m): 7:23pm On Feb 10, 2015
tartar9:
where did he order such when he explicitly stated:No one is entitled to punish with fire except the Creator (God) of the fire.your hate has blinded you.

Did you even read the article at all? There are at least 4 examples of Muhammad himself ordering people to be burnt and another one when he talked about it but didn't carry it out. All examples are fully referenced and come from authentic hadiths. All good Muslims will be familiar with the story of Kinanah bin al-Rabi of the Banu al-Nadir who was tortured to death with a fire built on his chest because Allah's messenger wanted him to reveal where his tribe's wealth was hidden.

Incidentally, the prophet Muhammad also seized and slept with Kinanah's wife, Safiyyah; apparently on the very same day he'd had her husband killed. This is another of his actions that the true Muslims of ISIS and Boko Haram like to emulate.
Re: Islam And Burning People Alive by Chidonc(m): 10:28pm On Feb 10, 2015
Islam, janja weed religion, killin the helpless masses since 00AD
Re: Islam And Burning People Alive by MightySparrow: 7:35am On Feb 11, 2015
malvisguy212:
Surah 48:13: And whoever does not
believe in Allah and His Messenger,
then surely We have prepared
BURNING FIRE FOR THE UNBELIEVERS.
(Shakir)



So this task is given to Muslims?
Re: Islam And Burning People Alive by malvisguy212: 8:01am On Feb 11, 2015
MightySparrow:




So this task is given to Muslims?
yes o my brother. God will guide his own.
Re: Islam And Burning People Alive by ribbit: 8:25am On Feb 11, 2015
religion of piss grin
Re: Islam And Burning People Alive by EvilBrain1(m): 4:44pm On Feb 12, 2015
ribbit:
religion of piss grin

This is not very helpful please. We're trying to encourage Muslims to be honest to themselves about their religion. Insulting them will just make them put up mental defenses and stop listening.
Re: Islam And Burning People Alive by EvilBrain1(m): 4:44pm On Feb 12, 2015
This Egyptian TV host knows what's up.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaHaWta7AFI

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Re: Islam And Burning People Alive by ribbit: 5:59pm On Feb 12, 2015
EvilBrain1:


This is not very helpful please. We're trying to encourage Muslims to be honest to themselves about their religion. Insulting them will just make them put up mental defenses and stop listening.
muslims? mental defenses? don't make me laugh grin
Re: Islam And Burning People Alive by flakesy01(f): 8:31pm On Feb 13, 2015
EvilBrain1:


Was the prophet Muhammad also decieved by Shaitan when he ordered that "hypocrites" and enemies of Islam be burnt alive? Or was he too not s true muslim? And if IS aren't true muslims, how come their knowledge of the Islamic scriptures and jurisprudencr is so superior to that of "real" muslims? How come they can justify everything they do using the koran and the Sunnah?

You need to stop hiding behind your ignorance and learn true Islam. Because your "religion of peace" is not the same religion the prophet Muhammad practiced or preached. The prophet Muhammad was not a man of peace, we was a fighter, just like ISIS and Boko Haram. And if you are going to condemn those who are following the prophet's example, then you are not a muslim.

Where d heck did u get ur misinformation if i may ask? d prophet me i know nd dat i believe in nd follow was d best of mankind, take it or leave it. if wat u r sayin doznt come directly frm d authentic sunnah of d holy prophet den u shud bury ur face in shame for ur slander.

u know next to nothing abt christianity let alone islam, except for all d negative propaganda of d religion sponsored by d west nd d activities of doz devilish terrorists dat pose as muslims.j[b]
EvilBrain1:


Was the prophet Muhammad also decieved by Shaitan when he ordered that "hypocrites" and enemies of Islam be burnt alive? Or was he too not s true muslim? And if IS aren't true muslims, how come their knowledge of the Islamic scriptures and jurisprudencr is so superior to that of "real" muslims? How come they can justify everything they do using the koran and the Sunnah?

You need to stop hiding behind your ignorance and learn true Islam. Because your "religion of peace" is not the same religion the prophet Muhammad practiced or preached. The prophet Muhammad was not a man of peace, we was a fighter, just like ISIS and Boko Haram. And if you are going to condemn those who are following the prophet's example, then you are not a muslim.

Where d heck did u get ur misinformation if i may ask? d prophet me i know nd dat i believe in nd follow was d best of mankind, take it or leave it. if wat u r sayin doznt come directly frm d authentic sunnah of d holy prophet den u shud bury ur face in shame for ur slander.

u know next to nothing abt christianity let alone islam, except for all d negative propaganda of d religion sponsored by d west nd d activities of doz devilish terrorists dat pose as muslims.j[/b]
EvilBrain1:


Was the prophet Muhammad also decieved by Shaitan when he ordered that "hypocrites" and enemies of Islam be burnt alive? Or was he too not s true muslim? And if IS aren't true muslims, how come their knowledge of the Islamic scriptures and jurisprudencr is so superior to that of "real" muslims? How come they can justify everything they do using the koran and the Sunnah?

You need to stop hiding behind your ignorance and learn true Islam. Because your "religion of peace" is not the same religion the prophet Muhammad practiced or preached. The prophet Muhammad was not a man of peace, we was a fighter, just like ISIS and Boko Haram. And if you are going to condemn those who are following the prophet's example, then you are not a muslim.

Where d heck did u get ur misinformation if i may ask? d prophet me i know nd dat i believe in nd follow was d best of mankind, take it or leave it. if wat u r sayin doznt come directly frm d authentic sunnah of d holy prophet den u shud bury ur face in shame for ur slander.

u know next to nothing abt christianity let alone islam, except for all d negative propaganda of d religion sponsored by d west nd d activities of doz devilish terrorists dat pose as muslims, yet u confidently say wat u dnt know. pls always try to mke proper research frm d right sources b4 u say anything against islam. nd if u dnt know dere is no crime in asking frm doz who do, dats d way to learn.

i sincerely hope u throw away ur bias nd open ur soul; sincerely wanting to know nd perharps someday u may see d lite. takia my friend. PEACE BE UNTO U!
Re: Islam And Burning People Alive by EvilBrain1(m): 12:54pm On Feb 14, 2015
flakesy01:

Where d heck did u get ur misinformation if i may ask? d prophet me i know nd dat i believe in nd follow was d best of mankind, take it or leave it. if wat u r sayin doznt come directly frm d authentic sunnah of d holy prophet den u shud bury ur face in shame for ur slander.

u know next to nothing abt christianity let alone islam, except for all d negative propaganda of d religion sponsored by d west nd d activities of doz devilish terrorists dat pose as muslims, yet u confidently say wat u dnt know. pls always try to mke proper research frm d right sources b4 u say anything against islam. nd if u dnt know dere is no crime in asking frm doz who do, dats d way to learn.

i sincerely hope u throw away ur bias nd open ur soul; sincerely wanting to know nd perharps someday u may see d lite. takia my friend. PEACE BE UNTO U!

If you read my original post, you'll see that I highlighted all the sources in bold. There is no misinformation and everything I posted is from authentic sunnah. While you continue to tell yourself that the prophet was the best of humanity, you fellow Muslims in ISIS and Boko Haram are analyzing his words and deeds and replicating them as closely as possible.

If you don't agree with what Boko Haram is doing, that means you don't agree with the example of the prophet. If you condemn Boko Haram, then you condemn the prophet.

You need to face the reality of your religion. You need to stop claiming that ISIS and Boko Haram are somehow not real Muslims. The truth is that they are more Muslim than you.

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