Tayo-D:

,  I just feel sorry for many car dealers who transact high volumes and may have entered agreement with buyers without anticipating this wahala.

ToToChoper:

MSC MSC everywhere----damn!!!

Past experiences reveal Grimaldi gives one the run-around on ship out date-----could even be 2-3months, but clearing is done fast. I surely hope port officials work diligently to reduce this madness at Tincan.

How does this play into the accumulation of demurrage charges?

How does this play into the accumulation of demurrage charges?

Tayo-D:

@topic,

Update. I just called my Agent who confirmed that the ship has finally been allowed to offload. My truck should be out in about 3 days. About time I say, about time.

Regarding Grimaldi, I don't think I'll want to deal with people who will promise one thing and do another. When i called AES Shipping, they told me the next shipment to Lagos was in about 10 days. I got my car there in time and the car sailed the same day they promised via RORO. Now that is my kind of company. The Port congestion is not their fault at all. If anything, the shipping company is the one that loses much more money due to the delay.
I don't think this should affect anyone. I believe demurrage only accumulates from the day you are meant to pick up your goods. Up until now, my car was not retrievable by my Agent. Am I right or is there any other twist to this?

babeisme:

Is it just me on the port congestion in Lagos right now is Crazy!

babeisme:


Everyday is the same story,

jenju:


@T_Choper, Thanks for the info. So na MSC dey clog the port with junk from Asia

inspired_m:

The Congestion at the Lagos Ports is Terrible. both sea & land Ports are Congested.

Informations reaching me is that Further Ships Might be Diverted to Neighboring Ports, theres a Log Back Probably due to the End of the Year Frenzy.

jenju:

@Tayo-D,

AES is a freightforwarder that now primarily uses Hoegh for shipping. 90% of the time, if you get your car to the port on time, it will ship as promised. I have had vehicles in port, particularly SUVs, that didn't ship as promised by AES, but left on the next ship. I have to admit that as far as RORO is concerned Hoegh is the most reliable.  Given the current conjestion, if one has 3 to 4 cars to ship, Grimaldi containers might be the most reliable option.  This assumes that one is shipping from the east coast of the USA.

@T_Choper, Thanks for the info. So na MSC dey clog the port with junk from Asia  

Jafour:

May be but all my containers are shipped with MSC from Canada

jenju:

@Jafour, pele o. The whole congestion problem is a disgrace and it is costing the government $millions not to talk of costs to businessmen. Insha Allah you will recoup any losses 10 fold before the end of the year.

Tayo-D:

@Jesarmyl,

I just sent you an email with all the information you requested.

All the best.

Jafour:

You are not the only one experiencing the port congestion. 3 of my containers arrived Lagos on November 01, 2008 up till now they have not been cleared. I kept mute and a bit surprised when I read adverts on NL people making assertion of their delivery during the yuletide period. I thought may be, they are doing RORO because you are only allow in Canada to export your goods in container.

No doubt this annual congestion during the yuletide period has affected business a lot couple with the fact that the naira took a steep fall in value.

Three of my customers who pre-ordered their vehicles are asking for refund since I could not deliver as promised. The most annoying is the guy who wanted to make use of his pre-ordered Toyota Camry 2007 for his wedding in December 2008. I had thought the containers will be cleared as usual
under 2-3 weeks in November and deliver to him for his wedding but alas the Nigerian factors steered me in the face and I was rendered useless, hopeless and above all incapable of satisfying my customers. The purpose of buying a good car at a lower price by the "would be groom" has been defeated by this man-made congestion.
I am at a loss on what to do because from my clearing agent.

Jafour:

@Inspired_M
Your information is late. One of my containers has been already diverted and discharged in Tema, Ghana on December 22, 2008. Please log on on to MSC site www.mscgva. ch and track container number MEDU8307871

Jafour link=topic=214751.msg3310272#msg3310272 date=1231270944:

You are not the only one experiencing the port congestion. 3 of my containers arrived Lagos on November 01, 2008 up till now they have not been cleared. I kept mute and a bit surprised when I read adverts on NL people making assertion of their delivery during the yuletide period. I thought may be, they are doing RORO because you are only allow in Canada to export your goods in container.

No doubt this annual congestion during the yuletide period has affected business a lot couple with the fact that the naira took a steep fall in value.

Three of my customers who pre-ordered their vehicles are asking for refund since I could not deliver as promised. The most annoying is the guy who wanted to make use of his pre-ordered Toyota Camry 2007 for his wedding in December 2008. I had thought the containers will be cleared as usual under 2-3 weeks in November and deliver to him for his wedding but alas the Nigerian factors steered me in the face and I was rendered useless, hopeless and above all incapable of satisfying my customers. The purpose of buying a good car at a lower price by the "would be groom" has been defeated by this man-made congestion.
I am at a loss on what to do because from my clearing agent.

jenju:

@Jafour, pele o. The whole congestion problem is a disgrace and it is costing the government $millions not to talk of costs to businessmen. Insha Allah you will recoup any losses 10 fold before the end of the year.

@jesarmy, Expect my reply with 8 - 24hours.

inspired_m:





[b]Yeah Some Vessels were diverted to Calabar and neighboring Ports, I personally think the Bureaucratic Clearing Procedure is the Only reasonable explanation for the Congestion, the Yuletide Excuse is flimpsy because Ports were Opened all through except on Public Holidays

While I understand that RORO is not applicable to Vehicles shipped out of Canada, In My Opinion, RORO is still the fastest form of Shipping Vehicles to Nigeria except for Extremely High Valued Vehicles which may cost a tooth to insure via RORO.

You can explain to your Pre order Clients since the Problem is No fault of Yours, I had same Issue with Some Pre Order Clients that needed their SUVs for Xmas and Seeing the Problem is General, they had to Understand, I also Informed all my Pre Order Clients with Vehicles Pending about the US $ rate and how we can work to amend the 70% Balance Due to adjust to the New Rate and So far Most of my clients have been Understanding and Supportive.

I[b] Pray you Gain your Losses in Multiple Folds Very Soon.[/b]

Thanks
[/b]

for real!!!! I'm loosing a whole whole lot on my previous deals too due to the fall in naira value! it's crazy!
and about Grimaldi, i just heard of them yesterday and the fact that they are never affected by the congestion. So now, i'll have to make better choices for shipping!
whatever the case may be, my customers know that their cars arrived in exactly 2 weeks and the only reason for this is because of the festive December!!! God is on the throne and by God's grace, it'll be over soon!

MSC MSC everywhere----damn!!!

Past experiences reveal Grimaldi gives one the run-around on ship out date-----could even be 2-3months, but clearing is done fast. I surely hope port officials work diligently to reduce this madness at Tincan.

You are quite correct regarding the run-around on ship out date. It is basically first in first out, and you may need to pull strings at the port to get your vehicle appropriately promoted. The uncertainty is usually with their RORO where your car could sit at the port for months if you don't do the needed due delligence.  As far as containers, my experience has been good, they usually leave when i get the booking. 

@ babeisme
The bolded parts are relevant. Look before you leap. don't sack your current shipper yet. This is a force majure situation.