SirShymexx:


Stop twisting history like you always. I thought by now, you should've educated yourself a bit - but old habits never die like they say.

Who organised the Council of Nicea in 312AD?

Who founded Constantinople, for the new Christian Capital/City?

Whether he fully converted or not, can be debated. However, he did favour the Christian-cult, and played a major role in the growth of Christianity. Yes, he did persecute Christians before that - but that doesn't negate the role he played afterwards.

Radoillo:


I'll tell you what I told the other guy. Go and read about Constantine.

12ema:


Yes, that's right? No mind the OP joo. History is not important jare. Who cares where we came from. What is important is psquare, yemi alade and all other nollywood makers and shakers. He should have posted topics similar to that. Who needs to be educated anyway? I'm with you.

SirShymexx:


Lol. How about answer the two questions I posed to you?

Dude, stick to Igbo history and stop jumping out of ya depth.

jacksparrow1207:
Sorry, too long. Cant read today. Maybe next weekend

pazienza:
So, Moor was initially used exclusively for black, but later became diluted to mean "everybody" in modern day North Africa, by the beasts, all in attempt to strip the black man of any claim to great achievements in the past.

Why am I not surprised, nothing is beyond these beasts, from history revisionism, now we they don't even want us to learn history at all.

If the black man knew what he achieved in the past, he would know what he is capable of doing in the present, and their mental enslavement of the black man would end, leading to the end of their economic and political enslavement of the black.

The riches in Europe is powered by the poverty in Africa, to keep this going, they sit on our history, twisting and rewriting it as they wish. Do you blame them when we have too many weak minds in our midst, easily brainwashed by the mainstream media and literature.

blackjack21:


One word.
LAZY





15:09:46
Sat, Mar 7, 2015

Demmzy15:

You lied, the Muslims established Spain and Grenada. The Crusaders were bloodthirsty fools who killed all their way, they killed many Arab Christians(thinking they were Muslims), wiped out Jewish villages and killed Muslims!!!!

The reason for Crusades was that Muslims occupied Jerusalem and they want to clean up the land! Lol, they claimed to clean up but they committed atrocities against man, they even went to the extent of eating dead bodies!

No one should be proud of that, I can't be proud of murderers who claim to fight for Islam but kill indiscriminately. Women, children, infants weren't spared! Timur a so-called Muslim killed millions, but no Muslim is proud of that. He wanted to be like Genghis Khan, he killed Muslims, Jews, Hindus. Let's be reasonable!

kay1one2:


The crusades were not a christian mission. Killing however seems to be an islamic mission as thats what mohammed did. Christ asked his followers to preach!

Radoillo:

You should have known by now I don't response to your childish ethnic taunts.

First, Constantine was not baptised until he laid on his sick bed dying. Why?

Second, even after he became pro-Christian, he still built and dedicated temples to the old Roman gods. Till he died he retained his title as the head of the pagan Roman priesthood. Constantinople which he built was studded with pagan idols, and it remained so at the time he was espousing the cause of Christianity.

Constantine was smart and practical. He (unlike earlier emperors) realised that Christianity was a growing power he could not still. Plus he did have a soft spot for the religion, as many people close to him were Christians. What he then did was try to conciliate the growing faith and see how he could bring it under Imperial Control.

Like I said get your hands on a good biography of the man and read it. General history books on the Roman Empire and Christianity (which are all a lot of people get to read) do not paint a full picture of the emperor.

cap28:


We have great minds in our midst but the Europeans have many of us under a very debilitating form of mind control which actively works to keep us ignorant and full of self hate, try this experiment: disassociate yourself from the European mass mind pollution media for 6 months and immerse yourself in black history and you will see the change that will come over you. After being away from the mind control cancers that call themselves CNN, BBC, Fox etc you will start to develop a different mindset about the world we live in, please note that this experiment must be combined with research about black history and a genuine desire to acquire knowledge about black history.

bigfrancis21:
After the fall of the Roman empire in the 4th to 5th centuries, Europe entered into what is known historically as the Dark ages - a period characterized by lack of growth in knowledge, backwardness and little development. Civilization was to be brought to Europe again through the Moors of North Africa who were a black muslim people, in their conquest to spread Islam. From 711 to 1490, black men ruled in Spain, Portugal and France, leaving behind architectural wonders of today: The Alhambra and the Mosque of Cordoba in Spain.


http://www.blackhistorystudies.com/resources/resources/15-facts-on-the-moors-in-spain/

anonimi:
Since when did Moors of North African become Negroes of sub-Saharan Africa

How many people are aware of how Blacks are racially discriminated against in Libya, Morocco, Algeria, Egypt etc?

.:
This is Ayuba Suleiman
Diallo (aka Job ben Solomon). He came from a very
educated family in the Senegal region. His
grandfather converted to Islam and for that reason
Job had received education in Arabic and Islamic
sciences. He was a scholar par excellence.

He was
abducted by European slavers in 1731 and was duly
taken across the Atlantic. He attempted to escape
from slavery and was caught by his "master".

He
wrote a letter to his in father in Arabic but instead
of making its way to west Africa, the letter ended up
in London in the hands of some English gentlemen.


He was bought and subsequently brought to
London in 1733 to translate Arabic books. He wrote
the Quran from memory, as one can be seen
hanging in his neck in the portrait. He returned to
his native land, having been freed, to find his father
dead in a battle and his wife married to someone
else.

Ayub bin Suleiman was one of the very few
slaves to return home after slavery and was indeed
one of the even fewer who were educated enough
to free themselves. Islam had enabled Ayub to be
firm and never loose hope, as he never lost his
faith.

The Oxford University Press published a
biography of Ayub authored by Douglas Grant.
Islam gives hope to the Africans today just like it
did to Ayub then. Please help us bring Islam back to
the people of Africa for greater education, harmony
and peace.

SirShymexx:


How's that ethnic taunts? Isn't that ya forte? Oh, telling you to stick to ya forte means "ethnic taunts" in ya dictionary, no? I'd do the same to Odumchi and the rest cos once you lot step out ya comfort-zone - it's about spouting all kinds of revisionism and pseudo-history. Aren't you the same guy who always vehemently argue against Nile Valley civilisations being black civilisations? The same guy who believes the Moors weren't black?

He wasn't baptised, but how does that negate the fact that he converted to Christianity as alluded to by many historians and early Christian writers? Yes, he probably never understood what he was converting to, and did practise some paganism afterwards (especially the pagan statues he built in Constantinople). However, he played a major role in modern Christianity, and favoured the Christian-cult more than any other type of religion.

The Council of Nicea 325AD in which he organised birthed the New Testament and modern Christendom - and the use of God the father, the son, and the holy spirit. He also founded Constantinople (today's Istanbul), the new Rome, for Christians. Heck, some of the earliest images of Jesus were images of Emperor Constantine.

P.S: just answer the two questions with direct answers, rather than obfuscating facts and going off on a tangent.

kay1one2:


Read about Constantine the roman emperor after nero who made Christianity the official religion of the Roman empire!

kay1one2:


The paper you write on was created in china in the bcs. Democracy you practice was developed in greece in the bcs. All modern progress made in today's world was in europe by officially Christian nations. Mohammed and islam represents backwardness!

Radoillo:

Where's all this coming from? And where did I tell you Moors weren't black? We disagree on how black the Nile civilizations were, so....? Even well-learned Egyptologists disagree on that. What does it have to do with you going to pick a pick on Constantine?

Yes, bringing up Igbo on a general history thread that has nothing to do with them is childish, and shows how ethnic-minded you are. Go through this thread. That was the first mention of any specific ethnic group on this thread. It's something you always do. Which is why I never like having a discussion with you. You are unable to see past ethnicity.

I'm done with this. Let me suggest the finest history book in the English language ever written. Well-referenced. Over 2 centuries old and still without rival. 'The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' by Gibbon. Chapters 17 and 18 deal with the career of Constantine.

When you are done and you want to resume this conversation, then come back. You will not understand Constantine's motives for playing the role he played in establishing the Christian faith in his empire if you do not understand who he was. I reiterate: he was a pro-Christian pagan, only accepting baptism on his death bed. Christian emperors do not build temples to Roman gods... which he did even in the so-called Christian city of Constantinople.

On a different note: Did you really think the University of Timbuktu was older than Fez and Al-Alzhar? That's kind of messed up.

cap28:

I hope you were being sarcastic

Ubenedictus:


corrections, spain already existed before the muslims came, there was already a Christian civilisation in constantinople and many other cities before the Islamic conquest.

The crusade were a response to the islamic conquests, the arabs and the ottoman empire was constantly trying to subjugate all the cities on its way and turn the lands into Islamic caliphate, some islamic rulers were "just" and tried to consider everyone others weren't, jerusalem was conquered and later held by the sarecens, so was constantinople by mohamed II, then spain and most eastern Christian cities. This insatiable islamic conquest made a Christian Kingdom to fear for their lives even the pope in rome knew he wasn't safe but simply contributed to the tension the muslim conquest had coused, crusades were called after a group of arabs masacred a group of pligrims on their way to Jerusalem, that was the straw that broke the carmel's back and precipitated the crusades.

The crusade were warlike and like most wars there were abuses, really disgusting things were done and i won't try to defend whatever atrocities were commited.

But yeah, the crusade were a reaction to the insatiable conquest of the ottoman empire and its associates.

pazienza:



After studying the circumstances surrounding Thomas Sankara's death and that of Patrice Lumumba, and the way the beasts that claim to be bastions of democracy deposed a democratically elected president in Iran to enthrone a puppet that answers to them.

I began to question all that they dish out as history in various White literatures. It's obvious there is no extent these people won't go, to have the entire treasures of the earth to themselves, at the expense of all indigenous people of the world. History revisionism is only but the start of how far they can go, the leaked letter of Leopold to Belgium Christian missionaries in Congo DR, was also an eye opener to her far they are willing to go to have control of all the treasures of the world under their control, to benefit their people and leave the indigenous owners in poverty and penury.


I pity black people still under the control of the European introduced religions, European media houses, both electronic and print.

12ema:


Please tell me you are joking.

cap28:


why would I be joking

Situation001:
Remember civilization started in Africa..

A time shall come that Africa will once more rule the world...

macof:


Only when Africans look to their ancestors and leave foreign religions

12ema:


That i would have to explain sarcasm. Is psquare more important than understanding our history?

12ema:


define; "leave foreign religions"

cap28:


Psquare is not even known outside the borders of West Africa, why would you compare him to something as serious as black history?

xage:
Islam is the begining of civilization