Obasanjo is blocking creation of Ibadan state - Olubadan
By Adeolu Adeyemo
Wednesday, January 21, 2009


Olubadan of Ibadanland, Oba Samuel Odulana, on Tuesday accused former President Olusegun Obasanjo of blocking the creation of Ibadan state.


The monarch, who said this while receiving Ibadan Descendants Union (University of Ibadan and The Polytechnic, Ibadan) chapters led by its new president, Mr. Mohammed Oladejo, on Tuesday, said the work of God could never be hindered by any mortal.

The monarch, who explained that the former president might be doing this because of the war between Ibadan and the Egbas long time ago, said “it was the victory of Ibadan over Egbas and Ijebus that made Ibadan warriors to drive away Obasanjo’s kinsmen from some area in Ibadan.

“We, Ibadans are the first to request for a state in Nigeria. Then, Ibadan used to be known as IPU. In 1957, I, the late Adegoke Adelabu and others met and we requested for Yoruba Central State.

http://odili.net/news/source/2009/jan/21/603.html

Why are people envying on obasanjo?

Some people see Obasanjo in all their dreams, i thought Olubadan seems to have joined the group

Who needs a freaking Ibadan State The capital is already Ibadan. I suppose Oyo State capital will be Oyo then. Another avenue to steal more money. There is no development in the present state how much more Oyo State.

First of all the olubadan does need to worry. This is just to inform him, the republic of benin would create Ibadan state. Other state like akure state, ijebu state,benin  and coastal state from delta state would be created in the republic of benin.

And each of this state would not get less than 3 times what they are getting from nigeria. And lagos is expected to get 5 times revenue from the benin republic.   And evey political prisoner and political accused like ibori, chief George etc shall be reviewed.

Look the nigeria law allows us to transfer our land to the republic of benin. According to the nigeria law , the land act does not give the president vested power on land expect land in the FCT. And the land act can not be modify by the president expect by constitution amendament.  We have the right to transfer it to republic of  Benin. Please read the land act.

To show you some of the state  please compare Abia state which is more populated than ebonyi state to Ijebu state and akure state. You can even see that akure state is in 3 pictures.

Abia state


Ijebu state


Akure state,

@becomerich/nigeria1 or whatever handle you come up with

cant you type a single post without uploading maps?
them take am swear for you

First of all the olubadan does need to worry. This is just to inform him, the republic of benin [/b]would create Ibadan state. Other state like akure state, ijebu state,benin and coastal state from delta state would be created in the [b]republic of benin.

And each of this state would not get less than 3 times what they are getting from nigeria. And lagos is expected to get 5 times revenue from the benin republic. And evey political prisoner and political accused like ibori, chief George etc shall be reviewed.

Don't we have the Republic of Benin already?. You want to have two countries bearing the same name?

Chief judge and not chief George.

Ijebu State: Awujale’s team draws tears from Bankole
Bola Badmus, Abuja



Thursday, January 22, 2009
Speaker, House of Representatives, Honourable ’Dimeji Bankole, on Wednesday shed tears when he received the Awujale of Ijebuland, Oba Sikiru Adetona, who led a team of prominent Ijebus from Ogun State to demand for the creation of Ijebu state.






The development came just as the monarch said the military, which had been instrumental in creation of states in the past, decided not to favour the Ijebus because the Ijebus had always been in the vanguard of the battle against them through National Democratic Coalition (NADECO), among others.

The Speaker was overwhelmed by emotion as it got to his turn to respond to the speech read by former Nigerian diplomat, Professor Adebayo Adedeji, on the Ijebu request.

Just after Bankole observed all the protocol, tears rolled down his cheeks and for some minutes, he had to wipe his face and could not continue for a while, perhaps due to the singing of his praises by not a few Ijebus that accompanied the Awujale, amid dancing and drumming.

The monarch had in his delegation many royal fathers, prominent sons and daughters of Ijebuland, including Chief Ayo Adebanjo, Senator Jibril Martins- Kuye, Chief Olu Adebanjo, Chief Dele Odulaja, Chief Adeyemi Bero Chief Kayode Keshinro, among others.

http://odili.net/news/source/2009/jan/22/607.html

lol this man has come with his maps, na wayo people like you crash nigcomsat-1

Very soon every street will turn to a state.
What makes you think they will create Ibadan state when the state that the South east have been asking for, for a long time has not been given. Even Ijebu sef dey ask for state, hahahaha hilarious

lol this man has come with his maps, na wayo people like you crash nigcomsat-1

That is not how to talk to an electricity engineer. have some respect pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze.

Very soon every street will turn to a state.
What makes you think they will create Ibadan state when the state that the South east have been asking for, for a long time has not been given. Even Ijebu sef dey ask for state, hahahaha hilarious

I agitate for Ilesha state.

Obasanjo should have been bombed into extinction!
Fugly bastard!!

And for the records, me i am against the uneccessary break up of existing states to create new ones
Totally pointless!
Nigeria is so annoying

Obasanjo should have been bombed into extinction!
Fugly bastard!!

And for the records, me i am against the uneccessary break up of existing states to create new ones
Totally pointless!
Nigeria is so annoying

Were you against it when Hausas were chopping their empty deserts into different pieces as states that are capable of collecting federal allocations?. BecomeRich actually has a point when he was ranting about it.

I would prefer we go back to our regional system of goverment since we have 6 political zones already we should make use of them and start practising real federalism where these political zones will control there resouces and contribute to the centre.Thank God price of fuel is falling and likely continue to fall so that we have a rethink of the mindless creation of states which only serves as conduite pipe for the governors and the political jobbers.

Forward ever, backward Never. God bless Nigeria and the blessing will be more evident if the northerners decamp and leave us alone.

earTHMama:

Forward ever, backward Never. God bless Nigeria and the blessing will be more evident if the northerners decamp and leave us alone.

Dont kid yourself, the Northerners alone are not responsible for the problems Nigeria is facing!!

Dont kid yourself, the Northerners alone are not responsible for the problems Nigeria is facing!!

Why don't they leave first?. Is it by force to stay together in an uncomfortable marriage?. Why are they scared to leave us alone?. Don't the trust their allah enough to provide for them?

asha 80:

I would prefer we go back to our regional system of goverment since we have 6 political zones already we should make use of them and start practising real federalism where these political zones will control there resouces and contribute to the centre.Thank God price of fuel is falling and likely continue to fall so that we have a rethink of the mindless creation of states which only serves as conduite pipe for the governors and the political jobbers.

I totally agree, then any region that wants to create 1 million state can go ahead.

Becomrrich:

First of all the olubadan does need to worry. This is just to inform him, the republic of benin would create Ibadan state. Other state like akure state, ijebu state,benin and coastal state from delta state would be created in the republic of benin.

And each of this state would not get less than 3 times what they are getting from nigeria. And lagos is expected to get 5 times revenue from the benin republic.   And evey political prisoner and political accused like ibori, chief George etc shall be reviewed.

Look the nigeria law allows us to transfer our land to the republic of benin. According to the nigeria law , the land act does not give the president vested power on land expect land in the FCT. And the land act can not be modify by the president expect by constitution amendament. We have the right to transfer it to republic of  Benin. Please read the land act.

Abeg try not to offer opinions on matters that fall outwith your areas of competrncy. Which law allows anyone to transfer lands that fall within the Federal Republic of Nigeria to the Benin Republic?

People just come here to sprout gibberish sha.

Go school mr, But let me answer.
First of all the 1999 constitution is an invalid constitution because it was NEVER done based on agreement of the people of nigeria. So we technically do not have a constitution.

Now let us pretend that we have a constitution. The nigeria constitution says in one section that the land act can not be altered.

The land act does not vest or give the land in nigeria to the federal government of nigeria. It only give FCT to the federal govt of nigeria. While it give the state ownership of the land.  So if the state transfer the land.

And the president can not alter the land act according to the constitution . only constitution review can alter the land act.

Now if all the western niger state agree to give thier land to the republic of benin. It is legal. This is based on the assumption that we had a valid constitution. But we never had a valid constitution.

A constitution is an agreement. But there was never an agreement to the 1999 constitution as required  even by the 1999 constitution itself.

So now we do not have a constitution and every goverment derive its power to rule based on the constitution , We really technically do not have a government. Now we know who own the land. If we the yorubas who own the land transfer it to Benin republic. It become valid.

Now we know who own the land. If we the yorubas who own the land transfer it to Benin republic. It become valid.

No state will be created until we get our Anioma state.

This Obj don suffer. There's nothing that happens in Nigeria today that people don't see the hands of Obj in one way or the other. What a lucky man!!

Becomrrich:

Go school mr, But let me answer.
First of all the 1999 constitution is an invalid constitution because it was NEVER done based on agreement of the people of nigeria. So we technically do not have a constitution.

Now let us pretend that we have a constitution. The nigeria constitution says in one section that the land act can not be altered.
The land act does not vest or give the land in nigeria to the federal government of nigeria. It only give FCT to the federal govt of nigeria. While it give the state ownership of the land.  So if the state transfer the land.

And the president can not alter the land act according to the constitution . only constitution review can alter the land act.

Now if all the western niger state agree to give thier land to the republic of benin. It is legal. This is based on the assumption that we had a valid constitution. But we never had a valid constitution.

A constitution is an agreement. But there was never an agreement to the 1999 constitution as required  even by the 1999 constitution itself.

So now we do not have a constitution and every goverment derive its power to rule based on the constitution , We really technically do not have a government. Now we know who own the land. If we the yorubas who own the land transfer it to Benin republic. It become valid.

This is why it is said that it is better to be totally unschooled, than to be half-educated. The 1999 constitution is very valid. If according to your argument, it was not the "people" of Nigeria who agreed to the constitution, your National Assembly members whom you elected (and who therefore are the people's reperesentative) had and still have the powers to alter/modify or expunge the parts of the constitution that they do not like, and they have not done so (apart from a few minor alterations shich do not matter here), but instead they have "adopted" it implicitly and work thereunder.

If for the sake of argument, you say that the 1999 constitution is invalid and void, the situation does not become like you would like to believe that Nigeria would become a nation without a constitution. No, what would happen is that the status quo ante would be restored and the 1979 constitution would go back to being the valid constitution. And if you argue that that isn't either, the situation would continue until we reach either the 1963 Republican constitution or the even further back, the 1960 Independence constitution (no one would say that it was not the people that agreed on the independence constitution and even the republican one). So please stop embarrassing yourself by sprouting all the nonsense you have said as it just shows how little you understand the law.

Oh! and before I forget, two little points -

(1) While the lands in the various states are not vested in the federal government as you stated, they are vested in the governor of each state as the owner of these lands. Although this ownership is a kind of trust, so that the governor holds or owns such lands in trust for the people of his state and cannot unjustly deny an "individual owner" the possession or "ownership" (ownership here is defined in a manner different from that vested in the governor) except it is for public interest etc. Thus, neither you nor I can "transfer", as you say, our lands to the Republic of Benin. Moreover, the alteration and determination of the boundaries of sovereign States is a whole different matter on another realm which involves international conventions and/or treaties/agreements BETWEEN sovereign States (as represented by the competent authority), NOT individuals. This takes you deeply past national laws into International Law ^{(I refer you to the Bakassi Peninsula case between Nigeria and Cameroon)}.

(2) The president does NOT have the power to alter any law whatsoever. Of course in a state of emergency, there are powers he may exercise, but that does not even apply here, so abeg leave story. Also, what the heck do you mean by constitution review? You talk as if a constitution review is an independent body (a constitution review means exactly what it says i.e. carrying out a review of the constitution). The Land use Act CAN be amended by the National Assembly. It can be amended the same way the constitution can be amended (you'd do well to go through the constitution again. Pay special attention to Section 315(5) and if you like, you may read it in conjunction with Section 9(2) for a fuller understanding).

Bottom line, you'd do well, to read the laws you cite carefully and get an understanding of them before you start shooting off here with half-baked stuff. Better still, take your own advice and go to school. You can enroll for a law programme (In your second and fourth year of study, you will be taught constitutional law and land law respectively, and can take international law in your fourth of fifth year (Depending on the school)). Till you do any of these, stick to your area of competency.

^{(Geez, that was quite tiresome)}

my friend when you talk of law in nigeria, I can get up to 10 people that I am related to that will speak of law even my father inlaw is a well know nigeria lawyer. One of them is Gani fawehinmi. So no talk of law for myside

unschooled, than to be half-educated.

You make me laugh, you are the one looking stupid here. Look it is well know everywhere in the world. If both of us decided to start a business, and we give the constitution (agreement to a lawyer) . by the time the lawyer finish. It does not make it an agreement. It is just a piece of paper with no value.

The only way it would have a value is if SIGN AND you sign. ( that the agreement)

Look every constitution in nigeria have been written by somebody. all of the constitution. either by a justice or lawyer after a constitution conference. They now make them sign to the constitution. all constitution. but in this case , there was no conference to discuss the constitution and agree. it make it invalid.

I can write a constitution. fashola can write a constitution too. Yar adua can write his constitution. Justice tobi can write a constitution. It is the agreement by the people that make a constitution valid. We never agreed to this constitution. So it is invalid. I would agree with you that the last valid constitution is the 1979 constitution or what ever.

look there are nonsense written in the 1999 constitution that if it was allow to be discussed in 1999 that it would never pass.

I have read the 1999 constitution 6 times so far. and compare to the other consitution. It is a piece of rubbish. It is not acceptable to we southerner. It makes us permanent slave to northerners.

international conventions and agreements BETWEEN sovereign States

When and where, Kosovo is now a sovereign States.
Armenia is now a sovereign States.
Azerbaijan is now a sovereign States.
Belarus is now a sovereign States.
Georgia is now a sovereign States.

Estonia is now a sovereign States.

Kazakhstan is now a sovereign States.
Latvia is now a sovereign States.

Lithuania is now a sovereign States.

Moldova is now a sovereign States.

Russia is now a sovereign States.

Ukraine is now a sovereign States.

Uzbekistan is now a sovereign States.


There is no sure international conventions, i know off, if not why are this nation part of the United nation, where they part of the international conventions.


On transfer of land to benin republic, fashola can do what ever if feel he want with the land . if he feel he want the land in benin republic he can. Even the 1999 consititution does not define the geography location of nigeria. And nigeria law only gives abuja to the federal govt.

Look fashola or akala or bukola saraki can take back land from the federal republic of nigeria. and it is legal. Do you people write the constitution.


get that into your head fashola or any governor can give what entrust to him to republic of benin. But believe this 1999 constitution is invalid.


Nowhere in the 1999 constitution does it give the land to the federal govt.

look there is a reason why the land issue is so and would remain so. The igbos or the yorubas or ijaw are not willing and would never give abuja our land. You would need to kill the last yoruba man or igboman to turn over our land to the abuja(northerners).

The igbos or the yorubas or ijaw are not willing and would never give abuja our land. You would need to kill the last yoruba man or igboman to turn over our land to the abuja(northerners).

Why does Ibadan have to be a state?

Ibadan state? Nonsense thread!!!

Why does Ibadan have to be a state?

To get more federal allocation which will help bring more development to the area. It's actually beneficial. Ibadan alone is more populated than Kebbi and zamfara states joined together, why can't it be a state?

Na only ibadan state.What about ogbomosho state  

Na only ibadan state.What about ogbomosho state

Very soon.