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Re: The Igbos And APGA In Political Wilderness: Political Hara-kiri by dotna(m): 7:34am On Mar 31, 2015
So much was said
Re: The Igbos And APGA In Political Wilderness: Political Hara-kiri by warripekin(m): 7:41am On Mar 31, 2015
With d election won and lost, igbos just found their rhythm. 1. Their alliance with the south south will mushroom and stay strong. 2. They have proven they can battle in Lagos and get results so no one can take them for granted. 3 Because they are likely to vote as a unit, come 2019 after buharis massive failure,they will be like the proverbial pride well sort after by all.This election shows that igbos know what they want even if they don't get it,they will at least fight. Neglect them at your own peril. Finally, they have a lot to gain from what just happened . As for Yorubas this election has shown them to be neither here nor there . Gej got 43% of Yoruba votes. But what I appreciate about Yorubas, they will be the first to cry out once buharis government does not favour them. Biggest loosers in all these are the middle belters. It looks like they never cease to be controlled by the Hausa Fulani. Their is serious leadership crisis in the middle belt.

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Re: The Igbos And APGA In Political Wilderness: Political Hara-kiri by Texcoco(m): 7:42am On Mar 31, 2015
Texcoco:
Please spare us your holier than thou craprigging allegations, noting fully well your bitter disappointment at having your southwest APC states advantage wiped off by that the single odd state in the much maligned SE/SS.That shows we are not to be taken for granted by any politician in the centre
Inaddition to that, the igbos have fared better without any strong representatives in the centre, we have before and we will always.Most importantly, we now have the full cooperation and friendship with the SS given how we plunged our fate with them this election.A serious development enemies will be at pains to break up.

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Re: The Igbos And APGA In Political Wilderness: Political Hara-kiri by EcoTerror: 7:50am On Mar 31, 2015
pendicle:
Politics is all about the choice we make individually and collectively. The Igbos are seen as astute businessmen and women and really need a lot of tutoring in political sophistry and education.

For Anambra Central people to choose a neophyte going to the senate for the first time to rep them in the Senate over a Two-term senator shows how naïve and politically unaware they are, even if Ngige's APC lose the General Election as thought by the Igbos, they would have benefitted with him being a Principal officer of the Senate even under a PDP government and probably be in contention for Senate Presidency if APC wins. The Senate Presidency by right should be zoned to the South since the Presidency is zoned to the North. Amaechi is fighting tooth and nail to get Magnus Abe into the Senate to fulfil that. It would have been between Ngige and Abe because the South west is holding the Vice presidential ticket. But the Igbos in Anambra central voted against their own best choice because he belonged to an Amala and a Boko Haram party. Whose lost now?

APGA as a Party have outrightly and foolishly rendered itself impotent by the foolishness of campaigning for GEJ at every political rallies and all their candidates carrying the picture of GEJ in all their posters and singing his praise in every rally. You're inadventently telling your supporters especially unelightened ones both parties are the same which will cause electoral loss to one of the two parties but with the one holding the bigger ticket as the most likely to benefit. A lesson in history with the Alliance for Democracy adopting Obasanjo's PDP as their candidate led to the defeat of their 5 governors who were unfortunate to have the Presidential and Gubernatorial Elections holding same day, they all lost except Tinubu then who was tactical by not openly campaigning for Obasanjo in Lagos. Lagos had most void votes then for the presidential election because many still picked AD for president with Tinubu as Governor. That episode led to the end of AD in the South West and Tinubu became the colossus he became today.


I'm hurt that the likes of Ngige, Izunazo and others who were treated like outcast by their own would have been part of the National Assembly but then they will be well compensated but it is the lost of the Igbo nation and they just shut the door on their 2019 or 2023 Presidential dream because the APC will remain the dominant party in Nigeria for a very very long time because they are now condemned to deliver more now than ever.


...... pendy79.
nice gibberish, continue to masturbate on other regions palaver.

The ibos chose who they will support and stood by it, I'm a yoruba and and I ll always support GEJ to the end.

Don't force people to toe your line of reasoning because you don't know their plans, In Ogun state the people voted in Kashamu who OBJ has been witchunting, does it make us foolish or stupid.
Take your piece and shove it down your stupid arsse.

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Re: The Igbos And APGA In Political Wilderness: Political Hara-kiri by ACM10: 7:50am On Mar 31, 2015
You called Hon. Uche Ekwunife a political neophyte? You must be new to Nigeria political landscape.
Re: The Igbos And APGA In Political Wilderness: Political Hara-kiri by LordMecuzy(m): 7:50am On Mar 31, 2015
warripekin:
With d election won and lost, igbos just found their rhythm. 1. Their alliance with the south south will mushroom and stay strong. 2. They have proven they can battle in Lagos and get results so no one can take them for granted. 3 Because they are likely to vote as a unit, come 2019 after buharis massive failure,they will be like the proverbial pride well sort after by all.This election shows that igbos know what they want even if they don't get it,they will at least fight. Neglect them at your own peril. Finally, they have a lot to gain from what just happened . As for Yorubas this election has shown them to be neither here nor there . Gej got 43% of Yoruba votes. But what I appreciate about Yorubas, they will be the first to cry out once buharis government does not favour them. Biggest loosers in all these are the middle belters. It looks like they never cease to be controlled by the Hausa Fulani. Their is serious leadership crisis in the middle belt.

Igbos will decamp to APC... I know my brodas so well... Any govt in power..... We ain't a serious political block yet

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Re: The Igbos And APGA In Political Wilderness: Political Hara-kiri by warripekin(m): 7:54am On Mar 31, 2015
Texcoco:
Inaddition to that, the igbos have fared better without any strong representatives in the centre, we have before and we will always.Most importantly, we now have the full cooperation and friendship with the SS given how we plunged our fate with them this election.A serious development enemies will be at pains to break up.
The alliance will not only blossom, it will be feared. Besides once Bohari is announced as the winner of this election, expect a kaiama declaration. Boharis government will be grossly sabotaged just as the hausas did Jonathans

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Re: The Igbos And APGA In Political Wilderness: Political Hara-kiri by Texcoco(m): 8:00am On Mar 31, 2015
warripekin:

The alliance will not only blossom, it will be feared. Besides once Bohari is announced as the winner of this election, expect a kaiama declaration. Boharis government will be grossly sabotaged just as the hausas did Jonathans
As simple as that...either way we the SS/SE will survive as an entity as the walls of Nigeria crumbles round our ears in the ensuing economic chaos brought upon by militancy and crude oil supply stoppages.
Re: The Igbos And APGA In Political Wilderness: Political Hara-kiri by EcoTerror: 8:05am On Mar 31, 2015
This pendicle is so myopic and thinks everyone should support what everybody else is supporting.
Nigeria is still a baby democracy, APGA is also learning and will bounce back in due course, GMB has not been declared winner and its too early to count your chickens now.

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Re: The Igbos And APGA In Political Wilderness: Political Hara-kiri by EcoTerror: 8:06am On Mar 31, 2015
Fayose will complete his tenure and there is still darkness hovering which in your myopic and razz brain you can't fathom

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Re: The Igbos And APGA In Political Wilderness: Political Hara-kiri by tbaba1234: 8:08am On Mar 31, 2015
The SE supports the Government in power historically. APC will be a stronger party in the SE in 2019. Ngige will probably end up with a ministerial portfolio.

I couldn't believe orji won the senate seat. While the people of Benue punished suswam by defeating him in a landslide. Somehow, Abia people rewarded Orji with a senate seat.

It is a big political risk campaigning for another party. APGA should have left PDP to campaign for themselves.

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Re: The Igbos And APGA In Political Wilderness: Political Hara-kiri by asala1: 8:09am On Mar 31, 2015
eCollynzo:
Meanwhile this is how Yorubas voted, after all the noise from people like the OP.
State APC PDP
Ekiti 120 331 176 466
Lagos 792 460 633 327
Ogun 308 290 207 950
Ondo 299 899 251 368
Osun 383 603 249 929
Oyo 528 620 303 376
Total 2 433 193 1 822 416
Buhari 57% GEJ 43%

Difference = 610 777
Anambra votes for GEJ alone exceeded cancelled this and added some more.

This what is called a civil election, not people rigging anyhow cause the needed to prove a point.

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Re: The Igbos And APGA In Political Wilderness: Political Hara-kiri by Texcoco(m): 8:10am On Mar 31, 2015
pendicle:


Yeah, you pulled so much weight the presidency was decided by your coalition of weight pullers.

You won a REP seat in Lagos in an area populated by Igbos and dominated by OPC /aggrived/anti tinubu yorubas. With the persistent and permanent movement of the Presidency to Lagos and the huge dollarization of Lagos by jonaTAN I think he deserved a Senate seat for all his sleeplessness and wastefulness. Lagos is still and will always remain APC

Nothing worth celebrating for the PDP in the SW aside Ekiti so what is the issue here. For APC to sweep ondo clean hmmm. Watch as Fayose is impeached and made accountable soon
We noticed your obvious pain and disappointment dismissing the epic situation of Lagos represented by not only one 'igbo' but FOUR in the HOR, putting the blame on everything and everybody but not yourselves.We believe that is the true representation of Lagos, then you look at the strong bond we have forged with the SS,sweeping off your 'kingmaker status' into oblivion(see how little states Ebonyi and Abia landslide swept off your advantage in Osun,Oyo,Oyo,Ondo even Lagos combined).Noting how notoriously politically unreliable and unstable your people are, what would it take for a northern rival to court and galvanise we?? Or maybe Buhari dumpin you and securing his position with a trusted,tested and stable foundation?
Re: The Igbos And APGA In Political Wilderness: Political Hara-kiri by asala1: 8:11am On Mar 31, 2015
Texcoco:
Inaddition to that, the igbos have fared better without any strong representatives in the centre, we have before and we will always.Most importantly, we now have the full cooperation and friendship with the SS given how we plunged our fate with them this election.A serious development enemies will be at pains to break up.

That is why we saw the commissioning of a brand new 2nd Niger bridge. Congrats man.

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Re: The Igbos And APGA In Political Wilderness: Political Hara-kiri by tbaba1234: 8:16am On Mar 31, 2015
Texcoco:
We noticed your obvious pain and disappointment dismissing the epic situation of Lagos represented by not only one 'igbo' but FOUR in the HOR, putting the blame on everything and everybody but not yourselves.We believe that is the true representation of Lagos, then you look at the strong bond we have forged with the SS,sweeping off your 'kingmaker status' into oblivion.Noting how notoriously politically unreliable and unstable your people are what we would it take for a northern rival to court and galvanise we?? Or maybe Buhari dumpin you and securing his position with a trusted,tested and stable foundation?

I think, the Lagos situation is a good thing. We are finally having a cosmopolitan state.

Perhaps with time, the phenomenon spreads.
Re: The Igbos And APGA In Political Wilderness: Political Hara-kiri by Texcoco(m): 8:18am On Mar 31, 2015
asala1:


That is why we saw the commissioning of a brand new 2nd Niger bridge. Congrats man.
We fail to follow you,try to be elaborate..
Re: The Igbos And APGA In Political Wilderness: Political Hara-kiri by azzima(m): 8:20am On Mar 31, 2015
eCollynzo:
Meanwhile this is how Yorubas voted, after all the noise from people like the OP.
State APC PDP
Ekiti 120 331 176 466
Lagos 792 460 633 327
Ogun 308 290 207 950
Ondo 299 899 251 368
Osun 383 603 249 929
Oyo 528 620 303 376
Total 2 433 193 1 822 416
Buhari 57% GEJ 43%

Difference = 610 777
Anambra votes for GEJ alone exceeded cancelled this and added some more.
dummy, this is where the Yorubas are smarter unlike the ibos. Anyway this election goes, Yorubas will always win, be it PDP OR APC because we all didn't put all our eggs in 1 BASKET. That my friend is what you call POLITICAL CALCULATIONS.!!!!

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Re: The Igbos And APGA In Political Wilderness: Political Hara-kiri by sinkhole: 8:22am On Mar 31, 2015
Some people are still strongheaded after all these!
The popularity of APC in the SW gave some people a lot of confidence in the NC and it really boosted the morals of the core North! If SW had rejected APC Im telling you many people would have followed suit in the NC and the core north would have been demoralized, so its not about the number of votes from the SW! Igbos have made themselves enemies of Nigeria and I do not think they are much liked across the country.

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Re: The Igbos And APGA In Political Wilderness: Political Hara-kiri by Texcoco(m): 8:24am On Mar 31, 2015
tbaba1234:


I think, the Lagos situation is a good thing. We are finally having a cosmopolitan state.

Perhaps with time, the phenomenon spreads.

Tis a good thing if not a consolation for you but most definately a victory for democracy.
Re: The Igbos And APGA In Political Wilderness: Political Hara-kiri by warripekin(m): 8:25am On Mar 31, 2015
tbaba1234:
The SE supports the Government in power historically. APC will be a stronger party in the SE in 2019. Ngige will probably end up with a ministerial portfolio.

I couldn't believe orji won the senate seat. While the people of Benue punished suswam by defeating him in a landslide. Somehow, Abia people rewarded Orji with a senate seat.

It is a big political risk campaigning for another party. APGA should have left PDP to campaign for themselves.
Not this time. Not when they will be a fearsome opposition.
Re: The Igbos And APGA In Political Wilderness: Political Hara-kiri by azzima(m): 8:29am On Mar 31, 2015
Raiders:
Rochas plan has always be to become President of Nigeria. He contested the pdp presidential primary before and also contested the APC primary election this yr. I think Rochas is just contesting for Imo state governorship election so as to be politically relevant in 2019. I believe APC Will likely zone the presidency or vice to the east when Buhari steps down and Rochas will be the likely Easterner to get their ticket.
I just hope Imo state vote for him next month. He hasn't done really bad as a governor.
zone 2019 to EAST?? You can't reap where you didn't sow. The voting attitudes of Ibos during this election (do or die even more than the ijaws sef)has proven that that side of Nigeria doesn't deserve attention AT ALL. This election has furthermore proven that even 120% of their votes is not needed in ANY election. They have proven themselves irrelevant in Nigeria's politics. All a candidate needs is the north and Southwest and GBAM it is all over. That my friend, is POLITICAL WISDOM AND NOT SENTIMENTS.

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Re: The Igbos And APGA In Political Wilderness: Political Hara-kiri by demelza: 8:30am On Mar 31, 2015
pendicle:


Or George Akume. APC winning Benue is such a huge surprise to everyone within the party hierarchy. Thanks to Gemade and Akume.

Watch the Police IG and the military behave properly on the 11th of April. They no born them well to do as they did last Saturday knowing the next commander in chief already have enough grudges against them.

Watch AIT and NTA start withdrawing their praiseworshipping of the PDP and GEJ from today.
The way this your post sweet me ehn....
I need to take some agbo to counter the jedi jedi that may arise.
Re: The Igbos And APGA In Political Wilderness: Political Hara-kiri by themano: 8:31am On Mar 31, 2015
MzJackBaueress:
With Buhari elected as our new president under APC,I see Igbos voting massively for APC in the southeast in the governorship elections.
That is the last opportunity they have to make up for their votes against APC in the presidential elections.

Rochas must not be voted out! Imo people must be wise.
Oh this dreamer
Re: The Igbos And APGA In Political Wilderness: Political Hara-kiri by azzima(m): 8:36am On Mar 31, 2015
Texcoco:
Inaddition to that, the igbos have fared better without any strong representatives in the centre, we have before and we will always.Most importantly, we now have the full cooperation and friendship with the SS given how we plunged our fate with them this election.A serious development enemies will be at pains to break up.
LOSER'S SECOND PLACE CONCESSION, just to make himself feel better after losing. I understand your pain Bruv.
Re: The Igbos And APGA In Political Wilderness: Political Hara-kiri by PointB: 8:36am On Mar 31, 2015
Texcoco:
Laughable attempts at "divide and rule" tactics on the igbo even now that they are ever more united with the SS as ever in the history of this country....Now political pundits and politicians especially northerners won't take us for granted, go figure Federal reps for Lagos.Whoever wins this would owe it a thing of expiediency to court the igbos/ss because we don dey pull weight.


Very well said!


Whether Igbo voted for APC or not is largely immaterial, Buhari was rejected by Igbo and South South on principled grounds. There is nothing to regret about that, given another chance, we would repeat it.

I would certainly like to see how National Assembly position will be shared especially now that there is no Igbo APC rep in the Senatorial Zone, hopefully none too for the lower house. It sure would make an interesting permutation.

@op,

What did Ngige achieve for Ndi Igbo while he was in the National Assembly? Why should he be rewarded for non-performance. Ndi Igbo have chosen Okunife to represent their interest so be it. It is not entirely bad to be in opposition.
Re: The Igbos And APGA In Political Wilderness: Political Hara-kiri by themano: 8:39am On Mar 31, 2015
pendicle:


Hallucination is when you feel the massive rigging did for GEJ in the South South and South East matter to anyone.
Despite the huge population of Hausas in Enugu PDP is telling us APC could not muster 10000 despite fielding candidates for every elective post in the state.

You guys just taught the Northerners to always use up their number of registered voters during an election instead of accredited voters in 2019. Watch Kano pull 5million votes in 2019 with APC controlling the police and the military like the PDP used them this year .

Its a vicious cycle and the pendulum have swing to the other side watch it remain there for a very long time.
Pls shut up. So you don't know the north rigs election. When my kids age mates line up to vote since time immemorial. Do you know what would have happened if the borders weren't shut on Thursday? Next election pls go to a remote northern village and observe elections. Your views about one nigeria will change drastically I assure you.

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Re: The Igbos And APGA In Political Wilderness: Political Hara-kiri by Texcoco(m): 8:42am On Mar 31, 2015
azzima:
LOSER'S SECOND PLACE CONCESSION, just to make himself feel better after losing. I understand your pain Bruv.
Smallie, go play with your play station and let grown men chat on the likely scenario that you might trade your toy for food as this fragile mono 'crude oil' economy is sabotaged...
Re: The Igbos And APGA In Political Wilderness: Political Hara-kiri by cooljude(m): 8:51am On Mar 31, 2015
I am proud of Igbos for making their choice known. Whether they win or loose it is ok. Live goes on and i know that individually Igbos would continue to thrive.

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Re: The Igbos And APGA In Political Wilderness: Political Hara-kiri by asala1: 9:01am On Mar 31, 2015
Texcoco:
We fail to follow you,try to be elaborate..

I be road?
Re: The Igbos And APGA In Political Wilderness: Political Hara-kiri by eCollynzo: 9:24am On Mar 31, 2015
ba7man:
You're right. APGA is already showing signs of being more than just a regional party.

That unholy alliance with PDP robbed it of being sucessful that they should have been during this election.

They should learn to be independent now and not suck @ss like they did with PDP.

You can see how PDP backstabed them to rob them of various elected seats. They don't give a sh1t bout u guys.
If I had to choose between the two, I would have given up the Reps and senatorial seats for governorship.
Thank God the Governorship and Presidential elections weren't held on the same day like in 2003 when AD suffered
Re: The Igbos And APGA In Political Wilderness: Political Hara-kiri by eCollynzo: 9:29am On Mar 31, 2015
azzima:
dummy, this is where the Yorubas are smarter unlike the ibos. Anyway this election goes, Yorubas will always win, be it PDP OR APC because we all didn't put all our eggs in 1 BASKET. That my friend is what you call POLITICAL CALCULATIONS.!!!!
If only you said this when you guys were making noise all over the internet about APC.
My guy a time will come when being neither here nor there will work against you and I believe that time is here already.
It pays to keep to your words, it pays to be trustworthy for good or for bad.
Remember what even the bible about being Lukewarm?
Re: The Igbos And APGA In Political Wilderness: Political Hara-kiri by superstar1(m): 9:35am On Mar 31, 2015
eCollynzo:
Meanwhile this is how Yorubas voted, after all the noise from people like the OP.
State APC PDP
Ekiti 120 331 176 466
Lagos 792 460 633 327
Ogun 308 290 207 950
Ondo 299 899 251 368
Osun 383 603 249 929
Oyo 528 620 303 376
Total 2 433 193 1 822 416
Buhari 57% GEJ 43%

Difference = 610 777
Anambra votes for GEJ alone exceeded cancelled this and added some more.

You are a political neophyte.

What does that result tells you? It tells a sane mind that no party has the region on a lock down. It puts the parties on their toes to perform effectively and efficiently.

That is the joker. The masses will reap good governance from this type of results than a bloc vote for a political party.

All of you always believe Tinubu has a hold on SW. Let me disappoint you, he does not. Yes he is a master strategist and visionary, I give that to him. That does not mean he won't lose his ward when he oversteps his bounds. Ask OBJ he will tell you.

We vote for the personality and not the party per se. That is why there will always be a mixed representation in SW, which brings competition, performance of elected political office holders and good governance for the masses.

Bloc votes put you at a disadvantage.

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