@Joshthefirst

To you, isn't the fact God always existed a conclusion? If it is so, how was the conclusion made?

Joshthefirst:
God is not "something". He always existed. He is not a component of various parts. So the question of the OP is meaningless.

why is "god" a "he" If it's not a component of parts?

davien:
why is "god" a "he" If it's not a component of parts?

He is only a "he" because we choose to refer to I'm in that way

Joshthefirst:
He is only a "he" because we choose to refer to I'm in that way

So does "god" have a gender?

Joshthefirst:
He is only a "he" because we choose to refer to I'm in that way

That goes a long way to show its just human invention...

gatiano:
Elijah Muhammad is not wrong. Everything He said has been proven. Yet He is not 100% right, The idea of one person been 100% right was and is till the cause of so much bloodshed. Elijah Muhammad was the first that said it publicly that GOD the creator did not make things perfect, We are on a road to perfection. Yet in perfection, we will continue to go on seeking perfection. particle has no ending, there is no microscopic instrument that can be made to see the end of particle or the smallest particle.

It is a fact that the non-blacks are just 6000 years old, precisely 6101 years. They don't know nothing outside 6000 years ago, every other thing is a guess. The blacks however know for a fact what was, and what is to come.

Blackman has both good and evil in himself, The evil was locked down inside him by the dominant black germ, There was no albinism in existence, yet He knew the concept of it. He also knew there was a reccessive gene inside of him.
For the blackman to bring that recessive genes upwards, he left civilization. He did that on purpose, Yet he didn't loose his mind, he couldn't do that much evil except to hunt for animals for food. He made from himself those that would teach him evil, and that teaching was for a time 6000 years. What evil does the whiteman know today, that we don't? name one. and i mean evil.

Evil is not just killing, stealing, fornicating or adultery, evil is also weakness, lack of mental strength, niggardly behaviour, eating wrong food and eating too much, looking on women as secondary people, etc the list is long. Fear is evil.

You can't equate what Elijah Muhammad taught as spookism until you can proof him wrong. He proved the old liars wrong, He gave the correct interpretation to both the bible and Quran. You will have to proof him wrong first. And brother, i'm always ready to hear it.

Elijah Mohammed was not wrong?
So Elijah Mohammed has taken on the same delusions of infallability christian screen and pius fraudsters?
You have just proven that a black man, you are always looking for a master, a demigod to adore and worship. If it's not Jesus, or Mohammed, then now Elijah Mohammed.
Irrespective of how sensible some of your posts are, you are still cult follower.

How does seeking knowledge makes one a cult follower?

Within the post that you reply to are some questions, could you please answer them?
What evil is known amongst the Black people that you know of that was not copied from the non-black people?
What evil have they done in this their short life that we haven't experience.

On the issue of our forgetfulness, can you tell me in your parent's language the first 50 elements in the periodic table? if that is too hard, we are a people that use a lot of herbs and barks, can you tell what those compound within the herbs are called? Our forefathers knew.

How exactly do you mean Elijah Muhammad also fall for a demigod? i really want to know.

plaetton:

Elijah Mohammed was not wrong?
So Elijah Mohammed has taken on the same delusions of infallability christian screen and pius fraudsters?
You have just proven that a black man, you are always looking for a master, a demigod to adore and worship. If it's not Jesus, or Mohammed, then now Elijah Mohammed.
Irrespective of how sensible some of your posts are, you are still cult follower.

davien:
So does "god" have a gender?

No. Of course he doesn't.

Kay17:
@Joshthefirst

To you, isn't the fact God always existed a conclusion? If it is so, how was the conclusion made?

It was made based on accounts you would reject or argue away.

Joshthefirst:
No. Of course he doesn't.

Then wouldn't "god" be an "it" then?

Joshthefirst:
God is not "something". He always existed. He is not a component of various parts. So the question of the OP is meaningless.

But God has a mind, and the ability to be omnipotent is not incidental to a mind, therefore we have deduced two parts: the mind and the will.

Kay17:


But God has a mind, and the ability to be omnipotent is not incidental to a mind, therefore we have deduced two parts: the mind and the will.

A mind has a will. A will is not a different component from the mind. Who told you God has a mind? Do you now believe in God?

Joshthefirst:
A mind has a will. A will is not a different component from the mind. Who told you God has a mind? Do you now believe in God?

The mind does the function of envisaging and projecting action, but the actually 'doing' and action is done by the will. The point I am trying to make is, there is a division of function within God.

Kay17:
As a general principle, Being is a component of parts and by its necessary complexity must come to exist by a precedent entity which makes up its complexity. This general principle applies to The Universe, the water cycle, man but theists refuse to apply this to God. God is clearly a being and therefore a composite of parts. God has the mind to direct and the power to effect. There ought to (following the general principle) be a some sort of direction that brought these two parts together otherwise a coincidence.

I eagerly await replies.

God in His wisdom put examples of creations that remind us of Him. Think of black holes for example. It is said nothing can break the light speed barrier yet the speed at which matter is sucked into black holes is so great that even light cannot escape this pull. Physicists have mentioned that the laws of Physics breaks down at the event horizon of black holes and this is a clear case where the regular principles that one is aware of completely breaks down. I see God as a singularity as well. Our rationality is only reasonable to a limited degree and it is only when man attains transcendence can he attempt to comprehend the rationality in the domain of divinity.