Stormtrooper11:

$1 million with operational time of 32hrs

Stormtrooper11:

In the next 10 years,ucav(s) would be a very important part of developed airforces worldwide.its the future.we gotta key into this technology and reap its benefits.am not sayin' we should go totally unmanned,but we can incoporate the ucav into the system,which would help reduce operational costs.

kikuyu1:


Thanks! Its very true and invalidates the whole Chosen Land narrative the Impostors always bleat and yet many here still don't get it.
Bnei Menashe could be counted among the Originals but In 110% sure they we're as Black African as THE Egyptians.

Faithful007:
you make a lot of points but miss one simple thing, drones and attack aircraft are not interchangeable. They do two different things. Drones are used for high value precision strikes where extensive isr has been done to identify the person, and whether he or she is the target, the are also used for precision bombing to enable troop advance, actually drones have a relatively high operational cost due to equipment required to support it. Also drones don't carry guns and unguided munitions for air support. Do you know the cost of precision weapons? Also drones cannot be used in intense battlefields as they are not manverable and the pilot lacks the necessary situational awareness because he/she is remote. That said, drones are not useful for pounding fleeing terrorists. They have their own specialty.

komekn:


I would add to what you have said using Turkey as a case study.

Turkey has proven beyond all doubt and raised the game. With its comprehensive wiping of the Syrian army in a matter of days. Primarily anchored on its UAV'S.

The Assad regime suffered heavy losses as a result of the drone campaign: 3,000 soldiers, 151 tanks, eight helicopters, three drones, three fighter jets (including two Russian-made Sukhoi Su-24s), around 100 armored military vehicles and trucks, eight aerial defense systems, 86 cannons and howitzers, ammunition trucks and dumps, and one headquarters, among other military equipment and facilities.
https://www.mei.edu/publications/fight-syrias-skies-turkey-challenges-russia-new-drone-doctrine

In addition these same drones have removed Haftar from his position of dominance to one of humiliation and retreat in Libya.

What I am saying is that UAV technology is changing VERY RAPIDLY the entire battlefield management and strategy.

UAV are the current FUTURE, with zero risk to pilots. Turkey has added another dimension electro magnetic warfare, as a consequence rendering the previously dreaded Russian pantsir air defence system effectively impotent.

The latest UAV by Turkey is the Akinci (Raider) which remains the most noteworthy asset of the next generation Turkish unmanned airpower. Produced by Baykar, the Akinci has a payload of 1,350kg of multiple precision weaponry.

Boko for now do not have anything to shoot down anything at high and even medium altitude so UAV technology will dominate unopposed. Which means Boko will struggle to operate and be very limited in what the can do.

Toju200:
my Brother it is more than that

bidex111:
“The precision offered by laser-guided bombs and the ability to strike at night means that ‘enemies know that they can hide anywhere, but not from A-29.’”

Can’t wait for this babies to be inducted !

kikuyu1:


Thanks! Its very true and invalidates the whole Chosen Land narrative the Impostors always bleat and yet many here still don't get it.
Bnei Menashe could be counted among the Originals but In 110% sure they we're as Black African as THE Egyptians.

komekn:


Actually UAV's are more suited to intense battlefield contention because if thier precision munitions.

But in reality IMO air power is more suited to conventional warfare not a COIN.

Boko are not going around in MBT, IFV or exchanging long range artillery fire. 95% of them are hitting us with AK47's, GMPG, grenades then the 5% is rickety gun trucks mounted with HMG not stabilised, Rpg7's and a lesser extent SVBIED, IED'S.

We should have forward bases from where search and destroy missions are despatched in 10/15 IFV'S, LAV,s APC'S and need be MBTs to support when needed. They should be semi autonomous night and day looking to take out Boko.

Why are we approaching it like it's conventional warfare. Boko are not running a caliphate they are fluid on the move. So we need to be as fluid and flexible as well, not in static position firing artillery from a distance.

komekn:


I would add to what you have said using Turkey as a case study.

Turkey has proven beyond all doubt and raised the game. With its comprehensive wiping of the Syrian army in a matter of days. Primarily anchored on its UAV'S.

The Assad regime suffered heavy losses as a result of the drone campaign: 3,000 soldiers, 151 tanks, eight helicopters, three drones, three fighter jets (including two Russian-made Sukhoi Su-24s), around 100 armored military vehicles and trucks, eight aerial defense systems, 86 cannons and howitzers, ammunition trucks and dumps, and one headquarters, among other military equipment and facilities.
https://www.mei.edu/publications/fight-syrias-skies-turkey-challenges-russia-new-drone-doctrine

In addition these same drones have removed Haftar from his position of dominance to one of humiliation and retreat in Libya.

What I am saying is that UAV technology is changing VERY RAPIDLY the entire battlefield management and strategy.

UAV are the current FUTURE, with zero risk to pilots. Turkey has added another dimension electro magnetic warfare, as a consequence rendering the previously dreaded Russian pantsir air defence system effectively impotent.

The latest UAV by Turkey is the Akinci (Raider) which remains the most noteworthy asset of the next generation Turkish unmanned airpower. Produced by Baykar, the Akinci has a payload of 1,350kg of multiple precision weaponry.

Boko for now do not have anything to shoot down anything at high and even medium altitude so UAV technology will dominate unopposed. Which means Boko will struggle to operate and be very limited in what the can do.

spetsnaz:
Nigerian army will always embarras you.
This is how we treat our men in the frontlines. Sad, but some thieving Generals will have the guts to loot money meant for their men.

https://dailypost.ng/2020/06/21/release-approved-funds-zakari-sani-captain-attacked-by-herdsmen-begs-nigerian-army/

Stormtrooper11:
Had it been some of you guys existed in the 80's and 90's as defense analysts,you would have opposed the use of light COIN aircraft like the super tucano,and prefer bomber aircrafts.
Thats how this UCAV case is.we just sayin' UCAV is very suitable for COIN warfare like ours.we are fighting a war of attrition.we need to reduce operational costs

Toju200:
they deploy the drones for high value targets...
The Turboprop aircrafts are experimental cos the need something for COIN
Once they find what suits their need of course it will come in Large Numbers..
It has little value yet they are looking for the right one for COIN operations.

GeneralFarouq:

You urself said it was experimental, so why should they acquire lots of its.
So far afghans use it, and looking at the spec of this aircraft, even a layman knows it is an authority in coin...
Most especially for developing militaries,, unlike drones, it is cheaper to run, and can both be used as offensive in safe flight Zones like BH and a training platform
Most especially, this baby can dance in the air ling enough with a lot of rain to water targets on ground.

"The sturdy, propeller-driven Super Tucano is a perfect fit for the operational requirements, physical environments and budget limitations of U.S. partner countries. The Super Tucano is currently operated as a light attack/ISR platform by more than a dozen countries including Angola, Brazil, Burkina Faso, Chile, Colombia, the Dominican Republic, Ecuador, Ghana, Honduras, Indonesia, Mali, Mauritania, the Philippines, and Senegal.

The A-29 was built precisely for the kind of conflicts and operating environments relevant to most U.S. partners. Based on a competitive procurement, in 2013 the U.S. Air Force awarded a contract for the A-29 to be provided to the Afghan Air Force (AAF)"

bidex111:
“The precision offered by laser-guided bombs and the ability to strike at night means that ‘enemies know that they can hide anywhere, but not from A-29.’”

Can’t wait for this babies to be inducted !

komekn:


That attributes is not unique to the A29 that ability is [/b]very much available to all NAF fighter jet.[b] If you want to upgrade the Isreals Elbit Systems can put in a new WDNS that is comparable or exceeds the A29 on our very reliable Alpha jets.

However, fighter jet is much faster and you don't hear it until it's gone. Has a bigger payload, for instance the Alpha Jet is close to 3000kg compared to the A29's 1500kg.

The loud humming drone from the much slower A29 turboprop can be heard from miles away. Particularly if it flies at medium to low altitude.

This experimental aircraft by the USAF is very good but it's not unique or the best by any standard. However, it is definitely the most EXPENSIVE in the world.

It is still being experimented upon and as you can see below.

dragon2:
Drones are not attack platforms.Look at drone designs, air platforms with large long perpendicular wing are designed for high altitude slow speed operations.This is far from what attack platform look like and is more suited for surveillance and taking out HVT ( high value targets) This is the function of these drones,this is what they do. when the US ground forces call in air strikes for CAS it is not Drones that arrives.Drone strikes require lots of preplanned Hummit because the pilots awareness is limited.
Attack aircraft are akin to the regular GI,while drones are to snipers.
Snipers take out high value targets and are deployed away from regulars.
If you are talking about drones for surveillance go ahead and buy, but for attack? please, they are not designed from the onset for attack on ground forces in a battle field, there are platform for that.
The U.S. airforce don't want Tucanos because they already have warthogs. Anyway,the US airforce don't like being called into battle by the army for CAS,they like to make their own decisions than being seen as second to army.
Again,drones are not ground attack platforms but surveillance with limited attack of HVT. If the US saw drones as attack platforms they will retire the Apache,warthog and blackhawk

komekn:


Look at how many UAV the USAF have and how often they are deployed.

Then how many light turboprop aircraft they have, don't think they are up 30. That in USAF means negligible and of very little significance and or value.

So the person you are buying the product from doesn't use it or value it. What does that make you who is buying it.

komekn:
I am watching TVC news now reporting about Borno and this insurgency.

Some things they are saying l find VERY HARD to believe. For instance 5 local government arras are completely without any control by government literally abandoned.

The Governor has not been to his home town since 2014.

Babajide is giving his own eye witness account he even talks about an incident where 150+ soldiers were killed in one incident.

This is very very hard to believe.

komekn:


I would add to what you have said using Turkey as a case study.

Turkey has proven beyond all doubt and raised the game. With its comprehensive wiping of the Syrian army in a matter of days. Primarily anchored on its UAV'S.

The Assad regime suffered heavy losses as a result of the drone campaign: 3,000 soldiers, 151 tanks, eight helicopters, three drones, three fighter jets (including two Russian-made Sukhoi Su-24s), around 100 armored military vehicles and trucks, eight aerial defense systems, 86 cannons and howitzers, ammunition trucks and dumps, and one headquarters, among other military equipment and facilities.
https://www.mei.edu/publications/fight-syrias-skies-turkey-challenges-russia-new-drone-doctrine

In addition these same drones have removed Haftar from his position of dominance to one of humiliation and retreat in Libya.

What I am saying is that UAV technology is changing VERY RAPIDLY the entire battlefield management and strategy.

UAV are the current FUTURE, with zero risk to pilots. Turkey has added another dimension electro magnetic warfare, as a consequence rendering the previously dreaded Russian pantsir air defence system effectively impotent.

The latest UAV by Turkey is the Akinci (Raider) which remains the most noteworthy asset of the next generation Turkish unmanned airpower. Produced by Baykar, the Akinci has a payload of 1,350kg of multiple precision weaponry.

Boko for now do not have anything to shoot down anything at high and even medium altitude so UAV technology will dominate unopposed. Which means Boko will struggle to operate and be very limited in what the can do.

komekn:
I am watching TVC news now reporting about Borno and this insurgency.

Some things they are saying l find VERY HARD to believe. For instance 5 local government arras are completely without any control by government literally abandoned.

The Governor has not been to his home town since 2014.

Babajide is giving his own eye witness account he even talks about an incident where 150+ soldiers were killed in one incident.

This is very very hard to believe.

komekn:


Take out Brazil because they make this aircraft themselves.

Look at the countries that you are using to give credence to the efficacy of this airframes. None of them are serious strategic partners of the USA and spend pennies on military expenditure. They are highly insignificant poor level associate countries.

Why did Isreal, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Qatar, UAE, Japan, South Korea, Canada and the entire NATO block as well as other European countries not adopt this aircraft as the best COIN aircraft.

Finally, how many A29 does the USAF have l confess to exaggeration it's nowhere near 30. Which is a paltry number by USAF standards.