komekn:


Would you liked me to give you a list of customers who have procured this now proven and tested as well as very EFFECTIVE UAV and then to add to that the cost effective is ASTOUNDING.

If you want to make a point make it on position based on reasoning that benefits the forum not on jibes without substance.

Finally, China is not Pakistan.

So because China said the BAIC BJ80 is better than the Mercedes- Benz. G-Wagon AMG 63.
You will therefore believe them because the look similar, from shameless copy engineering.

FieldMarshall06:


Well, I watched a video comparison of the JF-17 and the F-16 jets,,, and the only thing I was not happy about is the JF -17 was slightly underpowered.

I saw this live and other commenters said same, the F-16 jet engine had more thrust, hence F16 was slightly more agile. Even at that, the difference in performance was slight.

That was a Block 1 JF-17 that was used, but am hoping our Block 2 JF-17 would carry a much more powerful engine, to make it a very good jet.

Odunayaw:
Stop being so defensive boy! You're so salty yet full of slime


Was it not a Chinese product you're talking of here? Following your crooked analogy of "customers" you shot yourself in the nuts because the BJ80 is widely used! Are you saying now, "as far as it is widely used, it must be good"?

Now, you further exposed your ignorance by thinking the JFs are Pakistani jets.

komekn:


Are you suggesting that on the basis of a video in an air show you will make a deduction on the capacity, reliability and superiority by visual alone.

Thats shocking.

I could get a Innoson G80 ( Chinese assembled BAIC BJ80 ) pitch it against a Mercedes-Benz G-Wagon AMG 63 and visually you may not notice the difference that much. But i can assure if you drive them they are world apart.

My view is simplistic if nobody else has bought this aircraft apart from Mynmar, it tells us something. Then you consider that Pakistan does not have a long standing quality manufacturing and or technological base to underpin its production of this aircraft.

Would any of you buy a Pakistani made brand new car even if it was dirt cheap, there will still be a debate id rather have a 3/4 year proven established brand.

But that's the other problem, it is not dirt cheap, for what it is , it is way TOO EXPENSIVE.

In reality our long term strategic planning has been very weak we are waking up when the ships already set sail. These are things that should have done decades ago. We are probably down to a dozen operational fighter aircraft, and as a result the NAF lacks capacity to meet current threats forget about future projected ones.

My other issue is we are not the Gambia we have neighbors amassing weaponry at an exponential rate like Egypt, Algeria and we are looking at them like we are not bothered.

komekn:


Are you suggesting that on the basis of a video in an air show you will make a deduction on the capacity, reliability and superiority by visual alone.

Thats shocking.

I could get a Innoson G80 ( Chinese assembled BAIC BJ80 ) pitch it against a Mercedes-Benz G-Wagon AMG 63 and visually you may not notice the difference that much. But i can assure if you drive them they are world apart.

My view is simplistic if nobody else has bought this aircraft apart from Mynmar, it tells us something. Then you consider that Pakistan does not have a long standing quality manufacturing and or technological base to underpin its production of this aircraft.

Would any of you buy a Pakistani made brand new car even if it was dirt cheap, there will still be a debate id rather have a 3/4 year proven established brand.

But that's the other problem, it is not dirt cheap, for what it is , it is way TOO EXPENSIVE.

In reality our long term strategic planning has been very weak we are waking up when the ships already set sail. These are things that should have done decades ago. We are probably down to a dozen operational fighter aircraft, and as a result the NAF lacks capacity to meet current threats forget about future projected ones.

My other issue is we are not the Gambia we have neighbors amassing weaponry at an exponential rate like Egypt, Algeria and we are looking at them like we are not bothered.

komekn:


Are you suggesting that on the basis of a video in an air show you will make a deduction on the capacity, reliability and superiority by visual alone.

Thats shocking.

I could get a Innoson G80 ( Chinese assembled BAIC BJ80 ) pitch it against a Mercedes-Benz G-Wagon AMG 63 and visually you may not notice the difference that much. But i can assure if you drive them they are world apart.

My view is simplistic if nobody else has bought this aircraft apart from Mynmar, it tells us something. Then you consider that Pakistan does not have a long standing quality manufacturing and or technological base to underpin its production of this aircraft.

Would any of you buy a Pakistani made brand new car even if it was dirt cheap, there will still be a debate id rather have a 3/4 year proven established brand.

But that's the other problem, it is not dirt cheap, for what it is , it is way TOO EXPENSIVE.

In reality our long term strategic planning has been very weak we are waking up when the ships already set sail. These are things that should have done decades ago. We are probably down to a dozen operational fighter aircraft, and as a result the NAF lacks capacity to meet current threats forget about future projected ones.

My other issue is we are not the Gambia we have neighbors amassing weaponry at an exponential rate like Egypt, Algeria and we are looking at them like we are not bothered.

komekn:


Why must everything with you be rancorous and hostile To what purpose to increase the quality of discussion or to reduce it.

This is infantile behavior.

komekn post: If you want to make a point make it on position based on reasoning that benefits the forum not on jibes without substance

komekn:


Are you suggesting that on the basis of a video in an air show you will make a deduction on the capacity, reliability and superiority by visual alone.

Thats shocking.

I could get a Innoson G80 ( Chinese assembled BAIC BJ80 ) pitch it against a Mercedes-Benz G-Wagon AMG 63 and visually you may not notice the difference that much. But i can assure if you drive them they are world apart.

My view is simplistic if nobody else has bought this aircraft apart from Mynmar, it tells us something. Then you consider that Pakistan does not have a long standing quality manufacturing and or technological base to underpin its production of this aircraft.

Would any of you buy a Pakistani made brand new car even if it was dirt cheap, there will still be a debate id rather have a 3/4 year proven established brand.

But that's the other problem, it is not dirt cheap, for what it is , it is way TOO EXPENSIVE.

In reality our long term strategic planning has been very weak we are waking up when the ships already set sail. These are things that should have done decades ago. We are probably down to a dozen operational fighter aircraft, and as a result the NAF lacks capacity to meet current threats forget about future projected ones.

My other issue is we are not the Gambia we have neighbors amassing weaponry at an exponential rate like Egypt, Algeria and we are looking at them like we are not bothered.

SamuelAnyawu:
Attack ongoing in my current location .

May God bless all our Gallant soldiers moving to the front line with lots of Gun trucks




Gracias

SamuelAnyawu:
Attack ongoing in my current location .

May God bless all our Gallant soldiers moving to the front line with lots of Gun trucks




Gracias

Tobiloba2407:


Hope you have loaded your local toy gun?

demolition:

stay safe bro.

SamuelAnyawu:


Tho I heard it's around border town Amchide.

I nearly jumped into a Military hilux . Make we go harvest Boko heads, but all is calm now

komekn:


Would you liked me to give you a list of customers who have procured this now proven and tested as well as very EFFECTIVE UAV and then to add to that the cost effective is ASTOUNDING.

If you want to make a point make it on position based on reasoning that benefits the forum not on jibes without substance.

Finally, China is not Pakistan.

Xbee007:
Why does Nigerian Army focus a lot on quantity not quality? Why assign 500 poorly equipped soldiers to a job 50 well-equipped soldier could do? See how soldiers are packed together like sardine.
Oh my goodness! How can there be any reasonable level of coordination if this people come under enemy fire?

Odunayaw:
Compare the age of the jet to other light weight category fighters. Deduce from the age to popularity ratio and then you'd see you're arguing from a standpoint of Prejudice.

Again, China makes the Jets

Xbee007:
Why does Nigerian Army focus a lot on quantity not quality? Why assign 500 poorly equipped soldiers to a job 50 well-equipped soldier could do? See how soldiers are packed together like sardine.
Oh my goodness! How can there be any reasonable level of coordination if this people come under enemy fire?

Faithful007:
I don't get why you're defending the jf 17 like this. To a large extent, he is right. You can only compare both in performance. But in weapon systems, the f16 is miles ahead. Jf17 does not even have an aesa radar. But I like the Jf17 still because it is okay. Nigeria does not need to pursue a useless arms race for now. If we keep growing economically, if Egypt like, let them have 1000 f16s, a little sanction will settle any matter, nowadays, nobody can bomb another freely without adequate backup. If am to advise the military, I'll tell them to forget about air superiority and missiles and focus on more attack planes, light attack helicopters and the likes. For example sikorsky militarizes the blackhawk with rockets and precision guns for a cost, you can buy it complet or get an old one and they'll militarize it. A used blackhawk is about 4 million dollars. All these things are helpful to checkmate the spread of terrorism in the North East.

A Light fighter or lightweight fighter is afighter aircraft towards the low end of the practical range of weight, cost, and complexity over which fighters are fielded. The light or lightweight fighter retains carefully selected competitive features, in order to provide cost-effective design and performance.

A well-designed lightweight fighter is able to match or better a heavier type plane-for-plane in many missions, and for lower cost. The lightweight class can therefore be strategically valuable.

Tobiloba2407:
What do you all know about the Ataka 9m120 anti tank missile?

Toju200:
isn't it what the MI35M delivers??

Tobiloba2407:


Nigerian MI35M?

bidexiii:



The government is not blaming any NGO !

Stop giving me these flimsy craps about Christianity and casket !
These goes beyond what I can openly discuss here on the platform or go into unnecessary arguments with you!
Like I said French NGOs can never be trusted ?

Janjaweedi:


You forgot is a pakistan-Chinese joint work.

Xbee007:
Why does Nigerian Army focus a lot on quantity not quality? Why assign 500 poorly equipped soldiers to a job 50 well-equipped soldier could do? See how soldiers are packed together like sardine.
Oh my goodness! How can there be any reasonable level of coordination if this people come under enemy fire?

komekn:


Have you heard of the term sitting ducks.

Then people will say somebody is giving information to BOKO.

Just look at the way they are moving in a huge convoy no offensive and or defensive formation. They might as well mount a huge speaker announcing that they are on their way.