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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 12:21pm On Apr 03, 2021
EricBraven:

where are those shouting manpads

SSBN / Defense News Nigeria the clown of Nairaland and now of Twitter.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by youghs: 12:27pm On Apr 03, 2021
Toju200:
I don't know if the other pilot I still alive but my friend who's a NAF SOF said they're currently heading for CSAR.i didn't ask him much my prayers are with him.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by tutudesz: 1:03pm On Apr 03, 2021
youghs:


It's very unfortunate that most Nigerians are ungrateful undecided if only they know half of what our military men/women go through, just to keep us safe.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by seankafor(m): 1:14pm On Apr 03, 2021
youghs:


what's csar bro

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by GeneralFarouq: 1:21pm On Apr 03, 2021
SamuelAnyawu:


Nigeria needs to take this war seriously as a full scale war. We should stop hiding this Insurgency as if all is going on well here.

We need to go for total decimation of these bastards. We have lost too many men unnecessarily.

Since they took my friends in Dikwa I have not found rest or sleep.

It’s well shaaa let’s keep being Hopeful for better days ahead
Sorry for intrusion,
What are u still doing in maiduguri, how much could the NGO be paying you to justify ur staying there.....or are you doing some kind of business that warrants such risk...
Am pretty sure ur loved ones would have asked u to quit

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Toju200(m): 1:30pm On Apr 03, 2021
seankafor:
what's csar bro
combat search and rescue
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Xbee007(m): 1:48pm On Apr 03, 2021
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by GeneralFarouq: 1:52pm On Apr 03, 2021
Xbee007:
Anti-Spam bot got Josco again.
I guess is the reporting them do for the guy.... Make Dem just leave the guy be.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Xbee007(m): 1:57pm On Apr 03, 2021
GeneralFarouq:
I guess is the reporting them do for the guy.... Make Dem just leave the guy be.
You have no idea how the Anti-Spam bot works.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SamuelAnyawu(m): 2:19pm On Apr 03, 2021
GeneralFarouq:

Sorry for intrusion,
What are u still doing in maiduguri, how much could the NGO be paying you to justify ur staying there.....or are you doing some kind of business that warrants such risk...
Am pretty sure ur loved ones would have asked u to quit

Maiduguri ke? I Dey inside bush oh grin

Tho my Mum has always wanted me to quit, but I’ve given myself December to quit except I get a job in Maiduguri.

95% of NGO staff work in deep fields where there is risk

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by JackWolfskin: 2:20pm On Apr 03, 2021
EricBraven:

where are those shouting manpads

Na womanpad
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 2:59pm On Apr 03, 2021
JackWolfskin:

Na womanpad
F9 yarns
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by EricBraven: 3:08pm On Apr 03, 2021
kabe1:

SSBN / Defense News Nigeria the clown of Nairaland and now of Twitter.
that guy will just be saying rubbish

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by QuietMynd: 3:10pm On Apr 03, 2021
HoneyBadgerr:
Guys, please help me understand this...

How is it that a fighter jet was shot down and NAF could not tell its last position before it went off the radar? How is it that we were all in limbo and 'Insha Allah' until Boko Haram released videos and pictures?

I'm just struggling to understand these things because as a former Telco guy that used to monitor the network, within 30mins a site goes down, a technical team in that axis is dispatched to site to assess the situation and bring back om air.

So how does a fighter jet go off the radar and we all had to wait for Boko haram to announce the fate of the jet and officers. Just so ridiculous! 3 whole days and nothing definite!!! If it was the president and his family's plane that went off radar would the response be the same? Or even if it was some VIP flying over the region?
Thank God am nt the only person that have worked in the telecom industry b4.
Been thinking of that also.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by jpphilips(m): 3:27pm On Apr 03, 2021
Whyem15:
The bastards just got lucky. With the air traffic in the northeast theater in the last 2 days, they would have attempted to shoot another one down if they were sure of the capability. It might be MANPAD, it might be AA guns either way, it shouldn't be much of a threat for NAF. They need only enforce high altitude flying as from now on.
Also, aircrafts should be sent on missions with countermeasures. MANPADs are no threat to the MI-35s.

And also, this is what you get when you want to do everything cheaply, most of the times they use cannons, rockets and dumb bombs to attack BH/ISWAP's high value targets and gun trucks with average results when missiles would do the work far more effectively and with minimal risks

Cost is everything in war of Attrition.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by youghs: 5:19pm On Apr 03, 2021
seankafor:
what's csar bro
Combat Search and Rescue
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Sizzorkay: 5:43pm On Apr 03, 2021

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRpJj5L6At4


Not sure if this was posted on here before, but enjoy. No be my vid

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by jpphilips(m): 5:51pm On Apr 03, 2021
yoged:
The video was edited. How come the corpse in that video looks like a week dead body?.. There is one thing I don't understand., if truly boko haram brought it down. Does that mean The jet fighter dont have missile alerts or missile flares to give the missiles wrong course, that's to tell u how antique the jet fighters Nigeria has been acquiring, and they will spend the money to buy properties in Dubai, and other places killing young Nigerian pilots. Terrible

Its a new capability boko hasn't had over 10yrs since the beginning of this war, therefore its normal if the jet didn't prepare for that, again like I said before, its one of those intel failures we discussed before, we got credible intel foreign terrorists are meeting on our soil, we got a location but we didn't get their capabilities,
If we did, that mission would've been called off!!
Once its called off mid air then you hear nonsense like "We nearly killed the terror leaders but our commander was paid hence he called it off.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Kalapizim(m): 5:53pm On Apr 03, 2021
The next step after this is get NAF regiment and panthers to fine tune their CSAR capabilities over large areas like the north east.

Infact contested areas too, won't be a bad idea to get nearby countries like Benin and Niger involved too. This way we would have gotten a modus with several possible outcomes and concepts in the event of any of this kind of incidence again.

This would also see the need for dedicated platforms( ISR, Helos etc) for CSAR ready and good to go night or day.

This gap just manifested in this current incident.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 6:15pm On Apr 03, 2021
THE entire five South Eastern states of Abia, Anambra, Ebonyi, Enugu and Imo appear to be boiling and there is tension in most communities, no thanks to the renewed insecurity challenges in the zone.

Since the beginning of 2021, there had been bloodbath in most of the states and there appears to be no solution in sight.

The latest incident involving the former governor of the Central Bank of Nigeria, CBN, Professor Chukwuma Soludo in which gunmen swooped on the venue of a town hall meeting of the Professor of Economics and governorship aspirant of All Progressives Grand Alliance, APGA, for the November 6 election in Anambra State and killed three policemen and took their arms, was the climax of the frightening situation.

Following the attacks on the police at the checkpoint, policemen now go to work wearing mufti and only dress in their official uniforms when they get to their offices. Indeed, there is fear in the zone
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While most of the attacks had been traced to the activities of Fulani herdsmen who invade many south east villages with AK -47 rifles in their quest to occupy the forests, the rest were by criminals including armed robbers. There are also members of Indigenous People of Biafra controlled Eastern Security Network, ESN, who have been defending the various communities from the menace of the herdsmen.

In January, 2021, there was a bloody clash between the ESN, and a combined team of security operatives, in Orlu, Imo State, which led to the loss of a number of lives, while many buildings and vehicles were burnt down.

During the Orlu attack, people living around the Banana junction close to Orlu local government area headquarters had a raw deal and their houses and businesses were heavily torched. The shooting was heard as far as neighbouring communities of Okporo, Akata and Umutanze.

The soldiers who carried out the operation against ESN came from Obinze and the aftermath of the attack was heavy presence of the militaryat the various checkpoints erected on roads, with its attendant hardship on travellers. The military claimed it was revenging the death of their colleagues who were allegedly killed by members of the ESN set-up by the Mazi Nnamdi Kanu – led IPOB.

The Orlu incident made Governor Hope Uzodimma of Imo State to impose dust-to-dawn curfew in the entire Orlu Senatorial zone to halt the spread of the crisis.

Last week, gunmen killed eight people at Adani, Uzo -Uwani local government area of Enugu State and the following day, suspected herdsmen also killed 18 persons, includinga Methodist priest at Egedegede, Obegu and Amuzu communities in Ishielu local government area of Ebonyi State, The car belonging to the Methodist priest was also burnt by the herdsmen.

Chairman of Ishielu local government area, Mr. Sunday Eze, and Ebonyi State Commissioner for Business Development, Dr. Stephen Odo led a team of security agents to the communities and condoled the families of those killed in the invasion and assured that government would take proactive measures to investigate the attack.

Following the incident, the Ebonyi State Commissioner of Police delegated the Deputy Commissioner of Police, Operations, and others to go for on-the-spot assessment to enable security agencies get the root of the matter.

Reacting to the killings, Governor Dave Umahi, who was visibly angry, visited the affected communities, regretting that the attack took place despite an understanding the herdsmen had with the state government.

Umahi said: “We feel so sad that this kind of thing should happen in our state. I am going to report this to the highest authorities in the country to ensure these people don’t get away with this.”.

The governor also said that following the unabated killings and destruction of properties in Effium and Ezza-Effium communities in Ohaukwu local government area, the stakeholders arrested in connection with the crisis would remain in detention until peace returned to the area. He said: “The killings should stop; if they continue, I will hunt for the leaders and charge them for murder. Enough is enough. You have a lot to lose if the crisis continues. You can’t call for genocide against the people.

“When you see evil, you have to speak out. I commend those of you who have done that. I’m pleading with you, I am begging you. There’s a way you will continue to kill, the state will rise against you. I feel so sad. Let us stop these killings.

There was also an attack at Aba, Abia State during which a police station was razed. Some people suspected to members of ESN were arrested.

At Npkor near Onitsha, Anambra State, unknown gunmen drove to a police checkpoint and disarmed the security operatives. An eye witness said: “In my area, gunmen with white hummer bus, stopped at Nkpor Junction and disarmed five security men attached to TECNO plaza. There was no noise, no gunshot. The gunmen ordered the security men to just respect themselves and submit their guns. They did and they left smoothly”

From Npkor, the gunmen descended on police checkpoints at Omogho in Orumba South, killed three policemen and set ablaze the police patrol van.

Two days later, gunmen also attacked another checkpoint at Neni in Anaocha local government area and killed three policemen on the spot. Elsewhere at Awkuzu, gunmen also attacked a naval checkpoint and killed some of the ratings on duty. Later, there was another attack at Ekwulobia during which some gunmen attacked a bus conveying some prison inmates to court and killed two warders, a man and a woman. They also attempted to set ablaze the Ekwulobia police station recently reconstructed after it was burnt down during the #endsars protests of last year.

Those incidents made Governor Willie Obiano to read the riot act, warning that ‘enough is enough’. While the state government was still unfolding plans to contain the situation in parts of the state, there was the attack on the foremost APGA aspirant for the November election, Professor Soludo.

So far, four people have been arrested in connection with the attack and, according to the police, the first suspect was traced through his telephone which was left at the scene of the incident in Soludo’s community.

Reacting on the incident, Soludo said in an interview on Channels Television, that he did not want to link the attack to his political aspiration. Narrating the incident, the former CBN governor said: “We were having an interactive town hall meeting. We had finished the diocesan crism mass at about 2 pm and by 4 pm, we began the interactive session with Isuofia youths.

“Isuofia is my hometown. I am a village boy and this is where I feel safest anywhere in the world. I walk the streets and I mean everywhere as a village boy. With the interactive session, which had over 1000 youths seated, I was just making preliminary remarks to open up the interactive session with other dignitaries from the community, commissioners and members of the House of Assembly, former commissioners, former members of the House of Assembly and other dignitaries.

“And just as I was about to wrap up and for them to now open up comments, questions and answers, I heard gunshots. At first I thought, maybe the policemen were shooting in the air and concurring with the kind of exuberance in the hall itself.

“And until I began to hear people screaming and all of that and everybody scampering to safety, it was all over. It took several minutes, about 10 to 15 minutes of continuous battle, going back and forth, stopping and starting again.

“By the time we all came back, we saw three dead bodies lying in the pool of their blood – they were the three policemen – and like I said earlier, may God grant their soul eternal rest. We will continue to pray and support their families.

“And then, the Commissioner for Environment was abducted. I understand that when they ran and jumped the fence, some people grabbed and took him away.”

According to him, the security operatives, including the DSS, police, army and civil defense are already in his house, assuring that he is unhurt.

Soludo refused to link the attack with his political ambition adding, “I think there are all kinds of theories. I do not want to prejudge or preempt the investigation that is ongoing because I understand some persons have been apprehended and also providing useful information.”

In the meantime, reactions have continued to trail the attack on Soludo. The United Anambra Youth Assembly, U-AYA and United Anambra Women Assembly, U-AWA, described the attack as disgusting, anti-democratic and obviously a threat to the nation’s democratic consolidationin all its ramifications.

Founder and national president of the association, who is the member representing Anambra East and West Federal Constituency in the National Assembly , Hon Benjamin C Obidigwe frowned at the incident, adding that the attack was an abuse of the relative peace being enjoyed in the state.

Ex-presidential aide to former President Goodluck Jonathan and APGA governorship aspirant, Nze Akachukwu Nwankpo strongly condemned the attack. In a telephone conversation, Nwankpo commiserated with Soludo over the death of his police escorts. He encouraged the former CBN boss not to be deterred by the antics of the enemies of the state and thanked God that he was not hurt and for saving him from the dastardly act.

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2021/04/as-s-east-boils-police-disappear-from-roads-go-to-work-in-mufti/

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Lurker4Long: 6:25pm On Apr 03, 2021
I asked this before and all I got was posturing:

Why is it that your aircraft - jets and helicopters- don't always fly in pairs on sorties?

When Alpha 475 went down, the partner could have relayed precise coordinates to command, relayed intel on enemy disposition etc, to aid the search and rescue.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Sizzorkay: 6:33pm On Apr 03, 2021
Nigeria is a country on fire in numerous areas across the country, the platforms just aren't there to be pairing for jets and choppers for every mission or sortie.
My own opinion

Lurker4Long:
I asked this before and all I got was posturing:

Why is it that your aircraft - jets and helicopters- don't always fly in pairs on sorties?

When Alpha 475 went down, the partner could have relayed precise coordinates to command, relayed intel on enemy disposition etc, to aid the search and rescue.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by tutudesz: 6:37pm On Apr 03, 2021
Kalapizim:
The next step after this is get NAF regiment and panthers to fine tune their CSAR capabilities over large areas like the north east.

Infact contested areas too, won't be a bad idea to get nearby countries like Benin and Niger involved too. This way we would have gotten a modus with several possible outcomes and concepts in the event of any of this kind of incidence again.

This would also see the need for dedicated platforms( ISR, Helos etc) for CSAR ready and good to go night or day.

This gap just manifested in this current incident.
We need a bombers or gunship, that can engage enemy position continuously.
The military spending is a total joke, how many battle tanks was added to our inventory last year or since 5 years

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by ugo4u: 6:37pm On Apr 03, 2021
Lurker4Long:
I asked this before and all I got was posturing:

Why is it that your aircraft - jets and helicopters- don't always fly in pairs on sorties?

When Alpha 475 went down, the partner could have relayed precise coordinates to command, relayed intel on enemy disposition etc, to aid the search and rescue.
You don't just scramble Jets in pairs for the sake of it. Many factors have to be considered; type of mission, availability of aircrafts, enemy capabilities, weather, cost etc
Jets usually fly in pairs when there are multiple targets to attack simultaneously.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by JackWolfskin: 6:44pm On Apr 03, 2021
Lurker4Long:
I asked this before and all I got was posturing:

Why is it that your aircraft - jets and helicopters- don't always fly in pairs on sorties?

When Alpha 475 went down, the partner could have relayed precise coordinates to command, relayed intel on enemy disposition etc, to aid the search and rescue.

Resources, Resources, Corruption.

BTW, What's the "Nairaland" equivalent in SA?

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by tutudesz: 6:44pm On Apr 03, 2021
Lurker4Long:
I asked this before and all I got was posturing:

Why is it that your aircraft - jets and helicopters- don't always fly in pairs on sorties?

When Alpha 475 went down, the partner could have relayed precise coordinates to command, relayed intel on enemy disposition etc, to aid the search and rescue.
No Wingman for support undecided The operation guidelines of the Airforce need improvement

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Kalapizim(m): 7:02pm On Apr 03, 2021
tutudesz:

We need a bombers or gunship, that engage enemy position continuously.
The military spending is a total joke, how many battle tanks was added to our inventory last year or since 5 years
I don't you understand what I am saying.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Lurker4Long: 7:13pm On Apr 03, 2021
ugo4u:

You don't just scramble Jets in pairs for the sake of it. Many factors have to be considered; type of mission, availability of aircrafts, enemy capabilities, weather, cost etc
Jets usually fly in pairs when there are multiple targets to attack simultaneously.

Nobody does it for the sheer heck of it. It's doctrine and standard operating procedure.

If it's NAF doctrine to fly single, say so and we can have a debate about its efficacy.
If it's a question of resources, again say so, and that's another discussion.
If you don't know, no need to jump in defensively.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by lebuhsi(m): 7:23pm On Apr 03, 2021
This tight lip posture for the new leadership in DHQ is going to cost them a lot, especially in shaping narratives, just look at the outrageous claims I saw online by one journalist!



https://fij.ng/article/analysis-boko-haram-may-be-getting-undeserved-credit-for-nafs-alpha-jet-crash/

What the heck?! So if AVM Sadique RTD, was not as transparent as he was, this is how we would have gulped this?!

At no time have the leadership of the NAF took aircraft maintenance seriously as the NAF has done for the past 5 years, it's even possible the alpha jet that crashed just came Iut of PDM less than a year ago.

PDM on Alpha jets in Kainji, Nigeria less than a year ago!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArcXDuFeJJM

If they don't get their sh*t together, they are going to suffer for it.

Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by yoged(m): 7:34pm On Apr 03, 2021
youghs:


Combat Search and Rescue
I hope they are going with MRAP and not all these useless thin truck.

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