Ifankaleluya:



Maybe you should try to go 2ru my previous posts. You will understand why! You may send an e-mail 2 m nd i'l respond 2 ur request privately. Nd if u av done so,bt,yet 2 received my responds, you shld understand dt there are numerous messages on my e-mail nd urs may went over-sight.

More-over,all my posts here is a prayer 4 u. U may like to say amen 2 it, nd u shall received d blessings in it.

Zenlife:
@healthfirst
hopefully it is not this thread you have in mind and made inquiry to the mod in the general section of deleting, ''LILO EWE ATI EGBO FUN IWOSAN, ITUSILE ATI ASEYORI'' lest it will be insensitive, callous and selfish...considering its many benefits and services to the people. And why do so if it is. that is if the original true 'honest' intent is to help the people as stated in your intro lines and not just to sell your book. I thus implore you, even if you can, despite your displeasure at some recent developments on the thread with some users not to be a spoiler and delete this thread. HONOR AND VIRTUE, If however it is not the above stated thread intended, then do excuse me.

Ifankaleluya:



Maybe you should try to go 2ru my previous posts. You will understand why! You may send an e-mail 2 m nd i'l respond 2 ur request privately. Nd if u av done so,bt,yet 2 received my responds, you shld understand dt there are numerous messages on my e-mail nd urs may went over-sight.

More-over,all my posts here is a prayer 4 u. U may like to say amen 2 it, nd u shall received d blessings in it.

skamo74:

Baba pls according to Zenlife teach us any useful things on ewe ati Egbo. since you answered him you've been talking more on Ifa than teaches us ogun and you're more interested in Ifa challenge with Baba health first and most of your useful Ogun is not complete here with the excuse that you don't want people to sell it.

I know you want people to know more truth about IFA, i know you're an intelligent and learned man, so I suggest you start maybe ( IMO NIPA IFA ATI IWULO RE ) or any other name you may think of. You may even make your publication here.

this is my view

thanks

skamo74:

Baba pls according to Zenlife teach us any useful things on ewe ati Egbo. since you answered him you've been talking more on Ifa than teaches us ogun and you're more interested in Ifa challenge with Baba health first and most of your useful Ogun is not complete here with the excuse that you don't want people to sell it.

I know you want people to know more truth about IFA, i know you're an intelligent and learned man, so I suggest you start maybe ( IMO NIPA IFA ATI IWULO RE ) or any other name you may think of. You may even make your publication here.

this is my view

thanks


I do not come on this thread to make any publication,but only came to shed-light.

My intent was to let you people know the truth & correct some wrongs that has came up on this thread.

I'd resolved to teach you people so many good things that will be useful for your daily living,but,after I sat back & watch the activities on this thread,I had to review my intent.

Now,when he(healthfirst) noticed we have halted the sales of his book here by telling people the truth& the truth prevailed,he resolved to delete this thread&start a blog. I know this will happen,& that was my fears before,so,if i put anything here to teach you people,he'll compiles it & transfer it to his blog,even adds it to his book to lure people.

sammyjay76:

I think we don't know the truth any more here, pls for the sake of clarity let us have a rebuild of truth in this thread.
If something is not right let us address it and keep to the right and genuine. ''Owo ekun won ki fi raja erin ''
Eje he ka je ki awon Ogun ati ajo Lori thread yi je ojulowo.
Eseun.

ONILEIFA:
PLEASE MR Ifankaleluya DON'T LET THEM DELETE THIS TREAD I WILL LIKE YOU TO CREATE YOUR OWN TREAD IT FREE AND LEAVE THIS ONE FOR IT OWNER WHY YOU ARE BEHAVING LIKE DONALD TRUMP YOU TOO VOCAL ON IFA MATTER NOBODY KNOW IT ALL EVEN IF HE BUY BOOK AND COPY AND PASTE WE HAVE DO SOME WORKS HE GIVE OUT AND IT WORK PERFECT SO GO AND PULL YOUR OWN TREAD WE WILL COME THERE AND JOIN YOU THERE LEAVE THIS ALONE TO THE OWNER...........Ifankaleluya E DA RI JI MI KE TO RI BA BA JE EKO A UN DA RI JI EWE NI OO.

Ifankaleluya:
Fun awon ti won bere asiri-bibo lori e-mail.

E lo re wa isu~etiponola, ewe papasan,awom miran n pe ni dedenkude, eyin adire ororo meta,ati ori.

E o lo awon ewe yen papo ni,eo jo eyin yen sibi kan,eo da ewe yen si ti e ba ti lo tan,eo po papo daada.

Eo ju ori yen sinu agbada,ti o ba ti yo,ori yen ni eo fi din eyin yen.

Idi-ikoko yen o gbodo kanle mo oo. Ti o ba ti di ni oru,eo bo ara sile ni ihoho,eo se adura si,eo si ko je.

E o ti wa iyere-osun sile,

iyere-osun yen ni e o fi te eji-ogbe

eo wa pe ifa re si. Mo ti fi ifa yen sile lori fanran yi,e lo re wa nibi ti mo ti ki ifa pe''Oro kan n se mi bi kin ma jo,bi kin ma jo''.

Ti e ba ti pe ifa yen tan,eo fi owo(money) gba iyere osun yen jo,eo da senu. E le mu schnapps tabi seaman kekere si tori ko dara ki eniyan ma mu omi le aseje lori.

Adura yin yio gba ooo.

Ela-boru, Ela-boye, Ela-bosise.

Ayomidegbenga1:


Ejowo Baba Tailor ni mi mo need ogun ti maa fi ni omo ekose(Apprentice)pupo. Eseun baba

Ifankaleluya:


@zenlife

With a gaiety,I salute your courage. I think you challenged him(healthfirst) on this thread,but,why he opted to responded on general section?

I'l like him to come out here & named those he reffered as ''semi-iliterate, do-no-good,& ill-will chartalans'' that he stated to quoted your post.

Before,I see him as a chamelon that do change as its surrounding changes,but,now I can finally resolved that he is jst a gadfly.

Let him go ahead to execute his intent. I'l not fold my hands & watch him abusing ifa-verses,& hide under the false pretence that he is ifa-priest to dupe users of this thread.

dominicson:










Ifa, in Iwori meji says:

A pa ewure tan, a yan egungun re lodi

Beeni ninu eran ni egungun n gbe

Won pa esin(horse), won fi esin je, a si yan egungun re lodi...

Ehin/eyin erin l'ola, awo ara re ko n'iyi

Iwo efon ni ola, eran ara re kii n'iyi

A difa fun kiniun, a bu fun ekun, ti oku won yi o d'oku oba

Ekun ru eku ago, kiniun ru eku afe

Nje a kii fi ago b'ori, a kii f'afe b'orisa

Ko si eniti n wipe eran ekun ni ifa oun gba: eewo orisa, a kii fi kiniun b'orisa


Ela boru, Ela boye, Ela bosise!


I think it's time we resolved this issue behind the scene. Or have we anything to gain disparaging ourselves in the eyes of toddlers/neophytes in mysticism? Ete awo, our elders would say, erin ogberi. But ogbo(do-do)/ogberi too should note, before they sneer, as Ifa rightly pointed out in Iworidi, "Iwori wodu, a difa fun ofidan ti ko gba, ti ko te, ti n lo f'oju wo odu, ti oju re yoo fo..."

If we are not very careful, we may end up destroying people whose lives we intend to build by writing/saying things they are not supposed to hear.

So, Ifakunle and HealthFirst, I won't ask you to eat 'Ebure', lest you tell me that ebure is 'eran ohun' but mo fi Orunmila, Olofin ati Onile-Ogboduora be yin, let's talk this out as initiates.

Ifankaleluya:
OBARA-OGUNDA NI A N PE NI OBARA-EGUN TAN.

IFA NI;

Obara-egun tan

oni(today) la o pa egun run

adifa fun orunmila nijo ti omo-araye ni awon o fi eegun,epe ba aye baba je

ifa ni iro ni won n pa

egun kii mu ila

egun kii mu ikan

ati egun ati epe kii mu ata

obara-egun tan

ifa ba mi pa gbogbo egun aye mi.

IFA YI NI A MA N FI, ata,ikan,ila ati etu-ibon se. Ti a ba pari re, enu ona ni ao ti te ifa re,ti a ba pe ifa tan. Ao wa fi etu ibon yen si ni aarin,ao wa sa ina si. Ti ina yen ba gbi, ise yen ti dahun niyen.

Ela-boru, ela-boye, elo-bosise.

Ifankaleluya:
Ifa ni: Aridigi ni ti eegun,ako-tagiri ni ti ejo, ojo ti owu alahun-takun ba ja, agbaagba meta won kii roju so, adifa fun orunmila nijo ti baba n lo soju-ogun to le,won ni ki orunmila o ma lo,orunmila ni nitori kin ni,won ni awon to n yin ni nibon,awon to n sa ni lada,awon to na eni loogun ati awon to n se ni ni ajogun gbogbo wa nibe, orunmila ni ohun o lo,orunmila ni ti won ti fi oju kan ohun gbogbo ohun buruku ti n be ninu won yio si ma ra si won ninu, iwo won ka sai sun si won lapo iwo won.

NOTE
ifa ti o wa loke yi ni kiije ki ogun ti won ba fi na eeyan ati ibon,ati ohun buruku ti won ba fe se si wa ko sise. Aso eegun,owu-alahuntakun,ori-ejo,ewe aruso oko ati be-be-be loooo. Aso-eegun yen ni ao fi di ni ikobere.

Ela-boru, ela-boye, ela-bosise.

Ifankaleluya:

Se e le ri aloku eni fafa? Ti e ba ti ri ki e kan si mi.

Ifankaleluya:
FUN ENITI KO BA SE ASEYORI LORI GBOGBO IDAWOLE RE TABI TI AWON AGBALAGBA KO JE KO RI ONA ABAYO.

IFA NI AWA NI TI A LE FUN YIN,KO KIN NSE OGUN LASAN.

IFA YI JE AKO ATI ABO.

AKOKO NI IWE(BATH) ASEYORI TI GBOGBO OGUN ATI OHUN TI O BA DAWOLE YIO FI MA SESE
EKEJI NI IMULE AJE TI WON FI MA N YOJU SI ENIYAN LOJU ORUN TI WON YIO SI FI ASIRI OGUN AYE RE HAN E.
IFA ELEKEJI YI, TI O BA SE BI WON TI MA N SE,OKUNRIN YIO LO FUN OJO MESAN,OBINRIN YIO LO FUN OJO MEJE. LEYIN TI O BA LO IFA YI TAN,TI ENIYAN BA LO YA X-RAY NI HOSPITAL,WON A RI IGBA NI AYA WA,IGBA(CALABASH) YEN NI AMI TI AWON AJE YIO FI SI WA LARA TO TUMO SI WIPE AWON AJE KO GBODO FI OWO KAN WA MO.

SUGBON NKO NI NI ANFANI LATI FI IFA KEJI YEN SILE LORI IKANNI YI,NITORI AWON KAN TO JE WIPE IWE OGUN NI WON N TA. AWA SI MO ASIRI WON.TORI AWON IWE KAN NI WON N DAKO FUN YIN,WON KIISE BABALAWO. IRO LASAN NI WON N PA FUN YIN.

1.
IWE ASEYORI.

EWE-IYALODE TI KO JA TI KO LU 201, AKO-OKUTA MESAN, ATI EPO-OBO NI AO FI SE AGBO YEN. OMUNU EWE-IYALODE MESAN ATI EPO-OBO DIE NI AO GUN PAPO,TI AO PO MO OSE DUDU DIE TI AO FI SE OSE RE.AO KO AKO-OKUTA YEN TELE IKOKO,AO FI EPO-OBO YEN LE LORI,AO WA KO GBOGBO EWE YEN LE LORI. AO BU OMI TO PO DADA SI,AO GBEKA INA NI DEDE AGOGO-MEFA IROLE. TI AGBO YEN BA TI JINNA,A KO GBODO FI IDI RE KAN ILE OO. A LE WA AKO-OKUTA TI O TOBI DADA KI A GBELE LORI. AO WA KO GBOGBO EWE YEN KURO,AO LO DA SI ORI-AKIITAN. SUGBON,A KO NI KO AKO-OKUTA YEN KURO.
FUN ENITI KO BA NI AGBARA LATI PA ODIDI ERAN,AO TI RA(BUY) ORI ORUKO ATI ESE RE MERERIN SILE,AO KO SINU AWO ABOKADELE DUDU,AO BU EPO PUPA SI LORI. TI O BA DI NI AGOGO-MOKANLA ALE,AO SE ADURA SI,AO LO GBE SI ORITA-META,A KO GBODO WEYIN TI A BA TI GBE KA LE OO.
AO NI SUUURU KI O FI DI AGO-KAN ORU,TI AGO-KAN ORU BA TI LU NI AO FI AGBO YEN WE PELU KENKEHIN TITUN. TI A BA TI WE TAN,AO RI KENKENHIN YEN MOLE,AO KO AKO-OKUTA YEN LO DA SI ORITA-META LORU YEN,A KO SI GBODO WO EYIN TI AO FI WOLE PADA.

GBERE IFA YEN; ESO-LOWEREJENJE MESAN ATI OMO-IRULA MESAN NI AO LO PAPO TI AO FI SIN GBERE MERIN NI AYA APA-OTUN,META NI EYIN APA-OTUN ATI GBERE META NI AYA APA-OSI,MERIN NI EYIN APA OSI. LO BA TAN.

IKILO RE OOO
OBINRIN KO GBODO WE IWE YEN OOO. TI OBINRIN BA WE,AWON IYAMI MA FUN NI EIYE NI OOO.

2
IMULE AWON AJE TO DAJU
ABO ADIE TO DUDU TIKO NI AMI KANKAN, IKODE KAN,OBI-IFIN,OBI-IPA,TEWE-TEGBO AJEOBALE,IGBA OLOMORI ATI ........., AO LO WA EGBO AJEOBALE YEN NI ARO KUTU-KUTU,AO WA FI EGBO YEN WON IKA-ARIN WA,AO GE SI META,AO YA AWE-KAN NIBI OBI-IPA,AO GE SI MARUN,AO YA AWE KAN NIBI OBI-IFIN AO GE SI MERIN. AO KO EGBO TI A GE SI META YEN TELE IGBA,AO DA AWON OBI TI A GE YEN SI,AO FI IKODE YEN ATI EWE........,AO WA KO GBOGBO IFUN ADIE YEN TI A YO LATI IDI,TORI A KO GBODO PA ADIE YEN LORI,LATI IDI(OBO) NI AO TI GE,TI AO SI TIKO GBOGBO IFUN RE JADE. TI A BA TI KO TAN. AO KO SINU IGBA(CALABASH) YEN,AO WA KO EWE AJE-OBALE TO PO DADA SI LORI. AO WA DE IGBE YEN PA. AO GBE SINU IKOKO,AO GBE KA INA. AO DE KOKO YEN,A KO GBO RO PAPO TI YIO FI JO TAN. TI O BAJO TAN TI ATI LO,AO WA TE NI ODU-IFA OSA-MEJI. AO WA PE IFA RE SI. SUGBON N KO NI FI IFA YI SILE TAN TORI AWON TI WON N TA IWE-OGUN.

NOTE;;
TI O BA NILO GBOGBO IFA YI TAN,FI NUMBER RE SILE LABE KIN NI YI. PELU OGO OLORUN,MA SI FI SILE FUN OOO.

ABORU,ABOYE,ABO-SISE.

dominicson:










Ifa, in Iwori meji says:

A pa ewure tan, a yan egungun re lodi

Beeni ninu eran ni egungun n gbe

Won pa esin(horse), won fi esin je, a si yan egungun re lodi...

Ehin/eyin erin l'ola, awo ara re ko n'iyi

Iwo efon ni ola, eran ara re kii n'iyi

A difa fun kiniun, a bu fun ekun, ti oku won yi o d'oku oba

Ekun ru eku ago, kiniun ru eku afe

Nje a kii fi ago b'ori, a kii f'afe b'orisa

Ko si eniti n wipe eran ekun ni ifa oun gba: eewo orisa, a kii fi kiniun b'orisa


Ela boru, Ela boye, Ela bosise!


I think it's time we resolved this issue behind the scene. Or have we anything to gain disparaging ourselves in the eyes of toddlers/neophytes in mysticism? Ete awo, our elders would say, erin ogberi. But ogbo(do-do)/ogberi too should note, before they sneer, as Ifa rightly pointed out in Iworidi, "Iwori wodu, a difa fun ofidan ti ko gba, ti ko te, ti n lo f'oju wo odu, ti oju re yoo fo..."

If we are not very careful, we may end up destroying people whose lives we intend to build by writing/saying things they are not supposed to hear.

So, Ifakunle and HealthFirst, I won't ask you to eat 'Ebure', lest you tell me that ebure is 'eran ohun' but mo fi Orunmila, Olofin ati Onile-Ogboduora be yin, let's talk this out as initiates.

Zenlife:
@Ifankaleluya
Baba ejowo e funwa ni oogun ki iyawo mon se bi oko ba ti fe ni gbogbo igba. E seun. Edumare a to ju yin fun wa o. Ewe a je o.

Ifankaleluya:


@Zenlife

Pls drop your e-mail. i'l forward it to you.

Ifankaleluya:


@Zenlife

Pls drop your e-mail. i'l forward it to you.