No2Atheism:

This topic is inherently flawed . . .

- How do you know the "Jews" were black.
- What if there is biblical and historical evidence that the jews were not "white"

THE-AMAKA:

but to narrow this all down we all came from the same people.
it just matters where and when you settled and what language your people developed.

other arethan that we all from the same pusssy that settled in what is now present day Ethiopia(the first man, according to scientist, to walk the earth)
so what gives? what is the obsession with igbos and jews anyway?

safarigirl:

ACTUALLY, THE IBOS ARE A MIXTURE OF ISRAELI, EGYPTIAN AND IGALA BLOOD, AN ISRAELI MAN, I THINK HE WAS THE GRANDSON OF JACOB OR SO LEFT HIS COUNTRY, HIS NAME WAS ERI, HE FIRST GOT TO EGYPT WHERE HE MARRIED AN EGYPTIAN WOMAN, HE WAS SAID TO HAVE LEFT ISRAEL WITH AN ONYX STONE WHICH HAD BEEN PASSED DOWN FROM HIS DESCENDANTS, HE HAD A DAUGHTER WHO HE NAMED ADA, SHE WASN'T ALLOWED TO GET MARRIED COS HE DIDN'T WANT HER MARRIED, HE HAD OTHER CHILDREN WITH THIS EGYPTIAN WOMAN AND ONE OF THEM LATER LEFT EGYPT WITH THE ONYX STONE, THAT WAS HOW THEY GOT TO IGALA, WHERE HE MARRIED AN IGALA WOMAN, THE ISRAELIS ARE HEBREW, BUT THE IGALA PEOPLE PRONOUNCED IT AS "HIBU", AND IT WAS LATER CHANGED TO "IBO". THE ONYX STONE WAS BURIED SOMEWHERE IN THE EAST, TO BE PRECISE, WHAT IS NOW ONITSHA, IT GOT THIS NAME BECAUSE THE ONYX STONE WAS FOUND THERE BY SOME ARCHAEOLOGISTS SOMETIME IN THE 16TH CENTURY. THE IBOS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE FAIR IN COMPLEXION, LIKE WHITES, WITH LONG HAIR, STRAIGHT NOSE AN BASIC WHITE FEATURES, BUT THE IGALA WOMAN'S GENES CORRUPTED THE WHITE GENES, HENCE THE FLAT NOSE AND DARK SKIN.

YOUR TEACHER WAS PARTLY RIGHT, HIS ONLY MISTAKE WAS THE SUDANESE INSTEAD OF EGYPTIAN.

AND I GOT THIS STORY FROM A BOOK WRITTEN BY A NIGERIAN, PASTOR UJAH. IF YOU NEED PROOF, A BOARD WHICH HAD HEBREW WORDS WRITTEN ON IT WAS FOUND SOMEWHERE IN ABIA STATE IN THE EARLY 20TH CENTURY, CAN'T REMEMBER THE VILLAGE THOUGH, BUT THE BOARD IS IN THEIR IGWE'S PALACE.
DON'T BE QUICK TO CALL YOUR TEACHER OUT, RESEARCH FIRST.

toshmann: u coulda done better by getting a more appropriate and less deceptive title for ur thread.

igbos are egalitarian. they came from many places. . . mainly from east africa. they came to a geographical location . . in present day eastern nigeria. . . and formed a culture and a language. we came from different places. that is why, amongst the igbos u find various sub-races . . . .the bantu (most common) and the sudan-like groups. . . tall dark, also we have light skinned (like fulanis) etc . . . . .

also in our history we have independent villages each with their leader(not a king) and the eze-in-council (the ndi-ichies and the ozos (kind of like parliament) etc this looks like the present day US where people came from different places to form a culture and have a way of life with no king but a king-like president and legislature


note: [size=18pt]nobody truely knows the details of igbo ancestry[/size]

throttler: igalas?the people that eat rats ( let the biting begin)

but seriously, what if igbo is older than igala, then igala may have been frozen in embryo and is still the elder bros, NOT!

igbo is igbo, kpomkwem.

what nonsense does it mean that we mixed with sudan, do we have sugar cane legs, and look like miniature giraffes?

why is it hard for folks to agree that igbo is an original people, maybe they are trying to get credit for the fabulousity that is igbo.

waleab:
taureg no be volkswagen?

Ifygurl:
This is a freaking statement a supposed "African history teacher" said to the students. I take an African history class in my school. There are more white people in my school than black. So in my class there are alot of white kids, few AA's and alot of African student. We're talking about the origin of African tribes like a week ago and my "supposed educated" teacher claimed the Igbo tribe of Nigeria were from some Sudanese tribe and Igala of Nigeria. According to him, we left these people and created our tribe and then somehow, someway he mixed up with Isreal people. How the Bleep did we mix up with Isrealian? How many of us, have actually stepped foot in that country. When i asked him where is his prove seeing that his incorrect. He gave me book written by Europeans and a freaking article written by some Isreal man. Not one of his prove is from a Nigerian, an Igbo or even an African. Seriously why do white folks give out the wrong information and try to act like their statement is the truth. Today's, he was teaching was about African features (i thought it was stupid seeing that many people in Africa have different, not one single tribe in Africa have one feature). He used old pictures of slaves that claimed they from some specific tribe. When he came to Ethiopia, he used a picture of some Ethiopian tribe to explain how they supposedly mixed up with Indians. My friend from Ethiopia told him that they mixed up with Arabs, not Indians and one girl infront us from that Ethiopia got up and screamed at my friend and the teacher. She said "we didn't mix up with indians, neither did we mix up with Arabs you slowpoke. We East Africans, we have east africans features or better yet Horn of Africans features" and then she just walked off. I was weak as hell. To me East Africans do not look mixed except (Ethiopians, Eritrea, Djibouti and Somalian). The rest look like black people. Hell even the Horn of African's i've met, look ordinary to me, nothing about them stands out. Anyway, when he came to Nigeria, he used picture of some freaking slave lady (Who looks nothing like igbo people) and Olaudah Equiano (Who i still doubt is Igbo, his freaking name doesn't even look Igbo). Anyway, he used celebrities to prove that recent Igbo people do not look like our ancestors. What the hell, Are we suppose to look like our ancestors from 400 years ago? Are we suppose to have the same features. He used oluchi, Chinua achebe and phillip Eweagwali to claim how some igbos still resemble our ancestors but not completely. Then he used genevive Nnaji (a freaking movie star), Ndidi, Ikenna (a freaking model) and some extremely lightskin i don't know to claim how some don't resemble our ancestors anymore. He even used begin lightskin in his freaking stupid claim and he had the audacity to argue with me (ME an Igbo girl from Nigeria, raised and born in Nigeria). When i told him, mixing up with other tribes in Nigeria can be a factor for us "supposedly" not looking like our ancestors. He claimed that if i read the book he recommended to me, then i would have known mixing up with tribes can change features but not completely. So according to him and the freaking book he recommended "If i bring my father next to a 100% igbo man, my father is suppose to look alot like him, even though he has another tribe in him. If i bring Desmond Elliot, Omotola Jalade,Yomi or my close friend, they are suppose to look like 100% Igbos or 100% yoruba or 100% hausa, even though they have other tribes in their blood. So a black and white mix changes features but tribe and tribe mix doesn't? What the hell is that.
When i told him, his statement are false, this stupid white girl told me "It's not all that serious" and a freaking Ugandian boy (that i bet you have never steeped foot in Nigeria) claimed the teacher is right. Abi ooh, his not even Nigerian. I was the only Nigerian girl there and i wished there were more Nigerian students there so we can prove his incorrect.
I actually thought the Ghanaian in my class can stand with me but the girl said "didn't Igbos claim they are descendant of Jews, maybe I should listen".
It pissed me off. I thought the guy is cool as hell, i mean he still is. The guy watch African movies from every region in Africa and some days we watch African movies in his class, so i thought he was cool. I didn't know he was biased.
I'm actually starting to doubt the claim that Hausa and Fulani are from Sudan. Abi, seeing the statement they gave about us.
I actually went the the 2nd african history teacher in our school (We only have 4 African history teacher and all of them are white). Anyway i went to her and asked her where are Igbos from? Again she gave a biased answer, she claimed that Igbos are mixture of tribes (hence the reason our ancestry can't be traced). She also said some have Jewish ancestry.
I hate when people give the wrong information about people, i seriously hate that.

PAGAN9JA:
[size=32pt]NONSENSE BULLSH!T! IGBOS WERE 100% PAGAN TRADITIONALIST AMADIOHA WORSHIPPERS UNTIL 100 YEARS BACK! NO JEWISH BLOOD IN THEM![/size]

theDEVILisHERE:


Igbos were not and still are not originally pagan

Igbos originally belivied and still do believe in the creator who they called "chi"
(Chi= energy/ life energy/ life force/ creator force/ creator)
That's why you see them answering it in their names: CHInkwe, amaraCHI, keleCHI, CHIbuzor, ucheCHI, osinaCHI etc

They belived in an almighty creator which they refered to as
"Chukwu" (chi= creator, ukwu= big/huge/mighty/almighty)
Ie: almighty creator
Or
"Chukwu Okike Abiama"
(Chukwu= almighty creator, okike= powerful, abiama or biamara= come closer and know)
Ie: come closer and know the powerful almighty creator

Paganism and idol worship are not original to igbo culture and tradition
Their close proximity to paganist and idol worshippers at a time influenced them in this regard
Igbos originally do not belive in worshiping or bowing down to man or anything made by man

Original igbo methodology do not believe in any man lording over their fellow men
They don't believe in a king/ ruler
To them only the creator is the king
That is why you have the original igbo philosophy "chi bu eze" (chibueze) which means " the creator is king"

Any concept of kingship/rulership by man
Or deityfication and idol worship of any entity
Are not original but foriegn influenced

The original concepts of things like amdioha, kamanu, ekwansu etc
Have been distorted due to foriegn influence from paganism, idol worship and christianity

As for the so called jewish angle
Can't say much on that

PAGAN9JA:



Shut up! As if u wer alive bak then

safarigirl:
ACTUALLY, THE IBOS ARE A MIXTURE OF ISRAELI, EGYPTIAN AND IGALA BLOOD, AN ISRAELI MAN, I THINK HE WAS THE GRANDSON OF JACOB OR SO LEFT HIS COUNTRY, HIS NAME WAS ERI, HE FIRST GOT TO EGYPT WHERE HE MARRIED AN EGYPTIAN WOMAN, HE WAS SAID TO HAVE LEFT ISRAEL WITH AN ONYX STONE WHICH HAD BEEN PASSED DOWN FROM HIS DESCENDANTS, HE HAD A DAUGHTER WHO HE NAMED ADA, SHE WASN'T ALLOWED TO GET MARRIED COS HE DIDN'T WANT HER MARRIED, HE HAD OTHER CHILDREN WITH THIS EGYPTIAN WOMAN AND ONE OF THEM LATER LEFT EGYPT WITH THE ONYX STONE, THAT WAS HOW THEY GOT TO IGALA, WHERE HE MARRIED AN IGALA WOMAN, THE ISRAELIS ARE HEBREW, BUT THE IGALA PEOPLE PRONOUNCED IT AS "HIBU", AND IT WAS LATER CHANGED TO "IBO". THE ONYX STONE WAS BURIED SOMEWHERE IN THE EAST, TO BE PRECISE, WHAT IS NOW ONITSHA, IT GOT THIS NAME BECAUSE THE ONYX STONE WAS FOUND THERE BY SOME ARCHAEOLOGISTS SOMETIME IN THE 16TH CENTURY. THE IBOS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE FAIR IN COMPLEXION, LIKE WHITES, WITH LONG HAIR, STRAIGHT NOSE AN BASIC WHITE FEATURES, BUT THE IGALA WOMAN'S GENES CORRUPTED THE WHITE GENES, HENCE THE FLAT NOSE AND DARK SKIN.

YOUR TEACHER WAS PARTLY RIGHT, HIS ONLY MISTAKE WAS THE SUDANESE INSTEAD OF EGYPTIAN.

AND I GOT THIS STORY FROM A BOOK WRITTEN BY A NIGERIAN, PASTOR UJAH. IF YOU NEED PROOF, A BOARD WHICH HAD HEBREW WORDS WRITTEN ON IT WAS FOUND SOMEWHERE IN ABIA STATE IN THE EARLY 20TH CENTURY, CAN'T REMEMBER THE VILLAGE THOUGH, BUT THE BOARD IS IN THEIR IGWE'S PALACE.
DON'T BE QUICK TO CALL YOUR TEACHER OUT, RESEARCH FIRST.

Ibime:
Igbos are Bantu's mixed with Oru people of Sudan/Egypt, mixed with Igala.