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Re: Berbatov Versus Ibrahimovic by tayoccu(m): 6:18pm On Feb 12, 2009
So Fletcher is better than Fabregas in your opinon??

now why did you have to show the world how daft you are?

fletcher (fringe player)

Fabregas (key player)

after taking into consideration the number of titles a player has won, we look @ the role played by the player in question.
I purposely asked that question so the retards on the thread can expose themselves.

count how many titles Ibra's won, do the same for Berbasulk, Now evaluate the Role(s) they played during the course of the competition.

Then ask yourself who's better?




besides a couple of brilliant minds in europe (where both players originate from,and ply their trade) made a video (which I know you'd have seen except you've been hiding under a rock) asking who's better, C. ronaldo or Ibra?
those people recognized Ibra's talent, and put him in the class he deserves to be.
Re: Berbatov Versus Ibrahimovic by dayokanu(m): 6:24pm On Feb 12, 2009
Berbatov has been more influential because he played in Tottenham(not even the best 4 in England) and made the PFA team of the season in his debut season. Tottenham WILL NOT win the Premiership if u put Ibrahimovic in Berbatov's place while Dimitar was there.
Inter would still have won the Serie A if u replace Ibrahimovic with Berbatov. . . . .See the difference??
Only a doofus will compare teams like Juve, Ajax, Inter to TOTTENHAM!!!

Zlatan was the most important player in Inter for the last 2 seasons. He was able to carry the weight of a big team easier to do for a smaller team.  

Berbatov would never have done what Zlatan did for Inter. Strolling around the park ?  Only in Tottenham where they see him as God.

Lets see how many goals he would score in Man Utd where he gets world class assists
Re: Berbatov Versus Ibrahimovic by Sauron1: 6:30pm On Feb 12, 2009
tayoccu:

now why did you have to show the world how daft you are?
fletcher (fringe player)
Fabregas (key player)

Stop gawking like a camel undergoing manual castration.
Is Rooney better than Messi?? Messi is yet to win a La Liga title in which he has been a key player.
Messi is yet to play in the Champions League semi/final(never mind winnig it).
If that does not blow your vacuous reasoning out of the water, nothing else would.


after taking into consideration the number of titles a player has won, we look @ the role played by the player in question.
I purposely asked that question so the retards on the thread can expose themselves.

U are the doofus here. . . . . .Berba has scored more goals than Ibrahimovic both for club and country.
He was highly influential for Tottenham(the 5th best team in the league). . .Berba is yet to score less than 23 goals per season in the last 4 years.


count how many titles Ibra's won, do the same for Berbasulk, Now evaluate the Role(s) they played during the course of the competition.
Then ask yourself who's better?

If u think harping on about titles then u believe Tevez and Rooney are all better than Messi.



besides a couple of brilliant minds in europe (where both players originate from,and ply their trade) made a video (which I know you'd  have seen except you've been hiding  under a rock) asking who's better, C. ronaldo or Ibra?
those people recognized Ibra's talent, and put him in the class he deserves to be.

Only idiots like you would compare Ronaldo to Ibra. . . .(one is a striker the other is a winger).
Aiiight, aiiight. . . . .Letz even try and compare their output for their respective teams. . . . .
Ronaldo scored 42 goals(outscoring all the strikers in Europe including Ibrahimovic). . . .If that does not place Ronaldo higher than Ibra in your eyes then u  should be branded a sap head.
Re: Berbatov Versus Ibrahimovic by Sauron1: 6:44pm On Feb 12, 2009
dayokanu:

Zlatan was the most important player in Inter for the last 2 seasons. He was able to carry the weight of a big team easier to do for a smaller team.

So Tottenham + Zlatan will win the English Premiership?? grin grin grin grin
U are the most retarded sports member on Nairaland.  


Berbatov would never have done what Zlatan did for Inter. Strolling around the park ?  Only in Tottenham where they see him as God.

His strolling got him the PFA team of the season. . . . .His strolling got him 46 goals in his first 2 seasons at SPURS.
The same strolling got him 41 goals in 66 international games.
U don't want this guy to stop strolling, do u?? Cos then he will be the deadliest striker in Europe.


Lets see how many goals he would score in Man Utd where he gets world class assists

This is where u get it wrong. . . . .
Obviously, u haven't been paying attention to the Premiership.
He is the one providing the assists. 9 assists(ALL FROM OPEN PLAY) already this season(the highest for any striker in the league).
Re: Berbatov Versus Ibrahimovic by dayokanu(m): 7:08pm On Feb 12, 2009
Strikers are meant to score goals. Henry, Ronaldo Lima, RVN and all strikers are known for the goals they score not the assist they provide.

A student fails but u now console yourslef that he has a good hand writing.
Berbasulk should score, That was what he was bought for. Leave the assist to Rooney and Tevez. His negative work rate is affecting the whole team as they are scoring fewer goals with Berba lazy in the team.

He is having a negative effect on everybody around him, The speed is less, the creativity has gone down, the counters are not as effective. Berba sucks!!
Re: Berbatov Versus Ibrahimovic by Sauron1: 7:15pm On Feb 12, 2009
dayokanu:

Strikers are meant to score goals. Henry, Ronaldo Lima, RVN and all strikers are known for the goals they score not the assist they provide.

He doesn't even play ahead of Rooney or Tevez for Man Utd. . . .It shows you haven't been paying attention.


A student fails but u now console yourslef that he has a good hand writing.
Berbasulk should score, That was what he was bought for. Leave the assist to Rooney and Tevez. His negative work rate is affecting the whole team as they are scoring fewer goals with Berba lazy in the team.

How has Berbatov failed?? The season is not yet over so shut your traps and quit analysing rubbish.
Berbatov wasn't bought to score goals. . . . .He was bought to improve the squad and add composure to United's play in the final third.
Assist to Rooney and Tevez?? How are these two different to Berbatov?? Is Berbatov an out n out striker??
U should be ashamed of your watery and colourless analysis.


He is having a negative effect on everybody around him, The speed is less, the creativity has gone down, the counters are not as effective. Berba sucks!!

Negative effect and United are leading the PREM with a game in hand??
We have copped more points this season than we did at this stage last season.
This time last season, United have lost 4 games. . . .this time we have lost 2 and you keep reproducing bollocks from your diseased gullet.

Berba sucks?? United fans love him that way. Go hang urself. grin
Re: Berbatov Versus Ibrahimovic by Nobody: 7:22pm On Feb 12, 2009
*****peeping and enjoying the 'match'******* lipsrsealed
Re: Berbatov Versus Ibrahimovic by dayokanu(m): 7:31pm On Feb 12, 2009
He doesn't even play ahead of Rooney or Tevez for Man Utd. . . .It shows you haven't been paying attention.

When a top striker starts learning how to keep the goal then something is wrong. Was he playing behind Robbie Keane,Jermaine Defoe(Tottenham) Stilian Petrov, Martin Petrov, Yankov,(Bulgaria) Franca, Krzynowek(Leverkusen) .

How has Berbatov failed?? The season is not yet over so shut your traps and quit analysing rubbish.
Berbatov wasn't bought to score goals. . . . .He was bought to improve the squad and add composure to United's play in the final third.
Assist to Rooney and Tevez?? How are these two different to Berbatov?? Is Berbatov an out n out striker??
U should be ashamed of your watery and colourless analysis

Berbatov is a top striker!! That is what he has always been for all the clubs he played for and country. Its his laziness and disability that turned him into
The composure in the final third? Then he has failed cos Man Utd has scored far less goals since he brought his useless composure.

Rooney and Tevez hussle around running all over and Berba is supposed to be the cool finisher. But he is too lazy to do anything like that.

Negative effect and United are leading the PREM with a game in hand??
We have copped more points this season than we did at this stage last season.
This time last season, United have lost 4 games. . . .this time we have lost 2 and you keep reproducing bollocks from your diseased gullet.

United leads the table because of the discipline of the defence Not by any attacking brilliance.

Loads of 1-0 victory shows that the defence is doing the job and not the attack. Not conceding in like 13 games is the work of defenders and to an extent midfielders even an infant knows that

Not Lazy, strolling, Mr composure Berba-suck!!!
Re: Berbatov Versus Ibrahimovic by tkb417(m): 7:42pm On Feb 12, 2009
When a top striker starts learning how to keep the goal then something is wrong. Was he playing behind Robbie Keane,Jermaine Defoe(Tottenham) Stilian Petrov, Martin Petrov, Yankov,(Bulgaria) Franca, Krzynowek(Leverkusen) .
dont tell me river blindness is part of ur problems
does Berba play ahead of keane and Defoe?
Re: Berbatov Versus Ibrahimovic by dayokanu(m): 7:47pm On Feb 12, 2009
TKB, So Robbie Keane and Defoe are now the top strikers? Tell me any situation where any of the 2 have played ahead of another striker
Re: Berbatov Versus Ibrahimovic by Sauron1: 7:50pm On Feb 12, 2009
dayokanu:

When a top striker starts learning how to keep the goal then something is wrong. Was he playing behind Robbie Keane,Jermaine Defoe(Tottenham) Stilian Petrov, Martin Petrov, Yankov,(Bulgaria) Franca, Krzynowek(Leverkusen) .

That was why he emerged the top scorer for Tottenham and Bulgaria.
In Man Utd, we don't play with a top striker. . . . .We have not done that since Saha's injury/departure.


Berbatov is a top striker!! That is what he has always been for all the clubs he played for and country. Its his laziness and disability that turned him into
The composure in the final third? Then he has failed cos Man Utd has scored far less goals since he brought his useless composure.

He has not failed. . . . .If the other strikers have been sharper they woulda copped more goals.


Rooney and Tevez hussle around running all over and Berba is supposed to be the cool finisher. But he is too lazy to do anything like that.
United leads the table because of the discipline of the defence Not by any attacking brilliance.

Look at this onanist spewing gibberish. . . . .When has hustling around from strikers become a main feature?
Isn't that the reason Berba was purchased in the first place?? A striker with a contrasting style. . . .
I have educated u that running around is a red herring. . . .With the hustling around of Tevez/Rooney, they have not done better than Berba.


Loads of 1-0 victory shows that the defence is doing the job and not the attack. Not conceding in like 13 games is the work of defenders and to an extent midfielders even an infant knows that

Loads of 1-0 cannot say the defence is doing the job. . . . .It's a different case if the chances have been few.
United create tonnes and tonnes of chances in their matches but there hasn't been a solid consistency in the striking department.
Rooney flips in and out of the team due to injuries and Tevez is unsure of his future here.


Not Lazy, strolling, Mr composure Berba-suck!!!

Lazy or not. . . . .United fans love him that way.
Like i have said, u can go and hang urself.
A lazy Berbatov has a higher international goal ratio than Klose and Luca Toni.
That is enough to put you to shame eternally.
Re: Berbatov Versus Ibrahimovic by tkb417(m): 7:51pm On Feb 12, 2009
answer my question
does Berba play ahead of keane and Defoe?
NO. Berba NEVER was a top man for Spurs.
The way Spurs play, u'll never pick a topman. Im sure the only natural topman they've had in recent times is Roman

Its just like when Tevez and Rooney played 2geda last season, both of them were complementing each other, none was a top striker
Exactly the same scenario when berba and keane played 2geda so dont yan dusts
Re: Berbatov Versus Ibrahimovic by tkb417(m): 7:53pm On Feb 12, 2009
Dayo
whos the topman for UTd now?
if u say Berba, then u need aspirin, if you say Rooney, then i'll recommend some mental tests!!

some clubs dont play like that

tell me the topman between Luca and klose!!
Re: Berbatov Versus Ibrahimovic by dayokanu(m): 8:05pm On Feb 12, 2009
TKB,
Try watching football instead of getting drunk at every available opportunity.

Luca plays ahead of Klose. Dont even try stepping into unknown territory.

That was why he emerged the top scorer for Tottenham and Bulgaria.
In Man Utd, we don't play with a top striker. . . . .We have not done that since Saha's injury/departure.
answer my question
does Berba play ahead of keane and Defoe?
NO. Berba NEVER was a top man for Spurs.
The way Spurs play, u'll never pick a topman

Can someone here enlighten the other?

He has not failed. . . . .If the other strikers have been sharper they woulda copped more goals.

Berbasuck has played more league games than any of the other 2 strikers. Man Utd hasnt been scoring well as they used to in the league show Berba sucks!!!

Loads of 1-0 cannot say the defence is doing the job. . . . .It's a different case if the chances have been few.
United create tonnes and tonnes of chances in the game but there has been a solid consistency in the striking department.
Rooney flips in and out of the team due to injuries and Tevez is unsure of his future here.

You just shot yourself in th leg here. United creates loads of chances for whom? I hope Mr composure was bought to be composed and tuck the ball in but he is still strolling in the middle of the field
Re: Berbatov Versus Ibrahimovic by tkb417(m): 8:11pm On Feb 12, 2009
TKB,
Try watching football instead of getting drunk at every available opportunity.

Luca plays ahead of Klose. Dont even try stepping into unknown territory.
ure sick
answer questions and stop dropping meaningless cliches

who was the topman in Spurs?
u dont know? then keep silent for life. Its better u admit u dont know than playing smart here

who plays as a topman in UTD? u dont know

just crawl back to ur hole and stop saying shits

and how is it ur biz if i drink all ma life? am i complaining to u?
Re: Berbatov Versus Ibrahimovic by dayokanu(m): 8:13pm On Feb 12, 2009
Go and watch spurs match. Anyone would see that Berbatov was the striker for Tottenham.
Re: Berbatov Versus Ibrahimovic by tkb417(m): 8:18pm On Feb 12, 2009
Go and watch spurs match. Anyone would see that Berbatov was the striker for Tottenham.
shuuuussssssshh
i see these games more than u

even when you were in 9ja, u'll never watch football. Urs na to dey fck ashawo up and down and then read goal.com

stop giving me political answers. yeah, he was a striker for Spurs. support or topman is the question or are u having menses?
Re: Berbatov Versus Ibrahimovic by Sauron1: 8:20pm On Feb 12, 2009
dayokanu:

Berbasuck has played more league games than any of the other 2 strikers. Man Utd hasnt been scoring well as they used to in the league show Berba sucks!!!

Shut ur filthy mouth. . . . . .Berbatov joined Man Utd this season.
U don't expect him to fire full cylinders like Tevez and Rooney who have settled in well over the years UNLESS you are a cretin.
Even with that, he has not fared badly. . . . . .He has 4 goals in 3 UCL appearances. 11 goals in 26 apperances in TOTAL.



You just shot yourself in th leg here. United creates loads of chances for whom? I hope Mr composure was bought to be composed and tuck the ball in but he is still strolling in the middle of the field

Berbatov is the creator u dolt!!!
He has the highest number of assists from OPEN PLAY should tell you he is governed by creating goals more than scoring.
Why are u such an unrepentant sod?? He has joined a team where the responsibilities of freekicks or taking penalties does not rest on his shoulders.
In Tottenham, he was taking those so comparing him to other strikers shows you are STUPID!!!
Re: Berbatov Versus Ibrahimovic by dayokanu(m): 8:29pm On Feb 12, 2009
@tkb,
Berbatov was the top striker for SPuds.

Shut ur filthy mouth. . . . . .Berbatov joined Man Utd this season.
U don't expect him to fire full cylinders like Tevez and Rooney who have settled in well over the years UNLESS you are a cretin.
Even with that, he has not fared badly. . . . . .He has 4 goals in 3 UCL appearances. 11 goals in 26 apperances in TOTAL.

How come Santa cruz and Torres fired on all cylinders in their first season at their respective clubs? How come RVN fired on all cylinder at this same Man Utd o this same Berbasuck fired on all cylinders in his first season at Spurs?
Give up you are clueless!!!!!

Berbatov is the creator u dolt!!!
He has the highest number of assists from OPEN PLAY should tell you he is governed about creating goals more than scoring.
Why are u such an unrepentant sod?? He has joined a team where the responsibilities of freekicks or taking penalties does not rest on his shoulders.
In Tottenham, he was taking those so comparing him to other strikers shows you are STUPID

Soon I would start hearing Berbascuk made the most saves or defensive tackles like Alan Smith a failed striker.
Re: Berbatov Versus Ibrahimovic by Sauron1: 8:45pm On Feb 12, 2009
dayokanu:

How come Santa cruz and Torres fired on all cylinders in their first season at their respective clubs? How come RVN fired on all cylinder at this same Man Utd o this same Berbasuck fired on all cylinders in his first season at Spurs?
Give up you are clueless!!!!!

If only u were not born with autism, you would realise Santa Cruz, Torres and Van Nistelrooy ARE all out and out strikers.
Lemme give u a tutorial cos it seems you need to be lectured why United signed Berbatov. . . .

Ferguson signed Berbatov because it  was really noticeable last season how much we struggled without Rooney.
I think Berbatov was signed so that we had another player with Rooney's vision and creativity in the final third, something that Tevez - for all his qualities - lacks.

Berbatov has never scored 20 league goals anywhere before so if you think Fergie bought him to score 40+ goals like Ruud, then your 2nd name should be CRETIN. Although, i wouldn't be surprised if that name isn't on your B.C. grin grin grin grin

The signing of Berbatov has allowed us to continue to play in the same way we did last season, without an obvious front man but with relentless passing and movement setting up opportunities for players throughout our midfield and attack.

Berbatov is absolutely perfect for this style of play and the more the season goes on, the more effective he will become as he gets used to the movement of the players around him and as they start to predict his passes.

As was pointed out many times last season, it's the flexibility and fluidity of our attack that made us so hard to defend against and, IMO, signing an out and out striker would make us more predictable and take away the qualities that helped us win the double.

Last season, it was Ronaldo that got the lion's share of the goals. I think they'll be more evenly spread round this time but i still think our midfielders and wingers will chip in with plenty of goals, thanks to the style of total football we've perfected this last couple of seasons.

If it ain't broke don't fix it. . . . .If after this lecture, you still moan and groan like a lobotomised ape then may God help you.


Soon I would start hearing Berbascuk made the most saves or defensive tackles like Alan Smith a failed striker.

Believe whatever u want to believe cos i have identifed you as an idiot.
Berbatov is CLASS, he moves on the football pitch like Roger Federer could about two or three years ago. . . .making all movements look so effortless!
Lemme ask you. . . . . .Is Federer lazy because of his languid style?
Re: Berbatov Versus Ibrahimovic by dayokanu(m): 8:56pm On Feb 12, 2009
The signing of Berbatov has allowed us to continue to play in the same way we did last season, without an obvious front man but with relentless passing and movement setting up opportunities for players throughout our midfield and attack

Except that the team scores less this season. Berba has even affected the productivity of other players who were scoring like Hell last season due to his bad positioning, lack of vision and Laziness

Why is your attack less productive than it was last season? Answer: BERBA SUCKS!!!! grin grin grin grin grin
Re: Berbatov Versus Ibrahimovic by Sauron1: 9:11pm On Feb 12, 2009
dayokanu:

Except that the team scores less this season. Berba has even affected the productivity of other players who were scoring like Hell last season due to his bad positioning, lack of vision and Laziness

Shut ur dirty trap and stop talking like an amateur.
No 2 seasons are the same u schmuk!!!


Why is your attack less productive than it was last season? Answer: BERBA SUCKS!!!! grin grin grin grin grin

How has the attack been less productive?? Have we played the same fixtures that got us that many goals last season?
If u match the fixtures resultz for resultz, United have scored 4 goals more and 6 points MORE!!!
Shouldn't u be called a REPROBATE comparing a season where we have played the top 9 teams that finished directly below us away from home in the first half of the season TO last season where the tough away fixtures were well interspersed??
Re: Berbatov Versus Ibrahimovic by dayokanu(m): 9:13pm On Feb 12, 2009
I dunno about those stats.

Tell me how many goals Man Utd had scored as at first week of last february without Berba suck and now compare with this season
Re: Berbatov Versus Ibrahimovic by Sauron1: 9:18pm On Feb 12, 2009
dayokanu:

I dunno about those stats.
Tell me how many goals Man Utd had scored as at first week of last february without Berba suck and now compare with this season

The stats will not tell a true story because at this stage last season, we haven't even played Chelsea at SB!!!

This season, the first half had United playing 10 of their toughest rivals away from home thus draining the goals and points too.
Have u asked yourself why United have not looked back since Christmas??
We have not conceded a goal never mind dropping a single point because the tough fixtures are now at OT while we play weak teams away from home.
If u put all this into consideration, u cannot judge the attack until the end of the season when the whole 38 games woulda been played.

I hope i have been able to clean the cobwebs in your brain cells.
Re: Berbatov Versus Ibrahimovic by A40(m): 12:07am On Feb 13, 2009
tkb417:

shuuuussssssshh
i see these games more than u

even when you were in 9ja, u'll never watch football. Urs na to dey fck ashawo up and down and then read goal.com

stop giving me political answers. yeah, he was a striker for Spurs. support or topman is the question or are u having menses?

O ga ooh!! See as una just dey air una dirty laundry for public grin grin
Re: Berbatov Versus Ibrahimovic by tayoccu(m): 12:12pm On Feb 13, 2009
Let's look @ this from another angle,
check out the caliber of clubs Ibra's played for : Ajax, Juventus, Inter Milan.
Man u is Berbasulk's first "big team".

Ibra's been turning in sterling performances for years,
Berba has a couple of notable seasons , and people start saying his better than Ibra, How now?
Re: Berbatov Versus Ibrahimovic by tkb417(m): 12:18pm On Feb 13, 2009
@tkb,
Berbatov was the top striker for SPuds.
try getting the clips or reading up.

2006-2007
Berba 23 goals; keane 22 goals in competitions.
2007-2008  
Berba 23 goals; Keane 23 goals

Berba and Keano had a partnership synonymous with what Rooney and Tevez had last season.
Re: Berbatov Versus Ibrahimovic by Sauron1: 12:24pm On Feb 13, 2009
tayoccu:

Ibra's been turning in sterling performances for years,
Berba has a couple of notable seasons , and people start saying his better than Ibra, How now?

Don't talk about what you don't know.

Berbatov has not failed yet to score 23+ goals in the last 4 seasons.
These goals were scored in a smaller club(we all know how difficult it is for smaller clubs to score goals). . . .
Ibrahimovic plays in a big club and should be doing better.

Lets leave club aside. . . . . .Ibra plays for Sweden, Berba plays for Bulgaria.
By default, Sweden is a bigger football country than Bulgaria but Berbatov has banged 41 odd goals in 66 games.
What does that tell you?

In terms of goal scoring, Berbatov is better. . . . . .in terms of assists, Berbatov is better.
Case closed!!!!!
Re: Berbatov Versus Ibrahimovic by tayoccu(m): 12:59pm On Feb 13, 2009
did he score 23+ last season?
any way if he's top notch like Ibra, he'd have been playing in big clubs.
the coaches of Ajax,Juventus and inter milan are not daft, neither are they blind. If berba's anything close to Ibra, they'd have snapped him up a long time ago.

Re: Berbatov Versus Ibrahimovic by tkb417(m): 1:32pm On Feb 13, 2009
did he score 23+ last season?
any way if he's top notch like Ibra, he'd have been playing in big clubs.
the coaches of Ajax,Juventus and inter milan are not daft, neither are they blind. If berba's anything close to Ibra, they'd have snapped him up a long time ago.

and who are the coaches of Ajax, Inter and Juventus?
so by ur standard, playing for those clubs is the ish. make sence bro

Berba plays for the European & the world champions so what fckery are u spewing?

isnt Aguerro playing for Atletico, what about David Villa, do you know Robinho?
Did you see Tevez in the colors of West Ham? did you see Torres playing for Atletico?
when the time comes for you to move, you move.

Ronaldo played for PSV b moving to other clubs
Luca Toni never played for big clubs till his move to Bayern shits
so what are you talking about?
Re: Berbatov Versus Ibrahimovic by Sauron1: 1:55pm On Feb 13, 2009
tayoccu:

did he score 23+ last season?
any way if he's top notch like Ibra, he'd have been playing in big clubs.
the coaches of Ajax,Juventus and inter milan are not daft, neither are they blind. If berba's anything close to Ibra, they'd have snapped him up a long time ago.

He hasn't scored LESS THAN 23 goals in the last 4 seasons!!!
Something Ibrahimovic has managed to do only ONCE in the last SEVEN SEASONS.
Re: Berbatov Versus Ibrahimovic by dayokanu(m): 4:55pm On Feb 13, 2009
2006-2007
Berba 23 goals; keane 22 goals in competitions.
2007-2008
Berba 23 goals; Keane 23 goals

Berba and Keano had a partnership synonymous with what Rooney and Tevez had last season.

Del piero was highest goal scorer, Totti scores loads of goals, Messi and Etoo have similar goal returns this season,

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