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| Re: I Wonder If These Are Found In Quran by Menace2Society(m): 9:59am On Apr 24, 2015 |
smallrincowis16:Islamic!U guys are problem of the world  |
| Re: I Wonder If These Are Found In Quran by stonemind(f): 10:01am On Apr 24, 2015 |
simsing: Pls which one is religion of piss? Christianity that encourages killing or Islam that encourages peace? |
| Re: I Wonder If These Are Found In Quran by eshbeewanna: 10:02am On Apr 24, 2015 |
simsing:The war engageg by the Crusaders in the name of Christianity,the PKK Christian Group in the US,the Rev King of Nigeria, the christian Lord Resistance Army in Africa The Hiroshima Bombing that killed thousand of pple in Japan was perpetrated by your Christian U.S Brothers. Rememer Slave Trade in Africa by your christian brothers from the Western World do you how many of our Black Brothers that were killed on the High sea enroute Europe your Church was involved.How about Apatheid in South Africa was it not your christian Brothers.They are just too numerous to be mentioned.Go and read you would be enligthened. 8 Likes |
| Re: I Wonder If These Are Found In Quran by Nobody: 10:04am On Apr 24, 2015 |
stonemind: and how do Muslims cover their sins, with the blood of innocent people abi? 1 Like |
| Re: I Wonder If These Are Found In Quran by Nobody: 10:10am On Apr 24, 2015 |
stonemind: how many christian kill Muslims in the 21st century or are groups like bokoharam, Isis and alqeada killing for Jesus? 3 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: I Wonder If These Are Found In Quran by stonemind(f): 10:12am On Apr 24, 2015 |
simsing: Just prove to me that the op lied against your religion. I only need a prove 1 Like |
| Re: I Wonder If These Are Found In Quran by stonemind(f): 10:16am On Apr 24, 2015 |
simsing: Bro all these terrorist organizations are no Muslims I believe the are inflated by political power plays. 1 Like |
| Re: I Wonder If These Are Found In Quran by Nobody: 10:17am On Apr 24, 2015 |
eshbeewanna: Keep your enlightenment. I can as well go on and on of how Muslim fanatics kills innocent pple from ages past. we want peace in the world today. Islam brainwashes simple people to commit crimes in the worst way possible. What kind of god do you worship. 1 Like |
| Re: I Wonder If These Are Found In Quran by eshbeewanna: 10:25am On Apr 24, 2015 |
simsing: My friend pls go and make reserch and and the truth shall set u free.So you don't know that all these Groups you mentioned were created by your Christian led US Govt and their Christian AllIED Group if not why are the Terrorist Group you mentioned killing Muslims if they are true Muslims.There is more to what you see than you discern.Hello go and think and read it will help you ok 1 Like |
| Re: I Wonder If These Are Found In Quran by Nobody: 10:34am On Apr 24, 2015 |
stonemind: Am not here to prove that a religion is superior than the other before a Muslim extremist can come out to say this other religion is a religion of war. you need to tell us how your religion is encouraging a peaceful coexistence. as far as am concerned buhda is better than islam 1 Like |
| Re: I Wonder If These Are Found In Quran by BERNIMOORE: 10:37am On Apr 24, 2015 |
smallrincowis16: Thank you for picking these verse out of the bible, i believe that you want to learn,so lets pick The bible verses one by one and compare to quaran before we decide who it applies to ''KILL HOMOSEXUALS:[size=14pt] LEVITICUS 20:13 vs Surat At-Tawbah - سورة التوبة 9:123[/size] who was directed to kill homosexuals LEVITICUS 20:13? Definately not Christians, and lets read who the message was directed to; Leviticus 20:1The message was strictly for children of isreal and NOT BELIEVERS. this cannot be said about surah 1;123 which was rightly directed to believers (of islam) and so gave room to the terrorist adopting it to justify their crime. read; [size=14pt]Surat At-Tawbah - سورة التوبة 9:123 ''O you who have believed'' is an open statement that the terrorist adopt and they have the right to adopt it since the quaran did not specify a boundary of which it applies except forcefull denials without backing from muslims, since you want to learn let me show you how bible explain that to us that we christians are not under old law through moses(torah) but rather believers only through 'faith in christ' and NOT according to law(torah) Galatians 3:23-27New King James Version (NKJV) https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Galatians+3%3A23-27
and why we have the record of killings by isreal in christian bible has been answered above in galatians 3:23..24 Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25 But after faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor any objection? 3 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: I Wonder If These Are Found In Quran by eshbeewanna: 10:38am On Apr 24, 2015 |
simsing: Just the same way they programme you believe everything you see and read about moslem on the media. You have not for once ask youself that if these things they make us believe about Islam are true why people converting to islam at alerming rate in the US and Europe in general. The simple truth is that they have discovered the propaganda of the Christian world about Islam which have made them move away from life of ignorance to enlightenmenmt.They were once behaving the way are doing now back then 4 Likes |
| Re: I Wonder If These Are Found In Quran by Nobody: 10:41am On Apr 24, 2015 |
eshbeewanna: we all no that U.S is most democratic country in the world. what is the relationship BTW U.S and Saudi Arabia, Iran now, Egypt. Stop deceiving yourself. we all no what this Islamic extremist want. stop hiding from the truth. 2 Likes |
| Re: I Wonder If These Are Found In Quran by Adetula1(m): 10:43am On Apr 24, 2015 |
smallrincowis16:trying to enlighten your ignorance would be a serious waste of time but try and compared the character,legacy,life style,teachings ...and so on of the two men(Jesus and mohammed),am sure you would be ashamed of been a muslim 2 Likes |
| Re: I Wonder If These Are Found In Quran by Nobody: 10:47am On Apr 24, 2015 |
eshbeewanna: what are you saying, now in the western countries once you bear Arabic names, or u convert to Moslems or you are Muslim immigrant, the authority will start keeping a surveillance watch on you cos u a potential killer. the few you said are converted are brainwAshed to go and fight with Isis and alqeada 2 Likes |
| Re: I Wonder If These Are Found In Quran by eshbeewanna: 10:50am On Apr 24, 2015 |
BERNIMOORE: Your response is not knew to me christians are always running from pillar to post.However have you read about the Christians Crusaders and their Holy War are they not Christians backed by your Pope,bishop etc go read about there artrocities they committed agains innocent Childre and Women back then in the Jerusalem.How blood of people they killed in their thousand all in the name of Christ almost filled the crusaders up to their knees.My brother go read. 1 Like |
| Re: I Wonder If These Are Found In Quran by BERNIMOORE: 10:58am On Apr 24, 2015 |
eshbeewanna: keep to the issue here on the forum. i expect you to prove that terrorist are not inclusive in believers that surah 123 is talking about just as i have showed you that christians are not under law read again and prove me wrong on this issue, dont muddle up several issues, you can open a thread for others oya; lets pick The bible verses one by one and compare to quaran before we decide who it applies to ''KILL HOMOSEXUALS:[size=14pt] LEVITICUS 20:13 vs Surat At-Tawbah - سورة التوبة 9:123[/size] who was directed to kill homosexuals LEVITICUS 20:13? Definately not Christians, and lets read who the message was directed to; Leviticus 20:1The message was strictly for children of isreal and NOT BELIEVERS. this cannot be said about surah 1;123 which was rightly directed to believers (of islam) and so gave room to the terrorist adopting it to justify their crime. read; [size=14pt]Surat At-Tawbah - سورة التوبة 9:123 ''O you who have believed'' is an open statement that the terrorist adopt and they have the right to adopt it since the quaran did not specify a boundary of which it applies except forcefull denials without backing from muslims, since you want to learn let me show you how bible explain that to us that we christians are not under old law through moses(torah) but rather believers only through 'faith in christ' and NOT according to law(torah) Galatians 3:23-27New King James Version (NKJV) https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Galatians+3%3A23-27
and why we have the record of killings by isreal in christian bible has been answered above in galatians 3:23..24 Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25 But after faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor 1 Like |
| Re: I Wonder If These Are Found In Quran by balaclava: 10:59am On Apr 24, 2015 |
smallrincowis16, eshbeewanna, stonemind, babane442 u cannot understand no matter d explanations given to u. If we start from now till tomorrow, u still will not grasp. 1 Corinthians 2: 14-16 14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. 16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? but we have the mind of Christ. Understanding this subjects will only come from a mind of Christ which obviously u don't have. Therefore no need for exposition Cos u just won't get it. I pray your eyes be opened soon. 2 Likes |
| Re: I Wonder If These Are Found In Quran by eshbeewanna: 11:02am On Apr 24, 2015 |
simsing: That is what they have programme you to believe.Anyway the same Christian US Govt will not leave them alone because of their OilYou may like to know that the world Problem is caused by these Christian Nation through there policy of Intrest. If the us doesn't trust an average Muslims they should stop running after them for frienship. |
| Re: I Wonder If These Are Found In Quran by BERNIMOORE: 11:06am On Apr 24, 2015 |
eshbeewanna: you are diverting from the topic having been defeated, do you have a clarification to surah verses in the quaran that instruct muslims to kill? NO read this clarification inside bible again Galatians 3:23-27New King James Version (NKJV) https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Galatians+3%3A23-27
 muslims are the problem of the world today 2 Likes |
| Re: I Wonder If These Are Found In Quran by eshbeewanna: 11:07am On Apr 24, 2015 |
balaclava: Oga your bible says Come let us reason together.The moment you pple know u can't win an arguement u resort to spirituality and u leave sound resoning. |
| Re: I Wonder If These Are Found In Quran by Nobody: 11:15am On Apr 24, 2015 |
eshbeewanna:why should they leave them alone. tell me why? so that they grow to become a bokoharam group and destroy their peaceful country abi they know what is happening to Nigeria ,Libya and co. they are not slowpoke 3 Likes |
| Re: I Wonder If These Are Found In Quran by tuniski: 11:20am On Apr 24, 2015 |
eshbeewanna:your head is there joor! The worst evils have been committed by the xtians but, many are poor students of history and lack knowledge of the bible! What is happening to moslems is that islam is going thru a phase of assertion! |
| Re: I Wonder If These Are Found In Quran by Nobody: 11:24am On Apr 24, 2015 |
smallrincowis16:Op the fact that no Christian has taken up arm as a result of those quotations should tell your dumb brain that you are mis-interpreting the Bible. Make and post here the list of top 10 terrorist organisations in the world, let cross-examine them and see which religion incites violence. You people have been brainwashed from accepting the TRUTH that islam is the WORLD LARGEST TERRORIST MOVEMENT. Don't forget Dokubo had to abandon Christian, take up Islam, had a special training in Islamic Revolution before he can form the deadly militant group in ND. Don't forget your SHEKAU is an Islamic Clergy. Am waiting for you to make that list and post here. If not, shame on you and your religion. 5 Likes |
| Re: I Wonder If These Are Found In Quran by balaclava: 11:24am On Apr 24, 2015 |
eshbeewanna: Some1 with a mind of Christ don't argue, we explain and that's when we see a good reason for such... I c none @ d moment. 2 Tim 2:16 But avoid irreverent babble, for it will lead people into more and more ungodliness, Titu 3:9 But avoid foolish controversies, genealogies, dissensions, and quarrels about the law, for they are unprofitable and worthless. 2 Tim 2:23-25 Have nothing to do with foolish, ignorant controversies; you know that they breed quarrels. And the Lord's servant must not be quarrelsome but kind to everyone, able to teach, patiently enduring evil, correcting his opponents with gentleness. God may perhaps grant them repentance leading to a knowledge of the truth. ... like I said earlier, u cannot understand. 3 Likes |
| Re: I Wonder If These Are Found In Quran by babs01(m): 11:30am On Apr 24, 2015 |
okpamson15:correct or fulfil? |
| Re: I Wonder If These Are Found In Quran by Nobody: 11:42am On Apr 24, 2015 |
eshbeewanna: How should they survive if the west don't buy their oil. like I said U.S is very democratic, they don't fall for sentiments like religion you disturb the peace of other countries they deal with you terribly in accordance with international laws after they must have done international submit. |
| Re: I Wonder If These Are Found In Quran by eshbeewanna: 11:46am On Apr 24, 2015 |
BERNIMOORE: I haven't I was respondind to anoda person bro.Now let me answer ur question.the verse u quoted. U can only understand the quran if u know what lead to the verse.Let me xplain it to you God instructed Muslim to kill the known belivers then who were underminig islam then because they collude with the enemies of by killing Muslims first and even they sign peace agreement wit they were the first brake it.Therefore Allah instructed the muslim to kill them too because enemies of the state of islam and they are ready to stop at nothing but be killing Muslims with there allies.If God ask you to kill your enemies that are killing you is there anything wrong in that? Afterall we many non muslim among the muslims then who where not killed but enjoyed protection from the muslims.Go and read the commentry of that verse u will understand better .check bible luke 19V27 and Matt10V34. These bible verses talked about killing unbelivers and sinners too. |
| Re: I Wonder If These Are Found In Quran by Nobody: 11:46am On Apr 24, 2015 |
smallrincowis16:Op the fact that no Christian has taken up arm as a result of those quotations should tell your dumb brain that you are mis-interpreting the Bible. Make and post here the list of top 10 terrorist organisations in the world, let cross-examine them and see which religion incites violence. You people have been brainwashed from accepting the TRUTH that islam is the WORLD LARGEST TERRORIST MOVEMENT. Don't forget Dokubo had to abandon Christian, take up Islam, had a special training in Islamic Revolution before he can form the deadly militant group in ND. Don't forget your SHEKAU is an Islamic Clergy. Am waiting for you to make that list and post here. If not, shame on you and your religion. TOP 10 TERRORIST ORGANISATIONS IN THE WORLD Monsters with an insatiable blood-thirst or rebels with a cause? Mindless robots on a killing spree or humans fighting for greater good? Most importantly, patriots or terrorists? The above questions have, perhaps, posed a dilemma to numerous debaters and popped up as a topic to think about deeply in discussions of importance. Yet, one cannot deny that terrorists, ‘noble’ or otherwise, have caused an unthinkable amount of suffering wherever they have set their devious schemes afoot. Ranging from genocides to making governments crumble to air raids and a lot more, terrorists around the world have massacred millions in the name of religion and so called ‘glory’. While the sheer weight they carry is enough to strike terror in people’s hearts, their actions have achieved far more than just that! Out of all the numerous terrorist groups operating in various ill-fated corners of the world, following are the most lethal ones present. 10. IRISH REPUBLICAN ARMY A revolutionary organization in Ireland, it was formed out of the Irish Volunteers (founded in 1913). The IRA was responsible for waging a war of independence against the British in the period 1919-21. The entire war of independence was an extremely brutal affair and there were heavy casualties on either side. Having been trained as a guerilla unit, the IRA was skilled in quick attacks and ambushes. With an end to the war, the Anglo-Irish treaty was signed that resulted in a split within the IRA- those that supported the treaty came to be known as the Irish National Army and the rest remained affiliated to the IRA. A civil war followed as an inevitable result of the rift and the IRA lost it. Ever since, the group has remained in existence with the sole intention of overthrowing the Irish Free State and Northern Ireland in order to achieve the dream of Irish Republic. The IRA have been responsible for numerous car bombings and assassinations (including the assassination of Lord Mountbatten in 1979). 9. NAXAL/NAXALITES Deriving its name from the village of its origin, Naxalbari, in West Bengal, the Naxalites are mostly associated with the Communist Party of India (Maoist) or the CPI-M. At present, states like Chhattisgarh, Uttar Pradesh, Bihar, Jharkand, Andhra Pradesh have also fallen victim to the growth of this group. Their origin lies in a violent uprising that was led by Kanu Sanyal in 1967 to redistribute land to the landless. Their efforts were spurred on by Mao Zedong, the then chairman of the Communist Party of China, who said that the Naxalites should overthrow the government and upper class people by force. In the post-1970 era, the Naxal movement had gained a significant impetus, so much so that students from reputed colleges in Calcutta were dropping out of college in order to join the movement. Their aim was to assassinate individuals of great power and incite a civil war. In the year of 1971, the then Prime Minister Indira Gandhi had launched Operation Steeplechase (of which the Indian Army was a part) which resulted in the killing of numerous Naxalites and imprisonment of even more. At present, though reduced in number, the Naxalites still continue to operate, killing policemen, civilians and security personnel. They had been branded by Dr. Manmohan Singh as the “biggest threat to national security”. 8. BOKO HARAM A militant Islamist group in Nigeria, this group is known to receive funding from Al-Qaeda. Extremely vocal about their intolerance towards western education, Boko Haram had recently been in the news for the abduction of around 200 Nigerian girls. Boko Haram literally means “western education is sin”. Boko Haram has been alleged to have on their hands a 5000-civilians kill number between 2009 and 2014. Boko Haram, originally founded as a Sunni Islamic group, have been advocating the extremely intolerant Sharia law in places of their stronghold. Threatening to overthrow the government, which they as becoming extremely open to the western culture, Boko Haram is known to spread terror by killing people who indulge in non-islamic practices, eg drink alcohol. The founder of the sect, Mohammed Yusuf, had said in an interview that the theory about the Earth being round should be rejected as it had been propagated by the west. An incapability on the Nigerian government’s part to deal with their growing militancy, Boko Haram has also been responsible for bombing the UN headquarters in Abuja in June, 2011. 7. FARC Forças Armadas Revolucionárias da Colômbia or FARC (Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia) was formed in the 1960s. They claim to be an army of peasant Marxist-Leninists with an ulterior motive of anti-imperialism. Kidnapping, extortion, illegal mining are regular activities of FARC. The government of Colombia recognizes FARC as a terrorist organization along with many other North American, Latin American and European governments. In 1962, the Colombian government, acting on US findings, had mobilized groups of civilians to work in cooperation with the army in countering the threat posed by FARC. This was Plan Lazo that had been set into motion by then Special Warfare commander, William P. Yarborough. In 2002 it was found out that the IRA and FARC had an understanding in between them- the IRA had received almost $2 million, resulting from drug trafficking, from FARC. FARC has been attributed with numerous killings, bombings and assassinations in Colombia and have been tagged as one of the world’s largest drug trafficking organizations in the world. Although at present they are not as violently active as they once were, FARC still remains a threat to Colombian security (as had been 6. HEZBOLLAH A Shia’ist militant group based in Lebanon, they are considered to be more powerful than the Lebanese army. Founded by Muslim clerics (speared by Ayatollah Khomeini) the Hezbollah was founded mainly to counter Israeli occupation of Lebanon (1982). Their objective was well defined in that they wanted to expel any sort of western presence (especially American) from Lebanon, along with western allies. Hezbollah is known to receive training and funding from Iran and is also backed by Syria. The 1983 bombings on the US Embassy in Lebanon, the Lebanon hostage crisis from 1982 to 1992, the London Israeli Embassy attack in 1994, the AC flight 901 attack in 1994 in Panama, and many many more terrorist activities have been credited to this terrorist group. 5. ISIS The Islamic State of Iraq and Syria is a Sunni jihadist group based in the Middle-East. With an aspiration to mobilize the majority of the Muslim population under its control, the ISIS has their stronghold in Iraq, Syria, Palestine, etc. Alleged to have committed acts of great atrocity and blatant human rights violation, the ISIS has grown significantly in the last few years and is currently known to have almost 80,000 fighters in its ranks in Iraq and Syria together. In numerous raids by the ISIS civilians, including kids, have been killed. They are known for their near- inhuman treatment of civilians which includes open- firing on civilians. The ISIS has not been foreign to allegations of sexual violence either. Their recent actions have prompted USA, UK, Germany and many other countries to launch various operations aimed at infiltrating their ranks and combating their growing insurgence. 4. TEHRIK-I-TALIBAN Also known as the Tehrik I Taliban Pakistan, it forms a part of the various Islamist groups that are active in the Afghan border in Pakistan. Their objectives include overthrowing the Pakistani government, battling the NATO forces in Afghanistan and enforcing the Sharia law. Led by Maulana Fazlullah, the TTP is not directly affiliated with the Taliban (in Afghanistan). The 2010 Times Square car bombing attempt was an alleged undertaking of the TTP. The TTP has claimed responsibility for numerous attacks that include suicide bombings, bombing of UN offices in Pakistan, attacks in naval and army stations of Pakistan, etc. 3. LASHKAR-E-TOIBA One of the most notorious groups operating presently, the Lashkar-e-Toiba is most infamous for the Mumbai attacks on the 26th of November, 2008. It was responsible for the deaths of numerous civilians and it left the nation scarred. Alleged links to the secret service of Pakistan, the ISI, had resulted in a blatant breach of sovereignty (although the Pakistani government disowned any involvement). The 2001 attack on the Parliament of India was also carried out by the same group. With an objective to introduce an Islamist state in South Asia, the Lashkar- e-Toiba has also vowed to liberate Muslims residing in Indian Kashmir. They have also been known to use children, aged 13-14, from impoverished sections of the society to spread their terror activities. Bombings in Delhi (2005), bombings in Varanasi (2006), the Mumbai train bombings (2006) and numerous other activities have been carried out by LeT. What is even more shocking is that Saudi Arabia is an alleged sponsor of this group. 2. TALIBAN The Afghan chapter of the Taliban, known simply as the Taliban, are omnipresent in illicit activities. Ranging from drug trafficking to human trafficking, extortion,etc. they have an annual revenue of almost $400 million annually. An Islamist fundamental group in Afghanistan, Mohammed Omar is the founding member and has been the spiritual leader ever since its inception in 1994. The September 11, 2001 attacks on the twin towers of the World Trade Center in New York was carried out by the Taliban. The Taliban has its origins in the struggle against the Soviet that the US carried out on Afghan soil. The Taliban was mobilized by the USA (and trained by ISI) in order to liberate Afghanistan from the clutches of the Soviet Union. Alleged to have been the perpetrator to some of the most heinous human rights violations (ranging from ethnic cleansing, raping women, etc) in Afghanistan (while in power) the Taliban are certainly one of the most deadly terror groups in the world at present. 1. AL-QAEDA Founded by Osama Bin Laden, Abdullah Azzam and other militants, the al-Qaeda’s objective is to unite the Muslims across the world in global jihad and a strict interpretation of the Sharia law. The al-Qaeda is a Wahhabi organization. The al-Qaeda had a role to play in the Spetember 11 attacks, the 1998 US embassy bombings and the 2002 Bali bombings. Although the death of Osama Bin Laden has proven to be a setback to their operations, they are still the deadliest among all such groups in the world. Their characteristic way of carrying out missions is to employ suicide bombers or execute suicide missions. Their attacks are also known to be sectarian in nature. The Ashoura massacre and the April 2007 Baghdad bombings are testimony to that fact. The 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center was also carried out by al-Qaeda. They are known to be extremely influential and have been alleged to own several aircrafts including Boeing 727s and executive jets. www.listovative.com/top-10-most-dangerous-terrorist-organizations-in-the-world/ |
| Re: I Wonder If These Are Found In Quran by BlackBaron: 11:56am On Apr 24, 2015 |
Laws of old. I'm trying to remember last time (you heard, if ever) a 'Christian' went on film quoting from the aforementioned scriptures and beheading or stoning a 'sinner'. However, another religion with the letter 'I' ... 'havoc all over the world' ... 'quoting from their holy book'... 'destroying living and even inanimate objects'. The world since moved on from old testament ways, but their adherents ('I') have chosen to remain in darkness and would rather blame others, the CIA, conspiracies, et al for the state of their religion but themselves. 1 Like |
| Re: I Wonder If These Are Found In Quran by eshbeewanna: 11:57am On Apr 24, 2015 |
simsing: Your bible says my pple perish becos of lack of knoweledge. You christians jst talk any how the boko haram that you mentioned are killing muslims in the north and you can't even discern the properganda behinde it.Are u not the slow poke now.Once again pls seek knowledge and u will be set free. 1 Like |
| Re: I Wonder If These Are Found In Quran by Nobody: 12:03pm On Apr 24, 2015 |
eshbeewanna: u can only undastand the bible too if you read it as well from old to new testament and not quoting out of context. you try very hard to dispute what the Christians tell you no matter how hard they try. yet you want them to believe your explanations when its the direct opposite of the practice in all your moslem world. |
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