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Re: Another Approach To The South African Attacks By Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:32am On Apr 29, 2015
[b]Special envoy: A more constructive step would be to designate a presidential special envoy to liaise directly with President Zuma and appropriate cabinet-level officials in South Africa. The official should be a well known statesman preferably with a prior relationship with President Zuma. A former head of state or someone like former Commonwealth Secretary Anyaoku would be ideal for the position. This step would underscore Nigeria’s concerns for its citizens abroad. It would also signal to the South Africans that this episode cannot simply be left to fade into memory as has happened in the past. The envoy would press to ensure that adequate security is availed the Nigerian community to prevent further incidents this time of tension. The Envoy would also explore ways the Nigerian community can be better integrated and accepted in South Africa. Most importantly, he will press the South African government to improve its ability to ensure such things do not repeat themselves on such a large scale[/b]
Re: Another Approach To The South African Attacks By Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu by OrlandoOwoh(m): 8:32am On Apr 29, 2015
Mopolchi:
Rubbish! We should not blame SA government for the xenophobia but you, Tinubu is here blaming Nigerian government for boko haram. The recall, GEJ did so, is the right thing to do since Zuma never thought it wise to save Nigerians from the onslaught. Recalling does not mean that the Nigerian government left in the lurch its citizens in jeopardy, however, it is a strong signal of disapproval to the SA government's inaction. A Nigerian life is as valuable as a SA life. If the SA government can protect its citizens, it should do the same for Nigerians living with them.
Rubbish! Who should be the priority of the Nigerian Government, our envoy or nationals doing business in South Africa? Now that our envoy has been recalled, which may lead to the closure of our High Commission, why would Nigerians under attacks run to? Nationals or anybody for that matter, as an international practice can not be arrested when in an embassy.
Re: Another Approach To The South African Attacks By Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu by Faremisodeeq(m): 8:36am On Apr 29, 2015
[quote author=sinizia post=33222728]

Your posts lends credence to the saying; "if you want to hide something from a Black man (Nigerians especially), put it in a book."

If it's to ogle at pórn for 3 hours, you won't find it "too long." undecided

@ Topic, i wonder why Tinubu criticizes everything without finding facts. For Christ's sake, Nigeria didn't recall the man. GEJ never gave that order. The morón that carried out that task has been suspended by GEJ. Tinubu should take a chill pill with this unsolicited and meaningless attacks.

Do u fink i am jobless like u.
i am on my way to work so i dont have the time to read this post
Re: Another Approach To The South African Attacks By Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu by Nobody: 8:36am On Apr 29, 2015
Mtcheew
Re: Another Approach To The South African Attacks By Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu by frisky2good(m): 8:40am On Apr 29, 2015
Summary please
Re: Another Approach To The South African Attacks By Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu by Bishop44: 8:42am On Apr 29, 2015
Opinedecandid:


You think he wrote that by himself?

Besides, he can't go to equity, his hands are not very clean.

And if by any means he has ever looted or is currently looting, then he falls in the category of the 'idiots' you have mentioned.

His hands need not be very clean, clean is sufficient wink
Re: Another Approach To The South African Attacks By Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu by BraniacX(m): 8:47am On Apr 29, 2015
Just hear to result stewpeed comments by southwestern shee-ple quote me and watch me become the iliad of your woes angry
Re: Another Approach To The South African Attacks By Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu by rikamann: 8:48am On Apr 29, 2015
san316:
Intellectual. Jagaban the great strategist.
The so called JAGABAN is good. He could have his own faults like everyone else but he is a strategist, good at getting quality results
Re: Another Approach To The South African Attacks By Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu by hotgunz(m): 8:49am On Apr 29, 2015
Redoil:
A clown from toronto is plagarising another person write up. Tinubu the cheerleader of the terrorist party thanks for bringing the gurls back and i hope none is pregnant.
To know more about APC cheack my signature
how did tinubu brought d girls back abeg? U don smoke ds mornin I guess.
Re: Another Approach To The South African Attacks By Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu by Redoil: 8:51am On Apr 29, 2015
MizMyColi:


If he really wrote this, which I think he did....
Then he has made valid and constructive points.
One that our government should look into.

Though I fault the part where he said the south African government is not to blame for their lackadaisicality, while I understand where he is coming from, I think it is in order to call out the SA government for their gross mismanagement of the crisis.

All in all, this is a really good write up.
Kudos to Mr BAT.
you realy think tinubu wrote this?
Re: Another Approach To The South African Attacks By Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu by Ayus34(m): 8:51am On Apr 29, 2015
reason I pray for this shit called a country to divide 24/7.....some gave a suggestion on how we can practically solve the problems posing a risk to us,what some fools out of hatred can only do is to attack his personality and rained abuse on him,and of he refuse to do that,still same people will give u million reason on how he fund the xenophobia attack from Nigeria.....and failed reason beyond their nose,I just wish this useless country can be divided and everyone answers his father's name.......enough of sharing the same nationality with dullards especially the one from that erosion ridden land,who claimed to develop someone else land while their cursed land is in a state of jeopardy!
Re: Another Approach To The South African Attacks By Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu by Exceptionalkeil(m): 8:52am On Apr 29, 2015
Nigeria should name a high-level special envoy
to visit the nation and engage directly with President
Zuma. Nigeria should also send an Interagency Coordinated
Action Team (ICAT) to South Africa to complement enhance
efforts to provide consular services, liaison with police and
security and ensure that affected Nigerians receive proper
restitution. We should also talk to major South Africa
businesses resident in Nigeria. It would help douse tensions
and ill will here if they announced a plan to contribute to
the restitution of affected Nigerians.






Some might see this as an attack on Gej's Government but I see it as the best advise... and i wonder what all the advisers to the president are doing with their head.

On point baba, I think this is the best option available.
Re: Another Approach To The South African Attacks By Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu by Redoil: 8:52am On Apr 29, 2015
7lives:

Werey.
why na
Re: Another Approach To The South African Attacks By Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu by Youpele52: 9:02am On Apr 29, 2015
Alphaoscar:




He is not part of the criminals you call heroes and role model now, ASIWAJU is a democrat with penchant for result delivery. You will see real governance from may 29.

Oh like the one in Lagos and other APC states.
Re: Another Approach To The South African Attacks By Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu by PassingShot(m): 9:05am On Apr 29, 2015
shortgun:
When did he wrote this? Nobody told him that Jonathan didn't recall the Ambassador?

I don't know d purpose of this article but he's not making sense

shocked shocked shocked @ the bolded.

For the article to appear in today's paper, it must have been submitted about two days earlier.
Re: Another Approach To The South African Attacks By Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu by Sibrah: 9:16am On Apr 29, 2015
DickDastardly:
Too Long
If it is too long, why not just leave it for people coming to read to judge. You don't have to distort people's opinion like that.
Re: Another Approach To The South African Attacks By Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu by Nobody: 9:26am On Apr 29, 2015
benuejosh:
are you related to the landlord of the lagoon? OA.
my guy i joke i dey oooooooo, ICC no b small court ooo
Re: Another Approach To The South African Attacks By Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu by Nobody: 9:29am On Apr 29, 2015
DickDastardly:
Too Long

Too fu@! $king long. This is not Bila Ahmed tinubu. He usually goes for the kill when threatened. E.g funso wiliams
Re: Another Approach To The South African Attacks By Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu by kinibigdeal(m): 9:29am On Apr 29, 2015
I never expected you to blame south African government because they help you
Re: Another Approach To The South African Attacks By Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu by Mopolchi: 9:45am On Apr 29, 2015
OrlandoOwoh:

Rubbish to what I have said! Who should be the priority of the Nigerian Government, our envoy or nationals doing business in South Africa? Now that our envoy has been recalled, which may lead to the closure of our High Commission, why would Nigerians under attacks run to? Nationals or anybody for that matter, as an international practice can not be arrested when in an embassy.
If Nigerian government does not protect SAs working in mtn, shoprite, game, stanbic bank and allow SAs be killed, won't the SA government not complain? If after the complaint fell on deaf ears, won't the SA government not do the same as the Nigerian government? The recalling is a sign of disapproval for the nonchalance of the SA government. Mark you, when Buhari assumes office, it will be even worse to the SA government. As for our people there, they should find a way out of that place. There is nothing viable there unless drugs selling, prostitution and raping and killing of foreigners (which for them are the cause of their woes). When they are back, we can send the SA citizens back and give their jobs to our brothers who agreed to return.
Re: Another Approach To The South African Attacks By Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu by juman(m): 9:45am On Apr 29, 2015
There are so many illegal immigrants in south africa because african leaders are so so bad leaders.

African leaders are performing very poorly that is why many africans are running to south africa. Africa leaders should brace up and deliver good governance to their people and their people would be proud of them.

Imaging nigeria has not up to 4 000 megawatts of electricity for 180 million people.

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Re: Another Approach To The South African Attacks By Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu by intergral(m): 9:48am On Apr 29, 2015
Redoil:
A clown from toronto is plagarising another person write up. Tinubu the cheerleader of the terrorist party thanks for bringing the gurls back and i hope none is pregnant.
To know more about APC cheack my signature
yeah for sure its only redoil you have in your head... So if APC wants to better Nigeria its a bad thing for? Are you an enemy of the country? Are you trying to commit treason? Do you want jonathan and his bunch of thieves to continue destroying this country? Do you want you children to suffer? This is how you fail exams in school, you write rubbish and still come out to blame the lecturer for giving you "F".... You better empty the red oil in your brain so that you can start thinking like a human being... Nkitta!
Re: Another Approach To The South African Attacks By Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu by buJu234: 9:58am On Apr 29, 2015
South Africa... the Jagaban has just given u an indirect warning...

so make una behave... grin grin grin

if not....

try and ask PDP wat happened to them...
Re: Another Approach To The South African Attacks By Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu by Nobody: 10:00am On Apr 29, 2015
Tinubu shutup, u re saying that the Nigerian govt should Liase with Zuma i.e d SA govt, that they shudnt hv recalled, d commissioner. How do they Liase with the SA govt when the present SA govt said they won't meet with this present administration until d handover. For them to hv said that they re disrespecting the seat of d Presidency no matter who d person is, so what if d Nigerians in SA don't have dat time left till they hand over, so do u mean they shud be allowed to suffer. What Gej did was right. Full stop.
Re: Another Approach To The South African Attacks By Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu by OrlandoOwoh(m): 10:01am On Apr 29, 2015
Mopolchi:
If Nigerian government does not protect SAs working in mtn, shoprite, game, stanbic bank and allow SAs be killed, won't the SA government not complain? If after the complaint fell on deaf ears, won't the SA government not do the same as the Nigerian government? The recalling is a sign of disapproval for the nonchalance of the SA government. Mark you, when Buhari assumes office, it will be even worse to the SA government. As for our people there, they should find a way out of that place. There is nothing viable there unless drugs selling, prostitution and raping and killing of foreigners (which for them are the cause of their woes). When they are back, we can send the SA citizens back and give their jobs to our brothers who agreed to return.
Dumb! Why did you edit my post? It is silly for you to think that Nigerians would take up, working and be operating in Shoprite, MTN, Stanbic IBTC, etc. You think the physical structures of these companies are the only things that are to the companies?
Re: Another Approach To The South African Attacks By Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu by Fratello(m): 10:01am On Apr 29, 2015
............. Mister Tinubu, (The Bourdilon Tiger) wrote all these? cry
I'm Astonished sad
Re: Another Approach To The South African Attacks By Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu by Mopolchi: 10:04am On Apr 29, 2015
OrlandoOwoh:

Dumb to me and my family! Why did you edit my post? It is silly for me not to think that Nigerians would take up, working and be operating in Shoprite, MTN, Stanbic IBTC, etc. You think the physical structures of these companies are the only things that are to the companies?
Thanks for making me to be aware of the fact you stated. I am glad you said so.
Re: Another Approach To The South African Attacks By Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu by NCOIM(m): 10:12am On Apr 29, 2015
What's that Old idiotic drug baron ranting about
Abeg,,,shuttle man,,,give me my change..
Re: Another Approach To The South African Attacks By Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu by Btoyob(m): 10:26am On Apr 29, 2015
My eye glass plssssssssss!!!
Re: Another Approach To The South African Attacks By Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu by Nobody: 10:27am On Apr 29, 2015
Hindsight is always 20/20 maraflocka
Re: Another Approach To The South African Attacks By Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu by dantewest: 10:46am On Apr 29, 2015
Tinubu is now a blogger. Linda Ikeji should take note.
Re: Another Approach To The South African Attacks By Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu by bastian5050(m): 10:55am On Apr 29, 2015
illiad1:
By Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu

THE destructive attacks in South Africa on Nigerians and other sub-Saharan Africans are tragic and mindlessly wrong. The assaults sorely bruise the objective of inter-African harmony. They also put an eraser to the idyll of progress and domestic tranquility many people saw when gazing at South Africa.
The xenophobia is actually a lethal show of misdirected anger. The attacks point to deep, underlying ruptures within the South African political economy that actually have little to do with the presence of Nigerian or other Black Africans in that nation. Nigerians have become scapegoats in a fundamentally domestic struggle.
The Black populace is roiling because their economic plight has worsened since the end of apartheid. If prosperity had come to them, they would not have come to this. The political and economic accommodation between the traditionally White-controlled economic superstructure and the post-Mandela Black political elite is under challenge.
This model of governance has failed to make adequate provision for the bulk of the Black population. Due to his unique status, Mandela was able to give the Black population succour and hope while counseling them patience.

That great man is no longer there. Gone with him is the succour he gave and apparently the patience of the people. South Africans thus lashed out in frustration. They attacked Nigerians and other Africans not so much because our people were the cause of their woes.
They attacked our people because they could do so much easier than they could attack the actual sources of their ire and economic predicament. It is easier to destroy the wares of the local shopkeeper than to change the political economy.
The former merely requires an eruption of anger; the latter requires sustained political organization, vision and dedication. Thus, although they want political economic reform, all they did was to attack non-South Africans who provided goods and services to them at the neighborhood level.

While the government of South Africa may be questioned about its continued adherence to a political economic model that appears to have exceeded its best-use date, it is completely wrong to say the South African government had even a hand in instigating the unrest.
Thus, recalling the Nigerian High Commissioner is inappropriate and counterproductive. Instead of pulling the diplomat, Nigeria should name a high-level special envoy to visit the nation and engage directly with President Zuma. Nigeria should also send an Interagency Coordinated Action Team (ICAT) to South Africa to complement enhance efforts to provide consular services, liaison with police and security and ensure that affected Nigerians receive proper restitution. We should also talk to major South Africa businesses resident in Nigeria. It would help douse tensions and ill will here if they announced a plan to contribute to the restitution of affected Nigerians.
No recall: Some observers have questioned the swiftness and efficiency of the South African government’s response to the mayhem. Such is their right to do so. However, the South African government did not cause the problem. They had no reason for it. To blame the government is to increase tension and confusion, not douse them.

Recall of an envoy is usually prompted by an adverse act by the host government itself. It is not good practice to recall a High Commissioner for a tragedy the host government could not have prevented and one for which its appears to be working in good faith to end.
The recent social upheaval should be likened more to a natural disaster as the government had no proximate control over its eruption. To recall our High Commissioner might satisfy our sense of outrage; it would do little else, however.
The move implicitly signals to the South African government that we blame it for causing the outburst or for being negligent in the aftermath. Such a move would make it harder to encourage the South African government to act as we would like toward affected Nigerians.
The move we diminish our presence is the more we diminish the daily pressure on the government in Pretoria. The move we diminish the pressure is the less we can positively influence that government’s action. Pulling our envoy decreases not increases our diplomatic leverage in this particular circumstance.

Also, much of the world and many Nigerians in South Africa will perceive the move negatively; they will think we are abandoning our citizens during the height of their travail.  This might demoralize them to a material degree.
The absence of the High Commissioner for an appreciable period of time will undermine the efficacy of our diplomatic mission at the moment when that mission should be doing its utmost for that segment of our Diaspora in South Africa.
Special envoy: A more constructive step would be to designate a presidential special envoy to liaise directly with President Zuma and appropriate cabinet-level officials in South Africa. The official should be a well known statesman preferably with a prior relationship with President Zuma. A former head of state or someone like former Commonwealth Secretary Anyaoku would be ideal for the position. This step would underscore Nigeria’s concerns for its citizens abroad. It would also signal to the South Africans that this episode cannot simply be left to fade into memory as has happened in the past. The envoy would press to ensure that adequate security is availed the Nigerian community to prevent further incidents this time of tension. The Envoy would also explore ways the Nigerian community can be better integrated and accepted in South Africa. Most importantly, he will press the South African government to improve its ability to ensure such things do not repeat themselves on such a large scale.

Adequate security
ICAT: Complementing the efforts of the special envoy would be a working level Inter-Agency Coordinating Emergency Team (ICAT). The ICAT would be comprised of police and other security officers who would liaise with South African counterparts at the operational level to ensure adequate security for the Nigerian community and that the authors of violence will be apprehended.
The team would also have a strong consular component. Nigeria should use this as an opportunity to reach out to the Nigerian community in South Africa to get a better idea of its numerical dimensions and the locations where that community is most concentrated.
A warden or communication system should be established within the community so that people can be quickly apprised of emergency situations or major events. A small legal team with experience in comparative criminal and civil law should be part of the team. On one hand, the lawyers would check to make sure those arrested are to be prosecuted. The lawyers should also investigate the proposals for restitution the South African government will make for affected Nigerians.

South African businesses in Nigeria: To douse tensions here and show goodwill, major firms in the South African business community here should be encouraged to develop a fund to restitute affected Nigerians. This fund should be contributed to the Nigerian government.
Conclusion: In such a circumstances, our policy approach should not be determined by anger. Our policy should be founded on a wise, dispassionate assessment of how to best protect our countrymen when they are imperiled. Recalling our top envoy does nothing to protect them. We must do better and more than just express anger.
The steps outlined above – Special Envoy, ICAT and South African Business Restitution Fund – are practical actions that can actually help our people and the South African government. Nigeria and South Africa are the two major sub-Saharan African economies.

We should attempt to work cooperatively to the extent possible, even in tense times. This show of cooperation and assistance serves our longer-term strategic interests. We should extend our hand of cooperation because that is in the best interests of our people in South Africa. If the South Africans rebuff these or similar overtures, then we can examine the need to call home our High Commissioner. However, recall should have been the last resort not the first one.


http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/04/another-approach-to-the-south-african-attacks-by-asiwaju-bola-ahmed-tinubu/
in as much I don't Like this man I totally agree with the 3 points raised
. its not too late for our govt to look into this points .

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