I AM BEGINING TO GET SOME THINGS VERY CLEARED NOW

PLEASE I NEED ANSWERS OR I WILL STOP BELIEVING IN THE SO CALLED MIRACLE

oluwdashmi:


@ poster:
My ans goes thus: Did the president tell you he believes in miracles? Does he believe in the same God or religion as the pastors'? Without that, miracles can't work!

Has he told you he will die in office or even immediately after his presidential assignment? What if he believes in medical/physical power more than the spiritual?

Yes, he is not a christian and it is the same GOD. But that is not the issue but his faith matters most. Your miracle is backed by your faith.

Believing in miracles or not does not stop miracles from happening, it is you who need a changed situation not God. Neither does believing in God stops God from being who he is, he remains the same.

Our God is not a God of FORCE, he is a God of CHOICE.

Stay blessed.

For all those who think pastors should go to beggers and heal them: Do you go to the hospital when you are sick or the doctor comes running after you or does your employer comes knocking at your door or you go seeking for the job?

Titiw4real:

does he request any miracle from any pastor? what is your own? if u want to belive belived and if u dnt stay away.dnt blame any pastor if not God will fire your mth.

Easypizzy:

@oluwdashmi , you are right. Jesus himself never run around following sick people in order to heal them, the sick came to Jesus. Through their faith they were healed.

@poster You are just confused. Do you believe in Jesus?
Do you really beleive in miracles? But you need to first believe in the miracle worker!

banom:

When Jesus was on earth, he was going about doing good, then what stops these pastors from going about doing good ? Pastor Adeboye shouldn't have just prophesied to Yaradua about his health, he should have prayed for him,

How come all these miracles they claim they did dont have any third party concrete prove ?
When JESUS CHRIST did all his miracles they all had concrete preoves, he even told one to go and show him self to the people and tell them what the Lord has done for them, his miracles were open and were giving as a sign to prove he was the son of almighty God, no one debated, challenged or even argued if miracle did take place or not, they were even marveled at his miraculous works, How come people now argue the authencity of the miracles these pastors claim they did ? Is truth not suppose to be very obvious ?

The wast most single fatal mistake you will ever make in this century is to allow a fellow african man to brainwash.

PurestBoy:

What if your presido is eventually healed by the juju power you claimed the pastors have, is that when you will be convinced that they are real? Just think deep before your next post

When Jesus was on earth, he was going about doing good, then what stops these pastors  from going about doing good ? Pastor Adeboye shouldn't have  just prophesied to Yaradua about his health, he should have prayed for him,

How come all these miracles they claim they did dont have any third party concrete prove ?
When JESUS CHRIST did all his miracles they all had concrete preoves, he even told one to go and show him self to the people and tell them what the Lord has done for them, his miracles were open and were giving as a sign to prove he was the son of almighty God, no one debated, challenged or even argued if miracle did take place or not, they were even marveled at his miraculous works, How come people now argue the authencity of the miracles these pastors claim they did ? Is truth not suppose to be very obvious ?

The wast most single fatal mistake you will ever make in this century is to allow a fellow african man to brainwash you.

hello banom:

1. you haven't answered my questions, instead you quoted.
2. from the first paragraph, Jesus was doing good during anywhere he went. Ok, the only good thing you want to hear now is that Yara'dua has been prayed for abi? (not that you yourself have been healed of your confusion and ignorance)

Go on your kneels and pray for him afterall you have the same brain, mouth, divine right, connection and human nature like all the pastors and there is a Yoruba adage that says "a man sees a snake but a woman kills it, what matters most is that the snake is killed."

If you say all the miracles they perform do not have third parties, I will appoint you to move from one revival to the other, special prog to the other (forget about your prob, purpose of existence, family and job) and be the third party or challenge the miracles. Secondly, you don't know the meaning of miracles, miracles are things that happen beyond human imaginations. The moment you have an ans to a miracle, then it is no miracle but an expectation.

I am not a miracle freak anyway but I don't judge them cos I believe nothing is impossible. If a herbalist can cure a disease or prob with ordinary incantations, then my God, the creator of the herbalists and his incantation can do mysteries cos he himself is a MYSTERY .

oluwdashmi:

hello banom:

1. you haven't answered my questions, instead you quoted.
2. from the first paragraph, Jesus was doing good during anywhere he went. Ok, the only good thing you want to hear now is that Yara'dua has been prayed for abi? (not that you yourself have been healed of your confusion and ignorance)

Go on your kneels and pray for him afterall you have the same brain, mouth, divine right, connection and human nature like all the pastors and there is a Yoruba adage that says "a man sees a snake but a woman kills it, what matters most is that the snake is killed."

If you say all the miracles they perform do not have third parties, I will appoint you to move from one revival to the other, special prog to the other (forget about your prob, purpose of existence, family and job) and be the third party or challenge the miracles. Secondly, you don't know the meaning of miracles, miracles are things that happen beyond human imaginations. The moment you have an ans to a miracle, then it is no miracle but an expectation.

I am not a miracle freak anyway but I don't judge them cos I believe nothing is impossible. If a herbalist can cure a disease or prob with ordinary incantations, then my God, the creator of the herbalists and his incantation can do miseries cos he himself is a MISERY .

oluwdashmi:


@ poster:
My ans goes thus: Did the president tell you he believes in miracles? Does he believe in the same God or religion as the pastors'? Without that, miracles can't work!

Has he told you he will die in office or even immediately after his presidential assignment? What if he believes in medical/physical power more than the spiritual?

Yes, he is not a christian and it is the same GOD. But that is not the issue but his faith matters most. Your miracle is backed by your faith.

Believing in miracles or not does not stop miracles from happening, it is you who need a changed situation not God. Neither does believing in God stops God from being who he is, he remains the same.

Our God is not a God of FORCE, he is a God of CHOICE.
Stay blessed.

For all those who think pastors should go to beggers and heal them: Do you go to the hospital when you are sick or the doctor comes running after you or does your employer comes knocking at your door or you go seeking for the job?

Just wait while Professor Banon tells you how wrong you are cos he's a smart guy

~smurf:

It is only those that want to be healed that will be healed, they must confess and forsake their sins first also.

Matt 15:22-28

22 And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou Son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil.

23 But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us.

24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

25 Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me.

26 But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs.

27 And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table.

28 Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is thy faith: be it unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour.
KJV

~smurf:

It is only those that want to be healed that will be healed, they must confess and forsake their sins first also.

stonedlive:

Quote from: ~smurf on Yesterday at 04:50:18 PM
It is only those that want to be healed that will be healed, they must confess and forsake their sins first also.



but Peter healed the cripple without asking him to confess or forsake his sins

5) And the man responded, expecting to receive some coins from them. – He expected money, not a healing.
6) But instead, Peter said, "I do not have any money [i.e., silver or gold], but I will give you what I do have. In the name of Jesus from Nazareth [i.e., by His authority], get up and walk." – If he could walk, he could provide his own living.
7) And Peter took him by his right hand and lifted him up. Immediately the man's feet and ankles became strong [enough to walk on]



@bawomolo

so am i to assume that you will be leading a delegation soon to aso rock to take yaradua by the hand and command healing upon his body, oh my bad , dont tell me , iam misunderstanding ur point

bawomolo:

have i ever claimed to have superpowers?

niyidrums:

Thanks for this post. I will love to ask this question and it goes to the person that posted this.
Is it a doctor that go and see a patient or the patient goes for attention from the doctor?

Okija_juju:

@ Niyidrums

Truly an intelligent question

But you see the difference is that if doctors could heal without actually seeing the patient then your question would suffice in this case but they cant.

Now Pastors claim to have the ability to heal without contact or diagonisis of the ailment. The bible has said that whatsoever they ask in the name of Jesus they would get. The bible has also said they can do anything through christ. They have driven 300miles in a car that had no gas in it, they have healed people just by some staff (actually a stick) they prayed for, they have prophesied the victory of Obama _{(who by the way is a muslim)}, so we are just wondering why its so difficult for them to heal the president. Remember that we have already lost a Governor, we dont want to loose our president.