It is he who has created man from
WATER
-- Sura 25:54
And God has created EVERY LIVING CREATURES FROM WATER.
-- Sura 24:45
We created man from SOUNDING CLAY ,
from mud moulded into shape.
-- Sura 15:26
Amongst his signs is this,
that he created you from DUST.
-- Sura 30:20
Proclaim!
In the name of thy Lord and
Cherisher, who created -
created man, out of a mere CLOT OF
CONGEALED BLOOD -- Sura 96:1-2

Water,clot of blood,sounding clay, dust. Which is correct?

None

God is not the author of confusion.

Dsaintprodigy:
None

Allah got it all wrong?

kingk:
God is not the author of confusion.

in the quranic verses the op qoute, it proved allah is the author of confusion.

malvisguy212:
in the quranic verses the op qoute, it proved allah is the author of confusion.

Now I wouldn't want to ask "who wrote the quran?".......cos from bible pespective, our God the creator is not the author of confusion

Maybe he used all those ingredients

kingk:


Now I wouldn't want to ask "who wrote the quran?".......cos from bible pespective, our God the creator is not the author of confusion

according to muslims, Allah wrote it, but why will allah say a word in one verse and later change what he say?

Surah 6:115: “The word of your Lord
is complete, in truth and justice.
NOTHING SHALL ABROGATE HIS WORD .
He is the Hearer, the
Omniscient.”

However, note the contradiction in Surah 2:106:

“Whatever verse we shall abrogate,
or cause (thee) TO FORGET , WE WILL BRING A BETTER ONE THAN IT, OR ONE LIKE UNTO IT o. Dost thou not know that
God is almighty?” (Sale)

Plainly writen, allah is not steady in his word.

AlfaSeltzer:
Maybe he used all those ingredients

were did he got the clot of blood from?

malvisguy212:
according to muslims, Allah wrote it, but why will allah say a word in one verse and later change what he say?

Surah 6:115: “The word of your Lord
is complete, in truth and justice.
NOTHING SHALL ABROGATE HIS WORD .
He is the Hearer, the
Omniscient.”

However, note the contradiction in Surah 2:106:

“Whatever verse we shall abrogate,
or cause (thee) TO FORGET , WE WILL BRING A BETTER ONE THAN IT, OR ONE LIKE UNTO IT o. Dost thou not know that
God is almighty?” (Sale)

Plainly writen, allah is not steady in his word.

Over the years, I've learnt not to be contencious about religion.......@ bolded^^^^^

malvisguy212:
Allah got it all wrong?

I want to know, is Allah an English word or Arabic? If it's Arabic, why then do muslims used it while speaking English instead of just saying God? Could it be that Allah is not the same as God?

kingk:


Over the years, I've learnt not to be contencious about religion.......@ bolded^^^^^

are you afraid or what? Even in Christianity we are advice to ask question and be fully convinced, Jesus did not want us to accepts him in blind faith, john even advice us to test every spirit.

If anyone should believe in Jesus as the son of God that should be john the baptist, YET john send his disciples to confirmed if Jesus is the christ. But Jesus did not condemned him, instead He performed miracle in the present of john disciples and command them to tell john what they saw.

malvisguy212:
Allah got it all wrong?

I want to know, is Allah an English word or Arabic? If its Arabic, why then do muslims used it while speaking English instead of just saying God? E.g. You could've just said God Allah got it wrong? since you are using English as a mode of communication not Arabic. Could it be that Allah and God are two different beings?

Presidency25:


I want to know, is Allah an English word or Arabic? If it's Arabic, why then do muslims used it while speaking English instead of just saying God? Could it be that Allah is not the same as God?

Allah and the God of the bible are not the same, deep inside them they know Allah is not God in the bible that why even when the speak English but when it reach the time to pronounced God they chose to say Allah instead.

Read here, Allah exist in pre-Islamic era
http://www.balaams-ass.com/alhaj/page10.htm

And the quran and hadith proved that Islam way of worship is the same as pagan worship there gods during the pre-Islamic era.

Where are the muslims? Are they still sleeping?

malvisguy212:
are you afraid or what? Even in Christianity we are advice to ask question and be fully convinced, Jesus did not want us to accepts him in blind faith, john even advice us to test every spirit.

If anyone should believe in Jesus as the son of God that should be john the baptist, YET john send his disciples to confirmed if Jesus is the christ. But Jesus did not condemned him, instead He performed miracle in the present of john disciples and command them to tell john what they saw.

Afraid of what?..........we are human being with body working with blood,bone, flesh and water, We can't comprehend the full mystry of our existence. So, what's the point to argue there?

kingk:



Afraid of what?..........we are human being with body working with blood,bone, flesh and water, We can't comprehend the full mystry of our existence. So, what's the point to argue there?

I understand your points very well. But the book of Romans say:

Romans 10:14-21
14 How, then, can they call on the one
they have not believed in? And how can
they believe in the one of whom they
have not heard? And how can they hear
without someone preaching to them? 15
And how can anyone preach unless they
are sent? As it is written: “How beautiful
are the feet of those who bring good
news!”[ g]
16 But not all the Israelites accepted the
good news. For Isaiah says, “Lord, who
has believed our message?”[ h] 17
Consequently, faith comes from hearing
the message, and the message is heard
through the word about Christ. 18 But I
ask: Did they not hear? Of course they
did:
“Their voice has gone out into all the
earth,
their words to the ends of the world.”[i]
19 Again I ask: Did Israel not
understand? First, Moses says,
“I will make you envious by those who
are not a nation;
I will make you angry by a nation that
has no understanding.”[ j]
20 And Isaiah boldly says,
“I was found by those who did not seek
me;
I revealed myself to those who did not
ask for me.”[ k]
21 But concerning Israel he says,
“All day long I have held out my hands
to a disobedient and obstinate people.”[l]

malvisguy212:
were did he got the clot of blood from?

he made it

malvisguy212:
I understand your points very well. But the book of Romans say:

Romans 10:14-21
14 How, then, can they call on the one
they have not believed in? And how can
they believe in the one of whom they
have not heard? And how can they hear
without someone preaching to them? 15
And how can anyone preach unless they
are sent? As it is written: “How beautiful
are the feet of those who bring good
news!”[ g]
16 But not all the Israelites accepted the
good news. For Isaiah says, “Lord, who
has believed our message?”[ h] 17
Consequently, faith comes from hearing
the message, and the message is heard
through the word about Christ. 18 But I
ask: Did they not hear? Of course they
did:
“Their voice has gone out into all the
earth,
their words to the ends of the world.”[i]
19 Again I ask: Did Israel not
understand? First, Moses says,
“I will make you envious by those who
are not a nation;
I will make you angry by a nation that
has no understanding.”[ j]
20 And Isaiah boldly says,
“I was found by those who did not seek
me;
I revealed myself to those who did not
ask for me.”[ k]
21 But concerning Israel he says,
“All day long I have held out my hands
to a disobedient and obstinate people.”[l]

Sorry bro, these quote(s) ^^^^ is not in line with the context. however, like I previously said "I don't like to be contencious" I prefare leaving a word on conviction to people and God will do the rest.

kingk:


Sorry bro, these quote(s) ^^^^ is not in line with the context. however, like I previously said "I don't like to be contencious" I prefare leaving a word on conviction to people and God will do the rest.

how can they hear without a preacher? Faith come by hearing the word through christ.

When you want to ask question concerning Islam, don't ask something that is not in the quran or hadith and don't let your question be insultive . Don't ask a question that will lead to insult, they may see it as insult, but as long as your question is in the quran, then you are not far from the truth. I grew up in a muslims community and I have a muslims barground infacte my father name is Ahmed now a christian, soo when I ask a question about Islam, I do not ask as a stranger.

AlfaSeltzer:


he made it

both the bible and the quran say the heaven and earth was the first God created and man was the last, the bible say man was created from dust, dust exist from the beginning but clot? No. Beside we are talking about procreation.

malvisguy212:
how can they hear without a preacher? Faith come by hearing the word through christ.

When you want to ask question concerning Islam, don't ask something that is not in the quran or hadith and don't let your question be insultive . Don't ask a question that will lead to insult, they may see it as insult, but as long as your question is in the quran, then you are not far from the truth. I grew up in a muslims community and I have a muslims barground infacte my father name is Ahmed now a christian, soo when I ask a question about Islam, I do not ask as a stranger.

Sorry bro....a question pls. Will a muslem make heaven?

Moreover, who is jesus?

kingk:


Sorry bro....a question pls. Will a muslem make heaven?

Jesus say He is the way and truth NO ONE come to the father except through Him. The muslims claimed they believe in Jesus but satan also believe in Jesus. You must aknowleged him as your Lord and personal saviour.

The believers shall not be judge, they will go direct to heaven.but the unbelievers will be judge According to there Work,in first peter chapter 4, peter gave a good example of how difficult sinner can be Spear in the hand of God, he assume the righteous are judge.

1peter 4:17-18.
17 For it is time for judgment to begin with God’s household;
and if it begins with us, what will the
outcome be for those who do not obey
the gospel of God? 18 And,
“If it is hard for the righteous to be
saved,
what will become of the ungodly and the
sinner?”[ a]
1

kingk:
God is not the author of confusion.

But islamic allah is

malvisguy212:
Where are the muslims? Are they still sleeping?

They dont know how to use al taqiyyah to explain this... i have asked this question before one muslim then said that islamic allah used water clay and blood together, but no where does moahmmed say this ..
Muslims try so much to make sense of mohammeds mistakes.

continue recycling already refuted brainless topics .hope no Muslim would even answer it mtsheww

malvisguy212:
Jesus say He is the way and truth NO ONE come to the father except through Him. The muslims claimed they believe in Jesus but satan also believe in Jesus. You must aknowleged him as your Lord and personal saviour.

The believers shall not be judge, they will go direct to heaven.but the unbelievers will be judge According to there Work,in first peter chapter 4, peter gave a good example of how difficult sinner can be Spear in the hand of God, he assume the righteous are judge.

1peter 4:17-18.
17 For it is time for judgment to begin with God’s household;
and if it begins with us, what will the
outcome be for those who do not obey
the gospel of God? 18 And,
“If it is hard for the righteous to be
saved,
what will become of the ungodly and the
sinner?”[ a]
1

good reply, now WHO IS JESUS?

parisbookaddict:


But islamic allah is

parisbookaddict:

They dont know how to use al taqiyyah to explain this... i have asked this question before one muslim then said that islamic allah used water clay and blood together, but no where does moahmmed say this ..
Muslims try so much to make sense of mohammeds mistakes.

Pls take it easy.

kingk:

good reply, now WHO IS JESUS?

Jesus is a man whom the spirit of God himself dwell upon.meaning He has two nature, God and human.

malvisguy212:
both the bible and the quran say the heaven and earth was the first God created and man was the last, the bible say man was created from dust, dust exist from the beginning but clot? No. Beside we are talking about procreation.

or maybe he used his own blood

malvisguy212:
Jesus is a man whom the spirit of God himself dwell upon.meaning He has two nature, God and human.

. Good, this is your own definition...........but who did jesus say he is?...................sorry for these questions though I want us to draw a point today

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