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Re: CBN Has No Option But To Devalue The Naira – S&P by Nobody: 7:24pm On Jul 16, 2015
amakabaybee:


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ami nwanyi oma
Re: CBN Has No Option But To Devalue The Naira – S&P by atlwireles: 7:33pm On Jul 16, 2015
bushdoc9919:
Truth!

Look...Nigerians....we have no option.

All these years when we should have gotten off oil...we spent on over-importation of things we could manufacture.

The era of oil imports is over. Nigerians....please kindly tell your governors and PMB to develop our industries.

And by the way....if transformation worked....we would not have been here! grin

Develop industries with what?

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Re: CBN Has No Option But To Devalue The Naira – S&P by caugann(m): 7:35pm On Jul 16, 2015
Taylor86:


wen i talk say sugar still dey some nigerians 4 brain una go say na lie

my brother God bless u


go open ministry

u see and envisage beyond T.B Joshua


True talk......wahala dey!
Re: CBN Has No Option But To Devalue The Naira – S&P by Bovis(m): 7:37pm On Jul 16, 2015
The so called foreign investors are only looking for the opportunity to buy Naira very cheap, thereby exploiting our vulnerable economy.

No be by force to devalue. The CBN has stated several times that any genuine foreign investor can buy and sell Naira at the official CBN rate.

It's in our best interest not to devalue the Naira any further.

What we're witnessing in The Black market is pure speculation. The parallel market will stabilise with time .

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Re: CBN Has No Option But To Devalue The Naira – S&P by Nobody: 7:39pm On Jul 16, 2015
socialmediaman:
[s]Read Carefully and Understand why all this is happening

Exchange rate doesn't just get devalued because of what happened today, it is as a result of what happened yesterday. Buhari's government hasn't done anything that warrants devaluation of our currency. Observe that the report said the devaluation has been long overdue, they were probably waiting for GEJ to win the election before they told us the truth about how bad things had become, hope you didn't forget when GEJ told workers on May Day to prepare for hard times.

During the Global Economic crisis of 2008-2009, Yar'Adua had saved up to $62 billion dollars from the $43 billion OBJ left in the Foreign reserve before leaving office, the CBN used some of this to cushion the effects of the economic crunch...

Fast forward to the time of GEJ, Nigeria started witnessing oil boom again, GEJ couldn't save anything in the foreign reserve, he rather depleted it to an all time low of $29 billion dollars, he could not even invest the money he didn't save into the economy, not even after causing hardship on Nigerians after increasing the price of petrol, remember it was this same period that he started wasting 2 trillion naira on subsidy thieves, it was all Jamboree, the most annoying part was that out of all these trillions, he could only afford to spend only N15 billion naira on Youwin project to create few jobs for the very youths who stood by him all through his jamboree government, but he was paying over 2 trillion to cabals who even abandoned him after he lost election.

Even with the oil price crumble, almost empty Federation account and only $29 billion in foreign reserve, Buhari was able to save $700 million in just 1 month to shore up our foreign reserve as a matter of urgency so that we won't be faced with hardship with the rising dollar, oil price fall and inflation.

Let's call a spade a spade, we are the ones who will suffer the financial crisis created by GEJ, we must support Buhari to recover all our money from GEJ and his cronies, they didn't steal money for us, thy stole for themselves and their families while we fight on their behalf, we must ask them to return our money. Leave only those who are being paid to support them them to do thier jobs, do not join them, let's all work together and put them to shame![/s]

Very lame analysis. Do you sometimes think there are no educated people on nairaland? Or are you like actually dumb or doing this on purpose?? Please apply to Sahara Reporters for a job. That should be your true calling. Stop wasting your talents here mate.

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Re: CBN Has No Option But To Devalue The Naira – S&P by Nobody: 7:40pm On Jul 16, 2015
#Double post#
Re: CBN Has No Option But To Devalue The Naira – S&P by Nobody: 7:40pm On Jul 16, 2015
atlwireles:


Develop industries with what?

At which point I refer to the examples of South Korea and Japan and even China and Singapore.

Raise education standards, invest heavily in industry, spend less on vanity projects....and stop importing things you can make.

I could summarize it as Living as if you have no resources.

APC better pass the books, and forget about oil. Because...the era of high oil price is over. America is now nearly a net producer of oil.

Dutch diseased nations don't do well.

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Re: CBN Has No Option But To Devalue The Naira – S&P by DMerciful(m): 7:44pm On Jul 16, 2015
So in your wisdom, the whole problem of Nigeria started with GEJ? GEJ also started bokoharam,right? So in your opinion Nigeria should survive on Niger Delta oil only as a nation.......parasites!
socialmediaman:
Read Carefully and Understand why all this is happening

Exchange rate doesn't just get devalued because of what happened today, it is as a result of what happened yesterday. Buhari's government hasn't done anything that warrants devaluation of our currency. Observe that the report said the devaluation has been long overdue, they were probably waiting for GEJ to win the election before they told us the truth about how bad things had become, hope you didn't forget when GEJ told workers on May Day to prepare for hard times.

During the Global Economic crisis of 2008-2009, Yar'Adua had saved up to $62 billion dollars from the $43 billion OBJ left in the Foreign reserve before leaving office, the CBN used some of this to cushion the effects of the economic crunch...

Fast forward to the time of GEJ, Nigeria started witnessing oil boom again, GEJ couldn't save anything in the foreign reserve, he rather depleted it to an all time low of $29 billion dollars, he could not even invest the money he didn't save into the economy, not even after causing hardship on Nigerians after increasing the price of petrol, remember it was this same period that he started wasting 2 trillion naira on subsidy thieves, it was all Jamboree, the most annoying part was that out of all these trillions, he could only afford to spend only N15 billion naira on Youwin project to create few jobs for the very youths who stood by him all through his jamboree government, but he was paying over 2 trillion to cabals who even abandoned him after he lost election.

Even with the oil price crumble, almost empty Federation account and only $29 billion in foreign reserve, Buhari was able to save $700 million in just 1 month to shore up our foreign reserve as a matter of urgency so that we won't be faced with hardship with the rising dollar, oil price fall and inflation.

Let's call a spade a spade, we are the ones who will suffer the financial crisis created by GEJ, we must support Buhari to recover all our money from GEJ and his cronies, they didn't steal money for us, thy stole for themselves and their families while we fight on their behalf, we must ask them to return our money. Leave only those who are being paid to support them them to do thier jobs, do not join them, let's all work together and put them to shame!

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Re: CBN Has No Option But To Devalue The Naira – S&P by omooba969(m): 7:47pm On Jul 16, 2015
empireSOMH:
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BABA ONE CHANCE! BUHARI GIVES US #1 TO $1 AS PROMISED
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Ppl like u shouldn't be posting comments wit regards to dis kind of issue, u shud be in romance or culture section. cool

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Re: CBN Has No Option But To Devalue The Naira – S&P by DMerciful(m): 7:50pm On Jul 16, 2015
With resources in their state like Ghana, Togo, Ivory Coast. Some states in Nigeria are as big as these countries. This dependence on ND oil is painful.[quote author=atlwireles post=35940971]

Develop industries with what?[/quot

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Re: CBN Has No Option But To Devalue The Naira – S&P by aribs(m): 7:55pm On Jul 16, 2015
May the GOOD LORD bless you for this analysis . Instead of people to seek knowledge and understanding from those who know, they go on shouting without putting things into proper context. Your insight is profound. I have been advocating for this to be done without delay for months.
socialmediaman:
Read Carefully and Understand why all this is happening
Exchange rate doesn't just get devalued because of what happened today, it is as a result of what happened yesterday. Buhari's government hasn't done anything that warrants devaluation of our currency. Observe that the report said the devaluation has been long overdue, they were probably waiting for GEJ to win the election before they told us the truth about how bad things had become, hope you didn't forget when GEJ told workers on May Day to prepare for hard times.

During the Global Economic crisis of 2008-2009, Yar'Adua had saved up to $62 billion dollars from the $43 billion OBJ left in the Foreign reserve before leaving office, the CBN used some of this to cushion the effects of the economic crunch...

Fast forward to the time of GEJ, Nigeria started witnessing oil boom again, GEJ couldn't save anything in the foreign reserve, he rather depleted it to an all time low of $29 billion dollars, he could not even invest the money he didn't save into the economy, not even after causing hardship on Nigerians after increasing the price of petrol, remember it was this same period that he started wasting 2 trillion naira on subsidy thieves, apart from that his government started granting fraudulent import waivers that caused Nigeria a loss of over $20 billion dollars, not to mention that his government through the NNPC mismanaged at least N3.8 trillion of Nigeria's revenue, it was all Jamboree. The most annoying part was that out of all these trillions, he could only afford to spend only N15 billion naira on Youwin project to create few jobs for the very youths who stood by him all through his jamboree government, but he was paying over 2 trillion to cabals who even abandoned him after he lost election.

Even with the oil price crumble, almost empty Federation account and only $29 billion in foreign reserve, Buhari was able to save $700 million in just 1 month to shore up our foreign reserve as a matter of urgency so that we won't be faced with hardship with the rising dollar, oil price fall and inflation.

Let's call a spade a spade, we are the ones who will suffer the financial crisis created by GEJ, we must support Buhari to recover all our money from GEJ and his cronies, they didn't steal money for us, thy stole for themselves and their families while we fight on their behalf, we must ask them to return our money. Leave only those who are being paid to support them them to do thier jobs, do not join them, let's all work together and put them to shame!

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Re: CBN Has No Option But To Devalue The Naira – S&P by Nobody: 8:01pm On Jul 16, 2015
why won't dollar rate be higher than naira when Politicians loot and stash billions of public funds overseas, even private individuals now do same (wedding na for overseas, who wan born na for overseas, e.t.c). Nigerians ask yourselves this question, how many foriegners done travel come Nigeria come stash money?? and the last time I checked so much Money left this country under GEJ administration. PMB is cleaning Jonathan's mess

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Re: CBN Has No Option But To Devalue The Naira – S&P by Utchman1: 8:05pm On Jul 16, 2015
ChinoJeff:
Q1... Can this be the changes we have been expecting?

Q2... Does it mean that the APC were juz clamouring change as a their slogan witout proper plans to effect it?

Q3... Can Nigeria maintain her integrity as Africa's no.1 economy under this regime?

God help Nigeria as I dont kno who to call clueless president now between Buhari and Goodluck.

So you think Buhari's few days in office I'd what had weakened the Naira this much? No

Saudi Arabia is not going through this because they have over $800 bn in foreign reserve.

Norway also has a lot in reserves.

Russia is feeling the effect of the oil fall because of EU sanctions.

Obasanjo built our reserves to $35 bn from deficit and then Yaradua consolidated to $67 bn.

GEJ enjoyed 6 years of oil boom and depleted our reserves to $29 bn.

And here you are blaming Buhari at a time of oil fall in less than two months if his four years tenure.

Please learn to criticise constructively.

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Re: CBN Has No Option But To Devalue The Naira – S&P by atlwireles: 8:11pm On Jul 16, 2015
bushdoc9919:


At which point I refer to the examples of South Korea and Japan and even China and Singapore.

Raise education standards, invest heavily in industry, spend less on vanity projects....and stop importing things you can make.

I could summarize it as Living as if you have no resources.

APC better pass the books, and forget about oil. Because...the era of high oil price is over. America is now nearly a net producer of oil.

Dutch diseased nations don't do well.




I asked a simple question, what resources.
Re: CBN Has No Option But To Devalue The Naira – S&P by Nobody: 8:22pm On Jul 16, 2015
atlwireles:


I asked a simple question, what resources.

Brains and the available raw materials.....and education.

Simples.

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Re: CBN Has No Option But To Devalue The Naira – S&P by atlwireles: 8:30pm On Jul 16, 2015
bushdoc9919:


Brains and the available raw materials.....and education.

Simples.

What raw material? you keep shouting industrialisation, please stop making this statement when you have no clue how to get there.

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Re: CBN Has No Option But To Devalue The Naira – S&P by Nobody: 8:32pm On Jul 16, 2015
atlwireles:


what raw material? you keep shouting industrialisation, please stop making this statement when you have no clue how to get there.

Good evening sir.
Re: CBN Has No Option But To Devalue The Naira – S&P by amakabaybee(f): 8:39pm On Jul 16, 2015
Taylor86:

ami nwanyi oma
Nwoke oma cheesy grin my igbo sucks
Re: CBN Has No Option But To Devalue The Naira – S&P by onatisi(m): 8:49pm On Jul 16, 2015
Nigeria is in deep shit.this is not the time to be wasting time in decision making.obviously cbn is confused,there is no minister of finance,the president is busy traveling up and down. Nigeria is in a critical situation and buhari is behaving as if the situation isn't serious.if he continues like this I won't be surprised if the naira goes down as much as 300 naira to 1dollar

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Re: CBN Has No Option But To Devalue The Naira – S&P by melzabull(f): 8:49pm On Jul 16, 2015
bushdoc9919:
Truth!

Look...Nigerians....we have no option.

All these years when we should have gotten off oil...we spent on over-importation of things we could manufacture.

The era of oil imports is over. Nigerians....please kindly tell your governors and PMB to develop our industries.

And by the way....if transformation worked....we would not have been here! grin
Shut up! I know this is the type of st√pid excuses you minions will come up with.

The fact is that Buhari promised to make the country eldorado with his bogus campaign promises. We dont care how he does it, he should just fulfil his promises of better economy, better infrastructure, security, housing, etc.

Just spare us that silly 'transformation' excuse. If Obj didn't institutionalize corruption we wouldn't be here.

If the ab0kis didnt wreck this country with the decades of inept and corrupt military leadership, we wouldn't be here.

GEJ is out of the picture now, can you stop calling his name? Perhaps you will also blame your inability to reason properly on GEJ...nonsense

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Re: CBN Has No Option But To Devalue The Naira – S&P by Nobody: 8:54pm On Jul 16, 2015
melzabull:
Shut up! I know this is the type of st√pid excuses you minions will come up with.

The fact is that Buhari promised to make the country eldorado with his bogus campaign promises. We dont care how he does it, he should just fulfil his promises of better economy, better infrastructure, security, housing, etc.

And all that in 2 months? Some of us gave GEJ the benefit of the doubt for two years.


Just spare us that silly 'transformation' excuse. If Obj didn't institutionalize corruption we wouldn't be here.


And GEJ did ......nothing about corruption. Cars were still being bought for $250million......


If the ab0kis didnt wreck this country with the decades of inept and corrupt military leadership, we wouldn't be here.


1.)Gowon was not an aboki.

2.Our resource dependency got us here. Read about Dutch disease.

3.Southerners are just as bad. Ask your local governor how much he or she has done since 1999.?

GEJ is out of the picture now, can you stop calling his name? Perhaps you will also blame your inability to reason properly on GEJ...nonsense

At least....he must take his share of the responsibility for leaving us oil dependent instead of changing things.

And yes...Buhari must do the needful and get us off oil. I am judging him on that.
Re: CBN Has No Option But To Devalue The Naira – S&P by Coolcash1: 8:58pm On Jul 16, 2015
This is just a mere opinion of the firm. It doesn' t have to be followed.

Meanwhile, the questions are; is devaluation the only route for us to keep the economy running? Can't we hold our reserves in cross currency after all, no established rule says it must be in US dollar. Can we continue to entrust the revamp of our delinquent economy in the hands of the current CBN governor? Is there no need for an urgent and immediate set up of strategic think-thank comittee of economics juggernauts to advice government of the situation and possible way out?

Devaluation is dangerous for our economy and economic prosperity of the people.

My thoughts...

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Re: CBN Has No Option But To Devalue The Naira – S&P by melzabull(f): 9:10pm On Jul 16, 2015
bushdoc9919:


And all that in 2 months? Some of us gave GEJ the benefit of the doubt for two years.




And GEJ did ......nothing about corruption. Cars were still being bought for $250million......




1.)Gowon was not an aboki.

2.Our resource dependency got us here. Read about Dutch disease.

3.Southerners are just as bad. Ask your local governor how much he or she has done since 1999.?



At least....he must take his share of the responsibility for leaving us oil dependent instead of changing things.

And yes...Buhari must do the needful and get us off oil. I am judging him on that.
My point is simple. Stop blaming or do not blame GEJ or 'transformation agenda' for buharis inadequacies or failure if you want to be sincere, he was elected to fix the country as he promised to. Otherwise GEJ can as well blame OBJ his predecessor, obasanjo does the same and the circle continues.

Now is change era, let's see if its positive or negative, even thou the latter seem to be the case

BTW buhari getting you off oil? lwkmd...bros u got jokes, eh kwa?

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Re: CBN Has No Option But To Devalue The Naira – S&P by Nobody: 9:18pm On Jul 16, 2015
melzabull:
BTW buhari getting you off oil? lwkmd...bros u got jokes, eh kwa?

Oil price is dropping....and more countries are discovering oil (Even places like Cuba and Benin).

And the US no longer buys our oil.

So.....if Buhari wants to leave a good legacy...he would get us off oil. (See the article ''Pass the books ,hold the oil'' for an idea why).

Look....we have been here before. In 1982....we were here. Oil prices fell after nine years of high price...and within a few years we were so broke that we had to take IMF's SAP treatment.

At least some APC bigwigs are talking about diversification. Let's see if they are serious.(To be honest...I have my doubts).

And much of the Naira's fall happened under GEJ. And we were oil dependent when he came in...and we were oil dependent when he left. Plus...our foreign reserves got depleted by him.(Yes...some governors too were not good savers as well back then...so they share some of the blame). I expect Buhari's economic planners to sit up....but to pretend that it is all his fault is a joke too far.

P.S Naira rate to dollar in 2010.....N149. 2015 Jan N189...AND for much of that time guess who was in charge?

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Re: CBN Has No Option But To Devalue The Naira – S&P by melzabull(f): 9:34pm On Jul 16, 2015
bushdoc9919:


Oil price is dropping....and more countries are discovering oil (Even places like Cuba and Benin).

And the US no longer buys our oil.

So.....if Buhari wants to leave a good legacy...he would get us off oil. (See the article ''Pass the books ,hold the oil'' for an idea why).

Look....we have been here before. In 1982....we were here. Oil prices fell after nine years of high price...and within a few years we were so broke that we had to take IMF's SAP treatment.

At least some APC bigwigs are talking about diversification. Let's see if they are serious.(To be honest...I have my doubts).

And much of the Naira's fall happened under GEJ. And we were oil dependent when he came in...and we were oil dependent when he left. Plus...our foreign reserves got depleted by him.(Yes...some governors too were not good savers as well back then...so they share some of the blame). I expect Buhari's economic planners to sit up....but to pretend that it is all his fault is a joke too far.

P.S Naira rate to dollar in 2010.....N149. 2015 Jan N189...AND for much of that time guess who was in charge?
Oil prices have fallen no doubt and we don't export as much as we used to quite sure. GEJ may not have completed diversification but he started the process. Agriculture was given due attention under him. Local content bill was signed as he encouraged local manufacturing, he supported initiatives eg Innoson. I have not put any blame on bihari even thou boko bombing has Increased exponentially, lopsided appointments...*lip sealed*

On your last sentence, its N243-$1 today, it could be N300 by the time buhari leaves, hope you won't come back to fault GEJ? lol

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Re: CBN Has No Option But To Devalue The Naira – S&P by Nobody: 9:45pm On Jul 16, 2015
amakabaybee:


Nwoke oma cheesy
grin my igbo sucks

sucks?

nope u got it dear

where are you

and y dnt we share pins

check my signature
Re: CBN Has No Option But To Devalue The Naira – S&P by atlwireles: 9:50pm On Jul 16, 2015
melzabull:
Oil prices have fallen no doubt and we don't export as much as we used to quite sure. GEJ may not have completed diversification but he started the process. Agriculture was given due attention under him. Local content bill was signed as he encouraged local manufacturing, he supported initiatives eg Innoson. I have not put any blame on bihari even thou boko bombing has Increased exponentially, lopsided appointments...*lip sealed*

On your last sentence, its N243-$1 today, it could be N300 by the time buhari leaves, hope you won't come back to fault GEJ? lol


N300 to $1 before December 2015.
Re: CBN Has No Option But To Devalue The Naira – S&P by melzabull(f): 9:53pm On Jul 16, 2015
atlwireles:


N300 to $1 before December 2015.
lol..insecurity and economy already worsened under him cheesy
Re: CBN Has No Option But To Devalue The Naira – S&P by nwonufestus(m): 10:02pm On Jul 16, 2015
wen PMB wil finish nigeria







wat wil b remaining will b









change
Re: CBN Has No Option But To Devalue The Naira – S&P by lexy2014: 10:47pm On Jul 16, 2015
ayusco85:
Devalue it o. if it will make our economy better
it definitely won't make d economy better. D economy is import dependent. A higher dollar means importers will have 2 pay more 2 get dollars and by extension it will cost them more 2 import goods. That means price of goods and services will likely go up
Re: CBN Has No Option But To Devalue The Naira – S&P by Ugosample(m): 10:51pm On Jul 16, 2015
socialmediaman:
Read Carefully and Understand why all this is happening

Exchange rate doesn't just get devalued because of what happened today, it is as a result of what happened yesterday. Buhari's government hasn't done anything that warrants devaluation of our currency. Observe that the report said the devaluation has been long overdue, they were probably waiting for GEJ to win the election before they told us the truth about how bad things had become, hope you didn't forget when GEJ told workers on May Day to prepare for hard times.

During the Global Economic crisis of 2008-2009, Yar'Adua had saved up to $62 billion dollars from the $43 billion OBJ left in the Foreign reserve before leaving office, the CBN used some of this to cushion the effects of the economic crunch...

Fast forward to the time of GEJ, Nigeria started witnessing oil boom again, GEJ couldn't save anything in the foreign reserve, he rather depleted it to an all time low of $29 billion dollars, he could not even invest the money he didn't save into the economy, not even after causing hardship on Nigerians after increasing the price of petrol, remember it was this same period that he started wasting 2 trillion naira on subsidy thieves, apart from that his government started granting fraudulent import waivers that caused Nigeria a loss of over $20 billion dollars, not to mention that his government through the NNPC mismanaged at least N3.8 trillion of Nigeria's revenue, it was all Jamboree. The most annoying part was that out of all these trillions, he could only afford to spend only N15 billion naira on Youwin project to create few jobs for the very youths who stood by him all through his jamboree government, but he was paying over 2 trillion to cabals who even abandoned him after he lost election.

Even with the oil price crumble, almost empty Federation account and only $29 billion in foreign reserve, Buhari was able to save $700 million in just 1 month to shore up our foreign reserve as a matter of urgency so that we won't be faced with hardship with the rising dollar, oil price fall and inflation.

Let's call a spade a spade, we are the ones who will suffer the financial crisis created by GEJ, we must support Buhari to recover all our money from GEJ and his cronies, they didn't steal money for us, thy stole for themselves and their families while we fight on their behalf, we must ask them to return our money. Leave only those who are being paid to support them them to do thier jobs, do not join them, let's all work together and put them to shame!

Did you bother to reason why the Jonathan administration spent more?
1) The wage bill increased across board I.e. the minimum wage increased from #7500 to #18000. Go and find out how much this added to the country's recurrent expenditure.

2) Similar to the first point, the youth service allowance also increased to #19800. Do you know how much extra that also added to government expenditure, coupled with the growth in the number of students doing NYSC annually?

The truth is, oil prices were highest in the Obasanjo era, with fewer responsibilities then, than we have now.
Every single President ruined Nigeria one way or the other and that includes this current President. One way they all did this was that they failed to diversify the economy. Jonathan shouldn't take the blame alone.

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