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Re: Buhari's Article: Buhari Was Right On Obama's Cabinet by kaboninc(m): 12:54pm On Jul 22, 2015
Musiwax,

You really did well in writing a counter claim against Barcanista's observation. I must commend you for that...yes, you wrote something!

However, this something you wrote was a wasted effort as instead of objectively countering a claim, it made mockery of yours.

Why? The most important thing was that in Obama's first term, nominations were made before he was sworn in. Can you say that for Mr. Buhari's?

In as much as we want the best for Nigeria, we should be objective in our analysis.

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Re: Buhari's Article: Buhari Was Right On Obama's Cabinet by Mrco2: 1:12pm On Jul 22, 2015
How can any one explain not naming a single member of the cabinet in 53 days. Agreed Obama didn't have a full cabinet but key departments where filled within few days of his inauguration in 2009. If in 53 days PMB can not name the Secretary to the Government of the Federation it shows he is not prepared for the task ahead and lack control of his government.

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Re: Buhari's Article: Buhari Was Right On Obama's Cabinet by lond07: 1:37pm On Jul 22, 2015
henryboff:
I am only interested in what is good for Nigeria. While PMB has his reasons for tarrying with the ministerial nominations, any objective Nigerian knows that this delay is causing serious problems for our country.

Instead of facing the issues, we Nigerians have formed a very bad habit of defending a position by all means possible irrespective of whether that position is right or wrong.

The issue here is that ministers have not been nominated and this is causing problems. So how does this thread help in solving the problem?

It is quite clear that PMB was not entirely correct with his statement, but the question is why are we Nigerians arguing over a statement when we should rather be trying to assist the present administration in solving the many issues facing Nigeria.


What problems is this causing? Please provide details.

Are the ministries not functioning? What have the permanent secretaries been doing? What difference would appointing ministers have made?
Re: Buhari's Article: Buhari Was Right On Obama's Cabinet by viczing(m): 1:53pm On Jul 22, 2015
giantstrides:


Please show us the lies in all she said, you guys are so deluded. The APC deserves credible opposition, not the poo the PDP is giving us now .

Was apc a credible opposition You make me laugh... y'all lived on lies and propaganda that's all

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Re: Buhari's Article: Buhari Was Right On Obama's Cabinet by maestroferddi: 2:00pm On Jul 22, 2015
Bitterleafsoup:
starting with transportation secratary mumu the first to come in under Obama was Ray Lahood you people are really dull


He held the post until 2013 meaning he went into the 2nd term with Obama and later in 2013 was replaced by Foxx.


Hilda Solis the same thing. She came in 2008 stayed until 2013 and resigned after he was in office like Ray Lahood the position was not vacant during this time. No office has ever been empty with the local receptionist running the department, you people are so confused.
I find you rather culpable for having the time to waste bandying words with the myopic, narrow-minded, incorrigible and egregious horde of fawning APC and Buhari supporters.

I find the whole thing just laughable. The degree with which these people are trying in futility to defend a man who has demonstrably showed that he is patently giddy and disoriented on the soapbox beats my wildest imagination.

There indeed was a country...

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Re: Buhari's Article: Buhari Was Right On Obama's Cabinet by Reagan777: 2:01pm On Jul 22, 2015
President Buhari Was Wrong Wrong Wrong Wrong Wrong on Obama's Cabinet
Please let me give you the picture that makes President Buhari the slowest slowest snail.
Please we are retro-grassing steadily.......I strongly agree with ''Barcanista'' and his views
This Reply is for; ''musiwax''

The ancillary questions we must then ask, in interrogating this defence, are
Conservative estimates conclude that more than 20% of the world's black population lives in Nigeria.
President Obama on assumption;
3,300: Approximate number of presidentially appointed jobs Obama will have had to fill, from Defense Secretary to NASA administrator

Solomon choose 3,600 men to oversee.
(2 Chron 2:2) Solomon told out threescore and ten thousand men to bear burdens, and fourscore thousand to hew in the mountain, and three thousand and six hundred to oversee them.

All your aforementioned names of late-comers into Obama administration were a pot of soup cooked with lies.
Gary Locke- Secretary of Commerce, Kathleen Sebelius & the others had cases before senate that singled them out for lateness into the Cabinet.
Secretary of Health and Human Services, Kathleen Sebelius was confirmed late because first choice candidate, Tom Daschle, withdrew.

Obama nominated his core team days after winning election.
Obama even had the key people confirmed by senate before his inauguration.
President Barack Obama announced his intention to nominate Eric H. Holder Jr. on December 1, 2008.
Eric Holder was confirmed on Feb 2, 2009 as the Attorney General.
Hillary Clinton was confirmed on January 15,2009 as the Secretary of State.
The first inauguration of Barack Obama as the 44th President of the United States took place on Tuesday, January 20, 2009.

Timothy Geithner; Treasury Secretary
The ancillary story is Timothy Geithner went to Obama on his 3rd day in office and told him there were 6 bombs that had been triggered and one of the bombs (Lehman Brothers) had already detonated and surgical operation on-going to have the remainder 5 de-armed.

Lehman Brothers collapse was the ground-zero of the 2009 Economic Crisis worse than the Great Depression in 1929.
Florida as a state was the ground-zero (more people lost their homes in Florida than elsewhere)
Economic gurus like Larry Sommers who had served in the Clinton Administration and a former President of Harvard University were key actors.

Nyerere of Tanzania was a painfully honest man. Like Buhari, he led a transparent government and did not rob the state, or fraudulently accumulate personal wealth. Also like Buhari, after he left office, Nyerere ended up in one tiny dilapidated house as further proof of his honesty as a public servant. The other truth is that Nyerere’s personal honesty does not remove the fact that he failed to take advantage of what civilisation offered by way of improved governance practices and economic leadership. Yes, he left office an honest man, but he also left a nation severely underdeveloped because he applied a template that would be ideal for a small community of the close-kindred type to a nations-state and ended up with rather depressing results. As I write, Tanzania is yet to recover from Julius Nyerere’s personal goodness and honesty.

My respect for the person of President Buhari is not diminished by whatever defects of character anyone may attribute to him. We all have our shortcomings. What will not happen is that people will, out of respect for his person, endorse him for official responsibilities that some of his good personal qualities may not serve very well.
As a citizen, it is my responsibility to put the narrative that we are slowly sluggishly accepting the excuse that our President is not slow
As far as i can see and as far as i can say on President Buhari's mode of operation.........this is snail moving.
The snail mates only once in its entire life
Some desert snails have been known to sleep for three to four years
The fastest-moving land snail, the common garden snail, has a speed of 0.0313 mph

32nd-largest country and the 7th most populous country in the world: Nigeria.
It is comparable in size to Venezuela, and is about twice the size of California.
Nigeria is the most populous country in Africa, the seventh most populous country in the world, and the most populous country in the world in which the majority of the population is black.
Conservative estimates conclude that more than 20% of the world's black population lives in Nigeria.

As I write, Tanzania is yet to recover from Julius Nyerere’s personal goodness and honesty.

TIME, February 9, 2009
Subject: Power Grid
Page: 14
Obama's First Week. A look at who sits where in President Obama's West Wing
3,300: Approximate number of presidentially appointed jobs Obama will have had to fill, from Defense Secretary to NASA administrator

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Re: Buhari's Article: Buhari Was Right On Obama's Cabinet by maestroferddi: 2:08pm On Jul 22, 2015
lond07:


What problems is this causing? Please provide details.

Are the ministries not functioning? What have the permanent secretaries been doing? What difference would appointing ministers have made?
Since you people love being disingenuous, just tell us what Buhari has accomplished after over 50 days in power.

Don't tell us about improvement in power supply because Buhari has not provided 1 kilowatts of power since we all know that the improvement is attributable to Jonathan's strides before leaving office.

Let us know what Buhari has accomplished in practical terms apart from going to America to get a tutorial from Obama on how to run his shop (Nigeria).

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Re: Buhari's Article: Buhari Was Right On Obama's Cabinet by jobsat34(m): 4:34pm On Jul 22, 2015
ProfEinstein:
Who takes barcanista serious? That semi illiterate tanoid who can't make any sane political analysis devoid of sentiments. He is more of a political prostitute tongue

the real brain behind that moniker you mention is dead...
this ghost can continue to rant anyhow he likes, no one takes him serious again except his/her fellow tanoids..
Re: Buhari's Article: Buhari Was Right On Obama's Cabinet by Bitterleafsoup: 4:55pm On Jul 22, 2015
maestroferddi:
I find you rather culpable for having the time to waste bandying words with the myopic, narrow-minded, incorrigible and egregious horde of fawning APC and Buhari supporters.

I find the whole thing just laughable. The degree with which these people are trying in futility to defend a man who has demonstrably showed that he is patently giddy and disoriented on the soapbox beats my wildest imagination.

There indeed was a country...
I was going to ignore it but before you know it they will land it on front page, embarrassing Nigerians once again with lack of cognitive thinking skills
Re: Buhari's Article: Buhari Was Right On Obama's Cabinet by dabossman(m): 5:36pm On Jul 22, 2015
Personally, I don't know what the noise is all about. CHANGE is usually a departure from the NORM.

The norm is to have state governors send a list to the President, who with or without scrutiny, forwards the list to the Senate. At the Senate most nominees are asked to take a bow and go to enjoy their new found status as Ministers of the Federal Republic of Nigeria. No questions. No real screening. Just bow and go to loot your own share of the national booty.

Buhari has decided in line with his party slogan to have a change of approach. Whether this approach will work or not is left to be seen. But there is nothing wrong with doing things differently.
Re: Buhari's Article: Buhari Was Right On Obama's Cabinet by dabossman(m): 5:48pm On Jul 22, 2015
maestroferddi:
Since you people love being disingenuous, just tell us what Buhari has accomplished after over 50 days in power.

Don't tell us about improvement in power supply because Buhari has not provided 1 kilowatts of power since we all know that the improvement is attributable to Jonathan's strides before leaving office.

Let us know what Buhari has accomplished in practical terms apart from going to America to get a tutorial from Obama on how to run his shop (Nigeria).

Hhm, GEJ our hero!

Imagine playing a soccer game of 90 minutes, and after your opponents have scored like 10 goals you suddenly realize with 5 minutes left on the clock that you are interested in winning. So, you try to score a couple of goals before the final whistle. Alas, the GAME IS OVER! All everyone can remember is that you lost the game, not the last minute goals you scored in a bid to save face.

Imagine Villas Boas laying claim to Chelsea's Champions League title. Sorry bro, all we can remember is Di Matteo lifting the trophy.

You dig? tongue grin
Re: Buhari's Article: Buhari Was Right On Obama's Cabinet by Nobody: 6:25pm On Jul 22, 2015
He is overrated dullard! angry lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed cry cry cry cry
Re: Buhari's Article: Buhari Was Right On Obama's Cabinet by adconline(m): 6:48pm On Jul 22, 2015
adanny01:


Is this the FULL list of Obama's team? What part of FULL is hard to understand?

If Obama assembled his team in 2008 because of economic recession, GMD did not assemble his team because of massive corruption which he has to set a standard before he assembles his team.

Just like GMB is not Obama, Obama is not GMB!!!
Stupidity inked in ur DNA. Obama had nominated all his cabinet members for senate confirmation before 30 days in office whike GMB has nominated NONE in 60 days.. because US was at war, there was no vacuum in military leadership, he retained Bob Gates from Bush while Naija is at war and we have no defense minister...
Re: Buhari's Article: Buhari Was Right On Obama's Cabinet by KwoiZabo(m): 6:56pm On Jul 22, 2015
musiwax:
We should be careful of how we take news from the self-acclaimed oppositions on Nairaland, who post half-truths in a bid to embellish their evil vendetta. Unfortunately, due to disjointed analysis and basic incompetence on many levels, the opposition I'm afraid have succeeded in making a mockery of their role as a viable alternative.

Now before we proceed, let us examine what President Buhari actually said which was also corroborated by the accuser in chief



Pause and take a moment to note the keywords "did not have his full cabinet". Another factor to note before we continue is that, nominating a member of cabinet doesn't mean automatic confirmation by the senate, the case of Thomas Perez the Secretary of Labor is classic example. Let us remember the keyword "full cabinet in place", lest we digress from the focus of this riposte.


On November 6, 2012, Obama won 332 electoral votes, exceeding the 270 required for him to be reelected as president. A private swearing-in ceremony took place on Sunday, January 20, 2013 in the Blue Room of the White House. A public ceremony took place on Monday, January 21, 2013 at the United States Capitol building.

Gary Locke (2009-2011) - Secretary of Commerce
Former Washington Governor Gary Locke was designated as the third Commerce nominee, multiple media outlets reported on February 23, 2009. An official announcement was made at a press conference with Locke and President Obama. After confirmation on March 24, Locke became the first Chinese American Secretary of Commerce, and the third Asian American in Obama's cabinet, joining Energy Secretary Steven Chu and Veterans Affairs Secretary Eric Shinseki, the most of any administration in United States history.

3 months after inauguration


Kathleen Sebelius (2009-2014) - Secretary of Health and Human Services
On March 2, 2009, President Barack Obama introduced Kansas Governor Kathleen Sebelius as his choice to fill the office of Secretary of Health and Human Services. Sebelius was confirmed by the United States Senate on April 28, 2009 amid the swine flu health crisis.

In April 2013, after the rocky start of HealthCare.gov, the website set up to enroll Americans in insurance exchanges, Sebelius decided to resign as Secretary as according to Sebelius the March 31, 2014 deadline for sign-ups under the health care law provided an opportunity for change so that Obama would be best served by someone who was not the target of so much political ire.

5months after inauguration



Sally Jewell (2013-present) - Secretary of the Interior
On February 6, 2013, President Obama nominated the CEO of REI, Sally Jewell, as Secretary of the Interior. The Senate confirmed Jewell's nomination by an 87-11 vote on April 10, 2013.

4 months after inauguration



Penny Pritzker (2013-present) - Secretary of Commerce
On May 2, 2013, President Obama announced the nomination of hotel magnate Penny Pritzker as Secretary of Commerce. On June 10, 2013 the Commerce, Science and Technology Committee unanimously approved Pritzker's nomination. On June 25, 2013 Pritzker was confirmed by the full Senate on June 25, by a vote of 97 to 1.

6 months after inauguration



Thomas Perez (2013−present) - Secretary of Labor
On January 9, 2013, Hilda Solis announced she would not stay on for Obama's second term and that she was resigning. On March 18, 2013, President Obama nominated assistant U.S. Attorney General Thomas Perez for labor secretary.

Republicans oppose the nomination because they see him as a "committed ideologue". On May 16, 2013 Perez's nomination was endorsed by the committee along party lines. The vote sends the nomination to the Senate floor.

On July 18, 2013 Perez was confirmed as labor secretary after senators reached a deal to avert changing the chamber’s rules and which on July 17 saw the Senate vote to move forward with a vote on Perez, with his nomination getting 60 votes to break the filibuster. The Senate ultimately confirmed Perez on a party-line vote, 54-46.

7 months after inauguration



Anthony Foxx (2013-present) - Secretary of Transportation
Anthony Foxx, Mayor of Charlotte, North Carolina was nominated by President Barack Obama on April 29, 2013, to succeed Ray LaHood. On June 10, 2013 the Commerce, Science and Technology Committee unanimously approved Foxx's nomination. On June 27, 2013 Foxx was unanimously (100-0) confirmed by the U.S. Senate. Foxx was sworn in on July 2, as the 17th Secretary of Transportation.

6 months after inauguration


I rest my case.

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When did Jan 21 to March 24 become 3 months. You are very stupid. I cannot complete your post but the truth is we all suffer from the ineptitude of the dulllard.
Re: Buhari's Article: Buhari Was Right On Obama's Cabinet by Kenobus: 7:07pm On Jul 22, 2015
It is so sad that some crude people would defend the Daura President. It is so bad. A govt without a secretary for two months? What is there to defend? Nothing is working as we speak. Is that how US is? The foolish ones are encouraging a dictatorship in Nigeria. I just wondered the level of decay
Re: Buhari's Article: Buhari Was Right On Obama's Cabinet by jaytee01(m): 7:22pm On Jul 22, 2015
maestroferddi:
Since you people love being disingenuous, just tell us what Buhari has accomplished after over 50 days in power.

Don't tell us about improvement in power supply because Buhari has not provided 1 kilowatts of power since we all know that the improvement is attributable to Jonathan's strides before leaving office.

Let us know what Buhari has accomplished in practical terms apart from going to America to get a tutorial from Obama on how to run his shop (Nigeria).
Pls tell us the power plant that was initiated and built by GEJ , did he not inherit a power sector already on the "move" from OBJ and Yar' Adua?
Re: Buhari's Article: Buhari Was Right On Obama's Cabinet by ExInferis(m): 7:29pm On Jul 22, 2015
Abok1:

Everyone on Nairaland knows Barcanista to be an ambidextrous individual with a knack for myopic swevens based on hear-says and mere trumpery. He is constantly making face-saving ripostes, in a bid to launder an already quomodocunquized reputation, while constantly making spontaneous panegyric eulogy about GEJ. While with the same warped logic, slags President Buhari, whose only crime is ousting the non-performing incumbent in a free and fair election.


Great. Now you've given me brain fever.
Re: Buhari's Article: Buhari Was Right On Obama's Cabinet by adanny01(m): 8:52pm On Jul 22, 2015
adconline:

Stupidity inked in ur DNA. Obama had nominated all his cabinet members for senate confirmation before 30 days in office whike GMB has nominated NONE in 60 days.. because US was at war, there was no vacuum in military leadership, he retained Bob Gates from Bush while Naija is at war and we have no defense minister...

Just typical of children. Your mates are protesting against Jamb!

Secretary of Commerce
Pritzker was nominated as United States Secretary of Commerce by President Barack Obama on May 2, 2013.[31][32] After an uneventful confirmation hearing on May 23, 2013,[33] Pritzker was confirmed by the full Senate on June 25, by a vote of 97 to 1.[34] Pritzker was sworn in as Secretary on June 26, 2013.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penny_Pritzker

You should be ashamed of yourself for insisting on falsehood like a child who has no respect for his elders. She was nominated more than 3months after Obama's inauguration yet you claim all were nominated before 30days in office. Just like the op's post has stated, the list continues but obviously you are too blinded by hate.
Re: Buhari's Article: Buhari Was Right On Obama's Cabinet by adconline(m): 12:13am On Jul 23, 2015
adanny01:


Just typical of children. Your mates are protesting against Jamb!



You should be ashamed of yourself for insisting on falsehood like a child who has no respect for his elders. She was nominated more than 3months after Obama's inauguration yet you claim all were nominated before 30days in office. Just like the op's post has stated, the list continues but obviously you are too blinded by hate.
You are a replica of willful ignorance that has engulfed this nation. Otto Wolff was Commerce Secretary pending confirmatio of Mr Locke in 2009. He was confirmed on March 20, 2009. Pritkzer came on board during 2nd term and a Secretary and her predecessor was still running the dept until she was confirmed. You obviously don't know the diff btw nomination &confirmation. We are talking about first time in 2009 and you are talking about 2nd term in 2013.. I blame our education for not teaching folks like u common sense and Logic
Re: Buhari's Article: Buhari Was Right On Obama's Cabinet by adanny01(m): 8:16am On Jul 23, 2015
adconline:

You are a replica of willful ignorance that has engulfed this nation. Otto Wolff was Commerce Secretary pending confirmatio of Mr Locke in 2009. He was confirmed on March 20, 2009. Pritkzer came on board during 2nd term and a Secretary and her predecessor was still running the dept until she was confirmed. You obviously don't know the diff btw nomination &confirmation. We are talking about first time in 2009 and you are talking about 2nd term in 2013.. I blame our education for not teaching folks like u common sense and Logic

Are you that dumb? Aren't the perm secs still running the ministries before appointments are made?
Re: Buhari's Article: Buhari Was Right On Obama's Cabinet by adconline(m): 1:29pm On Jul 23, 2015
adanny01:


Are you that dumb? Aren't the perm secs still running the ministries before appointments are made?
What an arrogant display of sophisticated idiocy. You lack common sense to discern that 2009 is not 2013; and permanent secs aren't the same as ministers.. Why do Brits have perm secs and minsters? Why did previous admins have perm secs and ministers instead of perm secs alone? We are at war and perm secs can't articulate how to plan and execute military strategies against BH.
Re: Buhari's Article: Buhari Was Right On Obama's Cabinet by adanny01(m): 1:38pm On Jul 23, 2015
adconline:

What an arrogant display of sophisticated idiocy. You lack common sense to discern that 2009 is not 2013; and permanent secs aren't the same as ministers.. Why do Brits have perm secs and minsters? Why did previous admins had perm secs and minister instead of perm secs alone? We are at war and perm secs can't articulate how to plan and execute military strategies against BH.

My arsenal of insults is empty and your comprehension is limited. I wont stress myself further.
Re: Buhari's Article: Buhari Was Right On Obama's Cabinet by adconline(m): 2:22pm On Jul 23, 2015
adanny01:


My arsenal of insults is empty and your comprehension is limited. I wont stress myself further.
Cos you have nothing to offer intellectually.. That's why u started by calling names.. Just tell us whose script is GMB copying from not Obama's . You have to try a bit harder to convince dullards like u not folks like us.
Re: Buhari's Article: Buhari Was Right On Obama's Cabinet by adanny01(m): 2:50pm On Jul 23, 2015
adconline:

Cos you have nothing to offer intellectually.. That's why u started by calling names.. Just tell us whose script is GMB copying from not Obama's . You have to try a bit harder to convince dullards like u not folks like us.

See for yourself who started insults

Is this the FULL list of Obama's team? What part of FULL is hard to understand?

If Obama assembled his team in 2008 because of economic recession, GMD did not assemble his team because of massive corruption which he has to set a standard before he assembles his team.

Just like GMB is not Obama, Obama is not GMB!!!

and your reply

Stupidity inked in ur DNA. Obama had nominated all his cabinet members for senate confirmation before 30 days in office whike GMB has nominated NONE in 60 days.. because US was at war, there was no vacuum in military leadership, he retained Bob Gates from Bush while Naija is at war and we have no defense minister...

You have some growing up to do.
Re: Buhari's Article: Buhari Was Right On Obama's Cabinet by adconline(m): 3:41pm On Jul 23, 2015
adanny01:


See for yourself who started insults



and your reply



You have some growing up to do.
Put on a realistic lens and view Naija with objectivity. Folks didn't vote this guy in to stagnate the country. Calling every critic a hater even when it's clear that he/she is right makes u look like an uppity partisan brigand!
Re: Buhari's Article: Buhari Was Right On Obama's Cabinet by adanny01(m): 4:53pm On Jul 23, 2015
adconline:

Put on a realistic lens and view Naija with objectivity. Folks didn't vote this guy in to stagnate the country. Calling every critic a hater even when it's clear that he/she is right makes u look like an uppity partisan brigand!

This is not a race. He has to plan. You have no idea what the man is up to but wont keep wait for it. We didnt vote him to do things like it was done before him. We asked him for change and if change will come from delay of ministers, so be it.
Re: Buhari's Article: Buhari Was Right On Obama's Cabinet by adconline(m): 6:24pm On Jul 23, 2015
adanny01:


This is not a race. He has to plan. You have no idea what the man is up to but wont keep wait for it. We didnt vote him to do things like it was done before him. We asked him for change and if change will come from delay of ministers, so be it.
This is a race and score will be taken month.. It's pure lack of vision when he campaigned to be president for 12yrs and doesn't have a blueprint on how to run the country. There is no precedent for this before and it's not going well. There was no technocrat on his team in his last visit to the U.S.. Obama's team was taking notes with pen and notepad while GMB's team had no pen.. This govt man is another unserious one!!

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