A debate has ensued on this forum, concerning remarks credited to President Muhammadu Buhari about the Obama cabinet. The debate stemmed from a very opinionated critic (Barcanista) of the president trying his best to nit-pick and skew the message of Buhari, with the goal to achieve nothing of any relevance, but to keep faith with a daily quota of anti-Buhari online propaganda.

I will use this medium to remind us of the very claim that is in contention as quoted by the trouble maker, juxtaposing it with a simple tabular record of the Obama cabinet as supplied in the raging debate by a supporter of Barcanista's arguement, I will point out the facts of the arguement, then leave you all to come to a conclusion on the merit/irrelevance of the debate.


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"When cabinet ministers are appointed in September, it will be some months after I took the oath of office. It is worth noting that Obama himself did not have his full Cabinet in place for several months after first taking office; the United States did not cease to function in the interim." --- (Pres. Muhammadu Buhari)"

2. The Obama Cabinet.











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Buhari did not regale us with tales as to the reasons why Obama was unable to have his full cabinet several months after his inauguration. However, it is a fact judging by the table supplied by a forum member arguing in opposition to Buhari, that Obama did not have a full cabinet several months into his administration.

Kathleen Sebelius, Health - 98 days (3 Months)
Gary Locke, Commerce - 63 days (2 Months)
Hilda Solis, Labour - 35 days (1 Month)

"It is worth noting that Obama himself did not have his full cabinet in place for several months after first taking office" -PMB

Buhari did not muse on whether nominations were made before inauguration or whether there were rejections from the nominated candidates, that then required subsequent re-nominations. Buhari made a simple statement of fact as to the status of the Obama cabinet many months after his inauguration.


Did President Buhari Lie?
What exactly is Barcanista's grouse with this statement, judging by the facts he himself has presented?
Why are we having this debate?

It is my opinion that if Barcanista had no ulterior motive behind this irrelevant debate, then he needs a lesson on English grammar.

K

Abeg, allow the chief Wailer to continue fooling himself. I don't see anything worth arguing in this issue.

The debate continues.


Cc: Lalasticlala, Ishilove.

When one is in a haste to criticize, he is bound to make a f00l of himself. That's barca's problem for u. A lil patience to read and understand would have saved him this embarrassment.

Anytime he sees that Buhari is receiving praises over a particular issue, he feels uncomfortable. So what he does is, he closes himself up in a hut and concoct nonsense for his ever-hungry family(Wailing wailers) to feast on. The guy in summary, iz shameless.

I've read the debate, it's actually meaningless. Even if 1 cabinet member was missing from Obama's cabinet months after, that makes Buhari right.

But then the childishness in all of this is that Buhari has given reasons why his cabinet would not be ready till September, it has to be respected till you can prove that government is grounded for no just reason due to his decision.

The problem with the senseless debate is, Barca is fighting over something that's purely a presidential decision and in no way a breach of the constitution, this makes no sense.

midolian:
When one is in a haste to criticize, he is bound to make a f00l of himself. That's barca's problem for u. A lil patience to read and understand would have saved him this embarrassment.

Anytime he sees that Buhari is receiving praises over a particular issue, he feels uncomfortable. So what he does is, he closes himself up in a hut and concoct nonsense for his ever-hungry family(Wailing wailers) to feast on. The guy in summary, iz shameless.

Agreed.

Barcanistar represents the dregs of the society. His obsession with President Buhari is due to his inability to sell his roguish online posts to APC. Other than do something meaningful with his life, he continues to believe that Buhari will buy him off. Barcanistar represents nothing meaningful and proffers nothing useful. If he has any problems, Buhari is not responsible for that.

Peace is knowing that even if Buhari doesn't apppoint ministers till 2019, Barcanista's sole duty for the duration of this administration would be incrementing his topic count on Nairaland Politics section.

Fortunately, we all know how events on Nairaland Politics section play a huge role in governance and politics in Nigeria. By 2019, their noble hero GEJ would be resurrected and his campaign thrust would be early appointment of ministerial nominees.

Ignore these incosequential neophytes. Whatever presence and popularity their monikers garner online closely mirrors their absence and zero contribution in the real world where real politicians discuss real issues not whether Buhari has his bath daily, or if he wears his left shoe before the right one.

He reminds me of Dele Momodu - a good writer who dabbles into politics because he thinks it makes him relevant. We all know his true calling is the entertainment business. Maybe one day, bracan will find his own purpose.

midolian:
When one is in a haste to criticize, he is bound to make a f00l of himself. That's barca's problem for u. A lil patience to read and understand would have saved him this embarrassment.

Anytime he sees that Buhari is receiving praises over a particular issue, he feels uncomfortable. So what he does is, he closes himself up in a hut and concoct nonsense for his ever-hungry family(Wailing wailers) to feast on. The guy in summary, iz shameless.

You couldn't have said it any better.

The dude is always in a rush to be the one to critique any position, policy or statement of the Buhari administration.

The debate was totally uncalled for, but he just had to meet that daily quota, as there are many party wolves to compete with.

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Buhari is yet to appoint a single minister after two months. Comparing him with Obama on this reason is flawed.

Emekamex:
Buhari is yet to appoint a single minister after two months. Comparing him with Obama on this reason is flawed.

Understand the bone of contention; Buhari said that Obama didn't have HIS FULL CABINET in place several months after taking office. Your Barcanistar claims that Buhari was wrong, that Obama had his full cabinet in place against Buhari's claims.

kITATITA:

Understand the bone of contention; Buhari said that Obama didn't have HIS FULL CABINET in place several months after taking office. Your Barcanistar claims that Buhari was wrong, that Obama had his full cabinet in place against Buhari's claims.

the bone of contention is that the dullard of daura is comparing himself with someone who started nominating his cabinet even before inauguration.

buhari brought himself into this mess and should be allowed to swallow the gutter water alone.
next time, before he open his dirty, stinking, mouth, he should use wisdom, which at this age, it will be a pity if he still lacks.

That guy is just trying to be relevant

The fact is that Obama nominated individuals before inauguration but there was still the issue of confirmation by the congress. This took some time but not as long as PMB is suggesting . Also key positions didn't take so long. More importantly else where in the world people are more expedient with such issues. For example David Cameron immediately after elections put together his team. The onus on PMB now is to nominate his ministers with respect to time for the mere fact that he can wait for the economy but the economy will not wait for him

I believe Buhari is determined to have a time lag between the ministers at the helm before his regime and those appointed by his regime.

He has alluded to this deliberate plan of his so as to take stock of what is amiss, and to avoid any confusion over who was responsible for what, when allegations of impropriety start flying about as we expect to have it soon in this regime determined to fight corruption in government.

I believe Buhari chose his words carefully enough to win this argument even if brought up in a law court.

"It is worth noting that Obama himself did not have his full cabinet in place for several months after first taking office"
That is the fact, so where is the lie?

He never made mention of what situation might have conspired to cause Obama's delay. He never mentioned the word nominate or name. He simply said he did not have his full cabinet, and the timeline of their respective tenures shows that to be true.

So why is a devil's advocate trying to start a debate that is not debatable judging by the facts even he has presented.

So I ask again, did Buhari lie in his remarks?

This is a simple case of a poor grasp of English grammar, coupled with a vehement determination to smear Buhari.