SovietBomber:


Why is bigamy banned in the west even when consenting adults are involved?

Should we allow gay couples adopt little children?

woodcook:


[s]This depends on the society and how the society is structured. In advance countries where institutions that are responsible for the protection of children are actually effective. I would rather have them be allowed to adopt kids instead of leaving those kids in foster care without the warmth and comfort of a loving home. Remember that irresponsibility cuts across gender and sexual orientation, I believe that being a responsible parent has nothing to do with being gay or not. What matters most is the welfare of those defenseless and needy kids, their needs and protection should come first and what is best for them should be done[/s].

SovietBomber:


God will punish you abundantly. I never knew I was chatting with a deranged goat.

woodcook:


[s]You see yourself? In this age and time, someone brought up an issue for discussion and the best argument you can come up with is to insult me. I really do not feel sorry for you given your level of reasoning and communication I do feel sorry for the world given that someday you will procreate your like.

So much for Christianity!

I am sure you have read about kids being molestation by hetero parents almost on daily basis on NL, that does not mean that gay couples are saints. The point is evil people are everywhere irrespective of gender and sexual orientation.

I doubt if your Jesus or Mohammed will rather have a kid been adopted by a crack head hetero parents or the type of parents that stabbed a 5 year defenseless child or the type that was sleeping with an 11 years whose wife almost killed or the principle that raped 5 year old student and inserted stick in her vagina or the neighbor that raped a 2 year old or by gay couple that can provide the child with warmth and thriving environment?

The world has changed, everything is open for discussion and the earlier you adopt an open mind and have meaningful and objective conversation the better for the society at large.[/s]

UncleJudax:

Like Agapecharis opined, you reek of undiluted double standard.

It is highly inconceivable that you have no problem with (even defending) the ban on bigamy and imbreeding, but somehow condone the liberalisation of homosexuality.

Again, you guys should just let it go, I don't belief ANYBODY is born gay. Some people just want to be different, it doesn't make the act innate.

When I meet a gay person, I have to distinguish between their being gay and being part of humanity. If they accept the Lord and have goodwill, who am I to judge them? They shouldn’t be marginalized. The tendency is not the problem…they’re our brothers.

SovietBomber:


Loads of shiit, you will make very good firewood material for hell. I am sure satan will use you as firewood to prepare peppersoup for himself.

May 1000Kj of red thunder destroy that useless mouth you use to call Jesus and may leprosy shrink those worthless fingers you used in typing his name you unfortunate beast of burden. The bible is very clear on matters concerning homosexuality, it is wrong and unacceptable not to talk of giving innocent little children to those good-for-nothing useless and hopeless men that say they are gay.

SovietBomber:


Loads of shiit, you will make very good firewood material for hell. I am sure satan will use you as firewood to prepare peppersoup for himself.

May 1000Kj of red thunder destroy that useless mouth you use to call Jesus and may leprosy shrink those worthless fingers you used in typing his name you unfortunate beast of burden. The bible is very clear on matters concerning homosexuality, it is wrong and unacceptable not to talk of giving innocent little children to those good-for-nothing useless and hopeless men that say they are gay.

Yevgeny:


Learn how to argue like a civilized person and stop throwing tantrums when you have nothing to say.

He was arguing with you intelligently and that doesn't mean he is gay. The bible might be very clear but it is not the word of authority for everyone on earth. It is for Christians alone. That is why there is a separation between church and state since there are different beliefs and non beliefs.

Grow up and argue with some sense

zendy:


There is no double standard here. Like I said before, I believe that people are born gay. Using Africa as an example. We all know that a gay person in Africa is most likely to be ostracised, thrown in jail, beaten up and maybe even killed just for being gay. Why would a gay person risk all of this if the opposite sex could give him/her the same thing they are looking for with the same sex? If I was a gay man and a woman's vagina can give me the same thing a mans a$$ could give me, why would risk my life, my happiness and my freedom unnecessarily with another man? It makes no sense. The reason why there is no double standard here is that a bigamist, can choose not commit bigamy, a polygamist can choose not engage in that lifestyle but a gay person cannot choose not to be gay because they were born that way. I personally believe people are born gay. I am prepared to accept a gay guy the way he is as long as he accepts the fact that Im a straight guy who likes women.

I'm a Cathlolic and I stand by what the Pope said about gay people in 2013. The Pope said:

woodcook:



[s]Child I will take it that you are a Christian and if I recall correctly your religion does not encourage the sort of language you using and the last time I checked the same bible you are referring to would rather have you pray for me than insult me and wish yourself all sort of unspeakable things.

That the bible is very clear on it, are you saying since the bible is very clear on it anyone that fails to abide to it should be jailed? In that case what is the different between you as a Christian and ISS who have been busy chopping off peoples head because they refuse to share the same believe system?

From the way Christ lived His life and from the way He resolved issues that were brought before Him, I strongly doubt that Jesus Christ will approve that gay people should be send to jail for being gay or treated as a leaper or the scum of the society. Unless there is another 'evil' and 'unforgiving' and 'barbaric' side to His personality that you are aware of that was not in the bible?


The funny thing is that like I pointed out you don't have the mental capacity to think or made a logical statement in defense of your perceived position rather you decide to place curse upon yourself. When you don't have counter argument the smartest thing to do is to keep quiet rather than exposing yourself. My bad talking to you about being smart! [/s]

Yevgeny:


[s]Learn how to argue like a civilized person and stop throwing tantrums when you have nothing to say.

He was arguing with you intelligently and that doesn't mean he is gay. The bible might be very clear but it is not the word of authority for everyone on earth. It is for Christians alone. That is why there is a separation between church and state since there are different beliefs and non beliefs.

Grow up and argue with some sense[/s]

SovietBomber:


Go to hell.

SovietBomber:
Please I'd like to know your views/take on these issues:

1. What do you think about sexual relationships between parents and their children? It is still banned in the west - is it not a violation of their human rights if two consenting adults decide to have intimate relations?

2. Why is polygamy/polyandry still banned in the west? Is this not a violation of fundamental human rights? If consenting adults decide that a man can marry more than one wife and a woman can marry more that one man why is it banned in the west?

3. Where do you draw the line between morality and human rights?

I do not agree that gay relations should be criminalised but I agree that society should determine whether it is acceptable or not.

Waiting for your answers, please.

Tallesty1:
^^^Are they gays?