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The Real Meaning Of Allah by kasend(m): 4:02pm On Aug 03, 2015
Muslims become angry when they are confronted with this fact. But history is not on their side. Pre-Islamic literature has proved this." ( Who Is This Allah ?, G. J. O. Moshay, 1994, p 138) "But history establishes beyond the shadow of doubt that even the pagan Arabs, before Muhammad's time, knew their chief god by the name of Allah and even, in a sense, proclaimed his unity...Among the pagan Arabs this term denoted the chief god of their pantheon, the Kaaba, with its three hundred and sixty idols." ( The Moslem Doctrine of God , Samuel M. Zwemer 1905, p 24-25) In fact, he did not at first intend to establish a new religion, but rather to reform the belief in Allah which already existed, and to show what this belief truly signified and rightfully demanded . ( Mohammed: The man and his faith , Tor Andrae, 1936, Translated by Theophil Menzel, 1960, p13-30) The pre-Islamic origin of "Allah" 1. There is absolutely no question that Allah was worshipped by the pagan Arabs as one of many polytheistic gods. 2. Allah was worshipped in the Kabah at Mecca before Muhammad was born. Muhammad merely proclaimed a god the Meccans were already familiar with. The pagan Arabs never accused Muhammad of preaching a different Allah than the one they already worshipped. 3. Many scholars say "Allah" is derived from a compound Arabic word, AL + ILAH = Allah. "Ilah" in Arabic is "God" and "Al" in Arabic is a definite article like our word "the". So from an English equivalent "Allah" comes from "The + God". Others, like Arthur Jeffery say, "The common theory is that it is formed from ilah, the common word for a god, and the article al-; thus al-ilah, the god," becomes Allah, "God." This theory, however, is untenable. In fact, the name is one of the words borrowed into the language in pre-Islamic times from Aramaic." ( Islam: Muhammad and His Religion, Arthur Jeffery, 1958, p 85) 4. Although "Allah" has become known as the proper name for the Muslim god, Allah is not a name, but a descriptor that means literally, "the god". All pagan cultures have these generic terms that refer to their "top god" as "the god". In comparison to the perfect monotheism of Judaism and Christianity, "Allah" was originally no more a proper name for the Muslim God, than the word Hebrew "elohim" (god) or Greek "theos" (god) are proper names of the one true God of the Bible. "Jehovah" is the only revealed proper name for the "Elohim" of the Old Testament ( Ex 3:13; 6:3) and "Jesus" is the only revealed proper name of "Theos" in the New Testament. (Acts 4:12) Islam has no proper name for their god, but merely transformed, by universal use and confusion, the generic Allah into a proper name. So although today, Muslims use "Allah" as a proper name, it was never used this way originally. Allah, therefore is equivalent to "elohim" and "ho theos" but not "Jehovah" or "Jesus". Allah is not the name of the nameless Muslim God. However Muslims will claim that Allah is the name of God that corresponds to Jehovah. Both the Father and the Son are called "ho theos" (The God). Jesus is called "The God" many times in the New Testament: John 20:28; Heb 1:8. An important conclusion from this, is that the mere fact that "Allah" is equivalent to "elohim" and "ho theos" does not mean they are directly corresponded. It certainly doesn't prove Allah is the same as the God of the Old or New Testament. It does not prove that Muslim's worship the same God as Christians. If this correspondence proved the Muslim god was the same as the Christian God, then because pagan religions also have generics that correspond to "the god" (Allah), this correspondence would also prove that Allah is the same god as the Buddhist god, for Buddhists also refer to their god as "the god".

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Re: The Real Meaning Of Allah by Nobody: 4:19pm On Aug 03, 2015
Very interesting and insightful analysis, nice one OP. So on top all their noise islamist don't even know the name of the idol they worship grin allah=the god tongue

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Re: The Real Meaning Of Allah by An2elect2(f): 4:34pm On Aug 03, 2015
I just know their all@h is not God.

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Re: The Real Meaning Of Allah by Demmzy15(m): 5:01pm On Aug 03, 2015
What do Arab Christians and Jews call God? ! undecided

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Re: The Real Meaning Of Allah by Nobody: 5:19pm On Aug 03, 2015
Demmzy15:
What do Arab Christians and Jews call God? ! undecided

Dunce you just confirmed that allah is a generic name for a god amongst Arabs irrespective of religion just as god is used in the english language. It's not a name for God but a generic term that was used by pagan Arabs tongue

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Re: The Real Meaning Of Allah by BABAAGBALABA: 5:44pm On Aug 03, 2015
Jagoon:


Dunce you just confirmed that allah is a generic name for a god amongst Arabs irrespective of religion just as god is used in the english language. It's not a name for God but a generic term that was used by pagan Arabs tongue
just answer his question
Re: The Real Meaning Of Allah by Nobody: 6:11pm On Aug 03, 2015
BABAAGBALABA:
just answer his question

Obviously you are not very smart arab christians call god allah as a generic term same way different english speaking people use the generic term god iRrespective of religion

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Re: The Real Meaning Of Allah by Demmzy15(m): 6:40pm On Aug 03, 2015
Jagoon:


Dunce you just confirmed that allah is a generic name for a god amongst Arabs irrespective of religion just as god is used in the english language. It's not a name for God but a generic term that was used by pagan Arabs tongue
Sanitary Pad, if Allah is what Arab Christians and Jews call God, so what's the point of creating this useless thread?!

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Re: The Real Meaning Of Allah by Nobody: 6:59pm On Aug 03, 2015
Demmzy15:

Sanitary Pad, if Allah is what Arab Christians and Jews call God, so what's the point of creating this useless thread?!

Dunce it means allah is not God's name but a generic term/title all Arabs call god whether they are christian, pagan or muslim. God's declared name is Yahweh tongue
Re: The Real Meaning Of Allah by Demmzy15(m): 7:10pm On Aug 03, 2015
Jagoon:


Dunce it means allah is not God's name but a generic term/title all Arabs call god whether they are christian, pagan or muslim. God's declared name is Yahweh tongue
To you it's Yahweh, to me it's Allah. Why must you criticize our way of calling God?! Better face your business because you can't force your ideology on us! Dumbness is just incurable, different languages call God different names. French call him "Dieu" in the Bible, yorubas call him "Olurun" or "Oluwa", Arabs call him "Allah" in both the Qur'an and Bible. So what's your stress actually?

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Re: The Real Meaning Of Allah by Nobody: 7:32pm On Aug 03, 2015
Demmzy15:

To you it's Yahweh, to me it's Allah. Why must you criticize our way of calling God?! Better face your business because you can't force your ideology on us! Dumbness is just incurable, different languages call God different names. French call him "Dieu" in the Bible, yorubas call him "Olurun" or "Oluwa", Arabs call him "Allah" in both the Qur'an and Bible. So what's your stress actually?

You are so dumb that you still don't get it, allah is simply the arabic title for god which as been in use before mohamed developed his version of the arabic pagan religions. In Hebrew gods are called elohims the same way Arabs call their gods allah but the hebrews have a separate name for the almighty and this name is Yahweh not some generic allah pagans called their gods before mohammed started his own racket.

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Re: The Real Meaning Of Allah by BABAAGBALABA: 8:59pm On Aug 03, 2015
Jagoon:


You are so dumb that you still don't get it, allah is simply the arabic title for god which as been in use before mohamed developed his version of the arabic pagan religions. In Hebrew gods are called elohims the same way Arabs call their gods allah but the hebrews have a separate name for the almighty and this name is Yahweh not some generic allah pagans called their gods before mohammed started his own racket.
nigga chillax, u don't even know what ur saying
Re: The Real Meaning Of Allah by jcross19: 10:28pm On Aug 03, 2015
BABAAGBALABA:
nigga chillax, u don't even know what ur saying
he knows what is saying and this is what he meant ; that allah is blood sucking demon. That allah has no name the way and is generic name like "god"of iron,wood,sex,thunder or win . Do you get it.

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Re: The Real Meaning Of Allah by ymdo(m): 10:48pm On Aug 03, 2015
jcross19:
he knows what is saying and this is what he meant ; that allah is blood sucking demon. That allah has no name the way and is generic name like "god"of iron,wood,sex,thunder or win . Do you get it.
What will you called a God whom you insist killed his son to save you? A blood spitting demon?

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Re: The Real Meaning Of Allah by ymdo(m): 10:51pm On Aug 03, 2015
jcross19:
he knows what is saying and this is what he meant ; that allah is blood sucking demon. That allah has no name the way and is generic name like "god"of iron,wood,sex,thunder or win . Do you get it.
What will you called a God whom you insist killed his son to save you? A blood spitting demon? Remove the mucus in your eyes first before trying to help others
Re: The Real Meaning Of Allah by abduljabbar4(m): 3:05am On Aug 04, 2015
jcross19:
he knows what is saying and this is what he meant ; that allah is blood sucking demon. That allah has no name the way and is generic name like "god"of iron,wood,sex,thunder or win . Do you get it.
I would love to see your face in hell.
Re: The Real Meaning Of Allah by abduljabbar4(m): 3:07am On Aug 04, 2015
Jagoon:


You are so dumb that you still don't get it, allah is simply the arabic title for god which as been in use before mohamed developed his version of the arabic pagan religions. In Hebrew gods are called elohims the same way Arabs call their gods allah but the hebrews have a separate name for the almighty and this name is Yahweh not some generic allah pagans called their gods before mohammed started his own racket.
This fool doesnt even know what he is saying. Dumb bastard

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Re: The Real Meaning Of Allah by abduljabbar4(m): 3:12am On Aug 04, 2015
jcross19:
he knows what is saying and this is what he meant ; that allah is blood sucking demon. That allah has no name the way and is generic name like "god"of iron,wood,sex,thunder or win . Do you get it.
What of ur useless non existing toy(god) whom you claimed to have killed his son to save you? Dreaming liars. If Jesus is lord because he had no father, what of Adam who had no father or mother? Keep decieving yourselves

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Re: The Real Meaning Of Allah by jcross19: 4:04am On Aug 04, 2015
abduljabbar4:

I would love to see your face in hell.
can you see that? The truth is that you can't even see me there not talk of hell. Terrorism is in your blood and if we should check you are with either knife or dynamite. No salvation in islam except jesus.

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Re: The Real Meaning Of Allah by jcross19: 4:10am On Aug 04, 2015
abduljabbar4:

What of ur useless non existing toy(god) whom you claimed to have killed his son to save you? Dreaming liars. If Jesus is lord because he had no father, what of Adam who had no father or mother? Keep decieving yourselves
in HIS name all your jinns disappear, in HIS name all the malaika bow before HIM. Our God is not a toy and we don't have to carry knives , dynamites or any form of weapon to defend HIS name and HIS honour. So, get the fact we know who is serving toy, toothless and useless allah . If allah is powerful as you claimed let him/her defend his/herself.

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Re: The Real Meaning Of Allah by kasend(m): 7:20am On Aug 04, 2015
guy I think the Muslims should go online and do further research on their so called allah . it will shock you that its the moon these fellas are worshiping

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Re: The Real Meaning Of Allah by kasend(m): 7:23am On Aug 04, 2015
my advice to the Muslims received Jesus Christ now for the forgiveness of your sins, if you want to make heaven.

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Re: The Real Meaning Of Allah by WailingWailer01(m): 7:31am On Aug 04, 2015
I hate muslims
Re: The Real Meaning Of Allah by Nobody: 7:45am On Aug 04, 2015
WailingWailer01:
I hate muslims

Hate the religion, don't hate the people else you will be just like them.

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Re: The Real Meaning Of Allah by Demmzy15(m): 11:02am On Aug 04, 2015
Jagoon:


You are so dumb that you still don't get it, allah is simply the arabic title for god which as been in use before mohamed developed his version of the arabic pagan religions. In Hebrew gods are called elohims the same way Arabs call their gods allah but the hebrews have a separate name for the almighty and this name is Yahweh not some generic allah pagans called their gods before mohammed started his own racket.
What's your problem with Arabs calling God whatever they won't to? Last time I remember there's a tribe that call God with the meaning "One who doesn't have an anus". That's what they call him, you can't impose your ideology on others. We are Yorubas, Arabs, Hausa not Hebrews, if you want to adopt Hebrew it's no one problem but you can't force Yahweh on others. What's amazing is that if Muslims call God Yahweh, you'll still be the same hypocrites shouting "plagiarism". You better think before you type fa

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Re: The Real Meaning Of Allah by Demmzy15(m): 11:19am On Aug 04, 2015
WailingWailer01:
I hate muslims
grin

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Re: The Real Meaning Of Allah by Nobody: 11:48am On Aug 04, 2015
Demmzy15:

What's your problem with Arabs calling God whatever they won't to? Last time I remember there's a tribe that call God with the meaning "One who doesn't have an anus". That's what they call him, you can't impose your ideology on others. We are Yorubas, Arabs, Hausa not Hebrews, if you want to adopt Hebrew it's no one problem but you can't force Yahweh on others. What's amazing is that if Muslims call God Yahweh, you'll still be the same hypocrites shouting "plagiarism". You better think before you type fa

Gosh this guy is so daft, I can't believe it. The term god is an adjective just like allah is an adjective and elohim is an adjective. But is clear from scriptures that Yahweh is a noun. If you still don't get it, go suck a lemon tongue
Re: The Real Meaning Of Allah by BABAAGBALABA: 12:26pm On Aug 04, 2015
Jagoon:


Gosh this guy is so daft, I can't believe it. The term god is an adjective just like allah is an adjective and elohim is an adjective. But is clear from scriptures that Yahweh is a name. If you still don't get it, go suck a lemon tongue
what are u even saying sef
Re: The Real Meaning Of Allah by Demmzy15(m): 12:33pm On Aug 04, 2015
Jagoon:


Gosh this guy is so daft, I can't believe it. The term god is an adjective just like allah is an adjective and elohim is an adjective. But is clear from scriptures that Yahweh is a name. If you still don't get it, go suck a lemon tongue
See pot calling kettle black, indomie brain, what's your stress with Islam's way of calling God?! Must we follow your way, Allah has other names which reaches up to 99. Better face front o
Re: The Real Meaning Of Allah by Samunique(m): 1:30pm On Aug 04, 2015
Demmzy15:

See pot calling kettle black, indomie brain, what's your stress with Islam's way of calling God?! Must we follow your way, Allah has other names which reaches up to 99. Better face front o
But they are all still TITLES not his real name.

Just as Christian GOD has many titles, but His real name is YHWH, Yahweh , 'yah' "Jah" Jehovah which He revealed to moses . My name is Yahweh. Exodus 6:3.

Even Abraham did not know Him by His real name, he knew Him only as Elohim And Adonai , meaning the Lord God Almighty, which is also generic.

So try to understand the point raised in the OP, that Allah is no name, it's just a title like when one mentions Elohim or Adonai .
Re: The Real Meaning Of Allah by Nobody: 1:30pm On Aug 04, 2015
Demmzy15:

See pot calling kettle black, indomie brain, what's your stress with Islam's way of calling God?! Must we follow your way, Allah has other names which reaches up to 99. Better face front o

Yeah we know satan is one of his names tongue
Re: The Real Meaning Of Allah by mustymatic(m): 2:34pm On Aug 04, 2015
Jagoon:


Obviously you are not very smart arab christians call god allah as a generic term same way different english speaking people use the generic term god iRrespective of religion

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They copied it. It is Islamic. Period

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