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Can Nigeria Army Fight Two Wars At The Same Time? Biafra and ... by ibadantiti(f): 1:57pm On Aug 23, 2015
Can Nigeria Army fight two wars at the same time? The war of terrorism with Boko Harm (which some scholars believed to be a secessionist group since they want to control the territory they have captioned) and Biafra secessionist .The renew agitation from the latter has increase geometrical especially from the teeming youth who are dissatisfied with the Nigeria system. Lest we should not forget other fronts which are not pleased with the Nigeria and their voices are not heard as much as the two above. In military terminology, a two-front war is a war in which fighting takes place on two geographically separate fronts (North and South South East as in Nigeria). It is usually executed by two or more separate forces simultaneously or nearly simultaneously, in the hope that their opponent will be forced to split their fighting force to deal with both threats, therefore reducing their odds of success.
The Nigeria Government should of matter of urgency design an amicable means on issue of Biafra if not, an arm struggle will spell doom both the rich, poor, old, young brave major cites and the cowards tribes.
Can Nigeria Army Fight two wars at the same time? NO!

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Re: Can Nigeria Army Fight Two Wars At The Same Time? Biafra and ... by dunsman(f): 1:59pm On Aug 23, 2015
Ask buratai burantashi, or ask osho since he is Jack of all trade, or ask d gold digger wife

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Re: Can Nigeria Army Fight Two Wars At The Same Time? Biafra and ... by Nobody: 2:00pm On Aug 23, 2015
Biafra issue na case of haters trying to make dis administration ungoverened, but for the bh wahala ma God hand e dey.. We don't av to raise Biafra again, let's unite my people
Re: Can Nigeria Army Fight Two Wars At The Same Time? Biafra and ... by airsaylongcon: 2:06pm On Aug 23, 2015
adeekiti:
Biafra issue na case of haters trying to make dis administration ungoverened , but for the bh wahala ma God hand e dey.. We don't av to raise Biafra again, let's unite my people

Boko Haram sef was instituted to disgovern the previous administration. Do me I do you God nor dey vex
Re: Can Nigeria Army Fight Two Wars At The Same Time? Biafra and ... by Teeboy22(m): 2:10pm On Aug 23, 2015
grin Wo bobo...
wayray lo ba de grin
Re: Can Nigeria Army Fight Two Wars At The Same Time? Biafra and ... by Abugab(m): 2:10pm On Aug 23, 2015
Biafra is not going to war anymore as no Igbo person wants war again. The civil war experience still lingers and I am sure no one wants that again as it could be worse. Its only a young generation who are preaching this hate and they really don't know what went down during the civil war and are not listening to the words of advice from the elders.
On BH, I am sure Nigeria will overcome and everything put behind us and likely, those behind exposed.
We are better together than going desperate ways.
God bless a united Nigeria.
Re: Can Nigeria Army Fight Two Wars At The Same Time? Biafra and ... by Mansongx(m): 2:52pm On Aug 23, 2015
Which do you think among them is more formidable as a fighting force? Aha now you know.

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Re: Can Nigeria Army Fight Two Wars At The Same Time? Biafra and ... by Nobody: 3:03pm On Aug 23, 2015
I have noticed one thing lately, everyone now takes BIAFRA seriously and is preaching peace..... Ha ha ha well, we biafrans want a peaceful seccesssion until 31/12/2015 then we will start our own ARMS struggle. Trust me, our weapons no be here o, with support from over 88 countries including spain and sweden ha ha the zoo will lose big time. Biafra will stand, even you guys admit it. Meanwhile, our TV hits airwaves tomorrow we will begin live streaming tomorrow being monday! Happy viewing in advance.

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Re: Can Nigeria Army Fight Two Wars At The Same Time? Biafra and ... by Nobody: 3:04pm On Aug 23, 2015
Why South South Nations Won't Join Biafra. South South nations will rather form thier Own Confederation or seperate Nations

Igbo are using the support they gave to Jonathan in 2015 election as blackmail to convert Niger delta struggle to Biafra. This deception will not work. They only supported Jonathan because they got alot of appointments under Jonathan. They are just selfish and greedy people. Niger Delta Struggle is completely different from Biafra agitation. Igbo supported Obasanjo against thier own son and Hero Ojukwu in 2003 election, they should go and claim yoruba instead.

As far as I am concern IGBO, YORUBA and HAUSA are all benefitting from the current system. Afterall an IGBO man Gen Agunyi Ironsi created the Unitary System for Nigeria in 1966 that we are complaining against today. When Isaac Adaka Boro wanted to form Ijaw Nation Republic in 1966 it was Igbo Head of State Gen Agunyi Ironsi that fought him with a 12 days war.

The Igbo claim to be one of us because some south south states were part of the old Eastern region. First of all, eastern region was created by Nigeria for Nigeria convenience. It was not a decision of the nationalities that made up the old eastern region. Secondly before most people forget, today edo and delta state were never at anytime part of eastern region. edo and delta were first Western region later became Midwestern region, then change to Bendel state before becoming edo and delta state today. some tribes speak Yoruba in edo and delta state. why is Yoruba not claiming edo and delta state the way Igbo is claiming rivers and delta states because some people speak ibo in those states?

Igbo may have succeeded in brainwashing some south south people that they are one of us, it is a big lie. They may have succeeded in brainwashing some of us that only hausa and Yoruba is the problem of south south, it is a big lie. They are the same as far as I am concern.

The problem with Igbo is greed, self-entitlement and born to rule, control and exploit mentality. Qatar is smaller than Bayelsa in Population and half d size of Bayelsa state by landmass. Bayelsa is four times the size of Sigapore. if Qatar and Sigapore can be a country, why cant we have an Ijaw nation as a country? Do u think Ijaw people dont want to be like qatar and enjoy thier oil alone like Qatar does? Note: Bayelsa State is d smallest state in the south south by population and second to the last by landmass!!


Below is the size of south south states and south east states. South South is almost 3times the size of south East.
Yet the population of South east is almost 80% of south south population base on 2006 census. But by the time you add igbo who are currently leaving outside south east, you will discover that thier population is more than all the south south put together. More than 90% of the resources (oil, gas, limestones,etc) are in the south south. The whole of South East is landlock with no direct access to the sea or atlantic ocean. but almost all the south south states have direct assess to the sea and atlantic ocean. Some we say they have River Niger. River Niger is not a sea or an ocean for big Ships.

Tell me why South South Nations will want to form a country with south east if they have a choice ? all south east will bring to the table is population and domination? The total oil production from south east is not up to 10% of south south oil production!

If you are the leader of south south nations will you advice them to form a country with south east if they have the option of forming their own country alone? give a sincere answer?

As far as I am concern, as unbrainwashed south south , there is no difference between the Igbo, Yoruba and Hausa. To me, these are three major tribe struggling and fighting for Supiriority. Whenever any of the three is loosing, he shout Marginalization.

During Jonathan govt, the Igbos were gaining and were in control and were happy. The Yoruba were losing and were shouting Marginalization. The hausa/fulani were not happy because they were not fully in control. For the North we can slightly understand because in the 16years of democracy (May 1999 to May 2015) the south ruled 13.3years while the North had just 2.7years

The Igbo don't love south south more than the hausa or Yoruba love us. All the three tribe are all struggling for the control of south south oil. None of the three is better than the other as far as we south south are concern.

The only place south south nationalities agree with Igbo is Nigeria should divide. However while south south clamour for succession is base on lack of true fiscal Federalism, on the other hand, igbo clamour for succession is base on IGBO BORN TO RULE, CONTROL AND EXPLOIT MENTALITY. Igbo make noise and claim d north have born to rule mentality because of Sokoto State former motto of born to rule which they have change. The People with the true born to rule mentality are d Igbo. it is because they are not having thier way that they are complaining and making all d noise all over Nigeria.

But how and why Nigeria will and should divide, what we want and what they want is as different as d distance of the earth to d moon.

South south want thier own freedom. we will support Biafra as Igbo only nation while they should support us to form our own nation or nations. But trying to add us as an appendage to Biafra will never happen.

If south south join Biafra, our individual identities will be wiped out in less than 50years. They will convert every south south nationality to Igbo. And they will so much take charge of the oil and resources with reckless abandon without any regard to d minorities.

LET EVERYONE FORMS HIS OWN NATION. SOUTH SOUTH NATIONS DONT WANT IGBO, YORUBA OR HAUSA IN THIER NATION. WE DONT WANT ANY DOMINANT TRIBE TO CONTROL US IF OR WHEN NIGERIA DIVIDE.

They will argue that there are some igbo in rivers state, delta state and edo state. As far as i am concern Igbo speaking people in south south will join Niger delta republic or confederation. Their are Hausa people in Niger, there are Yoruba people in Benin Republic and Togo. Does that make those yoruba and hausa speaking people in those countries Nigerians?

The south south nationalities can form a confederation with United Arab Emirate template, where seven different nationalities came together to form a confederation with each nationality having some form of autonomy.

if the south east want to join the confederation they can join. We can't leave nigeria and go and form another normal single country were there is a dominant tribe. That will be moving from frying pan to fire.

Just like the United Ararb emirate asked qatar and behrain to join them, but qatar and behrain choose to form thier individual countries.

What Biafra represent is a single country with a powerful centre where a dominant tribe can control. South south dont want that. If we must fight or struggle for succession, we need a new name like "United State of niger delta" or any other name which clearly shows a union rather than a single country.

We need to set the record straight before south south nations make the mistake of south Sudan. It is more than Four years south sudan left
sudan to form thier country. Since that time south sudan has been in War while North Sudan enjoy peace. This was because nations in
south sudan came together to form a single country without ensuring that thier difference in ethnicity was fully discuss. Some
part of south sudan are now feeling marginalized. That is exactly what will happen if Igbo succeed in forcing south south nations into
Biafra. That so called Biafra wont have peace. It will be another Somalia!!!!

For peace to rain let Igbo form Biafra from the Five south east state and let the the six states in south south form a confederation or seperate nations. Anything outside this will never work.

I do not hate Igbo people. Many of my friends are Igbo. I only hate thier deceit and greed. what is good for the goose is good for the gander.
What we dont want is a dominant tribe simple. If south south join Biafra, that country will be 60% Igbo. How do you think other minorities can compete in that kind of country? Whether we like it or not we both know that Igbo are not diplomatic people by nature. That will lead to complete extinction of other tribe. in less than 50years they will make the whole Biafra Ibo without any consideration.

I dont hate Igbo. But i hate when i know the Biafra they seek is a Biafra with current south south as an appendage to it.
Why cant they support our freedom, and we will support thier freedom. Why do igbo make it look like it is wrong for Niger Delta people to seek thier own freedom outside Biafra? In biafra current south south minority will be like conquered people. God forbid that to happen.

a quote from Isaac Adaka Boro Autobiography (wriiten himself). Read Chapter 5 - Campus Politics
http://www.adakaboro.org/the12dayrev/chapter-5-campus-politics.
This was the campaign statement of his opponent for UNN SUG presidency:
"My opponent, Ejiogu, took the floor when I had finished, and what did he say? "Ladies and gentleman, this is a crucial time in Nigeria when we should not allow a vocal minority to rule an obvious majority.
These words still ring in my memory because, as my opponent put it, they are crucial not only to me but to my people, the Ijaws. Most of the alien students walked out of the hall and it seemed as if a spell was cast on the atmosphere. The campaigns ended solemnly and the result of the election was again one way. Ejiogu won with his majority. The last minute strategy. A Cameroonian friend of mine, John Ngole, promptly resigned his secretaryship of the Historical Society in protest."

I am very sure that Nigeria will divide faster if Igbo seek Biafra with 5 south east state alone and Niger delta republic seek a country with the 6 South south states alone at the same time. Once the Hausa and Yoruba sees that Igbo are supporting a Niger Delta republic separate from Biafra, they will see it as true struggle. But if the struggle is about Biafra with south south in it, where Igbo will gain south south resources with Yoruba and Hausa loosing out, I bet you until South South oil finishes, Nigeria wont divide.

We don't need to form a single country with Igbo, we can seek for our separate nation on two front simultaneously but not on one front.
What we need is cooperation from Igbo not togetherness with Igbo. If they truly want to leave Nigeria and liberate Niger delta people from dominant tribes, they should support us to form our nation as they form thiers. I bet you when that happen, the struggle will be half won.

The Ojukwu Biafra was Igbo dream not Ijaw, Esan, Urhobo, Itsekiri, Ikwerre, ogoni, ibibio, etc dream.

In summary, my point is if Nigeria will divide peacefully by United Nations referendum, south south will not join Biafra. South South will form its own nation/nations. The only way south south and south east will form a single country like Biafra is if Nigeria divide by War because population will be important in size of Army.

My Igbo neighbour may not like this submission, but it is the bitter truth
Re: Can Nigeria Army Fight Two Wars At The Same Time? Biafra and ... by kenny987(f): 3:10pm On Aug 23, 2015
Abugab:
Biafra is not going to war anymore as no Igbo person wants war again. The civil war experience still lingers and I am sure no one wants that again as it could be worse. Its only a young generation who are preaching this hate and they really don't know what went down during the civil war and are not listening to the words of advice from the elders.
On BH, I am sure Nigeria will overcome and everything put behind us and likely, those behind exposed.
We are better together than going desperate ways.
God bless a united Nigeria.

True we are better as a united Nigeria but until the terms of this unity are discussed and agreed upon this current system will continue to engender agitations. We are a combination of many nations and a regional system is the best way for these regions to exercise their rights to be recognised as such whilst under a united Nigeria.
I am certain that the call for separation will simmer down once regions or d geopolitical zones are recognised, released to function as autonomous regions while the centre takes care of external issues like defence, foreign relations and so on. Core developmental issues like education, health, internal security and resource development should be dealt with at regional levels.

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Re: Can Nigeria Army Fight Two Wars At The Same Time? Biafra and ... by flyingsnail(f): 3:24pm On Aug 23, 2015
The cowards tribes.

Re: Can Nigeria Army Fight Two Wars At The Same Time? Biafra and ... by Abugab(m): 3:42pm On Aug 23, 2015
kenny987:


True we are better as a united Nigeria but until the terms of this unity are discussed and agreed upon this current system will continue to engender agitations. We are a combination of many nations and a regional system is the best way for these regions to exercise their rights to be recognised as such whilst under a united Nigeria.
I am certain that the call for separation will simmer down once regions or d geopolitical zones are recognised, released to function as autonomous regions while the centre takes care of external issues like defence, foreign relations and so on. Core developmental issues like education, health, internal security and resource development should be dealt with at regional levels.

You are absolutely right.
All federating units must have a social contract that is mutually consented.
Re: Can Nigeria Army Fight Two Wars At The Same Time? Biafra and ... by disumusa: 4:09pm On Aug 23, 2015
ibadantiti:
Can Nigeria Army fight two wars at the same time? The war of terrorism with Boko Harm (which some scholars believed to be a secessionist group since they want to control the territory they have captioned) and Biafra secessionist .The renew agitation from the latter has increase geometrical especially from the teeming youth who are dissatisfied with the Nigeria system. Lest we should not forget other fronts which are not pleased with the Nigeria and their voices are not heard as much as the two above. In military terminology, a two-front war is a war in which fighting takes place on two geographically separate fronts (North and South South East as in Nigeria). It is usually executed by two or more separate forces simultaneously or nearly simultaneously, in the hope that their opponent will be forced to split their fighting force to deal with both threats, therefore reducing their odds of success.
The Nigeria Government should of matter of urgency design an amicable means on issue of Biafra if not, an arm struggle will spell doom both the rich, poor, old, young brave major cites and the cowards tribes.
Can Nigeria Army Fight two wars at the same time? NO!
biafra, just trike and se how it will look like. Nonsense
Re: Can Nigeria Army Fight Two Wars At The Same Time? Biafra and ... by HungerBAD: 4:10pm On Aug 23, 2015
kenny987:


True we are better as a united Nigeria but until the terms of this unity are discussed and agreed upon this current system will continue to engender agitations. We are a combination of many nations and a regional system is the best way for these regions to exercise their rights to be recognised as such whilst under a united Nigeria.
I am certain that the call for separation will simmer down once regions or d geopolitical zones are recognised, released to function as autonomous regions while the centre takes care of external issues like defence, foreign relations and so on. Core developmental issues like education, health, internal security and resource development should be dealt with at regional levels.

Geopolitical Zones are recognized? Autonomous functions released to the Regions? are you serious? are the Zones not recognized? our constitution does not grant autonomous powers to any region.

Moreover, it will be very dangerous to grant any kind of power to the East.

Because, by the time other regions will be busy building a United Nigeria, the East will be busy building another rounds of "Ogbunigwe" to start the Nigeria second Civil War.

After the Second World War, the American's occupied and are still occupying some parts of Germany and Japan, with their Military Bases, so as to keep an eye on them. The East is a place we all should keep a close eye on.

You, i have written earlier is a trouble maker, and i am seriously puzzled to how i have not noticed you before on Nairaland with the way you write.

You will be worth keeping an eye on.

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Re: Can Nigeria Army Fight Two Wars At The Same Time? Biafra and ... by yorubatic: 4:19pm On Aug 23, 2015
We should support the actualization of odua republic...we can't remain cowards in the eye of the ibos . ..I prefer sophisticated and progressive Odu'a republic than this nigeria. ..

Hausa/Fulani are not our kins...they should learn to fight for their own war and achieve their arewa republic. .

.....yorubas should concentrate their energy on the actualization of odua republic instead of mocking the brave biafrans. ..it's a great feat to withstand a combined efforts of yorubas and Hausa/Fulani plus the western powers....I don't think any other nigerian ethnic group can do that. ..
Re: Can Nigeria Army Fight Two Wars At The Same Time? Biafra and ... by huptin(m): 4:53pm On Aug 23, 2015
This Biafra thingy wont lead to war, the noise is only on the internet, out there nobody cares, it is a noise coming from the least relevant region that contributes virtually nothing to the nation's economy, the worse that can happen is that the region will turn to another North east with IDP camps every where.
Re: Can Nigeria Army Fight Two Wars At The Same Time? Biafra and ... by kenny987(f): 9:15pm On Aug 23, 2015
HungerBAD:


Geopolitical Zones are recognized? Autonomous functions released to the Regions? are you serious? are the Zones not recognized? our constitution does not grant autonomous powers to any region.

Moreover, it will be very dangerous to grant any kind of power to the East.

Because, by the time other regions will be busy building a United Nigeria, the East will be busy building another rounds of "Ogbunigwe" to start the Nigeria second Civil War.

After the Second World War, the American's occupied and are still occupying some parts of Germany and Japan, with their Military Bases, so as to keep an eye on them. The East is a place we all should keep a close eye on.

You, i have written earlier is a trouble maker, and i am seriously puzzled to how i have not noticed you before on Nairaland with the way you write.

You will be worth keeping an eye on.

I also asked you in the other post how you arrived at the conclusion that I am a trouble maker but you are yet to explain how. All you can do is attach labels without an explanation or justification and that in itself reduces your labeling to naught.

Now, by recognition of geopolitical zones I mean constitutional recognition. Currently they are used for administrative convenience and not detailed by law which everyone would be bound by. The constitution does not recognise or grant autonomous powers to any region and that is what any sound Nigerian who understands the current problems of governance in this country is advocating for. It is called re-structuring and devolution of powers. You even dare to bring the US into this discourse, saying that they maintain military bases in Japan and Germany to 'keep their eyes on them' and I ask you, what is the system of government practised in the US? What is it called the United States for? What is the UK called the United Kingdom for? It is because respective regions and states maintain their distinct and separate identities/autonomy while under a common name and government! The current system we run is one that stifles growth and potentials. This is the primary reason why governors can sit on their arses with no innovative ideas to generate funds or develop their regions because they know that each month Abuja will dole out their monthly stipends. At the end of the day, the unnecessary connection to the central government makes it possible for citizens to blame successive Presidents for non-development of their areas even where it is the responsibility of the governor.

Take the current crises in the Middle belt states (Plateau and Benue specifically) where u have unabated blood shed/loss of lives and properties among cattle rearers (Hausa/Fulani) and the farmers (indigenes). Still a governor who is supposedly Chief Security Officer of his state cannot do anything beyond 'platitudes and condemnation' because policing/security are the exclusive reserve of the FG. Even where the Governor can identify loopholes he cannot do much if an 'order from above' or 'body language' dictates otherwise. This is just one example that tells you that it is time to cut the apron strings! Imagine a situation where the President has a grouse or some kind of hatred for the a particular state or region or gives tacit support to one group over the other, what do u think will happen? He will very easily influence the posting of Police officers and security personnel that will do his bidding to the detriment of the other and this 'Federal' system supports that completely!

Coming to the East, how can you sit there and say the East is a place to keep an eye on? For what? As a conquered region/people that cannot decide what to do for themselves and chart their course for development or what? Dangerous to grant any kind of power to the East? Really?!
It is that overbearing mentality and presence that reverberates through this lopsided union we currently operate. Nobody likes war or fight! The Igbo man loves peace as much as any other person because if nothing else, his business and hustle will go well and he will make his money and look after his people. First, the Eastern/Igbo region is founded on a con-federal system. Power is not centered in one figure of authority as is obtainable in the North and S/W where the Emirs and Obas function as demigods. Rather clans and families have their representatives that make up the council of chiefs or elders. The Igwe will not take a decision until these family heads are in agreement or convinced that a step being proposed is the right one. The Igbo man is wired to go for what he needs because he is an authority unto himself at any level so naturally this current system of governance sticks in his craw. The agitation for a regional system of government will continue to sound loud and clear and you should know that the East is not alone in this. The alternative to this is total separation or secession.

The regions need to be autonomous in order to exercise control over their resources and develop at their pace. Saying the East will be developing ogbunigwe rather than working towards a united Nigeria is tantamount to pre-empting them and calling them unpatriotic. You have no leg to stand on in that guise because there is no one more committed to the Nigerian project than the Igbo man. You see them spread out everywhere because they are prepared to take chances anywhere, blend in and excel. There are criminals and ne'er-do-wells spread out among all tribes so no one is more righteous than the other.

I will be worth keeping an eye on...yeah, u do that cos I will certainly give u all the dosages of truth and objectivity that you have failed to see all along. Good thing your eyes have opened now and you have 'noticed' me.

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Re: Can Nigeria Army Fight Two Wars At The Same Time? Biafra and ... by size40: 10:00pm On Aug 23, 2015
Txonyi:
I have noticed one thing lately, everyone now takes BIAFRA seriously and is preaching peace..... Ha ha ha well, we biafrans want a peaceful seccesssion until 31/12/2015 then we will start our own ARMS struggle. Trust me, our weapons no be here o, with support from over 88 countries including spain and sweden ha ha the zoo will lose big time. Biafra will stand, even you guys admit it. Meanwhile, our TV hits airwaves tomorrow we will begin live streaming tomorrow being monday! Happy viewing in advance.
Imagine some kids like u whose parents never allowed to come out to vote during last election due to fear and the violent nature of our election is talking about war. U people should keep dreaming. If the oil in my south-south gets finished today, will u people talk about Biafra again? The answer is NO. That's why those of us from d south-south will never never support Biafra.
Re: Can Nigeria Army Fight Two Wars At The Same Time? Biafra and ... by size40: 10:12pm On Aug 23, 2015
Abugab:


You are absolutely right.
All federating units must have a social contract that is mutually consented.
Whether we form a true federal system or a confederation or whatever system, the Igbos will still look for who or region to attach themselves to as they have been doing since independence till date on we the people of south-south region. How can a region looking for separation hinge their hope on another region? The only thing that will satisfy the Igbos is the seat of the President of Nigeria which only God in heaven knows when or if they will ever seat there again.

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Re: Can Nigeria Army Fight Two Wars At The Same Time? Biafra and ... by ibadantiti(f): 6:10pm On Sep 07, 2015
The ZOO must fall
Re: Can Nigeria Army Fight Two Wars At The Same Time? Biafra and ... by simpleseyi: 7:01pm On Sep 07, 2015
Please dont insult Boho Haram by comparing them to Biafra. Boko Haram held the country hostage throughout the unfortunate 6 miserable years of Goatluck Jonascam's rule while the coward Biafrauds were humiliated, destroyed and annihilated in just 30 months and they are still licking the wounds and cursing their forefathers 45 years after.

If Biafra start another senseless war, you shall all be shot with AK-47, survivors will be reshot with AK-49, the Nigerian Army shall kill you all and make sure your children never grow. Nigerian Army shall completely wipe out the Nigeria prodigal Jews from Africa map once and for all.

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