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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Timtol(m): 9:48am On Oct 23, 2019
darenyx:


Lol.. people change
Chai! True! angry
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Timtol(m): 9:49am On Oct 23, 2019
topsy23:


This is serious!!!
Honestly! angry
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by odelspaceng: 10:47am On Oct 23, 2019
50*40 feet u mean is the same as 15mx12m.if right standard re to be set with the right setbacks u may just have 9m by 9m to play with manageably..which can give u 3bedroom bungalow with the living dining Nd kitchen/a 4bedroom duplex by cantilevering the first floor slab
Nd with 3carparks for the two ....

But if u re not to follow the standard ...that means y not taking government approval nd all....u can get more than what is stated above...

The cos can not be given accurately cos u ll need an architect plan to kno how the design is Nd also the finished if the design matters a lot cos that will influence your cost to a large extent ....


Odelspace&ass.
We design Nd build.
Email - odelspaceng@gmail.com
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 1:50pm On Oct 23, 2019
adanny01:


I think you are missing the point. Let me try again.

The title Engineer is found in several professions. This is not just a Nigerian issue. Yes, Nigerians give undue recognition to titles but it doesn't mean we should use those titles anyhow. I have worked with Europeans who have never refer to themselves as Engineers as the title is being used in Nigeria but these guys have 40-60yrs professional experience. In their country, a Bachelor's degree is called a Diploma. Their profession is still Engineering and they are qualified Engineers.

All these being said, if you as an Engr wish to use the Title Engr instead of Mr. you need the law to back you up. An artisan cannot use that title unless he is qualified and the law gives him the title.

Now to analogies.
A law graduate is a lawyer but a law graduate called to bar is a Barrister! A lawyer can never be a Barrister without the bar (law) that gives him the right to bear the title.
A medical school graduate is not a Doctor until he has appropriately taken the oat.
A Professor is a professional rank and the title can only be used when the senate of awarding institution confers the title.
A person elected to the Senate cannot be called a Senator until he is sworn to office.
An Engineering school graduate is not an engineer until the title awarding body appropriately gives him the certification to bear the title.

Every other Title that any person can bear before his name has to be given by law.

You are in the UK and I believe you should be privy to how a person can earn the tilte Sir or Lord. Can anyone by himself award such title?

An Engineer is a title and has to be awarded by an instrument of the law. Therefore there are rules on who is qualified and who is not in every single title you can name.
I was quoting you from what you said upstairs nothing in that definition suggest your explanation as above.I will say this o nce again, the problems of Nigerians in Nigeria is we dwell 2much on certificates rather than the profession.Look Im not alian to the Nigerian Education system after all I did my 1st degree in Nigeria and only God helped us.Down in the west we learn everyday and train on the JOB
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noun
plural noun: engineers

1.
a person who designs, builds, or maintains engines, machines, or structures.
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3.
a skilful contriver or originator of something.
"the prime engineer of the approach"

verb
3rd person present: engineers

1.
design and build (a machine or structure).
"the men who engineered the tunnel"
modify (an organism) by manipulating its genetic material.
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2.
skilfully arrange for (something) to occur.
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A degree is often seen as a prerequisite to being an engineer. But, is it possible to become an engineer without an engineering degree?
Trevor English
By Trevor English
February 25, 2017
Can You Become an Engineer Without an Engineering Degree?
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Engineering is a time-old field that used to require years of apprenticeship in the industry but now requires years of school just to become licensed. However, could you become an engineer without an engineering degree?
If we are going to examine this question, we need to set some groundwork for who exactly we consider an engineer. For this endeavour, we will focus on the core of engineering professions: mechanical, civil, chemical, and electrical. Software engineers (in fact, all the students that are doing computer science studies) are engineers, but not in the classical sense – you can also get into this profession without a degree in the field. For these four main categories, we can generally lump the rest of the engineering fields in. Manufacturing engineering can be considered mechanical, geotechnical engineering can be considered civil, etc.


Now that we have our ground rules established, let's look for the answer to the question!

Can You Become an Engineer Without an Engineering Degree?

Civil Engineering

Focusing first on civil engineering, this is currently one of the harder fields to enter into without a degree in engineering. Most civil engineers need to be licensed as Professional Engineers (PEs) in order to be allowed to stamp official plans. In order to get this license, at least a bachelor's in engineering is required. With that said, it is still plausible that you could become a subset of a civil engineer without a degree. Most of these cases are going to require years of hard work at one company that allows you to increase throughout the ranks of the field without formal education. For example, the construction worker to foreman to drafter to engineer. The occurrences of this advancement in civil engineering will be few and far between. The easiest entry to this profession would be simply to get a civil engineering degree. There is a good reason for such high requirements - a person without appropriate knowledge can cause quite a mess during a construction project.

Mechanical Engineering

Mechanical engineers aren't quite as regulated of a profession as civil engineering when it comes to licensing. The quick answer is that you could become a mechanical engineer without a degree in that field, but again, a degree in something technical is usually required. This is great news for any undergraduate student as it allows you to start working before you finish a university program. If you wanted to get into mechanical engineering without any college education you would need to demonstrate years of proficiency and skill in the field. Some companies will even encourage promising graduate and undergraduate students to apply for such a job. It will help the development of your skills while the company will get an experienced worker as soon as he or she finishes university courses. Even then, an employer might still require you to get a formal degree as part of the job. Compared to civil engineering, you can get into mechanical engineering without a degree in the field with ease, but the best way is still to get a degree.

Can You Become an Engineer Without an Engineering Degree?


Chemical Engineering

Chemical engineering is perhaps the easiest field to get into without a degree in chemical engineering, but also the hardest degree to get into without a college degree. Part of why chemical engineering is easier without a chemical engineering degree is because of how far-reaching chemistry is. One could become a chemical engineer with a degree in chemistry, biology, or other life sciences. However, if you don't have some formal education in applied science, becoming a chemical engineer is going to be quite hard.

Electrical Engineering

Lastly, electrical engineering. We saved this one for last because it is probably the easiest field to get into without a degree at all, assuming you can demonstrate proficiency. Electrical engineering is a field that can largely be learned through hard work and experimentation, to a greater extent than other engineering fields. Someone can get started building various things in their garage and eventually gain enough proficiency to be hired in the field. This isn't to discount the large advantage that presents itself with having an electrical engineering degree, rather it is to highlight that hard work can get you into this engineering field more than any other. This makes sense given that this specific field is dependent on the creativity of your projects and final technology that you can produce. Unlike other engineering sciences, where the final product has to adhere to certain quality standards, electrical engineering is all about inventing new systems, services, and products. One of the best careers for those who like to tinker but don't like to study.

Inspiration
Top 10 Reasons to Become an Engineer

Nowadays, you can find lots of engineering resources online. Many people prefer attaining advanced knowledge by reading content on a site. Even though this may help, some areas will be heavily regulated and will require an academic degree. Those of you who would like to skip the traditional learning process and going to a university (due to lack of free time) have in mind there are numerous accredited programs which you can complete online. Just make sure that your state (or country) recognizes the degree.

So, can you become an engineer without a degree? Well, yes ... but it is by far easier to just go get the degree. Engineers are just people who have honed their critical thinking and problem-solving skills beyond standards. If you want to become an engineer, don't let having a degree hold you back. Get out there and learn.
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 1:55pm On Oct 23, 2019
Excuzeme:


Aaah, here in Anambra, once you donate regularly to the Church, you can use the title of Sir, before your name.`
Sir Ejiofor
Sir Emeka Offor
Sir this, Sir that. grin grin

But you are right.
The title "Engineer", is a Professional title that is awarded and confered by a Professional body of Engineers, after specified academic and experience qualifications are taken into consideration.
That is how it is everywhere, including the U.K
All Engineers are Certified as Engineers, that is why they are called Engineers.
Anything other than that does not make you an Engineer but you may have other appropriate titles for your level.
Bro did you say in the UK cos I work in the UK and them Enginners working on the new crossrail tunnel borring maching all trained on the job and are all Enginneres!
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Aventures(m): 2:40pm On Oct 23, 2019
darenyx:



Hmmm... I'm very interested in this story... I'm also waiting for him to deliver my materials ...

There is a certified fraud I know in here though, his moniker akinolaolujide... I gave him, a job worth over 1million+ and he ran away with my money, it been over a year +, and he's in here posting and decieving people, I'm coming for him very soon
These are allegations until proven otherwise. @chekiaut kindly speak up. Even me,my ears are full from different people via calls and messages.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Timtol(m): 3:00pm On Oct 23, 2019
Aventures:
These are allegations until proven otherwise. @chekiaut kindly speak up. Even me,my ears are full from different people via calls and messages.
I need to speak with you sef.
Pls your number big man angry
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Aventures(m): 3:08pm On Oct 23, 2019
Timtol:

I need to speak with you sef.
Pls your number big man angry
Big man ke,, my number is just under here, it comes with every of my post.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by darenyx(m): 3:32pm On Oct 23, 2019
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Aventures:
These are allegations until proven otherwise. @chekiaut kindly speak up. Even me,my ears are full from different people via calls and messages.

True they are still allegations..... he promised to deliver my materials this week... So I'm waiting still .. but for akinolaolujide, I double dare him to come out and defend himself
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Timtol(m): 3:33pm On Oct 23, 2019
Aventures:
Big man ke,, my number is just under here, it comes with every of my post.
Seen! Will put a call through later today..Thanks
You be big man no cover am...lol angry
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Timtol(m): 3:34pm On Oct 23, 2019
darenyx:
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True they are still allegations..... he promised to deliver my materials this week... So I'm waiting still .. but for akinolaolujide, I double dare him to come out and defend himself
Lol angry
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 7:06pm On Oct 23, 2019
segzy14:
Chekitaut is a fraud, deal with him at your own risk.
It has been 7days I paid him N180,000 to deliver 30tons of granite and he hasn’t, telling all sort of lies. Better refund me or you won’t do business on nairaland anymore .


7 days........
This is the last of news I expect to hear that may stand against Chekitaut and funny, another person is having the same issue.

Anyways down where I deal the seller is supposed to use his/her funds to source for the material and gets paid once delivery is made, even if its midnite. This method only stands logically for maximum of 60 tons of granite to be supplied at once.

I hope he clears himself off this issue without prolonging the issue.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Timtol(m): 7:17pm On Oct 23, 2019
bixton:


7 days........
This is the last of news I expect to hear that may stand against Chekitaut and funny, another person is having the same issue.

Anyways down where I deal the seller is supposed to use his/her funds to source for the material and gets paid once delivery is made, even if its midnite. This method only stands logically for maximum of 60 tons of granite to be supplied at once.

I hope he clears himself off this issue without prolonging the issue.
Once put calls to him about two tines but he might not know trying to confirm some quotes and prices of Spanish and Italian tiles,immediately I discovered Darenyx has worked with him this built my trust,but thank God didn't later buy from him maybe my client won't have believe me again sef,would have been in trouble.....Thank you Jesus!!!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 7:27pm On Oct 23, 2019
Timtol:

Once put calls to him about two tines but he might not know trying to confirm some quotes and prices of Spanish and Italian tiles,immediately I discovered Darenyx has worked with him this built my trust,but thank God didn't later buy from him maybe my client won't have believe me again sef,would have been in trouble.....Thank you Jesus!!!


As far as supplies of such goes, I don't vouch for anyone even if we've been dealing for ages and when the monies are coming from a client. If its my personal money I have a limit to what I can allow.
I can always get samples but will have to be at the designated shop or a representative of mine to see physically what is to be paid for and afterwards escort the loading truck back to the site.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Badgers14: 7:32pm On Oct 23, 2019
One of the greatest attitude to have in business is communication.

I dont know if checkitaut is sick or what is making him to fail to deliver to his clients but either way communication is the key. If he was having hard time with his workers/suppliers causing the delays.. why not communicate to his clients??

Lots of times, we are all dependent on some other people to help us deliver to our clients , if those individuals fail that trickles down to us, causing us to fail our clients. But again communication is the key, dont be shy, be honest tell your client what happened and work with them to resolve the issue.

I have been in a number of incident like this, a guy that was supposed to do some work for me, paid him, sourced materials , 2 week later.. dude was still no show, I called him raging and his response oh, my wife just had a baby... am like didn't you know your wife was pregnant for the past 9 months? Do you know if my own wife was pregnant too or ..... but at the end of the day.. this is business.. the Client have blood flowing in their veins also and we all do have plans , don't we

Another situation on site, my in law didn't tell me about it, where I thought the project was was not actually where it is.... dude used the money to settle village people, youth, elders etc that was disturbing the build.... I wasn't happy with him, his response was, he didn't know how to tell me, I might think he chopped the money, he is trying to see how he could patch things and stretch the remaining budget.. and he got me thinking, now you got me upset and all and this is sth that's beyond your control and I have already envisioned where the project should have been and now here we are!!! Did you patch things up then or made it worse?

Bottom line, communication is the key.. if you can't deliver tell your client, refund them as necessary... it the circumstances was beyond your control and the money is gone because of some unforeseen circumstances, still communicate with the client or supplier as the case might be and work something out... keeping silent makes matters worse.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gbadexy(m): 8:12pm On Oct 23, 2019
@oga chekitaut, the silence is getting louder. we are sure something serious must have happened but we would still like you to clear these weighty allegations.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 8:13pm On Oct 23, 2019
Badgers14:
One of the greatest attitude to have in business is communication.

I dont know if checkitaut is sick or what is making him to fail to deliver to his clients but either way communication is the key. If he was having hard time with his workers/suppliers causing the delays.. why not communicate to his clients??

Lots of times, we are all dependent on some other people to help us deliver to our clients , if those individuals fail that trickles down to us, causing us to fail our clients. But again communication is the key, dont be shy, be honest tell your client what happened and work with them to resolve the issue.

I have been in a number of incident like this, a guy that was supposed to do some work for me, paid him, sourced materials , 2 week later.. dude was still no show, I called him raging and his response oh, my wife just had a baby... am like didn't you know your wife was pregnant for the past 9 months? Do you know if my own wife was pregnant too or ..... but at the end of the day.. this is business.. the Client have blood flowing in their veins also and we all do have plans , don't we

Another situation on site, my in law didn't tell me about it, where I thought the project was was not actually where it is.... dude used the money to settle village people, youth, elders etc that was disturbing the build.... I wasn't happy with him, his response was, he didn't know how to tell me, I might think he chopped the money, he is trying to see how he could patch things and stretch the remaining budget.. and he got me thinking, now you got me upset and all and this is sth that's beyond your control and I have already envisioned where the project should have been and now here we are!!! Did you patch things up then or made it worse?

Bottom line, communication is the key.. if you can't deliver tell your client, refund them as necessary... it the circumstances was beyond your control and the money is gone because of some unforeseen circumstances, still communicate with the client or supplier as the case might be and work something out... keeping silent makes matters worse.



Bro all what you just listed there is what I call the Nigerian factor.it SAD!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KIDfurniture(m): 9:20pm On Oct 23, 2019
Nigeria youth don carry their wicked heart come here. 180,000 paid to a Nigeria youth to supply granite don enter voice mail. Why are we like this ? Why are we evil, greedy , wicked , heartless and useless ?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 10:13pm On Oct 23, 2019
gbadexy:
@oga chekitaut, the silence is getting louder. we are sure something serious must have happened but we would still like you to clear these weighty allegations.


He was last seen 2.45am today, if he was innocent he would have responded. I promise him, this will be the last place he will do business as from today until he refund me and if he refuse, he will soon come here to tell the story.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Chekitaut: 10:40pm On Oct 23, 2019
Good evening all, i was informed of several post from a friend here about Segzy post. Yes i hv never d9 u paid me oof service wish is yet to be delivered. is a pity d urgly incident occurred anyway. We left Abeokuta with 2trucks of 30tons load going to Eng Samuel's site @Oko afon. we access tru Oshodi, because Atan terrible state of road, we encounter a gridlock at Toyota to Cele which made a experted nite delivery a day time delivery. Most of d truck like nite due to VIO, FRSC & LASMAN in lagos to aviod fall victims to law.
The 2trucks where not mine i lease it. D driver was not my staff, but they fall in d hands of FRSC corp each ticket was charge almost 90keach.no speed limit, no driver license, no fire..., no xtra tyres etc. what i dod waa to inform him. is a big challenge 2tricks. i hv disappointed no doubt but is never my making.
i was out of cash i told u on call that even N1k i dont hv thinking to deliver & get bal. Anyway i know Segzy14 very well, what you did is not of u, but...no wahala. Tell me what u want you said i shld refund. the running cost of d delivery is above N340k. i will refund if u insist, i will deliver if u want, wish ever way.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 10:43pm On Oct 23, 2019
Give me my money

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Chekitaut: 10:50pm On Oct 23, 2019
I regret the ugly incident but is beyond my capacity. where ur money his is where u mouth is. Eng Segzy14. i hold no grudges against ur actions on social media. 10yrs on Nairaland i hv a strong purpose. God my strength

i am not perfect also i hv decide to do it my way all efforts to get support is heartbreaking. Emi ise o gun ju emi eyan lo...

If d service was PoD this would not show face.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Timtol(m): 10:51pm On Oct 23, 2019
Chekitaut:
Good evening all, i was informed of several post from a friend here about Segzy post. Yes i hv never d9 u paid me oof service wish is yet to be delivered. is a pity d urgly incident occurred anyway. We left Abeokuta with 2trucks of 30tons load going to Eng Samuel's site @Oko afon. we access tru Oshodi, because Atan terrible state of road, we encounter a gridlock at Toyota to Cele which made a experted nite delivery a day time delivery. Most of d truck like nite due to VIO, FRSC & LASMAN in lagos to aviod fall victims to law.
The 2trucks where not mine i lease it. D driver was not my staff, but they fall in d hands of FRSC corp each ticket was charge almost 90keach.no speed limit, no driver license, no fire..., no xtra tyres etc. what i dod waa to inform him. is a big challenge 2tricks. i hv disappointed no doubt but is never my making.
i was out of cash i told u on call that even N1k i dont hv thinking to deliver & get bal. Anyway i know Segzy14 very well, what you did is not of u, but...no wahala. Tell me what u want you said i shld refund. the running cost of d delivery is above N340k. i will refund if u insist, i will deliver if u want, wish ever way.
I understand from this side but how far abt others mentioning your name of what they've experienced abt you sir?
You I've been trying to build my trust in you to get me some materials till all these show up blankly.
Sir,what do you have to say?
Thanks and please protect your reputation if you do have one sir.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Timtol(m): 10:53pm On Oct 23, 2019
Chekitaut:
I regret the ugly incident but is beyond my capacity. where ur money his is where u mouth is. Eng Segzy14. i hold no grudges against ur actions on social media. 10yrs on Nairaland i hv a strong purpose. God my strength

i am not perfect also i hv decide to do it my way all efforts to get support is heartbreaking. Emi ise o gun ju emi eyan lo...

If d service was PoD this would not show face.
Sorry for that
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 10:54pm On Oct 23, 2019
Pay me my money and forget all these long stories, you have made me spend more. Let’s not go there. You promised to refund since three days ago and you haven’t, I sent my account details to you. You are a liar




Chekitaut:
I regret the ugly incident but is beyond my capacity. where ur money his is where u mouth is. Eng Segzy14. i hold no grudges against ur actions on social media. 10yrs on Nairaland i hv a strong purpose. God my strength

i am not perfect also i hv decide to do it my way all efforts to get support is heartbreaking. Emi ise o gun ju emi eyan lo...

If d service was PoD this would not show face.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Chekitaut: 10:55pm On Oct 23, 2019
segzy14:
Give me my money
Surely you get paid. from me. on or b4 friday. Basically due to service render to company which is 12working days pay day.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Timtol(m): 10:56pm On Oct 23, 2019
segzy14:
Pay me my money and forget all these long stories, you have made me spend more. Let’s not go there. You promised to refund since three days ago and you haven’t, I sent my account details to you. You are a liar




Segzy14 calm down, I understand your pain bro, let's do this one by one angry

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 10:59pm On Oct 23, 2019
Timtol:

Segzy14 calm down, I understand your pain bro, let's do this one by one angry


I wish you were in my shoes. He has a bad reputation.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Chekitaut: 11:01pm On Oct 23, 2019
Timtol:

I understand from this side but how far abt others mentioning your name of what they've experienced abt you sir?
You I've been trying to build my trust in you to get me some materials till all these show up blankly.
Sir,what do you have to say?
Thanks and please protect your reputation if you do have one sir.
Challenges in biz is meant for human. i hv a clear, open & kind mind.
whatever happens make a man more stronger for the future.

Sorry Segzy14 i made u pass tru this pains.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Chekitaut: 11:03pm On Oct 23, 2019
segzy14:



I wish you were in my shoes. He has a bad reputation.
Stop it speak for your own. I get my God oooo
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 11:04pm On Oct 23, 2019
Timtol:

I understand from this side but how far abt others mentioning your name of what they've experienced abt you sir?
You I've been trying to build my trust in you to get me some materials till all these show up blankly.
Sir,what do you have to say?
Thanks and please protect your reputation if you do have one sir.

Currently, he has no reputation.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 11:07pm On Oct 23, 2019
Chekitaut:
Stop it speak for your own. I get my God oooo



See the person calling God after all lies. Better shut up there.

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