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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Jeff68: 2:03am On Sep 10
I love these doors!,

n3xt:
Simple Internal Doors by my Goons (Premium)
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by MMotimo: 3:51am On Sep 10
The problem with these arguments is when folks start to add salt and pepper and fail to compare apples to apples. It’s okay to have a bias, heck, we all do for whatever reason but let’s remain factual in these conversations. As adults, these displays of opinions should be wrapped with facts, it’s juvenile to misrepresent.

This front door pic is from 2014 not 2021. Maybe the door still looks like this, maybe not since there are no time stamps on photos but we can all agree that frame on the floor has not stood there for the last 7 years and that plant by the fence has not looked exactly the same for the last 7 years. Facts matter! As do fair arguments.

2014 pic on this thread https://www.nairaland.com/1793643/nexthome-project-gallery#24373737
2021 pic on last page undecided


Moving onto my own bias with this imported vs local topic:

Nigeria’s manufacturing industries, for the most part, with very few exceptions, are not where they ought to be. They have simply not made the progress they should have made when you consider when they started. This is not restricted to building construction alone, it encompasses every facet, even common biscuits, detergent, dish washing soap, bathing soap, etc. While quality standards continue to improve abroad, ours have not made progress or they have lost what progress they made in the past. Whose fault is that? Topic for another day.

Of course, importation is one thing, installation is another. For a lot of people who buy from abroad, the tears come if they can’t get a professional that will provide seamless, clean, finishing so that the material actually does looks like it should. That risk is enough to convince most people to not bother with importing, even when they can afford to.

A lot of the top interior decorators in the country import finishings. As the naira has continued to decline and importation has led to higher costs for the customers, some have started to explore locally produced goods for certain (not all ) finishing materials but with their own stringent quality control processes so that the local manufacturers don’t spoil their reputation. Those top designers also buy imported doors from Naija based suppliers. If you can get something at an affordable price from abroad, go for it but make sure you have the right professionals to install it.

With regards to the RR windshield, there’s no way the £1200 one is the mate of the #25k one. For £1200, I assume that is not an after market part i.e. it’s a part made specifically for that model VIN by the vehicle manufacturer. I assume UK would be similar to the US where for a part like that, the part is sourced based on the VIN and would have all functionalities of a windshield made for that specific VIN. Functionalities could include rain sensor to activate the wiper automatically once it starts to drizzle, visuals on the windshield from the dashboard, etc. Yes, £1200 is a lot and it’s okay to go for a cheaper option but we can’t pretend we are getting the exact same thing. £1200 to #25k is not comparing apples to apples. I am sure the UK also has after market windshields that would be a lot cheaper than £1200.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by MMotimo: 3:51am On Sep 10
n3xt:


#ShowYourEntranceDoorChallenge

We’ve been here for a while. Let’s see what our projects look like years after install.

________

Bold and happy to share my entrance door 8 years after install. I can guarantee the door will remain the same 20 years later.

#NoMaintenace #NoRegrets

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Adedward(m): 4:34am On Sep 10
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 4:49am On Sep 10
MMotimo:


This front door pic is from 2014 not 2021. Maybe the door still looks like this, maybe not since there are no time stamps on photos but we can all agree that frame on the floor has not stood there for the last 7 years and that plant by the fence has not looked exactly the same for the last 7 years. Facts matter! As do fair arguments.


Thanks for making a valid point. You’re very correct about the year of the door in that picture.

For those who know me, you’d know I didn’t live in that house since that image was taken until very recent.

I’m not so close enough to take a more recent picture but here’s 2019 picture.

It’s not about bias. It’s what we see around everyday. I do install imported doors on my projects but I ensure there’s a covered porch in the design I did by myself to shield the doors away from elements.

Having these type of doors is not a guarantee of quality that’s why you’d never see such type of door in 90% of the contemporary builds happening in most upscale developments in Nigeria.
They use locally fabricated doors that we think haven’t made any significant progress.
Those with fat wallets would rather go for solid oak or cedar doors and not some flashy engineering wood materials put together as a door.

It’s like choosing form over functionality.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 5:04am On Sep 10
MMotimo:


Of course, importation is one thing, installation is another. For a lot of people who buy from abroad, the tears come if they can’t get a professional that will provide seamless, clean, finishing so that the material actually does looks like it should. That risk is enough to convince most people to not bother with importing, even when they can afford to.

Valid. Unless the frames are also supplied with the doors, it’s almost near impossible to get a matching frame for installation and such installation always end in “We go work am” type of installation.


A lot of the top interior decorators in the country import finishings. As the naira has continued to decline and importation has led to higher costs for the customers, some have started to explore locally produced goods for certain (not all ) finishing materials but with their own stringent quality control processes so that the local manufacturers don’t spoil their reputation. Those top designers also buy imported doors from Naija based suppliers. If you can get something at an affordable price from abroad, go for it but make sure you have the right professionals to install it.

This is not completely true. Most decorators would rather make their doors than buy imported doors.

Have you noticed people have completely abandoned the use of foreign toilet door idea and go for locally built aluminum doors instead?

A search on the internet will show you what used to be and what people are doing right now.

Most of these imported doors can’t withstand harsh conditions.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by hamtabfawaz(m): 5:07am On Sep 10
rmx:


Summary is we have balance of payment deficit as a nation

Total imports are more than total exports

Solution , be more productive as a nation , add more value to what we export , reduce unnecessary imports and have a sensible birth rate as a nation . Simple grin


Thanks,
Can search for a detailed post I made last year

Thanks!

This helps in a simple form
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by MMotimo: 5:20am On Sep 10
n3xt:


Valid. Unless the frames are also supplied with the doors, it’s almost near impossible to get a matching frame for installation and such installation always end in “We go work am” type of installation.



This is not completely true. Most decorators would rather make their doors than buy imported doors.

Have you noticed people have completely abandoned the use of foreign toilet door idea and go for locally built aluminum doors instead?

A search on the internet will show you what used to be and what people are doing right now.

Most of these imported doors can’t withstand harsh conditions.

But I didn’t say “most,” I said “top.” From spyder’s photo, safe to say there are imported doors that do well in Naija climate even after many years. Don’t get me wrong, I agree you can get anything in Naija for a price but I also know that typically (save for some very few exceptions), that means an imported version of that product and it’s going to cost significantly more because it’s imported. Reason why some folks brave the rigours of importation themselves.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by hamtabfawaz(m): 5:27am On Sep 10
n3xt:
Simple Internal Doors by NextHome

How much does it cost?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 5:32am On Sep 10
MMotimo:


But I didn’t say “most,” I said “top.” From spyder’s photo, safe to say there are imported doors that do well in Naija climate even after many years. Don’t get me wrong, I agree you can get anything in Naija for a price but I also know that typically (save for some very few exceptions), that means an imported version of that product and it’s going to cost significantly more because it’s imported. Reason why some folks brave the rigours of importation themselves.

Oh! Top?

Let’s look at 2 known names in the upscale market and design and build sector.

- Sujimoto with a price tag of N250m per flat
- Play in Architecture (one of the best contemporary design architect and builder around).

They do custom doors - even their pivoting doors were done locally.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 5:37am On Sep 10
@Mmotimo

A lot of people are moving away from most of these substandard foreign stuffs flooding our market.

Let me cite another example.

Have you noticed the shift from Tubs, Jacuzzis, Shower Closets to locally built glass enclosures in most of our top projects?

I agree there are standard foreign doors but you’d pay heavily to have them imported into the country.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 6:01am On Sep 10
Secret of Top Designers Exposed | The Best of Naija Locally Fabricated Doors

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 6:02am On Sep 10
#BestofNaijaLocalDoors

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 6:15am On Sep 10
Even we’ve discovered that Naija Wooden Claddings perform better than Chinese WPC cladding under any condition.

Checkout most upscale developments, they’re doing away with all these cheap stuffs packaged as imported goods.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 6:22am On Sep 10
hamtabfawaz:


How much does it cost?

Oh! Those are the cheap versions. You’d get something good around N60 - N70k or more depending on design and accessories.

Solid hinge, key/locks, handle and frame.

__________

The premium version built with matured cedar and with steel inserts start from N250k
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 6:51am On Sep 10
seunpinky:
I remember that thread... You talked about importing the car for personal use from UK and something with converting it from RHD to LHD.
yes and I did.done dusted at ladipo ��

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by megacontrol(m): 6:52am On Sep 10
Same here. Which part of ogun state are you looking at?

Maybe someone can share insights on prime locations in Ogun State? WIll prefer to limit to ijebu zones i.e. Ijebu Ode, Sagamu, Iperu and the likes.
Epe or Egba are out of reckoning this time around.


Jeff68:
I plan on buying some land there soon!!

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 7:06am On Sep 10
Born2conquer:

Are you into smart homes too? Yes sir
2) the Cctv, does it cover motion sensor? Yes motion sensor
3)the video door bell, will it be at gate also?yes it will be at the gate with talk back ability
4) if the fire alarm sounds, will it trigger an automatic response like a sprinkler system or something? Automatic sounder yes

Thank you
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by hslbroker2: 7:08am On Sep 10
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by hslbroker2: 7:10am On Sep 10
megacontrol:
Same here. Which part of ogun state are you looking at?

Maybe someone can share insights on prime locations in Ogun State? WIll prefer to limit to ijebu zones i.e. Ijebu Ode, Sagamu, Iperu and the likes.
Epe or Egba are out of reckoning this time around.




Epe should be the best for now



Starting an estate there soon on 200 acres

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by megacontrol(m): 7:22am On Sep 10
And you think you got the same quality in the 25k Chinese equivalent?

Even a toks windshield for toyota or honda SUV don't cost 25k, let alone a RR.

erico2k2:

U know, I can tell that some persons never import anything into 9ja from their stories.There is nothing you wont find in 9ja mkt unless you dont look in the right places.my personal story, I dnt know if you saw my range rover thread: anyways I bought the front wind shield for nearly £1200, was going to ship it with the car, o n same day nah so I say make I shift the glass small make I put something inside car nah so I hear chaaa chaa cha, glass shattered, I was so upset and frustrated. I called my boy at Lagos to go and price glass for 2013 range rover sport cos I dnt wanna risk it again shipping it in the back nah so E come back say Oga nah N25K both fixing and buying, I said are you sure he said yes Oga nah Ware house, Chinese people get big factory here nah there we all dey buy any glass. Behold when I arrived I only paid N25k, the moral of my story is this. We have the best of the best in our makt in Nigeria for Nigerians, its just have to do with the size of ones pocket and they way you carry your self plus expectations!
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 7:28am On Sep 10
hamtabfawaz:


E no too shock me! But really annoying.

There must be some sort of solution to it.

Economist or financial experts should be able to explain better

We were previously setting 'rates' on nothing.

There was no economic reason for having a 'strong' naira for about 30 years in this country.

If market forces are to determine the actual value of the naira, we should be exchanging $1 to about ₦1250+.

On what ground should naira be even worth ₦520/$1?

So all the rates you had before now were mere cooked value and even as we have it, it's still not a true reflection of the value of the naira.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 7:31am On Sep 10
rmx:


Summary is we have balance of payment deficit as a nation

Total imports are more than total exports

Solution , be more productive as a nation , add more value to what we export , reduce unnecessary imports and have a sensible birth rate as a nation . Simple grin

Can search for a detailed post I made last year
In addition, more business deals must be closed in naira, fewer transactions in foreign currencies.

Export must be vigorously encouraged.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 7:35am On Sep 10
megacontrol:
And you think you got the same quality in the 25k Chinese equivalent?

Even a toks windshield for toyota or honda SUV don't cost 25k, let alone a RR.


2013
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by hslbroker2: 7:49am On Sep 10
We sell long span 0.45mm @N1, 800

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by money121(m): 7:59am On Sep 10
Adedward:
oga don't Bobo us here jare, money dey on grand before, u just they find more it's well, we shall see mercy of God in all our ways
Leave me Alone ooo grin grin
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by megacontrol(m): 8:10am On Sep 10
Still valid. the chinese equivalent he got at 25k is way inferior.

Toks windshield for a 2010 Honda SUV (Pilot or CRV) was 35k two months ago.
So one should know what he's getting from a brand new chinko one at 25k for 2013 RR.

n3xt:


2013
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 8:20am On Sep 10
megacontrol:
Same here. Which part of ogun state are you looking at?

Maybe someone can share insights on prime locations in Ogun State? WIll prefer to limit to ijebu zones i.e. Ijebu Ode, Sagamu, Iperu and the likes.
Epe or Egba are out of reckoning this time around.



Epe back to ijebu ode is sure best now

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 9:06am On Sep 10
twinskenny:
@egunmogaji we are in your neighborhood… this is getting filled up.

Elebu or Omi Adio? I can't tell.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 9:17am On Sep 10
rotecch77:


Epe back to ijebu ode is sure best now

Good road? What else is the basis for this?

Do you know how much a plot of land is worth in sagamu GRA now? With the number of industries springing up in that axis, a well planned development in that area is a sure bet.
Trust me, no town in the Southwest states is witnessing that much development in terms of infrastructure and industries springing up in the Sagamu - Lagos/Ibadan expressway.

I foresaw this but I never imagined it would be these huge in less than a decade.

Find out how Adron is doing in all the areas he highlighted, this will give you better idea of area to invest in right now.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 9:20am On Sep 10
Gigaset:


Speaking of doors i was actually thinking of importing as well but i don´t know if it will well fitted in 9ja

PS: How i wish i have you and Egun experience cry

For sure nothing beats first hand experience. But rest assured that you can get the quality that you seek here in Nigeria. The economics might not make sense when compared to self importing but you can get them here.

Good luck.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by hamtabfawaz(m): 9:37am On Sep 10
somehow:


We were previously setting 'rates' on nothing.

There was no economic reason for having a 'strong' naira for about 30 years in this country.

If market forces are to determine the actual value of the naira, we should be exchanging $1 to about ₦1250+.

On what ground should naira be even worth ₦520/$1?

So all the rates you had before now were mere cooked value and even as we have it, it's still not a true reflection of the value of the naira.

angry

I understand the country's economic situation has become worse.


But a further devaluation would mean disaster to our Naira.

Imagine if we were to exchange naira at ₦1250!! cry

Absurd

Chaos.

I just pray we don't get to that level , sincerely I really wish for lasting solution to this Problem.

People are suffering.


it's high time we start to support “Made in Nigeria Products”

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