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Who Created God And Then The.devil?????? by Emeskhalifa(m): 9:58am On Aug 26, 2015
If everything has a beginning tell me who created God? Then who created the devil?
Re: Who Created God And Then The.devil?????? by eleko1: 10:06am On Aug 26, 2015
GOD is a SPIRIT.Devil/SaTAN iis one of Angel until he was 'deleted' from heaven cos of his evil(Just as we deleted PDP cos of their eviL wink embarassed angry)

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Re: Who Created God And Then The.devil?????? by CrazyMan(m): 10:10am On Aug 26, 2015
John 1:1-3 says...
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

I believe the passage above answers your question.

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Re: Who Created God And Then The.devil?????? by Emeskhalifa(m): 10:10am On Aug 26, 2015
eleko1:
GOD is a SPIRIT.Devil/SaTAN iis one of Angel until he was 'deleted' from heaven cos of his evil(Just as we deleted PDP cos of their eviL wink embarassed angry)
u havnt answered my question. who created GOD(the spirit)

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Re: Who Created God And Then The.devil?????? by Emeskhalifa(m): 10:12am On Aug 26, 2015
CrazyMan:
John 1:1-3 says...
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

I believe the passage above answers your question.
havent answered the question!! if God was th word, who created the word?

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Re: Who Created God And Then The.devil?????? by kayo80(m): 10:13am On Aug 26, 2015
The white man.

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Re: Who Created God And Then The.devil?????? by eleko1: 10:15am On Aug 26, 2015
Read the book of GENESIS.
Emeskhalifa:

u havnt answered my question. who created GOD(the spirit)
Re: Who Created God And Then The.devil?????? by Nobody: 10:21am On Aug 26, 2015
eleko1:
GOD is a SPIRIT.Devil/SaTAN iis one of Angel until he was 'deleted' from heaven cos of his evil(Just as we deleted PDP cos of their eviL wink embarassed angry)



There's nothing like sin in heaven.

How come the devil became evil while in heaven. Is he not a spirit Do spirits sin

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Re: Who Created God And Then The.devil?????? by CrazyMan(m): 10:25am On Aug 26, 2015
Emeskhalifa:

havent answered the question!! if God was th word, who created the word?
Lol...my dear go and read your bible.

The Bible says, “In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth” (Genesis 1:1). Here God created time itself. Cos if you read Genesis 1 further, you'll agree with my argument that God created time (there was morning and there was night the 1st day Genesis 1:5) Only one who is outside of time, that is, timeless, or eternal, could do this.

To your question...to ask where someone who is eternal, someone who had no beginning, came from (‘Who created God, or who created the Word?’) is like asking, ‘To whom is the bachelor married?’ It is an irrational question.

The Bible matches reality, which is not surprising because it comes from the Creator Himself.

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Re: Who Created God And Then The.devil?????? by Emeskhalifa(m): 10:25am On Aug 26, 2015
chuna1985:




There's nothing like sin in heaven.

How come the devil became evil while in heaven. Is he not a spirit Do spirits sin
thank u for askin that question
Re: Who Created God And Then The.devil?????? by eleko1: 10:25am On Aug 26, 2015
Wetin devil do dat make God ejected him den?
chuna1985:




There's nothing like sin in heaven.

How come the devil became evil while in heaven. Is he not a spirit Do spirits sin
Re: Who Created God And Then The.devil?????? by Emeskhalifa(m): 10:28am On Aug 26, 2015
CrazyMan:

Lol...my dear go and read your bible.

The Bible says, “In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth” (Genesis 1:1). Here God created time itself. Cos if you read Genesis 1 further, you'll agree with my argument that God created time (there was morning and there was night the 1st day Genesis 1:5) Only one who is outside of time, that is, timeless, or eternal, could do this.

To your question...to ask where someone who is eternal, someone who had no beginning, came from (‘Who created God, or who created the Word?’) is like asking, ‘To whom is the bachelor married?’ It is an irrational question.

The Bible matches reality, which is not surprising because it comes from the Creator Himself.
upon dhis long story, i didnt see a place where u talked about how god was created.
see how ppl with religion go about brainwashin ppl??

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Re: Who Created God And Then The.devil?????? by Nobody: 10:44am On Aug 26, 2015
eleko1:
Wetin devil do dat make God ejected him den?


Think n Think Brother, All that poo didn't happen.

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Re: Who Created God And Then The.devil?????? by Nobody: 10:44am On Aug 26, 2015
eleko1:
Wetin devil do dat make God ejected him den?


Think n Think Brother, All that poo didn't happen. None of God's creation can challenge him.

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Re: Who Created God And Then The.devil?????? by CrazyMan(m): 10:45am On Aug 26, 2015
Emeskhalifa:

upon dhis long story, i didnt see a place where u talked about how god was created.
see how ppl with religion go about brainwashin ppl??
Didn't you see the illustration I used in my previous post about asking "who the bachelor is married to"?

I believe its an irrational question because the bible has given you lots and lots of detailed proves to make you understand that God is a spirit, and has been in existence before the universe was formed.

Romans 1:18–22 says,

“For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened. Claiming to be wise, they became fools … ”

And here the Bible explains why otherwise intelligent people choose to believe impossible things—that firstly the universe, then life, just popped into existence without any adequate cause. They choose to illogically accept that their two ‘great beginnings’ had no sufficient cause, rather than acknowledge and honour their Creator.

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Re: Who Created God And Then The.devil?????? by Emeskhalifa(m): 10:54am On Aug 26, 2015
CrazyMan:

Didn't you see the illustration I used in my previous post about asking "who the bachelor is married to"?

I believe its an irrational question because the bible has given you lots and lots of detailed proves to make you understand that God is a spirit, and has been in existence before the universe was formed.

Romans 1:18–22 says,

“For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened. Claiming to be wise, they became fools … ”

And here the Bible explains why otherwise intelligent people choose to believe impossible things—that firstly the universe, then life, just popped into existence without any adequate cause. They choose to illogically accept that their two ‘great beginnings’ had no sufficient cause, rather than acknowledge and honour their Creator.
using barchelor to relate wth d topic is absurd sir. doesnt correlate at all.

u see, stop bein scared of those mere threats in dat book tht was written by some acient men...try find out if god exist truly
do findings outside ur religion den compare dem wit the fairy tales of whats in d book. only thn u can see d truth

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Re: Who Created God And Then The.devil?????? by Emeskhalifa(m): 10:55am On Aug 26, 2015
chuna1985:



Think n Think Brother, All that poo didn't happen. None of God's creation can challenge him.
Re: Who Created God And Then The.devil?????? by CrazyMan(m): 11:17am On Aug 26, 2015
Emeskhalifa:

using barchelor to relate wth d topic is absurd sir. doesnt correlate at all.
Lol...its absurd to ask why the bachelor isn't married, but its completely normal after going through the bible and having countless of personal encounters to ask how God came into existence... you're being biased.

Emeskhalifa:
u see, stop bein scared of those mere threats in dat book tht was written by some acient men...
The bible isn't meant to scare anyone. Its the word of God and its meant to inspire you as you wade though the turbulence waters of life.

The threats you mean are punishment meant for the devil and his agents, its not the will of God that any should perish, but if you allow the devil use you as an instrument in becoming a hindrance to the flow of the gospel, then you've automatically become a partaker in his (the devil) punishment.

Emeskhalifa:
try find out if god exist truly
do findings outside ur religion den compare dem wit the fairy tales of whats in d book. only thn u can see d truth
I have, and I believe he exists...question is have you done your own findings?

Have you sincerely opened your heart to him and asked him to come in?

Have you given him a chance?

Before you write him off, don't you think he deserves a chance to prove whether he's real or not?

Give him that chance today and you wouldn't regret it.

Good luck.

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Re: Who Created God And Then The.devil?????? by Weah96: 11:21am On Aug 26, 2015
CrazyMan:
John 1:1-3 says...
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

I believe the passage above answers your question.

The Word could be what scientists call "information" and what I call "mother Nature." Information and time created the universe. But no matter, I don't expect you to understand.

But go back and notice the phrase "in the beginning." It means that Father Time ALREADY EXISTED. All the universe needed was a sperm donor and Time played the role of that guy. The longer we live, the more we look like our father Time. One can see Time when you gaze at an old woman or an old man.

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Re: Who Created God And Then The.devil?????? by CrazyMan(m): 11:37am On Aug 26, 2015
Weah96:


The Word could be what scientists call "information" and what I call "mother Nature." Information and time created the universe. But no matter, I don't expect you to understand.

But go back and notice the phrase "in the beginning." It means that Father Time ALREADY EXISTED. All the universe needed was a sperm donor and Time played the role of that guy. The longer we live, the more we look like our father Time. One can see Time when you gaze at an old woman or an old man.
We're saying the same thing...."In the begining".

You'll agree with my argument that God created time (there was morning and there was night the 1st day Genesis 1:5) Only one who is outside of time, that is, timeless, or eternal, could do this.

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Re: Who Created God And Then The.devil?????? by Weah96: 11:41am On Aug 26, 2015
CrazyMan:

We're saying the same thing...."In the begining".

You'll agree with my argument that God created time (there was morning and there was night the 1st day Genesis 1:5) Only one who is outside of time, that is, timeless, or eternal, could do this.

Morning and night? Do you what makes morning morning and night night?

Hint #1: Time existed before the stars were formed.
Hint #2: Our Sun is a star.
Re: Who Created God And Then The.devil?????? by CrazyMan(m): 11:43am On Aug 26, 2015
Weah96:


Morning and night? So you what makes morning morning and night night?

Hint: Time existed before the stars were created.
Hint #2: Our Sun is a star.
Agreed!
Re: Who Created God And Then The.devil?????? by Emeskhalifa(m): 11:53am On Aug 26, 2015
CrazyMan:



The bible isn't meant to scare anyone. Its the word of God and its meant to inspire you as you wade though the turbulence waters of life.

pls read.this and tell me hIS bible isnt meant to scare no wan

2Kings 21:12 Therefore thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Behold, I am bringing such evil upon Jerusalem and Judah, that whosoever heareth of it, both his ears shall tingle.

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Re: Who Created God And Then The.devil?????? by Weah96: 11:54am On Aug 26, 2015
CrazyMan:

Agreed!

With what do you agree exactly? That morning and night have as much to do with Time as your early morning bathroom break?

If you go to the restroom six times a day, does it mean then that you were the one who created time?

According to you, your God is responsible for day and night. I was only letting you know that day and night are mere consequences of the existence of Father Time. They don't mean that someone created time. In fact, the bible says that Time existed before the bible God.

"In the beginning...(of Time, of course),... the word was God." Time was not created. That's why it's called Father.

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Re: Who Created God And Then The.devil?????? by CrazyMan(m): 12:04pm On Aug 26, 2015
Weah96:


With what do you agree exactly? That morning and night have as much to do with Time as your early morning bathroom break?

If you go to the restroom six times a day, does it mean then that you were the one who created time?

According to you, your God is responsible for day and night. I was only letting you know that day and night are mere consequences of the existence of Father Time. They don't mean that someone created time. In fact, the bible says that Time existed before the bible God.

"In the beginning...(of Time, of course),... the word was God." Time was not created. That's why it's called Father.
My agreement is that time has been in existence before the creation of the world.

Genesis 1:1-2
1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

This tells us even before the world was created, time had already existed...we're saying the same thing.

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Re: Who Created God And Then The.devil?????? by Weah96: 12:09pm On Aug 26, 2015
CrazyMan:

My agreement is that time has been in existence before the creation of the world.

Genesis 1:1-2
1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

This tells us even before the world was created, time had already existed...we're saying the same thing.

Oh OK. I'm afflicted with the caffeine rush this morning, excuse me.

So who created Time itself? Is Time the God you speak of? Time is capable of turning dead, rotten dogs into shiny blue diamonds by way of his girlfriend/concubine Mother Nature. That's why I suggested that those two have always existed.

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Re: Who Created God And Then The.devil?????? by CrazyMan(m): 12:10pm On Aug 26, 2015
Emeskhalifa:

pls read.this and tell me hIS bible isnt meant to scare no wan

2Kings 21:12 Therefore thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Behold, I am bringing such evil upon Jerusalem and Judah, that whosoever heareth of it, both his ears shall tingle.
Are you just trying to sustain this discussion...what has this passage got to do with the bible being scary.

Why not go and read it from verse 1-12 so it will be much clearer to you why God made that statement.

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Re: Who Created God And Then The.devil?????? by CrazyMan(m): 12:12pm On Aug 26, 2015
Weah96:

Oh OK. I'm afflicted with the caffeine rush this morning, excuse me.

So who created Time itself? Is Time the God you speak of? Time is capable of turning dead, rotten dogs into shiny blue diamonds by way of his girlfriend/concubine Mother Nature. That's why I suggested that those two have always existed.
Time has been in existence since the existence of God.

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Re: Who Created God And Then The.devil?????? by Princewell2012(m): 2:41pm On Aug 26, 2015
His name is I AM that I AM. He does not have beginning and he does not have end. So he is created by nobody. But he created all things including devil himself. Have i answered your question?
Re: Who Created God And Then The.devil?????? by Weah96: 3:42pm On Aug 26, 2015
Princewell2012:
His name is I AM that I AM. He does not have beginning and he does not have end. So he is created by nobody. But he created all things including devil himself. Have i answered your question?

I AM means Moses was speaking from his own geeked up personal psyche.

Read very carefully and see what the God tells him to say. God is not a remote third party. He is YOU. Moses got in touch with his own quantum observer by way of psychedelics. It was the quantum observer who told him to say that shyt.

Imagine if the protagonist in your dreams could speak to you while in your dreams. He spoke with his, using entheogens. It is the pinnacle of the Zen state.

Btw, Moses is just a selective name since the real person who wrote the thing remains unknown.

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Re: Who Created God And Then The.devil?????? by Nobody: 3:58pm On Aug 26, 2015
Princewell2012:
His name is I AM that I AM. He does not have beginning and he does not have end. So he is created by nobody. But he created all things including devil himself. Have i answered your question?

Question is who created your god?
Re: Who Created God And Then The.devil?????? by winner01(m): 5:13pm On Aug 26, 2015
Probe your existence first before you probe God's... Crap!!!

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