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Re: Which Ethnic Group Is The Majority In South South Geo Political Zone by pazienza(m): 6:59pm On Sep 05, 2015
ijawcitizen:
it is truely condescending for any igbo to claim we Ijaws have "igbo blood" (whatever that means) in us, it makes me short of a response too.

AT THE BOLDED: we dont share any ANCESTRAL OR CULTURAL link with the igbos, in terms of both and many more (including our worldviews) we are miles apart like we came from different planets. they are just people we bought as slaves and labourers, nothing else.

Aljharem, so you remember this your old moniker today? *grins

Of course,Ndiigbo have nothing in common with your Arewa-Oduanistan people.

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Re: Which Ethnic Group Is The Majority In South South Geo Political Zone by Sweetlemon(f): 7:03pm On Sep 05, 2015
ijawcitizen:
it is truely condescending for any igbo to claim we Ijaws have "igbo blood" (whatever that means) in us, it makes me short of a response too.

AT THE BOLDED: we dont share any ANCESTRAL OR CULTURAL link with the igbos, in terms of both and many more (including our worldviews) we are miles apart like we came from different planets. they are just people we bought as slaves and labourers, nothing else.

Choi!
See finishing! grin

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Re: Which Ethnic Group Is The Majority In South South Geo Political Zone by forgiveness: 7:04pm On Sep 05, 2015
pazienza:


Ika is not Igboid/ Edoid, Ika is and has always been an Igboid language. That Wikipedia page you posted was edited by a mischievous fellow, and was immediately corrected by Wikipedia.

No Ika man can communicate on any level with an Edo man, unless he learnt Edo as a second language.
But an Ika man can travel to Owerre Imo state for the first time of his life, and feel at home.

Do you mean the Wikipedia page i just opened now now?

Do you speak Ika or Edo?

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Re: Which Ethnic Group Is The Majority In South South Geo Political Zone by forgiveness: 7:08pm On Sep 05, 2015
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edoid_languages

Why is Ika listed among Edoid languages?

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Re: Which Ethnic Group Is The Majority In South South Geo Political Zone by pazienza(m): 7:09pm On Sep 05, 2015
[b] This is my candid and unbiased idea on how our proposed memoranda to the CONFAB should look like. This, in no way, is final copy of it. Please, lets have it subjected to a comprehensive analysis with the view to removing things considered irrelevant and injecting those viewed most appropriate. IGBANKE IN SEARCH OF LINGUISTIC AND CULTURAL IDENTITY
INTRODUCTION
Language and culture are two of the most fundamental factors that unite and identify a people . A people and their race go into extinction once their language is dead. Once a group of people who share similar linguistic and cultural affinity are dismembered or have other language and culture super-imposed on them, the resultant effect is gradual, systematic and eventual disintegration of the people, their language and culture.
A classical example of a people who have suffered aforementioned linguistic and cultural annihilation were the Sects. Sects, the original owner of the present-day England were, in the 4th century, attacked by the three Germanic tribes- Jutes, Saxons and Anglo-Saxons. The imposition of the dialects of the three Germanic tribes led to the total extinction of the Sectic language.
Though, the descendants of the Sects are still in England, but their linguistic and cultural identity have gone into oblivion.
To this extent, the people of Igbanke in Orhionmwon Local Government Area, Edo state are face the Sects experience. Igbanke is one of the few Ika-speaking communities in Edo state. For this singular reason, they are subjected to all forms of discriminations and marginalization.

STATEMENT OF FACTS ON THE SUBJECT MATTER
The language and culture of the good people of Igbanke are losing their envious identity and relevance in culture-linguistic market-place in Edo state in particular and Nigeria at large.
Several reasons are evidently present to support the fears and anxiety of the people of Igbanke that our identity as a people would go into sudden extinction if urgent measures are not quickly taken to address our emasculation by Bini language dominance. The following points support the facts of the subject matter:
1) Igbanke is one of the few communities in Edo state that speak Ika language
2) Igbanke is located in Orhionmwon Local Government Area, Edo state.
3) Igbanke, by name is in Orhionmwon LGA, but geographically, we do not share common boundary with any community in the council
4) From the eastern flank, Igbanke shares common boundary with Mbiri, an Ika speaking community in Delta stae, from west, it’s bounded by Oghada, another Ika speaking community in Uhunmwode LGA in Edo state. In the northern sphere, Igbanke has boundary with Ekpon, Ika speaking community in Igueben LGA while from the south, it has Agbor and Oza-Nogogo, Ika communities in Delta state as neighbours.
5) Igbanke is in Edo south senatorial district
6) Igbanke people and community came under the Bini empire during the latter’s expantionist programme.
7) Most of other Ika speaking communities that were conquered by Bini empire same time with Igbanke have gotten their independence in Delta state while Igbanke, Oghada, Otobaye, Iru, Ekpon and Ogbeka etc are selfishly scattered in three local government areas with the attendant linguistic discrimination and political marginalization.
Igbanke are gradually losing their linguistic and cultural identity as a result of our involuntary affiliation to the Bini language-speakers dominated Orhionmwon LGA. [/b]

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Re: Which Ethnic Group Is The Majority In South South Geo Political Zone by AlPeter: 7:10pm On Sep 05, 2015
pazienza:
[b] Most times, when we have cause to attend meetings with the Binis in our local government area or senatorial district, deliberations are often conducted in Bini in language without considering the fact that the people of Igbanke in such meeting neither speak nor understand the language. Often than not, when we attend such meetings, we left the venue more confused than we were before we went.
[/b]https://naijadebate./2014/12/10/a-thread-on-the-history-of-the-igbanke-people-of-edo-state/




The Ikas in Edo state, the Igbanke can't speak or understand Edo( Bini) language. But they will understand an Abia Man perfectly.

Owan folks can't understand bini, neither can Esan, orhiowun speaks another dialect infact there can be more than 5 different Dialects in a Local Government that stuff you have there is nothing
Re: Which Ethnic Group Is The Majority In South South Geo Political Zone by pazienza(m): 7:12pm On Sep 05, 2015
[b] ISSUES FROM THE STATEMENT OF FACTS
Consequent upon the facts drawn from the subject matter, some issues could be deduced to support Igbanke search for linguistic and cultural identity. These issues would go a long way in justifying our position.
1)Igbanke was deliberately, but selfishly carved into Edo state during the 1991 state creation irrespective of the linguistic difference between the people of Igbanke and the dominant Bini speaking population of the state.
2) Over 96% of Ika speaking communities in the defunct Bendel state were carved into Delta state while Igbanke and a handful other Ika speaking communities were severed into Edo state where they are presently subjected to acute linguistic and sundry discriminations
3) Because of linguistic factor, the people of Igbanke feel more at home with their kiths and kins (Ika speaking people) in Edo and Delta states.
4) Igbanke is made up of six (6) autonomous clans: Ake/Obiogba, Idumu-Odin, Igbontor, Oligie, Omolua and Ottah. These clans were governed by traditional rulers called ‘’Eze or Obi’’. These terms were of Ika origin, but have been forcefully changed to ‘’Enogie’’ a Bini term by the conquering Binis.
5) Our ancestral heritage like language, names and beliefs are being systematically destroyed by the domineering power of the Binis.

ARGUMENTS IN SUPPORT OF ISSUES RAISED
1)Most Igbanke indigenes who have Ika ancestral names like, “Emeka”, “Maduka”, “Chukwuka’’, “Chinyere”, “Amaka and “Ogorchukwu etc are often confronted with all forms of harrowing experiences when there are needs to visit our council headquarters, Abudu to process one official documents or the other. We are often denied the issuance of documents like, ‘’Certificate of Local Government of origin’’, Protest Letter’’, To Whom it May Concern’’ etc on the guise that we are Igbos not Binis.
2) Those who have the likes of the Ika aforementioned names, but can speak Bini language are rarely subjected to the above embarrassments and discriminations. This act goes a long way to vindicate our fear that there is a subtle, but carefully planned agenda to make us lose and abandon our ancestral linguistic and cultural heritage.
3) In order to escape from these unnecessary embarrassments, some have no other option left than to change their identity from Ika to Bini names.
4) Today, we, the good people of Igbanke are gradually losing our once envied linguistic and cultural identity.
5) Some of the eminent sons and daughters of Igbanke, whom out of their outstanding contributions to the development of the community, were recognized and given chieftaincy titles had had such titles changed from their original Ika origin to Bini equivalence. For example, few years ago, one of our sons who addressed himself as “Chief Orike-Eze” in Oba of Benin palace was shamefully harassed, insulted and forcefully forced, right in the palace to change the title to its Bini version. According to the palace, the title, “Orike-Eze” had its origin from Ika and Igbo nations.
5) Most times, when we have cause to attend meetings with the Binis in our local government area or senatorial district, deliberations are often conducted in Bini in language without considering the fact that the people of Igbanke in such meeting neither speak nor understand the language. Often than not, when we attend such meetings, we left the venue more confused than we were before we went.
6) In Edo state, Igbanke is only tolerated, not respected, seen, but not accepted. Today, in Edo state, plans are underway by the state Ministry of Education to introduce the teaching of Bini language in Primary and Secondary schools across Edo south senatorial district including Igbanke. Unfortunately, our indigenous language, Ika is not in any way considered qualified and appropriate to be taught in schools in Igbanke. To us, its another deliberate attempt to send our linguistic identity into extinction.
7) Our people have also suffered several inexplicable discriminations when it [/b]
Re: Which Ethnic Group Is The Majority In South South Geo Political Zone by OfoIgbo: 7:12pm On Sep 05, 2015
Ethnologue

Ika

Primary tabsLANGUAGE(ACTIVE TAB)FEEDBACK

A language of Nigeria

ISO 639-3

ikk

Population

22,800 (2000).

Location

Edo state: Orhionmwon LGA.

Language Maps

Nigeria, Map 9

Language Status

5 (Developing).

Classification

Niger-Congo, Atlantic-Congo, Volta-Congo, Benue-Congo, Igboid, Igbo

Dialects

Agbor (administrative and commercial center) area dialect may become the standard form. Further east and south varieties become more similar to Igbo (Report of the Committee on Languages of Midwestern state: 12).

Language Use

Used as L2 by Esan [ish].

Language Development

Grammar. NT: 2011.

Language Resources

OLAC resources in and about Ika

Writing

Latin script [Latn], used since 2009.

https://www.ethnologue.com/language/ikk
forgiveness:
Ika
Total population
240,000
Languages
Edoid languages
The Ika people number around 240,000.[1]The Ika people are found in north west Delta State. They share borders linguistically in the west with the Edo speakers, in the north with the Ishan speakers, in the East with the Aniocha language speakers and in the south with the Ukwuani speakers.[2]
Re: Which Ethnic Group Is The Majority In South South Geo Political Zone by PenSniper: 7:12pm On Sep 05, 2015
cheruv:

There's no tribe called Igbo in Nigeria..


Yes, Ibo is what their biafran author, Achebe called.
Igbo is either Forest or Marijuana, maybe that is why. . .

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Re: Which Ethnic Group Is The Majority In South South Geo Political Zone by freeage7(m): 7:13pm On Sep 05, 2015
bokohalal:

You are limiting an ethnicity by political boundaries and at the same time expanding another due to their spread across political borders. You are loath to applyig the same yardstick for obvious reasons.
How many Ijaw are there in Edo and Ondo states?
How many Ijaws are there in Akwa Ibom and Cross Rivers states?
How many Local governments do they occupy in Delta state?
What is the population of the whole of Bayelsa state?
I think Ijaw makes up 10% of Nigeria's total population. Making them the 4th ethnic group in Nigeria. Do you think otherwise?
Re: Which Ethnic Group Is The Majority In South South Geo Political Zone by AlPeter: 7:13pm On Sep 05, 2015
pazienza:


There are no Yoruba speaking people in Edo. Stop the madness already.

Akoko Edos don't speak Yoruba or Yoruboid languages.
Don't confuse them with the Akokos of Ondo.

If truth be told, Ondo is not really 100% Yoruba speaking, there appear to be some non Yoruba speaking groups in Ondo that over time became "Yorubanized" to a large extent, but still managed to retain their uniqueness.

don't talk about things you have no idea about boy.

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Re: Which Ethnic Group Is The Majority In South South Geo Political Zone by pazienza(m): 7:17pm On Sep 05, 2015
[quote author=AlPeter post=37708249]
Owan folks can't understand bini, neither can Esan, orhiowun speaks another dialect infact there can be more than 5 different Dialects in a Local Government that stuff you have there is nothing [/quote]

Igbanke and indeed the whole Ika, linguistically speaking has nothing to do with Bini or any Edoid language, apart from few words borrowed as a result of years of interactions which incase of Igbanke has been of forceful imperialist imposition and assimilation by the Edos.

I see that even the Esans are now beginning to add Ekpon as part of Esan ethnic nationality, when they fully know that Ekpon is an Ika speaking town.
Re: Which Ethnic Group Is The Majority In South South Geo Political Zone by forgiveness: 7:20pm On Sep 05, 2015
forgiveness:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edoid_languages

Why is Ika listed among Edoid languages?
Re: Which Ethnic Group Is The Majority In South South Geo Political Zone by pazienza(m): 7:20pm On Sep 05, 2015
AlPeter:


don't talk about things you have no idea about boy.

Akoko Edo is not Yoruboid and even Akoko Ondo was once Edoid but over the centuries, Yoruboid groups have been assimilating the original Edos there, only traces of Edo now remain in Akoko ondo, the people has been "Yorubanized", but Akoko Edo remain Edoid.
Re: Which Ethnic Group Is The Majority In South South Geo Political Zone by AlPeter: 7:23pm On Sep 05, 2015
bokohalal:
One other thing of note. I am pretty sure that most Igbo people have never heard real Eka people speak. It is nothing close to Igbo language. I am not speaking about Igbo-influenced-Ika. Just look for Igbanke people and talk to them. All this talk about Ika as Igbo will stop. Name means nothing. I have a Yoruba name but I am full Bini. Many Hausa Fulani have Arab names.

you dey mind dem dey use dere own traditions to judge others funny sets. Don't know why dey are just trying to claim everyone by force.

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Re: Which Ethnic Group Is The Majority In South South Geo Political Zone by freeage7(m): 7:24pm On Sep 05, 2015
bokohalal:

You are limiting an ethnicity by political boundaries and at the same time expanding another due to their spread across political borders. You are loath to applyig the same yardstick for obvious reasons.
How many Ijaw are there in Edo and Ondo states?
How many Ijaws are there in Akwa Ibom and Cross Rivers states?
How many Local governments do they occupy in Delta state?
What is the population of the whole of Bayelsa state?

www.indexmundi.com/nigeria/ethnic_groups.html
Re: Which Ethnic Group Is The Majority In South South Geo Political Zone by fr3do(m): 7:39pm On Sep 05, 2015
ijawcitizen:
it is truely condescending for any igbo to claim we Ijaws have "igbo blood" (whatever that means) in us, it makes me short of a response too.

AT THE BOLDED: we dont share any ANCESTRAL OR CULTURAL link with the igbos, in terms of both and many more (including our worldviews) we are miles apart like we came from different planets. they are just people we bought as slaves and labourers, nothing else.


state your Lga and your hometown.
Re: Which Ethnic Group Is The Majority In South South Geo Political Zone by PenSniper: 7:39pm On Sep 05, 2015
patrick89:

Are ijebus yoruba?
are aworis yoruba?
are Egun yoruba?
if ekiti people are the same with egba why did awolowo discriminate against them? why did he give the ekiti people only useless courses to study? course like yoruba, culture, religion etc.. while he gave egbas doctor, engineers accountant etc! this is the main reason why we have highest number of professors in ekiti!
!


Why do you talk like a dunce ?
Did Awolowo give people which course to read or people chose their own courses of preference ?

Are you trying to re-write history or just dispalying your ignorance ?
Kwara, Ijebu, Egun, Awori, etc are not Yoruba ? Where on earth did you go to school ?

FYI, Yoruba is the umbrella name/language for the numerous ethnic groups that cut across the entire SW, Edo, Kwara, Kogi, Delta and across the borders to Togo and Rep. Of Benin.

I am Ijebu and proudly Yoruba and Oodua.
Ijebu was the only area that refused to succumb to the white colonialists.
And the Yoruba was the only race in Nigeria that the colonial masters met well civilized, organized and orderly.
Check history.

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Re: Which Ethnic Group Is The Majority In South South Geo Political Zone by PenSniper: 7:49pm On Sep 05, 2015
patrick89:
I know them like my palms, two of my type will cripple their business!!


Yes, i trust you to do that being a child of the Devil.
Did Satan not single-handedly bring Adam and Eve, who were created holy, down ? And by extension, the earth ?
So certainly, two of you, being in-dwelled by the slying, cunning,
treacherous and devilish spirit of your demon-father can reck a great deal of havoc.

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Re: Which Ethnic Group Is The Majority In South South Geo Political Zone by Jascon4: 7:56pm On Sep 05, 2015
zendy:



Yes there are Igbo speaking people in Akwa ibom from what I have been told. The immediate past Governor of the state is said to be from the Igbo speaking part

Don't get your hopes high, there simply isn't any igbo speaking tribe in Akwa Ibom.

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Re: Which Ethnic Group Is The Majority In South South Geo Political Zone by Ilekeh(f): 7:57pm On Sep 05, 2015
forgiveness:
Ika
Total population
240,000
Languages
Edoid languages
The Ika people number around 240,000.[1]The Ika people are found in north west Delta State. They share borders linguistically in the west with the Edo speakers, in the north with the Ishan speakers, in the East with the Aniocha language speakers and in the south with the Ukwuani speakers.[2]

240,000 in a 175million population. How manage?

Dem be like population of one owambe party.

I laugh at the Ijaws that cries marginalisation with one mouth and then enslaves Biafra with another.

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Re: Which Ethnic Group Is The Majority In South South Geo Political Zone by cheruv: 8:12pm On Sep 05, 2015
PenSniper:



Yes, Ibo is what their biafran author, Achebe called.
Igbo is either Forest or Marijuana, maybe that is why. . .
Both ibo and Igbo doesn't exist in Nigeria... They're the main constituents of the Great Zionist state of Biafra whose emperor lives in Enugwu.

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Re: Which Ethnic Group Is The Majority In South South Geo Political Zone by bokohalal(m): 8:13pm On Sep 05, 2015
PenSniper:



Why do you talk like a dunce ?
Did Awolowo give people which course to read or people chose their own courses of preference ?

Are you trying to re-write history or just dispalying your ignorance ?
Kwara, Ijebu, Egun, Awori, etc are not Yoruba ? Where on earth did you go to school ?

FYI, Yoruba is the umbrella name/language for the numerous ethnic groups that cut across the entire SW, Edo, Kwara, Kogi, Delta and across the borders to Togo and Rep. Of Benin.

I am Ijebu and proudly Yoruba and Oodua.
Ijebu was the only area that refused to succumb to the white colonialists.
And the Yoruba was the only race in Nigeria that the colonial masters met well civilized, organized and orderly.
Check history.

More like you should check into a psychiatric hospital because of the nonsense you put up there.
Re: Which Ethnic Group Is The Majority In South South Geo Political Zone by bokohalal(m): 8:17pm On Sep 05, 2015
freeage7:

I think Ijaw makes up 10% of Nigeria's total population. Making them the 4th ethnic group in Nigeria. Do you think otherwise?
Ten percent is eighteen million people.
Bros , what is the entire population of the Niger-Delta states?

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Re: Which Ethnic Group Is The Majority In South South Geo Political Zone by martinz1: 8:25pm On Sep 05, 2015
Goodboiyy:


keep deceiving yourself. so wen jona from a minority became president does it mean Ijaws re d top 3 major tribe in Nigeria ?

As for rivers , d people u tag Igbo re Ikwerre and the rest, the last time I check ikwerre was a tribe and nt an Igbo dialect . so wat re u saying ?
make more research, google igbo people on wikipedia , or better still learn igbo language , or trvl down to river state don't come online to display ignorance

ikwerre is an not the only igboid in rivers, have u heard of egbema lga in rivers and egbama in IMO state
Re: Which Ethnic Group Is The Majority In South South Geo Political Zone by bugzbunny: 8:43pm On Sep 05, 2015
patrick89:


Attention Attention !
Do not reply this type of thread again! The mission is simple, divide them let them fight amongst themselves!!!

What is the second major tribe in SW after yorubas? stupid tiger face vultures!! left for me and you guys, your media preponderance will crumble. I wonder why people should fall for this silly move!!!
Spot on...
I ve been watching dat princedebola
The guy is a yoruba bigot..
Very cunny and sinister..
Best thing is to ignore his threads
People should knw...

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Re: Which Ethnic Group Is The Majority In South South Geo Political Zone by freeage7(m): 9:03pm On Sep 05, 2015
bokohalal:
Ten percent is eighteen million people. Bros , what is the entire population of the Niger-Delta states?
I never knew Nigeria is 180million.
Re: Which Ethnic Group Is The Majority In South South Geo Political Zone by freeage7(m): 9:04pm On Sep 05, 2015
bokohalal:

Ten percent is eighteen million people.
Bros , what is the entire population of the Niger-Delta states?
I never knew Nigeria is 180million. I still dey look 160 million.
Re: Which Ethnic Group Is The Majority In South South Geo Political Zone by freeage7(m): 9:19pm On Sep 05, 2015
bokohalal:

Ten percent is eighteen million people.
Bros , what is the entire population of the Niger-Delta states?
The Niger-Delta states are 1. Abia, 2. Akwa Ibom, 3. Bayelsa, 4.
Cross River, 5. Delta, 6. Edo, 7.Imo, 8. Ondo, 9.
Rivers.
The Ijaws are present in Bayelsa, Delta, Ondo, and River. There population in each state mentioned, I am not sure of it.

As at 2005 the total population of the Niger Delta states is over 30 million. The region is growing everyday.

And don't forget that a typical Ijaw man is a serial polygamist. Think about that.
Re: Which Ethnic Group Is The Majority In South South Geo Political Zone by rudebouy: 10:15pm On Sep 05, 2015
Sweetlemon:


My brother I taya o!
Choi!!
Sometimes I actually pity these people. I really wonder what causes this kind of perpetual emotional delusions.

Nma nkut ntoro oh. Mbono unege ami ibigi yak owo akop mpko oh.

Meanwhile I still trip for ya objectivity oh. U too get sense oh. I don open bride price account for ya head for first bank. Boys are not smiling .8-)
Re: Which Ethnic Group Is The Majority In South South Geo Political Zone by bokohalal(m): 11:25pm On Sep 05, 2015
freeage7:

The Niger-Delta states are 1. Abia, 2. Akwa Ibom, 3. Bayelsa, 4.
Cross River, 5. Delta, 6. Edo, 7.Imo, 8. Ondo, 9.
Rivers.
The Ijaws are present in Bayelsa, Delta, Ondo, and River. There population in each state mentioned, I am not sure of it.

As at 2005 the total population of the Niger Delta states is over 30 million. The region is growing everyday.

And don't forget that a typical Ijaw man is a serial polygamist. Think about that.

There are more people in Benin City than in all of Bayelsa state, the major Ijaw place in Nigeria.
In all other states where you find Ijaws, they are in settlements and minor minority. Inconsequential to the politics, economy and social development of the states they are residents of,aside one or two local governments in Delta state.
By your calculation, Ijaws are more than half the population of other ethnicities in the Niger-Delta. That is cause for laughter.

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