hahn:


You're totally right.

But you didn't mention that Scotland declined to be separated from the UK

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/19/scotland-rejects-independence-uk_n_5847302.html

Nigeria's issues goes well beyond just the fact that we were forced to come together as a nation and we also have to consider just how much tribalism is dividing us. If the Ibos get Biafra, they are still going to be faced with the issue of Imbitse against Untu and this applies to every other part of Nigeria.

I believe our major issue is separating our cultural differences from the law.

I disagree with you. For you to ever think that the North will separate their beloved islam from the law of Nigeria is a mirage. If you are thinking of drinking a bottle of beer publicly in the far north someday, then think again, bcus it would never happen. As far as true moslems are concern, the law is islam and any move to alter it will be violently rebutted.

wisdomguy4u:


You know it baffles me why there must be bloodshed in african countries b4 succession can place? Like the 30years succession war of sudan which gave birth to south sudan. Why will a group declare a total annihilation of another group bcus they decided to part ways with them? I just can't figure out why africa so much like war. Britain recently organize a referendum for independent of scottish pple , without any bloodshed. When will africa grow an advance
mental faculty to understand that forcing or
threaten a group of pple with war to remain with
you is tantamount to slavery. The togetherness of
different group of pple can only yield good when
there exist a harmonious mutual understanding btw
them. There is no love in the unity of Nigeria, and
the southerners has been on the receiving end esp
the Igbo christians , who had continue to be a victim
in the numerous tribal massacres often perpetrated
in the North part of Nigeria. Where is the love?

Africans are like bunch of animals in the eyes of western world , they are so cruel and wicked to their own self. Bunch of blood sucking black demons with fish brain, who scream war anytime they hear succession. African leaders are all bunch of literate fools. This is why africa will remain under-develop until they strive to overcome their dementia mind-set and blaze up to catch with their contemporaries in the western world.

The reason isn't farfetched. Africans don't value others convictions and beliefs. They don't believe in laws. Whether or not we want to believe it- we're still hundreds of years behind schedule.

Every people reserve the right to determine their own destiny, but BLACKS BEING BLACKS, will never respect that, but will instead prefer wars.

You must not live in the same nation with a people to show you love them.

Ugomba:
Lets hear your opinion, should Nigeria which was amalgamed in 1914 by Lord Lugard be deamalgamated?
So that we will have an Arewa Republic and Republic of Southern Nigeria.
whats your opinion?

You people are always talking thrash. You talk as if there was a republic of southern Nigeria and eastern Nigeria before Luggard amalgamated the north and south. The only part of Nigeria that had a recognizable political structure pre-colonization was northern Nigeria under Usman Dan folio and south west Nigeria held together by Alaafin of Oyo. South East was a collection of independent villages with closely related language and culture, it was never a single political unit. South South was a mosaic of independent tribes each with different languages and cultures.

The British actually signed treaties with each independent tribe. So anyone suggesting we jettison the British political arrangement is suggesting we go back to being independent tribes and villages.

hahn:


You're totally right.

But you didn't mention that Scotland declined to be separated from the UK

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/19/scotland-rejects-independence-uk_n_5847302.html

Nigeria's issues goes well beyond just the fact that we were forced to come together as a nation and we also have to consider just how much tribalism is dividing us. If the Ibos get Biafra, they are still going to be faced with the issue of Imbitse against Untu and this applies to every other part of Nigeria.

I believe our major issue is separating our cultural differences from the law.

Enyi
What's the meaning of the highlighted portion Abi you follow those people wey their prikk dey standa if they hear Igbo or Biafra?

Team up with Hausa and get experience of Syria and -----tan countires

truefact:
Of course everybody should go their own way and those who want to merge together can...there is nothing like southern Nigeria. ...what we have in Nigeria is ethnic groups. ..each should choose who they want to team up with ...period

wisdomguy4u:



I disagree with you. For you to ever think that the North will separate their beloved islam from the law of Nigeria is a mirage. If you are thinking of drinking a bottle of beer publicly in the far north someday, then think again, bcus it would never happen. As far as true moslems are concern, the law is islam and any move to alter it will be violently rebutted.

Actually, you agree with me. The law is supposed to be above our personal beliefs or our culture and everyone should conform only to the laws as stated in our constitution. It might be a pipe dream but that IS what is necessary to achieving true federalism

cheruv:

Enyi
What's the meaning of the highlighted portion Abi you follow those people wey their prikk dey standa if they hear Igbo or Biafra?

I only used that as an example bro. Tribalism is a problem all over Africa. Personally, if Biafra becomes a reality i'd rather be Biafran

hahn:


I only used that as an example bro. Tribalism is a problem all over Africa. Personally, if Biafra becomes a reality i'd rather be Biafran

Thinly veiled Sarcasm!
So its only Igbos you can use as an example shebi Bkos you "love" them soo much
Lemme tell you...
Biafra is simply for all the Igbos in the SE & SS regions of Nigeria,and not inclusive of people living in the Western borderlands like you

[b]The 1914 amalgamation of the southern and northern protectorates of Nigeria by Lugard was an act of illegality. Even the protectorates themselves were illegal. My late Grandfather was born in 1902 as an Igbo man. He told me be fore he died that he never knew he had been made a "Nigerian" until 1920. My Grandfather was illegally made a Nigerian,as was my my father and as was me and there's no way I'm going let my children carry on with this illegal name of the whiteman. We must do what Lugard should have done before any amalgamation. We must conduct a referendum to decide who is Nigerian and who is not! Even Lugard knew what he was doing was wrong and inserted a clause in the Amalgamation document that after 100 years of nationhood, any people who were unhappy with Nigeria were free to go. This means that Nigeria became a scam as at 1st of January this year. There are only two ways out of this, a referendum or a war. And as an Igbo man, I'm prepared for either one!

There is nothing like one Nigeria [/b]

cheruv:

Thinly veiled Sarcasm!
So its only Igbos you can use as an example shebi Bkos you "love" them soo much
Lemme tell you...
Biafra is simply for all the Igbos in the SE & SS regions of Nigeria,and not inclusive of people living in the Western borderlands like you

You guys will grant citizenship to people who are interested, right?

hahn:


You guys will grant citizenship to people who are interested, right?

You'd ve to naturalize na and it entails
1]converting to Christianity
2]learning the Igbo lingo(this would be quite difficult for you kos Igbo has some sounds like CH,H,V & Z which are absent in Yoruba
3]adopting Igbo mannerisms of which include having a drive for excellence and merit etc

These are based on the fact that it'd be monoethnic in nature.in case our cousins to the South viz Mmoño and Izon join us,2&3 would depend on which of the 3 autonomous republics(Igbo ,Mmoño & Izon ARs) you decide to live in.

cheruv:


You'd ve to naturalize na and it entails
1]converting to Christianity

Why Christianity? Why not enforce total submission to Amadioha?

2]learning the Igbo lingo(this would be quite difficult for you kos Igbo has some sounds like CH,H,V & Z which are absent in Yoruba

I'm not Yoruba. And Igbo is not as hard as you make it sound afterall people learn chinese

3]adopting Igbo mannerisms of which include having a drive for excellence and merit etc

The drive for excellence is not an Igbo thing. People worldwide have achieved great things and they weren't Igbo. I am looking forward to the Nkwobi though

These are based on the fact that it'd be monoethnic in nature.in case our cousins to the South viz Mmoño and Izon join us,2&3 would depend on which of the 3 autonomous republics(Igbo ,Mmoño & Izon ARs) you decide to live in.

Till then

Omololu007:
see this fool,,so ugomba that is talking about southern Nigeria is a yoruba man abi daft fool,,when will ibos leaving in the south west return back to their state cause yorubas are back stabbers fool?

and this mouth odour is from where demented dunce get lost

hahn:


Till then

Not amadioha!
You've a poor knowledge of Igbo cosmology yet you wanna feel among
Its total submission to the will of the Great creator God who rules over the universe and is crowned King of Biafra.
He has a triad of messenger spirits who carry out his will on earth viz
- Ala
- Amadioha/Kamalu
- Ekwensu
No need going further on this path to avoid cases of missing persons

By the way,which ethnic nationality are you

.

cheruv:

Not amadioha!
You've a poor knowledge of Igbo cosmology yet you wanna feel among
Its total submission to the will of the Great creator God who rules over the universe and is crowned King of Biafra.
He has a triad of messenger spirits who carry out his will on earth viz
- Ala
- Amadioha/Kamalu
- Ekwensu
No need going further on this path to avoid cases of missing persons

By the way,which ethnic nationality are you

Ok. Now i get it. Lol @ feeling among.

This "god" you are referring to is a product of Jewish mythology, what has that got to do with Amadioha?

hahn:


Ok. Now i get it. Lol @ feeling among.

This "god" you are referring to is a product of Jewish mythology, what has that got to do with Amadioha?

Which Jewish mythology Abi you felt like saying something
We Igbos have been in existence for roughly 4000 years...and the God am referring to is Chukwu Okike Abiama and he exercises his will on earth through these 7 spirits viz
1]Ala :responsible for the land and fertility
2]Amadioha/Kamalu :responsible for the sky and dispensation of justice
3]Ekwensu :responsible for tricks, malevolence, illusions/dimensions, war,death and destruction
4]Ahiajioku/Njoku :responsible for food production especially yams
5]Agwu :responsible for the protection of the individual
6]Agbara :responsible for magick and communication btwn the human and spirit world
7]Ikenga :responsible for the firstborn sons and also the right to rule.

These 7 arusi are the the spirits tasked by Chukwu Abiama to oversee the world though the first three are the main guys.

Your name is German, isn't it?

cheruv:

Which Jewish mythology Abi you felt like saying something
We Igbos have been in existence for roughly 4000 years...and the God am referring to is Chukwu Okike Abiama and he exercises his will on earth through these 7 spirits viz
1]Ala :responsible for the land and fertility
2]Amadioha/Kamalu :responsible for the sky and dispensation of justice
3]Ekwensu :responsible for tricks, malevolence, illusions/dimensions, war,death and destruction
4]Ahiajioku/Njoku :responsible for food production especially yams
5]Agwu :responsible for the protection of the individual
6]Agbara :responsible for magick and communication btwn the human and spirit world
7]Ikenga :responsible for the firstborn sons and also the right to rule.

These 7 arusi are the the spirits tasked by Chukwu Abiama to oversee the world though the first three are the main guys.

Your name is German, isn't it?

Wow, this is cool. Do you guys also have a holy book i could go through to learn more.

Yeah, Hahn is a German name. I'm mixed but the other half ain't German

hahn:


Wow, this is cool. Do you guys also have a holy book i could go through to learn more.

Yeah, Hahn is a German name. I'm mixed but the other half ain't German

What's the other half?

cheruv:

What's the other half?

Scottish. What's the name of your holy book?

hahn:


Scottish. What's the name of your holy book?

A Celto-German hybrid

cheruv:

A Celto-German hybrid

Interesting.

Does your god send sinners to hell?

Its long overdue, et everyone manage its backyard so dt we can be free of d boko boys and almajiris and there born to rule bt not educated leaders

for what??..what would it bring??....with this step,you would distabilize the ol west africa.........

forget white-people,,,,lets think forward.................

hahn:


You're totally right.

But you didn't mention that Scotland declined to be separated from the UK

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/19/scotland-rejects-independence-uk_n_5847302.html

Nigeria's issues goes well beyond just the fact that we were forced to come together as a nation and we also have to consider just how much tribalism is dividing us. If the Ibos get Biafra, they are still going to be faced with the issue of Imbitse against Untu and this applies to every other part of Nigeria.

I believe our major issue is separating our cultural differences from the law.

cultural differences ain't our problem.

This whole ish ain't working for over 50 years now. It will never work, To separate na d koko

hahn:


Interesting.

Does your god send sinners to hell?

He abhors death...so the offenders are made to atone depending on his crime,but the heinous ones are met with ostracism and in severe cases slavery.
There's no hell..once you die,you join the spirits or ancestors, waiting to be reborn when your time comes

truefact:
Of course everybody should go their own way and those who want to merge together can...there is nothing like southern Nigeria. ...what we have in Nigeria is ethnic groups. ..each should choose who they want to team up with ...period

Simple as ABC.

BIAFRA IS COMING
THE ZOO MUST FALL
SE & SS except EDO are already UNITED
SW YORUBA should go to HELL

Ugomba:
its a LIE. The structure of this nation is faulty and lopsided. Deamalgamation is possible if the whole south can team up and demand for it.

the Yorubas will scuttle it because their oxygen supply is coming from hausa / fulani.

jabbok:
the Yorubas will scuttle it because their oxygen supply is coming from hausa / fulani.

I hate to say this, but the sons of Odualand need to sit down and ask themselves some thought provoking questions. E.g

1) Why do our Southern brothers see us as backstabbers?
2) Why are we usually the pawns used by the north to scuttle the plans of the South?
3) Why do we always lose our voice when Southern interest is been threatened? eg Boko haram slaughter of Christians up north and other sharia related activities.
4) Why do we make noise, heat the polity, but hide when its time to take responsiblility?
5) Lastly, what do we as a race stand for in Nigeria. The Hausa/Fulani are born to rule supremacist and pro-north, the Igbos are republicans and pro-south, the middle belt are anti sharia and anti-hausanization, the Niger-Delta are for resource control. What stance are we sons of Yorubaland known for? What are we known for?