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Re: Sixth & Seventh Books Of Moses Initiates Meet Here by Danny777(m): 2:49pm On Jan 18, 2017 |
Pls is there anybody here who can throw a bit more light on how to use these great books to get the desired results? thanks. |
Re: Sixth & Seventh Books Of Moses Initiates Meet Here by Tampinu(m): 8:11pm On Jul 17, 2017 |
Jameselias: Being enlightened does not really mean that you have to focus on money and financial benedictions, please see a summary of the attributes of an enlightened one below with special attention to the bold section, (it can also be termed a magic practitioner etc): Lévi's (Re: Eliphas Levi) works are filled with various definitions for "Magic" and the "Magician": Magic "To practice magic is to be a quack; to know magic is to be a sage." "Magic is the divinity of man conquered by science in union with faith; the true Magi are Men-Gods, in virtue of their intimate union with the divine principle."[19] Magician "He looks on the wicked as invalids whom one must pity and cure; the world, with its errors and vices, is to him God's hospital, and he wishes to serve in it." "They are without fears and without desires, dominated by no falsehood, sharing no error, loving without illusion, suffering without impatience, reposing in the quietude of eternal thought... a Magus cannot be ignorant, for magic implies superiority, mastership, majority, and majority signifies emancipation by knowledge. The Magus welcomes pleasure, accepts wealth, deserves honour, but is never the slave of one of them; he knows how to be poor, to abstain, and to suffer; he endures oblivion willingly because he is lord of his own happiness, and expects or fears nothing from the caprice of fortune. He can love without being beloved; he can create imperishable treasures, and exalt himself above the level of honours or the prizes of the lottery. He possesses that which he seeks, namely, profound peace. He regrets nothing which must end, but remembers with satisfaction that he has met with good in all. His hope is a certitude, for he knows that good is eternal and evil transitory. He enjoys solitude, but does not fly the society of man; he is a child with children, joyous with the young, staid with the old, patient with the foolish, happy with the wise. He smiles with all who smile, and mourns with all who weep; applauding strength, he is yet indulgent to weakness; offending no one, he has himself no need to pardon, for he never thinks himself offended; he pities those who misconceive him, and seeks an opportunity to serve them; by the force of kindness only does he avenge himself on the ungrateful..." "Judge not; speak hardly at all; love and act." Give thanks Peace, Love & Light! |
Re: Sixth & Seventh Books Of Moses Initiates Meet Here by Paulscholari(m): 9:01pm On Jul 17, 2017 |
Lolz, I don't do Books of moses yet spirits appear to me in dreams wanting me to command them or to do their will so they can bless me, what kind of rubbish is that, am I conjuring them with my mind. |
Re: Sixth & Seventh Books Of Moses Initiates Meet Here by Tampinu(m): 9:22pm On Jul 17, 2017 |
Paulscholari: What it means is that your psychic abilities are sharpened and alert more than that of the average person. You need to develop them further and get as full an understanding of yourself as possible. That is when you will be able to make the most of your blessings and talent in that regard. The SSB can help you to further in that regard, but it's important to understand yourself, your strengths and don't let the talent and blessings go to waste. One thing is for a person to dream, another thing is to dream and remember the dream so vividly; they are blessings as it makes it easier to attempt to decode or understand those dreams. Firstly, I will urge you to read the Holy Bible for a start, Maybe try and read the Whole of Genesis at your leisure (even if one chapter daily); then afterwards, pray and ask the Holy Spirit to direct u on where to read....You will be amazed! It also helps if you read Psalm 19 as the last act before you go to bed, make it a habit and do it daily....See the difference after 9days (most likely even before then!) As much as you can, try not to obey or disobey the spirit until you have gained some significant spiritual fitness, this may be achieved within a few days if you follow the directions above. If all goes as u plan, don't thank me, Thank God. Peace 1 Like |
Re: Sixth & Seventh Books Of Moses Initiates Meet Here by Nobody: 9:33pm On Jul 17, 2017 |
Tampinu: Pretty good advice. I would also add that the gentleman should learn to meditate. 1 Like |
Re: Sixth & Seventh Books Of Moses Initiates Meet Here by Tampinu(m): 9:44pm On Jul 17, 2017 |
Sarassin:Thanks Sarassin. I would reason that prayer is tantamount to meditation as far as spiritual parlance is concerned. Check it, I never read about, for example, Jesus meditating. Whereas there is ample evidence of Jesus praying... Nevertheless, I understand the two to be more or less the same. |
Re: Sixth & Seventh Books Of Moses Initiates Meet Here by Tampinu(m): 9:57pm On Jul 17, 2017 |
Divinerspell: I commend your patience and compassion in sharing this much info despite some of the audience not deserving to access it. Bless your heart. I wouldn't have bovvered..lol |
Re: Sixth & Seventh Books Of Moses Initiates Meet Here by Nobody: 9:58pm On Jul 17, 2017 |
Tampinu: I'm very keen to read Sarrassins response to this post regarding prayer vs meditation... Although I'm still a bit ticked off at a sarcastic response he gave to a very serious comment I made in a topic a few days back. |
Re: Sixth & Seventh Books Of Moses Initiates Meet Here by Nobody: 10:02pm On Jul 17, 2017 |
Tampinu: Agreed, Jesus prayed but we see also in Matt 4:1-11 He is led in spirit in the wilderness and fasts for 40 days during which he faces enormous temptations. In meditative state Jesus was constrained to make a choice between his human desires and divine aspirations. When you pray your dialogue is external, when you meditate your dialogue is internal. |
Re: Sixth & Seventh Books Of Moses Initiates Meet Here by Nobody: 10:05pm On Jul 17, 2017 |
parisienne: Dear Parisienne, there was no intention of sarcasm on my part towards you, I would never do that. I meant in that post to say that I had actually counselled a few women with respect to the animal Spirit of Rabbit, which actually is a Divine emissary of fertility. I am sorry if you read it wrong. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Sixth & Seventh Books Of Moses Initiates Meet Here by Tampinu(m): 10:09pm On Jul 17, 2017 |
parisienne: Some will reason that meditation implies a subjective "looking within" kinda thought process, whereas prayer is to "communicate" in a two-way process, that is, exchange of thoughts and ideas with a higher being etc They will further reason that that higher being is within you and that takes us back to the base of their argument that meditation deals with internal thought process, rather than exchange process. Frankly, I simply think to meditate is to think/pray/commune with one's heart....see Psalm 4 "Commune with your own heart upon your bed and be STILL!" 1 Like |
Re: Sixth & Seventh Books Of Moses Initiates Meet Here by Tampinu(m): 10:14pm On Jul 17, 2017 |
Sarassin: Honestly I have already replied and answered this comment above in another response I sent before I had seen this comment to which I am currently replying. I had mentioned that people would think it is "internal" re: mediation....Maybe we can discuss that further afterr u see my response about which I typed above. Now, being in the spirit simply means "fasting"...it does not imply meditation unless we are broadly stating the obvious that when we are fasting we are meditating at the same time. That is a statement that can be said to be generally correct. To be in spirit means that we are fasting as we are not sustained by any earthly materia e.g, water from stream, fruits from trees, food from farm etc A fasting person is exclusively sustained by spiritual provision. Peace |
Re: Sixth & Seventh Books Of Moses Initiates Meet Here by Nobody: 10:17pm On Jul 17, 2017 |
Sarassin: Then please accept my apologies, I must have misinterpreted that post. 1 Like |
Re: Sixth & Seventh Books Of Moses Initiates Meet Here by Nobody: 10:20pm On Jul 17, 2017 |
Tampinu: Nice contribution. 1 Like |
Re: Sixth & Seventh Books Of Moses Initiates Meet Here by Tampinu(m): 10:21pm On Jul 17, 2017 |
parisienne: Sorry I forgot to add that all my Bible references are from King James version (KJV) Peace 1 Like |
Re: Sixth & Seventh Books Of Moses Initiates Meet Here by Tampinu(m): 10:38pm On Jul 17, 2017 |
Tampinu: Having said that, we all fast daily.....When we sleep! Imagine how fat we would all be if we didn't fast whilst sleeping? That's why we wake up and eat "Break-fast" in order to break our fast. Now its clear to see why sleep is, indeed, a very spiritual affair. Peace |
Re: Sixth & Seventh Books Of Moses Initiates Meet Here by vikithor(m): 10:47pm On Jul 17, 2017 |
@ sixth n seventh books of Moses, The word of my Lord,saviour,elder brother,Jesus;his father,God and by the help of the sweet companion,holy spirit,I testified that I am contented with the gospel,for it is the power of God unto salvation I need no 5,6,7,8,9th ..... book -The Church of Jesus Christ of Later Days Saints, Restoring the original n complete gospel of Christ in this generation |
Re: Sixth & Seventh Books Of Moses Initiates Meet Here by Nobody: 10:55pm On Jul 17, 2017 |
Tampinu: Thanks for taking the trouble to reply. I agree with you that broadly speaking meditation is a practice of looking inwards. Different things mean different things to different people therefore to me, meditative practice is not necessarily the same that could apply to Christian introspection. There is an entire vista of meditation that is not apparent to Christianity, which in my view is far more powerful than prayer. So when I use the term meditation, I use it in the Eastern form that it is a gateway to Man’s spirituality. Progenitors of the great religions of the world, be it Christianity, Islam or Hinduism have all mastered the art of meditation to attain Gnosis or spiritual enlightenment if you will. I see fasting as a much more "technical" issue, a form of deprivation which produces within us a state that makes us receptive to the spiritual realm, we can achieve this state in a variety of ways including through sleep deprivation, the practice of Pranayama (rhythmic breathing) and even chanting. For me, to be in spirit is to be in an altered state of awareness, such that when I cast my gaze on the spirit world, I see and then I choose to be seen. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Sixth & Seventh Books Of Moses Initiates Meet Here by Tampinu(m): 11:03pm On Jul 17, 2017 |
Sarassin: I hear what you are saying but put it this way, "meditation" is probably a relatively modern term compared to "commune with your own heart" which was perhaps more commonly used to describe the act of meditation in King James' time. I try to keep everything in life simple and I have found life more interesting that way. I try to live like an ancient man who knows God and fears the King so I do as the King directs and I haven't heard the king(s) say that anything was more powerful than prayer (aside from, say fasting and giving of alms). Peace |
Re: Sixth & Seventh Books Of Moses Initiates Meet Here by Nobody: 11:15pm On Jul 17, 2017 |
Tampinu: Meditative practice has been in use circa 5000BCE, its documented use in the Vedas dates to around 1500BCE so you may agree with me that there’s nothing relatively modern about it. Its use predates even the Canaanite origins of the Book of Psalms that date to around 1000BCE. But I do agree that there’s value in keeping things simple, I bid you a very good evening. 1 Like |
Re: Sixth & Seventh Books Of Moses Initiates Meet Here by Tampinu(m): 11:24pm On Jul 17, 2017 |
Sarassin: I think you may have misunderstood me, I was implying that the term/word/spellings "Meditation" may be relatively modern (Not the actual act of meditation which has always been an ancient practice). The whole point is just to say that mediation and prayer can be interchangeably used espeacially by people who are new to the enlightenment journey. If I advise someone to pray and he returns to tell me that he did not pray but he meditated instead, I'll be happy for him. Likewise, if I ask him to meditate and he returns to say that he had prayed instead, I will be pleased with him same way. I don't think two people should disagree simply because one meditates and the other prays. Humanity need to focus more on what is ion common, not on differences. Have a nice night too... 1 Like |
Re: Sixth & Seventh Books Of Moses Initiates Meet Here by Tampinu(m): 11:36pm On Jul 17, 2017 |
otemanuduno: Some strange and offensive comments right there, mate. But each to his own... |
Re: Sixth & Seventh Books Of Moses Initiates Meet Here by AlvanT(m): 9:34am On Jul 20, 2017 |
Sarassin:Sir is it my mere imagination if I see zombies in my dream or even get a bit from one? and how can I master the act of lucid dreaming? |
Re: Sixth & Seventh Books Of Moses Initiates Meet Here by AlvanT(m): 9:36am On Jul 20, 2017 |
Sarassin:Which is more effective prayer or meditation,I meaning in terms of making your desires known to God/the Universe Sir. |
Re: Sixth & Seventh Books Of Moses Initiates Meet Here by Tampinu(m): 12:39pm On Jul 20, 2017 |
AlvanT: I guess we can't answer that question until we have agreed on teh difference between prayer and meditation (if at all there is any difference!) As far as prayer is concerned, I'm happy to be like "Christ" and pray too...I read about prophets who meditated I would also copy them, though as previously said Psalm 4 exhorts us to meditate, although it doesn't use the words "Meditate". Cheers |
Re: Sixth & Seventh Books Of Moses Initiates Meet Here by Nobody: 3:39pm On Jul 20, 2017 |
AlvanT: It is not really a question of either, or Meditation serves to clear and focus the mind and make you receptive. Your prayer (I always state my will) is equally important and must be properly framed in clear concise terms that your sub-conscious can process. It is in fact your subconscious that delivers your prayers. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Sixth & Seventh Books Of Moses Initiates Meet Here by Tampinu(m): 10:39pm On Jul 20, 2017 |
Sarassin: This will imply that meditation and prayers are the same thing. Psalm 1, 4 and 19 (KJV) refer to acts of "meditation", although Psalm 4 did not expressly term it "meditation". Therefore it is correct to say that there are Biblical pointers to 'meditation'; however, my reasoning is that such acts that are considered meditation are also referred to as "prayers" in other parts of the Bible. For example, whereas we have "The Lord's Prayer"; there is nothing like "The Lord's meditation"; this is not to imply that the "Lord" is incapable of meditating. I guess it simply means that they have referred to that specific act of meditation as "Prayer". There's no conclusive evidence that a conclusive biblical distinction exist between prayer and meditation. Hence the reason why I personally feel that there is, indeed, no difference between the two terms and I certainly use the two words interchangeably. |
Re: Sixth & Seventh Books Of Moses Initiates Meet Here by Nobody: 11:40pm On Jul 20, 2017 |
Tampinu: It depends largely on if you define meditation by very narrow biblical terms. The Lord’s Prayer is exactly that, a prayer, a supplication to Divine God. But we can in fact meditate on the Lord’s Prayer, in parts we can meditate on the Hallowed names of God, on Divine will, Forgiveness and Divine Glory. This then removes one from the role of the supplicant and places one on the path of an inwards journey towards the form of God. Irrespective of biblical distinction I would not use the terms interchangeably, in my view they are two different things entirely, we simply agree to disagree. |
Re: Sixth & Seventh Books Of Moses Initiates Meet Here by Tampinu(m): 4:39am On Jul 21, 2017 |
Sarassin: I hear what you are saying, but as I have said I have no evidence of "the Lord's meditation", whereas there is ample proof that the Lord did pray; having said that, I am not really coming from a standpoint that says that the Bible is the ultimate authority on the definition of meditation, just stating that that (Biblical definitions) is where I'm coming from. As far as eye can see, the Bible seems to use the term interchangeably. For example, in the Book of Samuel; 1 Samuel 1:13 King James Version (KJV) 13 Now Hannah, she spake in her heart; only her lips moved, but her voice was not heard: therefore Eli thought she had been drunken. Now, is it correct to describe Hannah as "praying"? Is it equally right to say that Hannah was "meditating"? Or are we to say it is wrong to describe Hannah as "meditating"? The point is, the communication can be internal and represent an exchange at teh same time! Based on Psalm 19, I am inclined to say that Hannah was meditating as it was "in her heart"; but based on Hannah's own admission in verse 15 (and on Sarassin's comments that a Prayer keeps the person praying in a supplicant's role) we have no other option but to classify Hannah's act as a "Prayer"! She was, according to verse 15, very obviously a supplicant at that moment, not looking within but pouring out her soul to God! 1 Samuel 1:15 King James Version (KJV) 15 And Hannah answered and said, No, my lord, I am a woman of a sorrowful spirit: I have drunk neither wine nor strong drink, but have poured out my soul before the Lord. Check it, Psalm 19 says "let the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart..", it could as well have interchangeably stated: "And the prayers of my heart!!" (Just like Hannah) Also, my earlier replies should show that I understand perfectly the reasoning and arguments of those who see prayer and meditation as different activities (for I had even spelt out the specific nature of that argument); that is, they reason that meditation is internal and prayer is an externalised exchange communication with a higher power. Finally, your comment above only goes to buttress my point that the two acts can be interchangeably used. For example: But we can in fact meditate on the Lord’s Prayer, in parts we can meditate on the Hallowed names of God, on Divine will, Forgiveness and Divine Glory. This then removes one from the role of the supplicant and places one on the path of an inwards journey towards the form of God. I can rightly say, likewise: "But we can in fact PRAY on the "Lord's Prayer" (to ask for it to be kept safely in our hearts etc), in parts we can PRAY on the Hallowed names of God, on Divine will, Forgiveness and Divine Glory. This then keeps one in the role of the supplicant (I don't mind perpetually remaining in a supplicant's role as Jesus taught us in the Lord's prayer), and places one on the path of an inwards journey towards the form of God. (To acknowledge and be expectant of the God within, to whom we have prayed, just as Jesus had taught that the temple is within you!)....seen? How about that? But like you said, agreement may preceed disagreement. Walk good. 1 Like |
Re: Sixth & Seventh Books Of Moses Initiates Meet Here by Tampinu(m): 7:23pm On Jul 21, 2017 |
vikithor: Are you saying that the 6th and 7th books of Moses are not the word of my Lord,saviour,elder brother,Jesus;his father,God? But if you use the Bible in your church, it means that you already using the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th Books of Moses... Is there any specific reason why you dislike the numbers 6,7,8, and 9? |
Re: Sixth & Seventh Books Of Moses Initiates Meet Here by Hopemoney(m): 4:42pm On Jul 25, 2017 |
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Re: Sixth & Seventh Books Of Moses Initiates Meet Here by Beyhiodie(m): 1:55am On Jul 26, 2017 |
hehehehehehehe. All these he posted was to scare me away on purpose. As per madness, I can't run mad. Am still determined to learn d way to use d book. Initiate means priest. I clearly can't be a priest. Thanks for d warning tho. I found out something, everytime u warn me, I always disobey and nothing bad happens. Remember dat kundalini stuff, I downloaded 30 binaural beats and even took a substance(I g b o) but still am standing. If dat one no make me run mad, na dis one?. LolsThe reason why you are still standing is that God is expecting you to change your ways. It's called second chance and not everybody get it. Repent and be born again. Leave the dark fro the world |
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