Teempakguy:
i think that anything on a 'higher energy level' doesn't even exist/cannot exist in this universe and therefore is outside the realm of what we are looking for. which is alien lifeform in this universe.

if we can find bacteria life on mars, it will go a long way to prove what life really is. of course, religion will find a way to cirumnavigate around that as well.

Teempakguy:
i think that anything on a 'higher energy level' doesn't even exist/cannot exist in this universe and therefore is outside the realm of what we are looking for. which is alien lifeform in this universe.

if we can find bacteria life on mars, it will go a long way to prove what life really is. of course, religion will find a way to cirumnavigate around that as well.

kkash:

any proof dat nothing can exist in higher energy levels?

bqlekan:

I don't agree with this.. I believe there are things beyond our energy level, waiting to be discovered..

Teempakguy:
i did not say anything cannot exist at higher energy levels. i said, that nothing that exists in higher energy level can be accounted for in this universe.

KingEbukasBlog:


Difference of 0.8 billion years - 800 million years , 8 million centuries , 8 hundred thousand millennia , 250 billion days - evidently can't be seen/viewed as "immediately "

Annunaki:


What do you want to about know us?

wiegraf:


How did you evolve wings? Seriously, we don't know how some dinosaurs managed it.

Also, do you taste like turkey?

KingEbukasBlog:
I'm a christian

Nmeri17:
The respect I had for you skyrocketed after I read quite an intelligible argument you made on some thread in the religion section and ever since, I have been a secret admirer.

However, presently, I am unable to describe how tasking it is, reconciling the appalling comments I'm seeing with the monicker peddling it.

"You strongly believe God created life in far away planets"?? impressive school of thought!! May I ask: as a Christian, what purpose does this life serve in God's overall scheme of things?? do they have their own Jesus and "run the race to meet their Redeemer"??

still based on the premise that "I'm a Christian ", do you not believe man is metaphorically the center of the universe and God's six days of creation??

theAtheist101:
There would certainly be, at least, in other solar systems. My fear is that they should not be more technologically advance than us here, so that we are not all colonised again!

bqlekan:
Lalasticlala abeg bro, help push this thread sir

we are waiting

johnydon22:


Lmao. . my best guess is that we might establish interplanetary and galactic diplomatic ties with these advanced life forms .

Watch this cartoon called "Miles from tomorrow" it is a futuristic cartoon of how man's space science and technology will improve and how easy and much more we will understand the universe owing to the diplomatic ties developed with many alien species under one banner TTA... we are all products of this universe

bi0nics:

Seriously?

johnydon22:
It's a guess..

johnydon22:
It's a guess..

tobimillar:




What if the aliens are no more advanced than we? What if they live 70,000 light years from us and only became 'intelligent' 60,000 years ago? Whatever emissions they release won't be detected for another 10,000 years.

I don't automatically assume that if there are aliens, that they must be able to zip around the galaxy at warp-9. They could be just a bunch of cavemen shitting in a hole


speed of light is an issue. what we see when we look up at the night's sky is actually an image from millions of years ago. if someone were looking at us from one of those solar systems they would see our solar system as it was millions of years ago too. well before the invention of the internet

johnydon22:


This is true, so these interstellar travels can only be possible if the speed of light can be achieved for man.

Like blackjewelry said, using nuclear power. . . Or maybe we could come up a teleporting device like found in Avengers 1 (sci-fi) that opens a pathway for distant galaxies in a matter of seconds.

like a mini wormhole.

Even though these seem far fetched to us now, the future holds a lot of promises am sure...

tobimillar:


We can't achieve anything with the speed of light except of course teleporting is developed which I doubt. Even with the speed of light,it will take million or billions of year to reach the nearest galaxy



So there is a statistically zero possibility of alien life

johnydon22:


Lmao. . my best guess is that we might establish interplanetary and galactic diplomatic ties with these advanced life forms .

Watch this cartoon called "Miles from tomorrow" it is a futuristic cartoon of how man's space science and technology will improve and how easy and much more we will understand the universe owing to the diplomatic ties developed with many alien species under one banner TTA... we are all products of this universe

theAtheist101:


What happens before the sitting at the round table? I just hope it is not messy!

johnydon22:


Lmao. . my best guess is that we might establish interplanetary and galactic diplomatic ties with these advanced life forms .

Watch this cartoon called "Miles from tomorrow" it is a futuristic cartoon of how man's space science and technology will improve and how easy and much more we will understand the universe owing to the diplomatic ties developed with many alien species under one banner TTA... we are all products of this universe

hahn:


Why is everyone of the opinion that aliens, if they exist, will be more advanced than us? What if aliens just happen to be more primitive than us?

Let's take Mars for instance, it can be possible that whatever life that exists there do not have the intelligence to harness their resources like we have and might even find the first landing of earthlings as a visitation of the gods

johnydon22:


No i don't think they are more advanced. i think the possibilities span both ways. . .we are not dealing with just one..

within the whole universe they might be ones that are highly civilized, primitive ones and microbile life ...

KingEbukasBlog:


Wow .... Thanks

Hmmm

You see , like I always said , the purpose of the creation of the universe is to be inhabited by intelligent moral agents to whom God will reveal Himself to . If this purpose has been completely understood then it answers your question : "Do they have their own Jesus and run the race to meet their Redeemer " . The same God in those planets not really "their own Jesus " or "their Redeemer"

The earth is not 6, 000 years and the 6 days creation is not metaphorical . The 6 days of creation has to do with the restoration of the earth .

You can read here for more understanding ( A thread I created ): https://www.nairaland.com/2305535/dealing-misconceptions-10-things-bible

I dont really understand what you mean by man is the center of the universe . If you mean that the human being is the most important of all of God's creations then yes because we were created in His image and likeness .

"Let us create man in our image and likeness " - this could mean that we have created other intelligent moral agents in other planets , lets create one that looks like us .

Nmeri17:

orai. so during eternity it's likely we'll dwell in the Heavenlies with these aliens abi?? or will they have their own heaven separate??

I've been there before and I think you'd rather not want to hear what I think about your "conceptions". If I may ask, who was it that granted you the lordly rights to draw up non scriptural based conceptions to challenge the authenticity and infallible accuracy of the Word Itself??

If I logged into my nl account and found someone had hacked into it in order to create a thread making such hideous claims, I'd deactivate both the nl account and the email address it is attached to before incinerating the hacked device and reducing it to ashes.
Because Ebuka, you see, misleading oneself is one thing; but when you start making conscious efforts to beguile others into your (mis)direction, things can get quite complicated from there.

by man being the center of the universe, I mean the universe revolving around mankind. They exist because we are. Rains fell because Adam had to till the hard ground. And so it is with everything else "YOU" know.

But this here, is something we would never agree upon. When you start mixing faith with what you call "EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE", you'll keep knocking on walls thinking they're doors

Dekatron:
Teempakguy, menesheh, johnydon22, bqlekan, theAtheist101, and my fellow members of the Nairaland science community. I am sorry for returning late. Believe me, I have alot of both silly and good reasons from low data to laziness. Okay. Done!!


You see, since I knew about how big the universe is. . . Was I 14 or 15? #Osei yaw Ababio - New School Chemistry. I read abt planets there at the end of the book (read VIRTUALLY PALI TO PALI. LOL), I believed that ALIENS MUST DEFINATELY EXIST. I mean, apart from the goldilock zone, THE PROBABILITY/REALITY OF US EXISTING CAN BE EQUALIZED TO THEM ALSO!! I mean, if we could exist, why not GREEN MEN - thanks to Hollywood for that shiit.


Now that water flows on Our SISTER MARS, I think there is MORE probability that life exists, albeit MICROBIOLOGICAL. We started from that (don't give me the red eye, I am an atheist. Thank you), if we are past that, others can also start from that!! Who knows if that is the way life can start in our SOLAR SYSTEM? Atleast the only available option is that :- SKY DADDY DID IT which is actually scientifically A PARADOX (na u sabi wetin paradox is oo). . . . . My thing is :- YES, THEY DEFINATELY EXIST, BUT LIKE MANY POINTED OUT, THEY ARE EITHER IN LESS TECHNOLOGICALLY INCLINED ERA THAN US OR THAT THEY SEE US AS BRATS DUE TO STRIFES AND VICES HERE (Over to social scientists. Good luck solving that). Its either of the two. Yes, I BELIEVE IN ALIENS and MAYBE OUR EINSTEIN, FEYNMAN (yea, My MENTOR) , PLANC, DIRAC, DESCARTES, FERMAT (oops, hope you ain't pissed, teempakguy!!), NEWTON, LEIBNIZ and others are actually HIGH SCHOOL KIDS LOL. I'd say :- we are in deep shiit



@johnydon22 & teem, its actually poseidon. I like that name and I will name my smart RC boat any year I start building - Project Poseidon!!

tobimillar:


We can't achieve anything with the speed of light except of course teleporting is developed which I doubt. Even with the speed of light,it will take million or billions of year to reach the nearest galaxy



So there is a statistically zero possibility of alien life