obailala:
It is not a silly explanation. Sea piracy is a MAJOR problem in these areas. I know personally about the warri port; piracy killed the port. Not long ago when sea pirates were attacked by the air force, certain group of people criticised the attack on pirates because their heads are only configures to see things through the microscopic prism of politics/ethnicity; they defended the criminals because they felt since the president was from the north then he had no right to fight even southern criminals.

Bro, security in the water ways was one of the biggest problems which cripled the ports in the Niger delta. Oil companies you refer to have the money and they pay billions yearly to secure their vessels and properties. Private business men dont have that kind of caash.

jaymichael:
The answer is just one, MILITANCY/PIRACY. Those Niger Delta waterways are not safe. Apart from threats of kidnapping, it is more expensive for the shipping companies and shipping agents to operate that route as they have to settle or pay "escort" money to each community they pass. The cost is then passed on to the consignees. Security (or lack of it) is a serious impediment to the optimal utilization of Portharcourt port.

stanech:


so if those pirates decide to attack Lagos should we now close our Lagos ports? are u saying our fg can't protect our water from mere pirates?

if they can attack warri and pH why can't they attack Lagos .
bros again

redsconsult:
Lagos sea port has more depth or draught of like 13m which is the deepest of all seaports presently in the country which can contain larger ships and cargoes compare to pH. If the pH port needs to be fully utilize there most be crios dredging of nothing more than 12 to 15m dept from its present 7m dept or there about. More investment need to channel in that region to ease the congestion at lagos port and to save life and properties on our roads

ArodewilliamsT:


But the Otedolas, Mai deribes, Dangotes, Alakijas and other Fulani/hausa oil billionaires still have their ships using the same 'dangerous" routes to lift crude?

But Ships travelling to cameroon, Congo, Central african republic and other central african countries still go through the same 'dangerous' route to their respective ports. Kai yoruba, are you people so cursed with hypocrisy that you now assume everybody is just as daft as you are?

Anyway, Igweocha is waking up and very fast too.

obailala:
It is not a silly explanation. Sea piracy is a MAJOR problem in these areas. I know personally about the warri port; piracy killed the port. Not long ago when sea pirates were attacked by the air force, certain group of people criticised the attack on pirates because their heads are only configures to see things through the microscopic prism of politics/ethnicity; they defended the criminals because they felt since the president was from the north then he had no right to fight even southern criminals.

Bro, security in the water ways was one of the biggest problems which cripled the ports in the Niger delta. Oil companies you refer to have the money and they pay billions yearly to secure their vessels and properties. Private business men dont have that kind of caash.

obailala:
It would not be allowed to happen in Lagos, in fact, it cannot happen in Lagos and I can explain why. You know what happens when you are pushed to the wall?.. You simply turn back, face the problem headlong and fight. Lagos being the last surviving port, it cannot be allowed to go down because of its necessity.

In the 90's, Warri used to be a great business hub for oil and gas companies. There was hardly any major oil company which didnt have operations or offices in Warri. But insecurity upon insecurity made the town unattractive and chased businesses away. Belligerent youths would stroll into a company yard and demand the companies to 'settle' or to pay development levy a.k.a 'deve'. It got so ridiculous that even private businesses and individuals weren't left out. Consequently, companies started leaving one by one and even recently, the almighty shell has also left and rendered the town desolate.

Now most of these companies relocated to PH and Lagos and then the same problem faced in warri arose in PH. But guess what?... companies were tired of moving around, Some which couldn't cope ran to Lagos, others were just forced to live with it. Why am I saying all these stories?... If the same problem which forced importers to run to Lagos comes to Lagos, there would be no where else to run to hence the problem would be tackled headlong.

obailala:
It would not be allowed to happen in Lagos, in fact, it cannot happen in Lagos and I can explain why. You know what happens when you are pushed to the wall?.. You simply turn back, face the problem headlong and fight. Lagos being the last surviving port, it cannot be allowed to go down because of its necessity.

In the 90's, Warri used to be a great business hub for oil and gas companies. There was hardly any major oil company which didnt have operations or offices in Warri. But insecurity upon insecurity made the town unattractive and chased businesses away. Belligerent youths would stroll into a company yard and demand the companies to 'settle' or to pay development levy a.k.a 'deve'. It got so ridiculous that even private businesses and individuals weren't left out. Consequently, companies started leaving one by one and even recently, the almighty shell has also left and rendered the town desolate.

Now most of these companies relocated to PH and Lagos and then the same problem faced in warri arose in PH. But guess what?... companies were tired of moving around, Some which couldn't cope ran to Lagos, others were just forced to live with it. Why am I saying all these stories?... If the same problem which forced importers to run to Lagos comes to Lagos, there would be no where else to run to hence the problem would be tackled headlong.

new2020:


Lagos port depth has absolutely nothing to do with this. This is a well orchestrated and engineered blockade. IF THEY CAN BUILD A CITY AS ABUJA SOLELY FROM THE PROCEEDS OF OIL, THEY COULD HAVE DREDGED PORT HARCOURT 30 YRS AGO. There is a lot of injustice in this country that has reach CRITICAL MASS...beyond resolution.

cuteboy2:


Underutilisation of Ph, Warri, Onitsha, Koko and Calabar ports preceded militancy in Niger Delta.

Calabar port was a classic example. Underutilisation started since Shagari email during 2nd Republic when NPA refused to dredge the approach to the port even when money is voted money annually for it. They simply chopped the money. Second matter that killed Calabar port was bad Road linking Calabar to the North and the Eastern heartland. Importers suffered huge loses due to falling trailers and stuck trailers, so they stopped patronising the port.

jaymichael:
PH port is a cargo port. The port/terminal these oil vessels use are different from cargo ports. If PH port is underutilized, the fault lies with Igbos like you, why do you route your cargoes through Apapa and TINCAN, why not fill PH when opening your form M. Don't you people control 95% of importation again? or is it The Yoruba that domiciles in sw that will route his cargo via PH? you lots are so blinded by tribalism hate and lies that your brains have totally believed your delusions. If you had read my previous posts, you will know that I said most ports in the ND are used by mostly the oil industry who care less about the cost but are concerned mostly about proximity and convenience. I also stated that ND and Eastern business men do use the ports too but most times out of absolute necessity.Tell your people when importing to always use PH port and STOP COMPLAINING THAT IT IS YORUBA PEOPLE THAT ARE PREVENTING YOU FROM UTILIZING PH PORT. Educating bigots like you is pointless and me am not ready to bathe a live porcupine.

redsconsult:
dept of sea ports matters. It determines type of cargo that can berth at the seaport. If u know the amount and resources needed to dredge a meter depth of 1 nautical miles you will be able to understand what it will take to dredge a longer distance to the gulf of guinea and also to a certain depth of 15m from 7m.

new2020:


My friend stop this deflection...it pisses me off.

jaymichael:
It is not that they stop their ships and settle everybody like how they settle motor park touts on the highway. It's as if it's a "racket" sort of. Some strong men or powerful chiefs control a particular stretch of water. To avoid kidnapping and/or other kinds of problems, they settle them before hand. You may live in the ND but if you are not in the logistics business over there, or you are not part of the "racket" you may never know what goes on in the waters. Like I said earlier, it is a shipping agency manager that explained the problems they are having in the ND and he specifically told me that those (cargo) ports will continue to be underutilized because of these problems.

obailala:
It would not be allowed to happen in Lagos, in fact, it cannot happen in Lagos and I can explain why. You know what happens when you are pushed to the wall?.. You simply turn back, face the problem headlong and fight. Lagos being the last surviving port, it cannot be allowed to go down because of its necessity.

In the 90's, Warri used to be a great business hub for oil and gas companies. There was hardly any major oil company which didnt have operations or offices in Warri. But insecurity upon insecurity made the town unattractive and chased businesses away. Belligerent youths would stroll into a company yard and demand the companies to 'settle' or to pay development levy a.k.a 'deve'. It got so ridiculous that even private businesses and individuals weren't left out. Consequently, companies started leaving one by one and even recently, the almighty shell has also left and rendered the town desolate.

Now most of these companies relocated to PH and Lagos and then the same problem faced in warri arose in PH. But guess what?... companies were tired of moving around, Some which couldn't cope ran to Lagos, others were just forced to live with it. Why am I saying all these stories?... If the same problem which forced importers to run to Lagos comes to Lagos, there would be no where else to run to hence the problem would be tackled headlong.

patmaine:




that shipping agency manager has been lying to you

Dannyset:

Please convince me on how dealing in Sea port that involves and cater for a whole region(if not a country) is the same thing with oil lifting. Do you really know what it is to have a working Ports in violence prone environment? Or you think Sea ports isn't for Private and Public parastatals?

Duru1:
It is due to a determined conspiracy between Yari.ba, Hausa, Fulani, Kanuri and rest of them from northern region. The unfortunate appearance of Yari.ba and expendable minorities in the southern Nigeria has been a death wish to the region of southern Nigeria. The fact is that goofy and so-called Ijo and few other minorities in the southern Nigeria would prefer southern Nigeria to be an impenetrable jungle as long it does not benefit Igbo man. This is one of the reasons I vehemently call for disintegration of the cesspit called Nigeria and proclamation of Republic of Igbo land or even restructured Biafra.

stanech:


Inotherwords the fg will only face the problem when it gets to Lagos is that not a deliberate effort to frustrate the zone.
You are talking about the actions of the youth but not talking about the fact that it all started when other oil companies and other multinationals operating in the area would rather fill up their companies with other tribes leaving the owners of the land without jobs.

I think the federal government should make efforts to install a viable seaport in Ph and provide all the necessary machinery to make it work. It won't be that difficult to do.
PS all these illegal levy collection is still going on in the southwest especially in Lagos so don't make it sound like it is a ss problem

jaymichael:
Learn to Learn, ignorance makes one appear dumb. Am into the logistics business. I am a freight forwarder. Who tell you the oil companies and the shipping agents to those oil vessels don't settle "community" It is mostly oil companies that ship essential equipments through PH port. Though some business men business men do ship goods through PH port, but the rate is very very low. I often discuss with a boss of mine who works at GAC shipping agency (OPERATIONS MANAGER in charge of discharging and loading of vessels oil tankers inclusive) he often decry the level of militancy, extortion and piracy as the most serious impediment to their operations. Except it is ABSOLUTELY necessary, business men prefer Lagos port. The Oil industry that utilizes PH port due to proximity usually don't worry about cost, besides, some of these equipments may be too large and cumbersome to transport through road if shipped from Lagos.

Tunami:
ask Google

Kingspin:
We also have Warri and Calabar ports, still on why?

StOla:


The great Igbo.

The lover of all, yet the enemy of all. Right?

Fishes dey discuss water transport, dog sef dey open mouth dey castigate all the fishes say na because of him dem no wan utilise port.

This dog wants all the fishes to evacuate the water for his own use.

A dog in a manger.

jaymichael:
You seem to be very conversant with the issue. They know the problem, they also know the solution but because of tribalism, they just want to put the blame of the problem they created on the door of the Yorubas. Recently we read reports of militants robbing, raping and killing fishermen and local market women moving to and from their villages and markets. There was the report of some angry militants that threw a baby inside the water because her mother hid her money inside the baby's pamper. That is how volatile the waters of that region is. These things don't happen on the waterways in Lagos. Some years back, it was the same ND egbesu militants that bombed Atlas Cove at Tarkwa bay that made the security agencies place curfew on the movement of speedboats from 6pm around that waterway till today.

patmaine:



who will not allow it to happen in Lagos. why did they allow it to happen in warri and port Harcourt.


quit propaganda for the masters. the more u talk the more hypocritical you sound

redsconsult:
Lagos sea port has more depth or draught of like 13m which is the deepest of all seaports presently in the country which can contain larger ships and cargoes compare to pH. If the pH port needs to be fully utilize there most be crios dredging of nothing more than 12 to 15m dept from its present 7m dept or there about. More investment need to channel in that region to ease the congestion at lagos port and to save life and properties on our roads