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Re: Why Is Rivers State Sea Port Underutilised While Lagos Suffers From Congestion? by redsconsult(m): 12:53pm On Oct 09, 2015
rudebouy:


How deep is the proposed Ibaka Sea Port?
jamb question check Google for your answer or go and do bathynetric survey of ibaka to know how deep it is ...
Re: Why Is Rivers State Sea Port Underutilised While Lagos Suffers From Congestion? by jaymichael(m): 1:04pm On Oct 09, 2015
obailala:
Feel free to say so... In fact, I totally agree with you and your ilk, the yorubas in connivance with the FG have ensured for decades that every other port in Nigeria dies except the over crowded port in yorubaland. Very brilliant analysis!

Anyway, permit me to say you are a typical African; every problem (even a headache) is viewed as an orchestration of your enemies to harm and frustrate you. But bro, where has that sort of mentality left your continent?
Funny, when you ask them to outline the systematic policies initiated by the FG (in connivance with their Yoruba enemy) specifically targeted to or inimical to the effective utilization of the PH port, they can't.

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Re: Why Is Rivers State Sea Port Underutilised While Lagos Suffers From Congestion? by Nobody: 1:19pm On Oct 09, 2015
obailala:
Feel free to say so... In fact, I totally agree with you and your ilk, the yorubas in connivance with the FG have ensured for decades that every other port in Nigeria dies except the over crowded port in yorubaland. Very brilliant analysis!

Anyway, permit me to say you are a typical African; every problem (even a headache) is viewed as an orchestration of your enemies to harm and frustrate you. But bro, where has that sort of mentality left your continent?

permit me to say you 're a typical African. who's superior mentality is of no use. because we all 're here

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Re: Why Is Rivers State Sea Port Underutilised While Lagos Suffers From Congestion? by Chiaka(f): 1:34pm On Oct 09, 2015
Its arranged that way by customs believe or not but make your self happy!

jaymichael:
What is the truth? what imbalance are you talking about? Is the PH port working? yes, Does it still receive ships yes, Is there any law or policy prohibiting ships from berthing and utilizing PH port? (You can get more clarification from any NPA office close to you or write to AGM ops western port Apapa) No If you igbos want PH port to thrive, Fill PH port in your FORM M prior to your importation. Yoruba businesses are predominantly domiciled in the sw they are not the ones that will make the port thrive. Your people prefer to route their goods through Lagos and they are the ones that STUPIDLY say PH port is underutilized. As an Importer, you have a right to route your goods through any port you so desire Apapa, Tincan Grimaldi PTML PAN ATLANTIC KLT, PH etc, just fill it in your form M and inform your shipper to look for a liner that ply that route. Am a freight forwarder and I should know. outline the policies initiated by the FM specifically targeted towards ensuring that the PH port is underutilized. PH port is working. ----------------->>NEXT PROPAGANDA.
Re: Why Is Rivers State Sea Port Underutilised While Lagos Suffers From Congestion? by jaymichael(m): 1:49pm On Oct 09, 2015
Chiaka:
Its arranged that way by customs believe or not but make your self happy!

Which Customs? What did the customs do? Do you even know that customs have no power to designate an area within our territory that constitutes a port (sea land and air). No customs officer has the right to reject posting to any port or land border. It is not their responsibility to direct traffic to any port. They have no power to fix tariff and duty rate. They are both security and revenue collecting officers who ensure compliance in accordance with the CEMA customs and excise management act.

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Re: Why Is Rivers State Sea Port Underutilised While Lagos Suffers From Congestion? by Kagawa10: 2:55pm On Oct 09, 2015
Chiaka:
Its arranged that way by customs believe or not but make your self happy!

Dumb bimbo!
Ibo and dullness are siamese twins!

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Re: Why Is Rivers State Sea Port Underutilised While Lagos Suffers From Congestion? by tolexy007(m): 3:11pm On Oct 09, 2015
obailala:
It would not be allowed to happen in Lagos, in fact, it cannot happen in Lagos and I can explain why. You know what happens when you are pushed to the wall?.. You simply turn back, face the problem headlong and fight. Lagos being the last surviving port, it cannot be allowed to go down because of its necessity.

In the 90's, Warri used to be a great business hub for oil and gas companies. There was hardly any major oil company which didnt have operations or offices in Warri. But insecurity upon insecurity made the town unattractive and chased businesses away. Belligerent youths would stroll into a company yard and demand the companies to 'settle' or to pay development levy a.k.a 'deve'. It got so ridiculous that even private businesses and individuals weren't left out. Consequently, companies started leaving one by one and even recently, the almighty shell has also left and rendered the town desolate.

Now most of these companies relocated to PH and Lagos and then the same problem faced in warri arose in PH. But guess what?... companies were tired of moving around, Some which couldn't cope ran to Lagos, others were just forced to live with it. Why am I saying all these stories?... If the same problem which forced importers to run to Lagos comes to Lagos, there would be no where else to run to hence the problem would be tackled headlong.

you are making sense
Re: Why Is Rivers State Sea Port Underutilised While Lagos Suffers From Congestion? by EasternLionn: 7:47pm On Oct 09, 2015
That efulefu Obailala will side with Yorubas, it's so unbelievable.
Re: Why Is Rivers State Sea Port Underutilised While Lagos Suffers From Congestion? by alexlee50: 8:14pm On Oct 09, 2015
jaymichael:
The answer is just one, MILITANCY/PIRACY. Those Niger Delta waterways are not safe. Apart from threats of kidnapping, it is more expensive for the shipping companies and shipping agents to operate that route as they have to settle or pay "escort" money to each community they pass. The cost is then passed on to the consignees. Security (or lack of it) is a serious impediment to the optimal utilization of Portharcourt port.
this your reason na yoruba agenda.

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Re: Why Is Rivers State Sea Port Underutilised While Lagos Suffers From Congestion? by superstar1(m): 9:09pm On Oct 09, 2015
It is so funny that the jokers that claim 95% of importation will rather fill their form Ms putting Apapa or Tin Can or Roro as Port of Destination, rather than Onne or Warri!!!

It is even more laughable that they allude their stupidity to the so called ''Yoruba Agenda'', that made them not to fill Onne or Warri as their ports of destination.

When we tell them that they are clowns, they will keep arguing and biting the dust.

The question we need to ask those asking why Lagos Port is congested is ''Is there a law in this nation that stipulates LAgos Port as the only Port of Destination?

There must be something that is making all and sundry to run away from other ports. What are those things?

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Re: Why Is Rivers State Sea Port Underutilised While Lagos Suffers From Congestion? by PROPHETmichael: 9:47pm On Oct 09, 2015
jabbok:
Why is NNPC HQ in Abuja?


It is because the full meaning of NNPC is NIGERIAN NATIONAL(meaning it's for all Nigerians and since Abuja represent all Nigerians, hence the headquarters is situated there.) Petroleum Corporation and not Niger Delta Petroleum Corporation which could've made it a must for the headquarters to be sighted in Niger Delta; same way NDDC headquarter is in Port Harcourt because it's called NIGER DELTA Development Commission.

So the problem lies with the name and not the location because when Lagos was the capital, NNPC corporate headquarters was in Lagos. If tomorrow, the capital of Nigeria is move to Maiduguri, so shall NNPC be move to Sambisa as long as it bears the name NIGERIAN NATIONAL....

I hope that answers your question.

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Re: Why Is Rivers State Sea Port Underutilised While Lagos Suffers From Congestion? by obailala(m): 9:59pm On Oct 09, 2015
EasternLionn:
That efulefu Obailala will side with Yorubas, it's so unbelievable.

It is called applying common sense you slowpoke... everyone can't be a mumu all the time.
Re: Why Is Rivers State Sea Port Underutilised While Lagos Suffers From Congestion? by jaymichael(m): 10:31pm On Oct 09, 2015
alexlee50:
this your reason na yoruba agenda.
Tell us the one wey no be Yoruba agenda. Did Yorubas tell your brother not to route his goods via PH port?
Re: Why Is Rivers State Sea Port Underutilised While Lagos Suffers From Congestion? by HopeAtHand: 11:00pm On Oct 09, 2015
PROPHETmichael:



It is because the full meaning of NNPC is NIGERIAN NATIONAL(meaning it's for all Nigerians and since Abuja represent all Nigerians, hence the headquarters is situated there.) Petroleum Corporation and not Niger Delta Petroleum Corporation which could've made it a must for the headquarters to be sighted in Niger Delta; same way NDDC headquarter is in Port Harcourt because it's called NIGER DELTA Development Commission.

So the problem lies with the name and not the location because when Lagos was the capital, NNPC corporate headquarters was in Lagos. If tomorrow, the capital of Nigeria is move to Maiduguri, so shall NNPC be move to Sambisa as long as it bears the name NIGERIAN NATIONAL....

I hope that answers your question.

Very logical answer.

Now to the Nigerian Navy, why is it headquartered in Abuja.


I dislike GEJ for some reasons, none the least being the abandonment of facilities that would generate income and employ the youths of ND.

The PH port is one of them.
Re: Why Is Rivers State Sea Port Underutilised While Lagos Suffers From Congestion? by ba7man(m): 12:09am On Oct 10, 2015
tpiander:


Hm.

Any studies about ibaka port that can be examined?
Dont have any..... but I'm sure you can find on Nairaland here.
Re: Why Is Rivers State Sea Port Underutilised While Lagos Suffers From Congestion? by jaymichael(m): 7:14am On Oct 10, 2015
superstar1:
It is so funny that the jokers that claim 95% of importation will rather fill their form Ms putting Apapa or Tin Can or Roro as Port of Destination, rather than Onne or Warri!!!

It is even more laughable that they allude their stupidity to the so called ''Yoruba Agenda'', that made them not to fill Onne or Warri as their ports of destination.

When we tell them that they are clowns, they will keep arguing and biting the dust.

The question we need to ask those asking why Lagos Port is congested is ''Is there a law in this nation that stipulates LAgos Port as the only Port of Destination?

There must be something that is making all and sundry to run away from other ports. What are those things?
It had been outlined to them, but they rather stupidly choose the lie that gives them orgasm.
Re: Why Is Rivers State Sea Port Underutilised While Lagos Suffers From Congestion? by superstar1(m): 9:29am On Oct 10, 2015
HopeAtHand:


Very logical answer.

Now to the Nigerian Navy, why is it headquartered in Abuja.


I dislike GEJ for some reasons, none the least being the abandonment of facilities that would generate income and employ the youths of ND.

The PH port is one of them.

It is called Nigerian Navy and not Niger Delta or Ndigbo or Odua or Arewa Navy.

The same answer he gave initially suffice for this.

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Re: Why Is Rivers State Sea Port Underutilised While Lagos Suffers From Congestion? by HopeAtHand: 9:37am On Oct 10, 2015
superstar1:


It is called Nigerian Navy and not Niger Delta or Ndigbo or Odua or Arewa Navy.

The same answer he gave initially suffice for this.

If the Nigerian govt wants to deal with militancy or piracy, they should move the Navy headquarters to ND and effectively put an end to the menace.

Abuja is too far away from the action.
Re: Why Is Rivers State Sea Port Underutilised While Lagos Suffers From Congestion? by ttnl2015: 10:04am On Oct 10, 2015
WITH LEADERS THAT HAVE NO VISION,THIS IS WHY WE ARE ALL STILL GOING TO APAPA FOR OVER 50YRS.
CAN YOU IMAGINE THAT sad sad sad
Re: Why Is Rivers State Sea Port Underutilised While Lagos Suffers From Congestion? by superstar1(m): 10:32am On Oct 10, 2015
HopeAtHand:


If the Nigerian govt wants to deal with militancy or piracy, they should move the Navy headquarters to ND and effectively put an end to the menace.

Abuja is too far away from the action.

You could have advised Jonathan, a Niger Deltan, to do that. He had 6years to implement your laughable suggestion.

Were you also drunk then?

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Re: Why Is Rivers State Sea Port Underutilised While Lagos Suffers From Congestion? by HopeAtHand: 10:42am On Oct 10, 2015
superstar1:


You could have advised Jonathan, a Niger Deltan, to do that. He had 6years to implement your laughable suggestion.

Were you also drunk then?


I dont use the word drunk, id prefer High.

Buhari considered the Northern interest primarily before he moved the military high command to Maiduguri.

The naive GEJ believed he had the ultimate luxury, but if he knew otherwise, i believe he'd have made judicious use of time and chance.Not only ports, some very essential strategic facilities and infrastructures should have been put in place in the ND..Where hes failed, others behind him have surely learned the lesson..

Believe me, we will not repeat his mistakes when either by providence or otherwise we find ourselves with presidential power.
Re: Why Is Rivers State Sea Port Underutilised While Lagos Suffers From Congestion? by jpphilips(m): 11:29am On Oct 11, 2015
ArodewilliamsT:


But the Otedolas, Mai deribes, Dangotes, Alakijas and other Fulani/hausa oil billionaires still have their ships using the same 'dangerous" routes to lift crude?

But Ships travelling to cameroon, Congo, Central african republic and other central african countries still go through the same 'dangerous' route to their respective ports. Kai yoruba, are you people so cursed with hypocrisy that you now assume everybody is just as daft as you are? This is the propaganda you sleazy gorrillas have been selling to everyone for eons. Anyway, your propaganda era is gone forever. The East is waking up and very fast too.

There is only one evil militating against the ratiocination of the present youth in this country, most of you are not designed to grow beyond myopic reasoning, funny enough, you guys still lack an open mind to unlearn to re learn, you branded Otedola as Hausa Fulani, it only shows you know nothing about the cardinals of this country, except of course to sink in the usual pettiness of bigoted statements.
Personally i will not indulge you, if you raise enough money to venture into importation, by all means route your consignment to NPA portharcourt.
Brain, you no get, listen you can not, learn you can not, by all means remain a goat who cares!!

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Re: Why Is Rivers State Sea Port Underutilised While Lagos Suffers From Congestion? by ArodewilliamsT: 4:31pm On Oct 11, 2015
jpphilips:
[s]

There is only one evil militating against the ratiocination of the present youth in this country, most of you are not designed to grow beyond myopic reasoning, funny enough, you guys still lack an open mind to unlearn to re learn, you branded Otedola as Hausa Fulani, it only shows you know nothing about the cardinals of this country, except of course to sink in the usual pettiness of bigoted statements.
Personally i will not indulge you, if you raise enough money to venture into importation, by all means route your consignment to NPA portharcourt.
Brain, you no get, listen you can not, learn you can not, by all means remain a goat who cares[/s]!!

you can go to hell in 79 different ways if my truisms hurt you so much. Closet Bigot.

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Re: Why Is Rivers State Sea Port Underutilised While Lagos Suffers From Congestion? by Nobody: 5:40pm On Oct 11, 2015
jaymichael:
Learn to Learn, ignorance makes one appear dumb. Am into the logistics business. I am a freight forwarder. Who tell you the oil companies and the shipping agents to those oil vessels don't settle "community" It is mostly oil companies that ship essential equipments through PH port. Though some business men business men do ship goods through PH port, but the rate is very very low. I often discuss with a boss of mine who works at GAC shipping agency (OPERATIONS MANAGER in charge of discharging and loading of vessels oil tankers inclusive) he often decry the level of militancy, extortion and piracy as the most serious impediment to their operations. Except it is ABSOLUTELY necessary, business men prefer Lagos port. The Oil industry that utilizes PH port due to proximity usually don't worry about cost, besides, some of these equipments may be too large and cumbersome to transport through road if shipped from Lagos.

What is the FGN doing about it and what exactly are the Functions of the Nigerian Navy?
Re: Why Is Rivers State Sea Port Underutilised While Lagos Suffers From Congestion? by omonnakoda: 5:57pm On Oct 11, 2015
The underlying premise of the thread :

"PH port is underutilized
"

Is this true

What is the capacity ?


If it was fully utilized would it decongest Lagos?



Truth is that Port Harcourt does not lie along the Sea. Rather it is an inland city on the Bonny River .
The harbour is small with Limited capacity

People have talked about oil companies.

The oil companies tend to use Onne which again is situated on a River and not the sea. The Nigerian coastal is such that there are few harbours that are not inland outside Lagos. This quite simply translates into unacceptable costs for small shippers who are those that ship to Lagos i.e a shipper shipping a single vehicle. In fact many cannot even afford to ship to Lagos and prefer Cotonou or Lome though this is partly due to duty it is also cheaper to ship to Lome than Lagos.

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Re: Why Is Rivers State Sea Port Underutilised While Lagos Suffers From Congestion? by Nobody: 6:07pm On Oct 11, 2015
Dannyset:
[s]
Well, I guess somebody with experience in the job has explained things to you, but I think you know better. Let's leave it.[/s]

His questions are valid and the reasons giving so far have not addressed the questions rather it paved the way for further questions.

The FGN has failed in its responsibilities, it is either a deliberate act to limit the economic growth of that region or a systemic failure on the part of the FGN to do the needful.

Despite the high level of pirate activities going on at the sea, ships are still sailing so why will such a flimsy excuse be giving as the reason why the port is grossly under utilized?

What is the rational in going to clear goods in a seaport in Lagos when the final destination of that goods is located in a state that is closer to the PH seaport? It is economically senseless because the cost of transporting such goods from the Lagos seaport is much higher when compared to the cost of moving same goods from PH seaport.

Look at the rate of dilapidation on the high ways in Nigeria which is also as a result of the impact/pressure from the steady movement of goods as well frequent road hazards from the trucks conveying these products.

The economic disadvantages of under utilizing the PH seaport outweighs the reasons giving so far.

IT MAKES NO SENSE.
Re: Why Is Rivers State Sea Port Underutilised While Lagos Suffers From Congestion? by omonnakoda: 7:13pm On Oct 11, 2015
The most feasible spot for a port is probably Akwa Ibom and even that would require considerable investment
Port Harcourt Port was designed mainly for export and not for import. It is just too far inland

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Re: Why Is Rivers State Sea Port Underutilised While Lagos Suffers From Congestion? by jpphilips(m): 11:05pm On Oct 12, 2015
ArodewilliamsT:


you can go to hell in 79 different ways if my truisms hurt you so much. Closet Bigot.


Hurt ke? sorry bro, I am not, you are the dumb fellow who doesn't understand why NPA ph is useless while Onne FLT and FOT remains viable.
You should be hurt if that simple reason elude you not me, because I know, and every sane person who has earned a living through the Nigerian coastal waterways. Sorry enjoy your dumbo!! if you sincerely think it has an ethnic connotation because a lunatic like Nnamdi Kanu told you so, by all means, stick with your opinion, I have been here long enough to know that majority of you urchins know nothing and very proud of your ignorance.
Business, you have never done, importation, zero, read for where? just go to the internet and type rubbish!!

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Re: Why Is Rivers State Sea Port Underutilised While Lagos Suffers From Congestion? by jpphilips(m): 11:22pm On Oct 12, 2015
byrron:


His questions are valid and the reasons giving so far have not addressed the questions rather it paved the way for further questions.

The FGN has failed in its responsibilities, it is either a deliberate act to limit the economic growth of that region or a systemic failure on the part of the FGN to do the needful.

Despite the high level of pirate activities going on at the sea, ships are still sailing so why will such a flimsy excuse be giving as the reason why the port is grossly under utilized?

What is the rational in going to clear goods in a seaport in Lagos when the final destination of that goods is located in a state that is closer to the PH seaport? It is economically senseless because the cost of transporting such goods from the Lagos seaport is much higher when compared to the cost of moving same goods from PH seaport.

Look at the rate of dilapidation on the high ways in Nigeria which is also as a result of the impact/pressure from the steady movement of goods as well frequent road hazards from the trucks conveying these products.

The economic disadvantages of under utilizing the PH seaport outweighs the reasons giving so far.

IT MAKES NO SENSE.


This nonsense you wrote can only make sense to an ignorant person like you, the time I spend here has opened my eyes to the reality that very few Nigerians understand how this country works.
The very few who denied themselves knowledge are still not ashamed to throw around buffoonery with pride, of what use is your Geography if it did not outline the limitations of PH port?

A m0r0n like Nnamdi Kanu is yet to tell his minions that Biafra is land locked, perhaps they are still hoping to dredge the River Niger beyond shallow waters, shouldn't it be more worrisome that a lunatic like that man is taken seriously because the country is packed with empty hollow heads roaming the four cardinal points of destitution in this country.

Why do you think that oil companies allow only offshore going vessels to berth at onne, while all the oil they extract from the Niger delta are routed to be sold through Bonny?
Has any of these ethnic lunatics ever seen a serious oil Tanker in any jetty in and around Abuloma or reclamation? why are they everywhere in Eket and Bonny but not PH?

If oil companies avoid it and importers avoid it as well, the least shred of common sense should tell you that something beyond ethnicity or Government inefficiency is amiss, some of you don't deserve a brain.
BTW those who understand the limitations and have real need do clear from there, the school drop outs can continue whining all over the internet.

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Re: Why Is Rivers State Sea Port Underutilised While Lagos Suffers From Congestion? by Nobody: 11:48pm On Oct 12, 2015
jpphilips:



[s]This nonsense you wrote can only make sense to an ignorant person like you, the time I spend here has opened my eyes to the reality that very few Nigerians understand how this country works.
The very few who denied themselves knowledge are still not ashamed to throw around buffoonery with pride, of what use is your Geography if it did not outline the limitations of PH port?

A m0r0n like Nnamdi Kanu is yet to tell his minions that Biafra is land locked, perhaps they are still hoping to dredge the River Niger beyond shallow waters, shouldn't it be more worrisome that a lunatic like that man is taken seriously because the country is packed with empty hollow heads roaming the four cardinal points of destitution in this country.

Why do you think that oil companies allow only offshore going vessels to berth at onne, while all the oil they extract from the Niger delta are routed to be sold through Bonny?
Has any of these ethnic lunatics ever seen a serious oil Tanker in any jetty in and around Abuloma or reclamation? why are they everywhere in Eket and Bonny but not PH?

If oil companies avoid it and importers avoid it as well, the least shred of common sense should tell you that something beyond ethnicity or Government inefficiency is amiss, some of you don't deserve a brain.
BTW those who understand the limitations and have real need do clear from there, the school drop outs can continue whining all over the internet.[/s] GIBBERISH
[b]
You ended up barking like a rabid dog which you are without addressing the questions i asked which were devoid of any form of insult but your self appropriated deluded minister of seaport affairs ended up ranting brainlessly to the point i started wondering if this is a new form of unclassified type of stupidity.

If the crap you wrote up there is your response to my unambiguous questions then i make bold to say that you are daft and nothing but a tout.

If you are incapable of addressing issues with verifiable facts and decorum in a public forum then you are a high ranking tout.

what has Kanu or Biafra gotten to do with you addressing why a seaport is under utilize?

You were taught in geography that the PH seaport should be under utilized right? CLOWN!

can you see the level of your stupidity?

I am not gonna dignify an e-clown like you with any further response because u are so disgusting and highly repugnant.
If the crap you wrote up there is what you have been parading about as been knowledgeable with the workings of Nigeria then you are the C-in-C of all fools in the entire universe.

Go back and address the issues i raised in a more saner manner that is if you have any left over form of rationality in you or better still, you can shop for some.

Self deluded fool showcasing his foolery and even flaunting it as knowledge. [/b]

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Re: Why Is Rivers State Sea Port Underutilised While Lagos Suffers From Congestion? by postmann: 12:06am On Oct 13, 2015
jaymichael:
The answer is just one, MILITANCY/PIRACY. Those Niger Delta waterways are not safe. Apart from threats of kidnapping, it is more expensive for the shipping companies and shipping agents to operate that route as they have to settle or pay "escort" money to each community they pass. The cost is then passed on to the consignees. Security (or lack of it) is a serious impediment to the optimal utilization of Portharcourt port.

I believe you were not born yesterday. How you came up with such BELIEVABLE LIE puts you up as a front runner for the post of spokeman for a government whose motto is falsehood and deceit.

Nigerdelta militancy and youth restiveness is relatively recent.
Its an open secret that politics is what kept a big country like Nigeria with just one functional port in lagos

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Re: Why Is Rivers State Sea Port Underutilised While Lagos Suffers From Congestion? by postmann: 12:13am On Oct 13, 2015
Yeske2:
This evil has been there for some time but the clueless GEJ and equally clueless OBJ both from the south did nothing about it, so OP if you ask me, na who i go ask?

Yes blame Jonathan. But did you expect Obasanjo to have changed the status quo? It favours his region.

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