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Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by famousguy01(m): 8:33pm On Feb 16, 2020 |
Bolt has been deducting 20% commission from my earning instead of the usual 5% after 40 trips, I just notice am now was still on 5% as at ystd I’m I the only one in this shoe? |
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Tyche(m): 8:36pm On Feb 16, 2020 |
But it's a catch 22, for soon, you will be required by law to change your plate number type for commercial purpose once you acquire a hackney permit. One can understand that of LASDRI, though a gross duplication of duty just for revenue. As someone once asked, how do you identify an Uber driver? Anyway, my Regards to all VIO reps on here iyaegin: 7 Likes |
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Tyche(m): 8:37pm On Feb 16, 2020 |
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Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by deedee44: 8:44pm On Feb 16, 2020 |
donfortune48:What a great escape. Also thank your luck there was no lastma power bike around. That one for pursue you enter your papa house 3 Likes |
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by kodred(m): 8:44pm On Feb 16, 2020 |
nitigriti: Operators permit of 110k for what? What have they provided for ehailing drivers to warrant that 110k per car? Driver-partners are not the operators rather they are tools for operation of uber/bolt’s technology. If any operators permit is to be paid, it should be done by the ehailing companies. If they want hackney permit, they should provide designated parks so people on the platform know they are fully commercial otherwise it’s just pure extortion. The hackney permit destroys the purpose of ehailing. The only sensible one is the lasdri. Once your plate number is red, you’ve opened yourself up to all manner of extortion from local govt touts asking for stickers etc thinking it’s a company vehicle. The things you listed that the govt provides is basic for it’s citizens aint nothing special besides every citizen pays tax directly or indirectly. The state has seen a boost in economic activities since ehailing came. The ease of movement is second to none. Also the upsurge in road worthiness certificate and driver’s license plus vehicle registration is a strong indicator of that fact. Lagos state should not be greedy. PS: Don’t ever call 110k chicken change. 12 Likes 1 Share |
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by nitigriti(m): 8:45pm On Feb 16, 2020 |
northbird: The truth is, government has the right to enforce her laws anyway it seems fit; so long as extant laws of the land provide it adequate cover. Maybe we should all read Lagos State's Traffic Law. We will be amazed at the powers of the Police, LASTMA and the VIO. There are some offences - for example, driving around with expired papers - that the Lagos State government will just come and drop your fine ticket at your doorstep, like it happens in New York. And then there are others - for example, driving one-way - that Lagos State government just wants to seize and crush your vehicle instantly. Lagos government will enforce her laws anyhow it seems fit. |
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by kodred(m): 8:47pm On Feb 16, 2020 |
[quote author=Tyche post=86707490][/quote] Did you see the context in which it was used? |
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Tyche(m): 8:50pm On Feb 16, 2020 |
kodred: Your position and mine fits the context |
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by izzou(m): 9:05pm On Feb 16, 2020 |
nitigriti: Niti baba, I'm not saying ehailing not be taxed. No, I haven't said that I have a friend that used a 2007 Audi A7 for uber(Yeah, you heard me right). He only drove twice, and he used it to carry riders from Ajah, because, according to him, he wanted to know the feeling and blah blah blah This is the purpose of ride sharing. Are you saying this person should get a license of #110k because of this? Are you also saying he automatically becomes a commercial driver? People who use their private cars to pick #50 passengers on the road just to make few bucks, are you saying they automatically should pay #110k for the license and get the Hackney? I'm not saying the government should not tax them oh. But the means is unreasonable. Other countries that kicked out Uber, didn't do it because of tax. They did it because local taxi businesses was dying. Or will you tell me confidently that those yellow Gold half taxi drivers paid #110k for their licenses? Reason with me, baba 7 Likes |
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by izzou(m): 9:08pm On Feb 16, 2020 |
peeps4u: Hackney is part of the car documents, so the owner of the car should do it, whether HP or rental, since it will carry the car details and owner details Lasdri is a requirement for driving, so the driver should do that since it will be in his name 1 Like |
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by nitigriti(m): 9:15pm On Feb 16, 2020 |
kodred: These are sentimental arguments. 1. What have they provided for ehailing drivers to warrant that 110k per car? Why not go and drive in Oyo State? Or Port Harcourt? Or Abuja? There is a reason we all prefer to hustle in Lagos rather than in all these other cities in Nigeria - the economic environment thrives! There, there is your answer. Lagos State government has provided e-hailing driver's with a thriving economic environment that makes it possible for a car on e-hailing to earn (net) #2.5 million every year after expenses! Lagos State government wants #110,000 of that money just once in your lifetime! 2. Driver-partners are not the operators rather they are tools for operation of uber/bolt’s technology. If any operators permit is to be paid, it should be done by the ehailing companies. Again, you miss the logic here. Driver-partners are residents of the state and will be taxed as such. The e-hailing companies' operators permits are one thing, e-hailing cars operational permits are another. For example, the company I work for pays Corporate Income Tax, while I pay PAYE tax. 3. Hackney permit is a license that is required by commercial operators of Vehicles, including other non-commercial vehicles that are into haulage of people or goods like buses, taxis. If you take people from one place to the other in the state for a fee, you will need a Hackney permit. That is the law. Or are we lawless? 4. I'm happy we both agree LASDRI is sensible. 5. Do red plate numbers equal extortion? Do you think those touts collecting Union fees at bus stops are extorting? Have they ever come to your private car to ask #10 from you? 6. The things you listed that the govt provides is basic for it’s citizens aint nothing special. Security of lives and properties is basic and nothing special? Good roads (to a certain extent) is basic and nothing special? Economic opportunity is basic and nothing special? 7. The state has seen a boost in economic activities since ehailing came. The ease of movement is second to none. Also the upsurge in road worthiness certificate and driver’s license plus vehicle registration is a strong indicator of that fact. Lagos state should not be greedy. You have your facts wrong. By the time Babatunde Fashola was rounding off his tenure, Lagos State was already the 5th largest economy on the African continent - if it were to be regarded as a country on its own. (Cite: John M. O. Ekundayo (2013). Out of Africa: Fashola: Reinventing Servant Leadership to Engender Nigeria's Transformation. AuthorHouse. p. 135. ISBN 9781481790406). This was in 2013 and Lagos State had a GDP of $91 billion then. E-hailing companies came in because Lagos State was (and still is) a thriving city! 8. How can we call LASG greedy in this case? As e-hailing operators, do we quote the lowest price point or the highest price point possible when we negotiate with our clients for off-line trips? Are we being greedy then? 9. A one-time license payment of #110,000 is chicken change to an annual rental income of #2,500,000. 2 Likes |
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by nitigriti(m): 9:25pm On Feb 16, 2020 |
izzou: I understand your point sir, but these cases you refer to are the exceptions rather than the rule. I agree with you that government should be able to identify and excuse these exceptions from the licensing fees. But then, using a private car to convey passengers from one place to another is also a serious traffic offence in Lagos and warrants impounding without remedy of the car. In LASG's eyes, cars are either fully commercial or fully private. And we shouldn't forget the possibility that LASG might be trying to protect the taxi unions. To be honest, when I used to drive, my conscience disturbs me whenever I see these aged men at their parks, helpless against the onslaught of e-hailing vehicles. Na your side I dey. |
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by 1daboi: 9:27pm On Feb 16, 2020 |
mazinaija:all you shouting kakawa. Beware! If cbd is coming, japa! If not they'll block you 2 Likes |
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by kodred(m): 9:28pm On Feb 16, 2020 |
Tyche: In between comes after the thing been referred to. It does not come before. |
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Nobody: 9:43pm On Feb 16, 2020 |
nitigriti: Nitigriti, you're on your way to the cabals that run (down) things in Lagos.... 7 Likes |
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Babadee1900(m): 9:51pm On Feb 16, 2020 |
waks1:I have LCC App, I use the pay via bank option. No charges. 1 Like |
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by izzou(m): 9:52pm On Feb 16, 2020 |
nitigriti: E-hailings really did enough damage to taxi unions, but the world is changing. And if I go by your logic of "fully private or commercial", then sooner or later, Uber cars will be required to change from blue to red. The license to drive a danfo is not #100k, after getting a red plate, painting your bus yellow, and getting a Hackney. What those drivers pay to Oluomo are daily dues which is only when they work. That is reasonable Why not tell uber drivers to get licensed like those babas? I can bet you that the fee will be much lesser 100k is very unfair. Should Uber cars be taxed? Yes. But that amount shows the motive is different 3 Likes |
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by kodred(m): 10:11pm On Feb 16, 2020 |
nitigriti: I said a boost in economic activities i.e it increased commercial activities. Ask the boys that are into spare-parts at ladipo and they’ll tell you uber/bolt is the best thing since slice bread. How dare you call security, good roads et al special? In a sane economy, it’s not negotiable. Driver-partners are residents and they pay tax through the TIN supplied to uber and through purchase of goods and services i.e VAT One would think you’re vying for office and trying to use this as a manifesto the way you going about it. Thank God say no be you be one of those ogas sha. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by nitigriti(m): 10:17pm On Feb 16, 2020 |
izzou: Now you've gotten my point. 100k is unfair, so e-hailing companies and e-hailing driver's should come together and negotiate it to the barest minimum with the LASG. That is how business is done; not the living-in-denial we've been doing on this thread. 1 Like |
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by nitigriti(m): 10:25pm On Feb 16, 2020 |
kodred: Again, you shoot yourself in the foot! Quoting you, "in a sane economy." Who provides the sane economy? Lagos State government, my dear. Or do you think the Lagos State Security Trust Fund generating billions of naira every year is for fun? Do you think LASG arming the Nigeria Police Force and operatives of Operation MESA is a fluke? Further study: https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/02/government-responsibility-to-citizens-anne-marie-slaughter/ And do you think driver-partners pay tax to the LASG with the fake TINs we input into the apps? Very funny. 2 Likes |
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Felicity0001: 10:27pm On Feb 16, 2020 |
donfortune48:Are you sure it's not the girl I rejected on? She goimg to Ajah but she refused to obey my rule which is "dont eat on my car" she said she's hungry I and pregnant I just calm.down. just about driving out of the oando filling station the guy with her requested I wait let him buy food inside the eatery saying he too is hungry. I just ended trip, going to Ajah at towards that evening self was a journey I didnt wang to embark on cos of the traffic an road construction going on. When they highlighted I look bae belle her belle flat pass carbin biscuit self. I just hissed! 1 Like |
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by kodred(m): 10:42pm On Feb 16, 2020 |
nitigriti: So you’re are saying that the state is not sane right? I thought as much! I mean how can a sane govt ask for 110k per car? Is that not madness? Oh right right it’s the 110k they want to use to make it sane. My bad. Whether or not you input a fake TIN, its purpose is for tax payment. 3 Likes |
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by nitigriti(m): 11:20pm On Feb 16, 2020 |
kodred: Lots of sentiments here; nothing logical. No one does business with sentiments. 2 Likes |
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by northbird: 5:12am On Feb 17, 2020 |
nitigriti: There is nothing AMAZING about Lagos traffic laws. Just an avenue for its operatives to extort the gullible masses. Making fines on one way roads violators without adequate signage indicating such. We all know d popular Bilikisu ayrede ( UNILAG) road being one way. For months, there was no sign indicating such. Of recent, I noticed a small sign indicating No entry. Just like a Maggi cube on a plate of rice. I was lyk. Look at the sign banning Keke n okada n look at a NO entry. sign. And there are scores of one way roads like that without Signs, I guess no Traffic laws for that too. 6 Likes |
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by nitigriti(m): 7:13am On Feb 17, 2020 |
northbird: Just for clarity, I didn't say Lagos traffic laws are amazing. I said you would be amazed at the powers the Lagos Traffic laws gives the Police, LASTMA and VIO. Those are two different things. For example, an armed robber pointing an AK-47 at me is definitely not amazing to me. Rather the AK-47 gives him amazing powers over me. |
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Felicity0001: 8:33am On Feb 17, 2020 |
Godfather10:Oga 30-35k rental is on the high side irrespective to the fact you do all repairs. Sir, I'm on rental and my partnal does all repairs including services, it would have been a blown to me had I gotten a partnal that wants me to do services and repairs less than 10/5k which is the popular norms in the business and a cheat in reality. In the US rental has laws biding both parties, major accident, negligence caused by rentee is covered by the rentee insurance company but minor repairs when reported to renter company, scratches and dents are most times covered by the renter company. Though, their situation is different from ours over here in Nigeria, but demanding 30-35k weekly on rental because you cover every expenses is too much Sir. Its not business as usual, most time I get just 10k or 15k after paying my partner 25k for the week and this 10-15k I talk about self I don't see it physically because it has gone in for family runs and fueling for the next day being Monday. Don't even think I'm not a hard working man. My daily routine is 10/11am to 1-3am the next day Mondays -Wednesdays. Thursdays I work 11am to 4-6pm so I can rest for weekends. Friday's 11am- Sundays 1-3am. Sundays: 3-4pm-9-10pm. Mind you some days I could be so tired, I dont go out at all, some days I spend time at the mechanic workshop maybe 2-4hours. In the end of the week I observed fuelling is the major consumer of the entire money because I fill my tank about 5-6times weekly at the cost of 6k. So, if I happened to be your driver partner tell me what I'll have left after paying you 30/35k for a car not on HP Can you see how unreasonable inconsiderate and wicked that is now? 6 Likes |
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by kodred(m): 9:04am On Feb 17, 2020 |
nitigriti: Whatever rocks your boat buddy 2 Likes |
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Felicity0001: 9:47am On Feb 17, 2020 |
iyaegin:In that note partner owners should make every necessary document available for smooth operation of the car to the driver for remittances. But so long the uber and bolt has not ask for these documents how then do you expect partner owners to get these documents unless until the driver complains to his/her partner about disturbance by VIO then necessary understanding is needed. Lets stop killing ourselves and bugging the thread over simple issues we all know the possible solution. 1 Like |
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by yommie007: 10:55am On Feb 17, 2020 |
Those CBD touts don ever stop me b4. Last Saturday while the Lagos marathon was taking place, I picked a rider from surulere to idumota. Immediately I got close to idumota, I stopped requests from coming in and dropped the rider successfully. Decided to head to my usual filling station (Mobil beside federal palace hotel). On getting to UBA house on broad street there was a slow moving traffic. Suddenly some dirty looking CBD guy waved at me and I stopped and rolled my window down a bit to hear him. CBD: good morning Me: yes CBD: you no see say the light dey red? ME: which light? CBD: come see am ME: hissed, oga me resemble small pikin? The light was green b4 I entered and as you can see the road isn't clear. The next thing was the squeezed his hand to unlock the door, immediately I noticed that I zoomed of with his hand. The screeching noise of my tires got everyone's attention including the CBD boss. When the boss saw my face, all he did was a CALM DOWN GESTURE. I looked at him and said he's lucky he wasn't in front of the car and I left. CBD sef don join the madness...... we want AMBODE back oo 1daboi: 3 Likes |
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Nobody: 10:58am On Feb 17, 2020 |
Felicity0001: Baba, do you fill your tank with just 6k for the entire work week or 6k daily? 1 Like |
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by jaey(m): 11:35am On Feb 17, 2020 |
Monkeyprick: Co ask o? If na weekly, I go hunt your car make we exchange 1 Like |
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Felicity0001: 12:24pm On Feb 17, 2020 |
I dont want to have issue with uber in anyways because its the only reason im meeting up to my weekly target with less stress n peace. But most riders are making it difficult for me. Last week uber mailed me informing of how my account is been flaged for high cancellation. I mailed them back giving some justifiable reasons which was acknowledged by uber. Yet ive had about 6 cancellations afterwards due to one reason or the other, marina axis, wrong pickup address, I'd to even extend my waiting time to 10-12min b4 i cancel. Right now as I type this mail I'm on a 5km pickup distance I've called and message rider on the app bfor I mive but rider is not picking up neither is he respinding to my messages. So im conduse now dont want to start my week with cancellation now. What do you guys suggest please |
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