The people who are now following God's commands, obedient and submit (Islam) to Him (as Muslims) are now Palestinians. If they also seize to be Muslims, or are wicked in
conduct and forbidden what
God made permissible etc, they could face the same
predicament(banishment).
These are the conditions in
order to have the Deed claim to
the Holy Land not by racial or
superiority as you people claim.

Simply put. The two conditions are: to faith in God(which including believing in all His prophets and messangers, from Adam, to Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad) and be righteous in conduct. The Bible says the same thing.
Quran and Bible clearly say that Holy Land was given to Jews (being believers and obedient to God at that time) NOT simply becus of being Jews. No, sir.
You dont understand. Thats
why I posted the video to
enlighten you. Please read the
conditions further here. http://
usa.mediamonitors.net/layout/
set/print/content/view/full/3632
Author Naomi Wolf also wrote
on this after she was
persuaded toread thte Bible for
herself. She writes:
"Actually if you read Genesis,
Exodus and Deuteronomy in
Hebrew — as I do — you see
that God did not “give” Israel
to the Jews/Israelites. We as
Jews are raised with the
creed that “God gave us the
land of Israel” in Genesis —
and that ethnically ‘we are the
chosen people.”
But actually — and I could not
believe my eyes when I saw
this, I checked my reading
with major scholars and they
confirmed it — actually God’s
“covenant” in Genesis,
exodus and Deuteronomy
with the Jewish people is
NOT ABOUT AN ETHNICITY
AND NOT ABOUT A
CONTRACT. IT IS ABOUT A
WAY OF BEHAVING."
http://beforeitsnews.com/
israel/2014/07/god-gave-israel-
to-the-jews-author-naomi-
wolfs-mind-blowing-bible-
experience-2446712.html
But the criminals who re-wrote
(and changed) the Bible said
that (Deuteronomy 9:5) "It is
not because of your
righteousness or your
integrity that you are going in
to take possession of their
land;..." . This is false
obviously.

dolphinheart:
@ empir.ee

Empiree:
"sum bukum umuyun fahum layarjium" ~ Mathew 13:13

dolphinheart:
@ empiree


There attempt at sending missiles into isreal to kill innocent children and people is part of their being obedient to allah right?

Bro ,all claim , apart from the isrealites first claim of old, is being done by superiority in physical power.



Let's look at history again, when god gave the isrealites control over the promised lands, they had control over it until they lost a larger part of it to the assyrians and later all of it to the babylonians, did god put another people who are not abrahams descendants their ? Noo.
Even though god has abandoned isreal as his representative on earth and predicted its impending second destruction like it accurately predicted the first one . We find out that those who claim to be Jews or descendants of abraham today still live in those lands.

Yes the issue is not about ethnicity , for the Jews of today had lost that right to claim one ethnic group since they have intermarried with several other tribes around them from the time they got into that land.
So today , there must still be abrahams descendants in those lands . They are the ones god promised and took to the land.
that promised can only be maintained by their loyalty to jehovah.
If its not the Jews that can lay claim to that land, definitely its not the palestinians as they are not descendants of abraham.
On the conditional aspect , if you feel its true that the palestinians are fulfilling gods will and thus have a right to Jerusalem, BROS , I beg you, biko , preach to the palestinians to wait till they have superior fire power like it was done in the days of old by god. Or else their innocent children will continue to die !

5 It is not because of your righteousness or your integrity that you are going in to take possession of their land; but on account of the wickedness of these nations, the LORD your God will drive them
out before you, to accomplish
what he swore to your fathers, to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

Empiree:
"sum bukum umuyun fahum layarjium" ~ Mathew 13:13

plappville:


[s]You have been deeply brainwashed by the arabian idol god to believe that All the prophets were islam. And that Judaism never existed. This aone made ur god contradict itself. I say (it) beause allah is an idol god. Howcan the Koran prove that Islam has been in existant during the time of Abraham, Moses Jeremiah etc? Tell me, when was islam fabricated? Is mohamed the founder older than these prophets in the bible? You are begging to run m.......all u do is lie to claim or defend whet was not originally yours[/s]

plappville:


Muslim control of this area today simply fulfills the prophecy of
Luke 21:24 that “Jerusalem will be trampled on by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.”

There is nothing that happens today that has no trace of biblical prophecy. The bible call islam false and muslims are Gentiles because they preach another Jesus.
Keep fulfilling biblical prophecy It prove our God truel and allah false..

Empiree:
IRRELEVANT!!!

Empiree:
.

And where is bombs going off in Mecca and Medina?. You can hardly see that. The reason is in the Quran because it is a place of PEACE & SECURITY.

Qur'an speaks. (2:125)

"Remember We made the House a place of assembly for men and a place of safety; and take ye the station of Abraham as a place of prayer; and We covenanted with Abraham and Isma'il, that they should sanctify My House for those who compass it round, or use it as a retreat, or bow, or prostrate themselves (therein in prayer)." Yusuf Ali

plappville:

See how peace reign in Mecca. You have been trained to lie to defend a bitter truth about islam. But u cant deceived everybody. Hallah has different way of drinking blood. In Jerusalem he drink by bomb and missile. And in his holiest Mecca see below. ....


[size=14pt]On 11 September, 111 pilgrims were killed and 394 injured when a huge crane collapsed in Mecca. According to estimates, about 4,000 people have died in tragedies during Haj pilgrimage over last four decades. Take a look at major Haj tragedies over the years.

Timeline of Haj tragedies from 1975 to 2015

December 1975: About 200 pilgrims die in a gas cylinder explosion in Mina camping site.

31 July 1987: Over 400 people die in a clash between Saudi security forces and Iranian protesters.

9 July 1989: One pilgrim dies and 16 injured in a bomb blast. Saudia Arabia beheads 16 Kuwaiti Shia Muslims charged with the criminal act.

2 July 1990: The most severe Haj tragedy occurs on 2 July 1990, when 1,426 pilgrims die in a stampede inside the 500-yard-long Al-Ma'aisim tunnel. The overcrowded pedestrian tunnel links the holy city of Mecca and the camping city of Mina.

23 May 1994: About 270 people die in a stampede at the "Stoning of the Devil" ritual.

15 April 1997: At least 343 die in a fire caused by cooking gas explosion at the Mina tent colony. Of this about 100 were Indian nationals. About 1,500 pilgrims were also injured.

9 April 1998: On the third and last day of the Haj pilgrimage, a stampede at Jamarat Bridge kills at least 118 pilgrims. As many as 50 of them were Indians and the rest were from Malaysia and Indonesia. At least 180 were injured.

5 March 2001: At least 35 pilgrims including 23 women and 12 men are trampled to death in a stampede during the Stoning of Satan ritual. Of this, two were Indians.

11 February 2003: At least 14 people including six women die in a stampede during the Stoning of Satan ritual.

1 February 2004: At least 251 people are killed and 244 injured when pilgrims flock to Jamarat Bridge on Mina to participate in the Stoning of the Devil ritual in Mina. Most of the dead were Indonesians, Bangladeshis and Pakistanis.

6 January 2006: About 76 people are killed when a nine-story building in Mecca collapses after a fire breaks out.

12 January 2006: At least 346 pilgrims die and 289 injured when pilgrims throng at the Jamarat Bridge to perform the Stoning of Satan ritual.

11 September 2015: A deadly crane crash kills 111 pilgrims and injures 394 in Mecca.

24 September 2015: At least 717 Haj pilgrims are killed and nearly 800 injured in a stampede
[/size]

Empiree:
PAIN!

basilico:






Its worse than that

A fresh tally of casualties killed in a stampede near Mecca last month has raised the death toll to 1,453, making this year’s incident the deadliest recorded during the hajj.

basilico:






Its worse than that

A fresh tally of casualties killed in a stampede near Mecca last month has raised the death toll to 1,453, making this year’s incident the deadliest recorded during the hajj.

Empiree:
PAIN!

Empiree:
Honestly, i think i am done talking to you. You are not here for intellectual and textual discourse. You are here only to say and defend wicked people base on how you feel about them. I keep throwing the question to you but you simply ignore. I asked you and others to differentiate btw being a Jew(tribe) and religion(Judaism). You have failed over. What I was trying to make you understand is that:



*Allah has never chosen any people because of any racial or ethnical entity but he chose certain people because of Islam.

*Children of Israel, when they followed Islam, they were the best nation; they were Muslims but others were Mushriks or Kafirs.

*The Holy Land is blessed because of being the place of Allah's Messengers and His Message. Descendants of Jacob, among whom are Moses, David, Solomon and `Isa (Jesus) who are holy prophets, so they can fit the Holy Land.

*The Qur'an addressed earlier the followers of Moses to liberate the Holy Land, they were afraid to get into the Holy Land and they made an excuse for not restoring that land because they believed that the Canaanites are too strong to defeat. They mocked Moses and rebelled his request, the story is detailed in suratal-Ma'idah, 21-26.

*The Holy Land is always the land assigned for the servants of Allah who surrender everything to him not wicked people rulling over it now.

*The occupation of the Holy Land is due to Muslims’ lapsing in weakness and deviating from Allah’s teachings. The occupation of the Jews to the Holy Land is something casual. The Holy Land is waiting for the time when there will be holy people who strictly abide by Allah's teachings to deserve it.

As for claiming that the Jews have a right to take Palestine as their promised land, we will say that the verse that reads, (Go into the holy land which Allah hath ordained for you.) (Al-Ma`idah 5:21) means that the promise stands so long as the people given this promise abide by Allah’s teachings. Once they show disobedience, the promise no longer exists. In addition, this promise is not an absolute one; rather, it is confined to a certain period of time. Now, the promise is no more valid, for Almighty Allah says, (We have written in the Scripture, after the Reminder: My righteous slaves will inherit the earth.) (Al-Anbiya' 21:105)




The people who are now following God's commands, obedient and submit (Islam) to Him (as Muslims) are now Palestinians. If they also seize to be Muslims, or are wicked in conduct and forbidden what God made permissible etc, they would face the same predicament(banishment). These are the conditions in order to have the Deed claim to the Holy Land not by racial or superiority as you people claim. Simply put. The two conditions are: to faith in God(which including believing in all His prophets and messangers, from Adam, to Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad) and be righteous in conduct. The Bible says the same thing.

Quran and Bible clearly say that Holy Land was given to Jews(being believers and obedient to God at that time) NOT simply becus of being Jews. No, sir. You dont understand. Thats why I posted the video to enlighten you. Please read the conditions further here. http://usa.mediamonitors.net/layout/set/print/content/view/full/3632

Author Naomi Wolf also wrote on this after she was persuaded toread thte Bible for herself. She writes:


"Actually if you read Genesis, Exodus and Deuteronomy in Hebrew — as I do — you see that God did not “give” Israel to the Jews/Israelites. We as Jews are raised with the creed that “God gave us the land of Israel” in Genesis — and that ethnically ‘we are the chosen people.”

But actually — and I could not believe my eyes when I saw this, I checked my reading with major scholars and they confirmed it — actually God’s “covenant” in Genesis, exodus and Deuteronomy with the Jewish people is NOT ABOUT AN ETHNICITY AND NOT ABOUT A CONTRACT. IT IS ABOUT A WAY OF BEHAVING."
http://beforeitsnews.com/israel/2014/07/god-gave-israel-to-the-jews-author-naomi-wolfs-mind-blowing-bible-experience-2446712.html

But the criminals who re-wrote(and changed) the Bible said that (Deuteronomy 9:5) "It is not because of your righteousness or your integrity that you are going in to take possession of their land;..." . This is false obviously.

plappville:


Really? I haven't seen this update yet..wonderful....

basilico:


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/09/hajj-stampede-death-toll-hits-1453

basilico:


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/09/hajj-stampede-death-toll-hits-1453

As if they will ever learn a lesson from this. Only 12 days after the crane fell on the mosque and killed over 100 persons. These brainwashed fellow s still went to Mecca. They dont have eyes to read the writings on the walls?. In 12 days 100 died. Yet Saudi couldn't postponed their so-called Hajji. Allah needs more blood why will they..

plappville:


Muslim control of this area today simply fulfills the prophecy of
Luke 21:24 that “Jerusalem will be trampled on by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.”

There is nothing that happens today that has no trace of biblical prophecy. The bible call islam false and muslims are Gentiles because they preach another Jesus.
Keep fulfilling biblical prophecy It prove our God truel and allah false..

tartar9:
you could just have said the jews are gentiles then

Empiree:
PAIN!

plappville:


No they Yahweh 's people according to the bible.
 
Jeremiah 30:1-31:40
The word that came to Jeremiah from the Lord: “Thus says the Lord, the God of Israel: Write in a book all the words that I have spoken to you. For behold, days are coming, declares the Lord, when I will restore the fortunes of my people, Israel and Judah, says the Lord, and I will bring them back to the land that I gave to their fathers, and they shall take possession of it.” These are the words that the Lord spoke concerning Israel and Judah: “Thus says the Lord: We have heard a cry of panic, of terror, and no peace. ...

Amos 9:14-15
I will restore the fortunes of my people Israel, and they shall rebuild the ruined cities and inhabit them; they shall plant vineyards and drink their wine, and they shall make gardens and eat their fruit. I will plant them on their land, and they shall never again be uprooted out of the land that I have given them,” says the Lord your God.

Zechariah 2:8 ►
For this is what the LORD Almighty says: "After the Glorious One has sent me against the nations that have plundered you--for whoever touches you touches the apple of his eye

MUSLIMS ARE GENTILES...that Prophecy was for the gentile who are now present in the Temple Mount..

tartar9:
but they don't believe in Jesus

plappville:



God has a judgement for them. Let prophecy be fulfilled accordingly.

Empiree:
And whats that judgement?

plappville:


If I tell you will it make sense to you? Since the message is right from the bible you tagged corrupted ?

Empiree:
Whatever, ain't got your time. I am sick and tired of your Paul's version of Jesus. Your Jesus is a simp

plappville:
I have tired of seeing violence video on the media about this Beauty city called Jerusalem. So i have come up with some worried questions.

Jerusalem is one of the oldest city and the holiest city in the world. This city is supposed to be a HOLY CITY for the people of the Book (the bible) as muhammed call them. my question is this. What is. What is Islam holy site doing there? Why didnt islam mentain thier holy sites in Meccan and Medina instead fighting to over take the Jews? How many Holy sites should a true religion have? Do the Christian OR Judaism have a holy site in Saudi? If no why?

plappville:
I have tired of seeing violence video on the media about this Beauty city called Jerusalem. So i have come up with some worried questions.

Jerusalem is one of the oldest city and the holiest city in the world. This city is supposed to be a HOLY CITY for the people of the Book (the bible) as muhammed call them. my question is this. What is. What is Islam holy site doing there? Why didnt islam mentain thier holy sites in Meccan and Medina instead fighting to over take the Jews? How many Holy sites should a true religion have? Do the Christian OR Judaism have a holy site in Saudi? If no why?